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Lokarin posted...

Why are people offended that Jesus is having sex?

Because he died 2000 years ago and necrophilia is a terrible thing.


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I_Abibde posted...

Reminds me of my love of doppelgangers (and of giving them extra levels to keep them up as a real threat to the party, since they are otherwise relatively low-grade monsters).

Could always go The Witcher route, and rejigger them to take on the skills, memories, and relative morality of whoever's form they assume, meaning they pretty much become one of the worst threats PCs will ever encounter at any level.


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Kana posted...

>implying i care about posting well thought out original content on a dying video game board

lol

> door
> ass
> way out

etc etc


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keyblader1985 posted...

..Dude; clickbait articles have to at least deliver once you click them.

He could technically be marked for trolling if you felt like it.


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I'd say Mass Effect: Andromeda, but I went into that expecting it to be a shitshow so "disappointed" isn't quite the right term.

Might be Destiny. I wanted to like it, but it lost me so hard it's actually killed my interest in other only tangentially related games by proxy.


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TheOrangeMisfit posted...

Compared to the other goblins and orcs from Ghostbusters, she's a goddess

Hey now, Kristen Wiig's entire career may be built on a successive string of comedies that I don't find funny or amusing in any way, but she's still relatively cute.

I remember seeing her for the first time on The Joe Schmo Show a few years before she got her SNL gig and thinking she was attractive.


I'll grant you the other two, though.


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Millard Fillmore.


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None of the above.

I'd probably vote for early Ren & Stimpy or KaBlam/Action League Now.


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Metalsonic66 posted...

It was one of his first major roles, but he'd been doing voice acting for several years before that game, and it was only shortly afterward that he took over the role of Ratchet in Going Commando.

Almost all of his prior roles were extremely minor - it was still his first major starring role.



Metalsonic66 posted...

I'd say that the stiff acting is more due to the format than anything.

Well, like I said, trying to match lip movements to characters who were originally animated in Japanese almost certainly played a role, and I suspect the voice director on the job lacked the experience to compensate for it.

But a relatively inexperienced actor is going to be far less able to improvise or roll with the challenge than people who've been doing major work for more than a decade, which is why Tidus and Yuna tend to be the two stand-out horrible voiced characters in the game.

(Though there are others - I'd argue that Seymour was terrible both in performance and certain character choices, but then again, I suspect that wasn't the VA's fault except possibly in regards to being miscast in the first place.)


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AllstarSniper32 posted...

Oh, and I actually liked Tidus' VA. I think most people just don't like it cause they played 9 FF games before it without any VAs.

Not really, because the performance doesn't really stand up well to games that came after, either. Even to people who grew up playing nothing but voiced games and only go back to hear their dialogue today, it's still poor audio.

Being the first voiced FF game WAS part of the problem - but less in the sense that people weren't used to the idea, and more because Square didn't know what the fuck they were doing yet and produced substandard audio tracks because they didn't have a high-quality anime-level voice director involved to keep the localization smooth.

Or to put it another way, it's precisely the same reason why a lot of early anime dubs sucked so much that purists ranted about how the subbed version was always better. Eventually, over time, dubbing practices became more advanced, directors and VAs became more skilled, and dubs became much, much better (at which point it was mostly only the crusty old-timers and anime hipsters who still screamed that subs were the Only True Way to watch anime).

A lot of the first voice-acted video games - FFX among them - were absolutely terrible. Because it took a few years for the industry to figure out how to do it well.

In FFX specifically, Tidus and Yuna were the absolute worst voices because it was Hedy Burress's first VA job and James Arnold Taylor was still pretty early in his own career, so the combination of their own inexperience, the lack of a skilled director to help compensate, and the added problems of attempting to match lip movements to characters who were originally animated speaking a different language (which makes a lot of their speeches kind of stuttering or filled with awkward pauses) meant that their performances weren't really as strong as they should have been.

Conversely, Tara Strong, John DiMaggio, and Paula Tiso were already established voice actors by the time of the game, so they were MUCH better at emoting solely via voice and matching lip movements without sounding as awkward. Even so, there are still people who were equally annoyed by Rikku (for being too goddamned chipper) or Wakka (for being a terrible islander stereotype)'s dialogue.

Matt McKenzie (Auron) was mainly in the same boat as Hedy Burress (ie, he was a normal actor and not a VA), but it was easier for him to do a good job because he was a mostly quiet, generally secondary character with much more subdued delivery.



Metalsonic66 posted...

James Arnold Taylor is a great actor.

NOW, maybe.

But FFX was one of his earlier roles, and it's entirely possible that his lack of experience and/or confident could have impacted his performance negatively.

For funsies, watch this:



That's the first VA job Mark Hamill ever had. Now watch/listen to that and compare it with his performance as the Joker in Batman: the Animated Series.


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Bligh_with_no_T posted...

Is that when he got the SSS removed from his body but it regrew and that makes it okay somehow.

Basically, yes.


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Duck-I-Says posted...

Boomers: "Why don't millennial like the things I like?! How dare they!"

Boomers don't even know or care that millennials exist.

Most of the complaints you hear about millennials are coming from the younger Gen Xers and the oldest of the Gen Y crowd (who themselves are technically millennials now, which goes back into the whole "the terminology is hopelessly flawed" discussion).


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Metalsonic66 posted...

I mean, the mask Daredevil was wearing for most of Season 1 was pretty much exactly the same thing that Iron Fist wears in the comic but with no eye-holes.

That might be the main reason they DIDN'T do it, because the assumption is that audiences who don't know better would assume it was derivative and complain.


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Unbridled9 posted...

Had Bernie, a democrat who ultimately did not get party support, gotten the nomination over the 'clearly-in-bed-with-corruption' Hilary a lot of wind could have been removed from Trump's sails.

But a lot of people would have gone the other way as well, because there were certainly female voters for Hillary who would have been pissed that yet another old white man got the nod instead of a woman (ie, exactly the same sort of sexism outrage you heard after the election, with people overdramatically saying things like "What am I going to tell my daughter now?"), and because cries of "Socialist!" are still a pretty powerful thing in the US.

It absolutely wouldn't have been a case of him being able to unite the entire party behind him (unless he did something like make Hillary VP, but that might have been worse in some ways, and he doesn't seem like the type of person who would have agreed to it anyway) and preventing the dissension that hurt the Democrats during the election. There still would have been a divide, and it would have been extremely difficult for him to win against a strongly rhetoric-driven campaign.


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pionear posted...

This time with VS model and Twilight girl...

When I read this I kept trying to figure out what a versus model was.


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Synbios459 posted...

Why doesn't the Poll of the Day board talk about Poll of the Day?

Because CJayC told us not to about 13 years ago.


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The site and the boards are two different things, and the site isn't obligated to follow any of the rules that apply to the boards.

Ironically, of course, this SHOULD mean that it should be against the ToU for us to discuss that poll option today.


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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Depending on whose list you go by, I'm either from the last gasp of Gen X or an OG millennial. I think there needs to be one between the two though, as I feel like neither :/

I've mentioned this before, but the old generational cohort system is kind of outdated now, because the increasing importance of media and pop culture over historical events in society has sort of accelerated the pace of zeitgeist development.

In other words, in the old days a cohort that spanned 20-30 years made sense, and would likely have a similar outlook and demographics, but in modern times 10 years is about the longest you can cap a group and still get them to identify well with each other.

If anything, the Internet's usual trend of dividing people up as "80s kids", "90s kids", and "00s kids" is probably a better system at this point.

Especially when, as you pointed out, most people can't agree on an official definition of what the older generation groups are and when they start/end anyway.


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Marvel actually had a couple storylines exploring that question in the early 90s.


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mooreandrew58 posted...

why does vaan get all the hate when the majority of the party in that game is just as bland

Because while half of the other characters are either bland or slightly irritating, Vaan is a sucking vortex of feces who is pushed center stage on a regular basis, leaving you constantly thinking about how much better the game would be if the Japanese didn't have such a massive sexual fetish for ineffectual teenage pretty-boy protagonists.

Though personally, I reserve most of my loathing for Larsa anyway. Oh, and for the boring setting, terrible plot, and ploddingly dull game mechanics.

Oh, and the piss-poor audio quality that makes like half the characters sound like they've got lisps.



mooreandrew58 posted...

just ignore that hes the MC, pretend the story is just being told from his point of view and it makes things a lot better

You can't really ignore the fact that he's the main character when he's always center-stage in the plot and everything that happens is presented from his point of view.

The narrative is actually structured in a way where either Ashe or Basch should be the main character, and most of the Western audience clearly believes that Han Balthier should be the real focus, but none of that really changes the fact that everything is pretty clearly centered on Vaan.

He's like the chocolate topping on an ice-cream sundae, except the chocolate is actually liquid shit. And while the ice cream itself might still be quite delicious, it doesn't change the fact that it's all going to taste like shit to you if you try and eat it.

(Except in FFXII's case, the problem is that the ice cream isn't even delicious, because it's mostly just bland tapioca pudding.)


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GanonsSpirit posted...

What does the quality of Minions and Rogue One have to do with the release of the Ewok movies?

It probably has something to do with the fact that the movies that got theatrical releases were of better quality in pretty much every way than the ones that didn't.

At least in this particular context.


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mooreandrew58 posted...

I didn't really care for the guy but I think he could have beat trump.

He likely wouldn't have, in exactly the same way that Ron Paul never would have won had he got the nomination when he ran on the Republican side in the past.

Candidates like that tend to energize younger, Internet-savvy voters, but ultimately alienate a much larger portion of the mainstream voter-base. And as much as we can say Hillary lost the votes of disillusioned Sanders supporters, Sanders likely would have lost a fair number of disillusioned Hillary supporters as well. Because, keep in mind, more people DID vote for her in the primaries than voted for him (and she had her own fervid supporters who absolutely would have seen his success as a betrayal). He didn't have the divine mandate of the masses that she somehow usurped, no matter how much some people would like to paint it that way - and while he didn't have the same taint of past negative history on him that Hillary did, he still had enough issues that would have been easy for his opponents to exploit.

The real problem this time around wasn't that the Democrats ran Hillary, it's that pretty much ALL of their options were terrible. There really weren't any stand out candidates in the pack who had a chance in hell of winning the main election, which is why the primaries became such a mess and Hillary more or less claimed the mandate by force of will. Much like how the Republicans basically threw the last two elections away by fielding almost no one worthwhile, and the Democrats basically shot themselves in the foot in a can't-lose election before that - the disconnect between understanding what voters actually WANT (or claim to want, or believe that they want) and what is politically best "for the party" has resulted in a lot of head-thumpingly terrible decisions in terms of who runs and who gets marginalized.

Basically, politics in the US is and has been straight-up fucked for a while now, and who is sitting in the big comfy chair doesn't really matter when they're all idiots, assholes, or fools. No matter who wins, we all still lose.


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Because they were terrible.


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shadowsword87 posted...

Oh, I would like help in something, not mechanics or story, but setting.

~twitches~



shadowsword87 posted...

So Warforged and Changelings are my favorite races ever.

No, really?!

~still has your account tagged as Morg~


I keed, I keed.


But I do still have it tagged as Morg.



shadowsword87 posted...

Like I really like them, and I'm curious what you guys think their culture is like. I have my own ideas, but I want to see what you guys think.

Would depend entirely on the setting.

Especially for Warforged, who are literally sentient robots who would presumably either be programmed with or mimic to some degree the culture of whoever built them. Which means a Warforged in Eberron is probably going to (or at least should) have a different outlook than a Warforged in Faerun. Or a Warforged in the Nentir Vale. Or Warforged in a unique campaign setting based on the Exos in Destiny. Or the similar concept of war golems in general.

In both cases, we're not really talking about established trope-heavy races (like how most people would say that elves are lithe and a bit ethereal while dwarves are stout and tough and gruff, with elves being more inclined towards arts and music while dwarves are more into forging shit and fighting shit - and drinking lots and lots of ale), so there really isn't a "canon" stereotype for either. Any given GM or player using them (or concepts like them) in any given setting are more free to adapt them to whatever their needs might be, basing them on whatever outside sources they might find interesting, or just crafting them to suit the needs of a given campaign.

With Changelings, your problem is that they're basically just descended from monsters without a unique, established culture, and humans who can be from pretty much any culture. The Changelings themselves presumably don't build major settlements or otherwise live together, as much as they blend into other people's society and adopt their customs as their own. And while Changelings actually DO have real-world mythological counterparts to draw from, the D&D equivalent is radically different, to the point where it's almost not worth thinking of as the same thing (in the same way that White Wolf's Changelings are sort of a unique entity in and of themselves as well).

At most, I COULD suggest that Warforged might tend more towards Lawful Alignment (like Modrons, except less absolutely consumed by pure logic) while a Changeling's innate tricksterish nature might encourage it more towards Chaotic , but then you would hiss like a scalded cat and spit at me.

I'd also probably suggest that if you like the idea of robotic "artificial intelligence" in a fantasy setting you should probably read Feet of Clay by Terry Pratchett at least once. But honestly, you should probably read all of his Discworld books because they're all very good.


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green dragon posted...

Sooooo, why do people hate Tidus?

Bad voice acting.

With a different VA, or at the very least a less high-pitched performance, and without the awkward stiltedness that stems from VAs trying to (poorly) match their dialogue to the lip movements of the characters (with Tidus and Yuna being the absolutely A-number-1 worst at it over the span of the game), people probably would have tolerated him way more than they do.

There's also always the possibility that he suffers a bit from having too many personality traits that the Japanese find appealing but Western audiences tend to be a bit more lukewarm about (see also where 90% of hate for Squall in FFVIII comes from), but I definitely think the voice problems play a much stronger role in making him less likeable.


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From the same page you just posted:

"As of the Enhanced Edition, this sword no longer looks like an Elven blade."


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Zeus posted...

The topic is about fucking them, not talking to them.

Yeah, but I've considered personality to be a significant factor in sex appeal for decades now. My usual hat trick is Face + Body + Personality. If someone's smoking hot but a complete bitch, I'm less interested.

And if you reduce it purely to the level of physicality, I don't find either of them all that exceptionally cute, nor do either of them have a body type I'm all that interested in. They both need to eat at least a few sandwiches.

Not saying I'd kick either of them out of bed or going the stereotypical Internet nerd route of saying 2/10 would not fuck, but still, I'm not really salivating over either of them.


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Dikitain posted...

In my opinion, I can tolerate anyone who shows a thread of decency and compassion towards anyone. Doesn't have to be everyone, just someone.

Even Hitler loved his dog!


Ehh, it felt thematically appropriate.



J_Dawg983 posted...

Shame we couldn't have got 100% no as a parting gift.

Clearly, Erik's still got at least a few alts.


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Zeus posted...

Somehow "inspiring" sounds a lot less alarmist or SJW. The entire term cultural appropriation is silly.

The thing is, the phrase itself is perfectly fine and functionally appropriate. The real problem comes from the context it's generally used it, and by the repugnant sort of people who use it.

I've been annoyed for a while now that words like "toxic" and "problematic" have basically become unusable because of over-misuse to the point of ruining their connotation.



Zeus posted...

I had already suspected that at least one dragon would be killed by the walkers and reanimated

People have been calling for the Night King to have some kind of zombie ice dragon for multiple seasons now, so it's not all that large a leap.


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I'm not entirely sure why, but I suddenly feel compelled to post this:




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Lokarin posted...

And that's also assuming that within those 500 years we don't invent new technologies that could help.

Look, I'm working on it as fast as I can.

Oh, wait. You meant help STOP total extinction. Sorry, never mind.


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We're not trying hard enough.


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In the same way you can gain 60 inventory slots if you level up your saddlebags in ESO.


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I remember thinking she was moderately cute back when she was on Open House.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omxihQlWeAI&t=0m40s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEBsA-1kw0I&t=3m50s


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I_Abibde posted...

Lightning Bolt posted...

My first thought is to make the alternate dimension one that already exists in the rules. Like the Ethereal Plane or the Plane of Fire or something.

I don't know why I didn't think of that.

Could always go for the Dark World vibe of Link to the Past and have a dungeon where you can slip into the Shadowfell version of the dungeon, and have everything be bleak and dead.

Or, on the flip-side, you slip the other way instead and wind up in the Feywild, where everything is more overgrown and generally weirder.


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Kanakiri posted...

Dandelion is one of the few characters I actually like

I used his picture for my gamer pic for a while.

Then I changed it to a bulldog in an astronaut suit.


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Entity13 posted...

You're remembering wrong. I tried back then to balance defending her beliefs while also trying to get her to simmer down with how much she was sharing with Wydrah and Co. who clearly weren't so accepting of such beliefs. My attempts to do so came across as awkward, stupid, crazy, and so forth.

That might have been earlier on (because I wasn't here for the earliest salvos in the Ail/Wydrah UST War). By the end I remember you sort of calling her out from time to time because you were implying that she wasn't necessarily embodying the beliefs she claimed to have, and you emphasized at least a few times that your beliefs weren't the same as hers.


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They both seem like major c***s, but I'd probably go with Taylor because she seems like the slightly more intelligent, slightly more mature of the two.


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HellHole_ posted...

i took a contract in novigrad that had me either killing or letting go a succubus, and i let her live, and she angrily gave me a relic sword

neat

There are a lot of "HUMANS ARE THE REAL MONSTERS!"-type quests in that game. It's sort of a motif of the setting in general.


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Entity13 posted...

As a modern day "Neo-Pagan" I can confirm that there is quite the crowd of believers.

I ALMOST said something like ~waiting for Entity to come comment~ in my post, but I refrained.

:-P

I still remember forever and a day ago when we had a few posts back and forth about Thelema. And how you used to pair off against Ail when she went a bit too deep down her Wiccan road.


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Yeah, that's definitely GTA Online.

It's also definitely modded, because that police car doesn't exist in the normal game. And if I recall properly, you can't get police uniforms without glitching (stuff multiple people have complained about, because a lot of people like the idea of dressing up as cops and driving around chasing other players who commit crimes as a form of RP).


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Then you can have the double-reverse twist where it turns out the future NPC is actually lying through their teeth, and the future is bright but THEY have turned evil, and are trying to manipulate the past to help make things worse. In this scenario the PC (either alone or as part of the group) eventually attempts to gain power, only to fail (quite possibly at the hands of his allies if he betrayed them, or at the hands of other heroes if the entire group turned evil). Now, with everyone he once knew dead, all of his influence lost, and on the run, his only option is to start over and try again...

(In this scenario, the NPC might fight the Warforged but fake their own death, moving into the shadows to manipulate events as a villain, after having put the PCs onto whatever path they wanted them diverted to. This NPC may not even want to return to the future at all, but plan on conquering and ruling over the past while either offering to make his past self PC his successor/lieutenant/etc, or eventually killing off his past self entirely.)

And then there's the ridiculous-quadruple-twist where it turns out literally everything was a lie, and the NPC wasn't even the future version of a PC at all, but a powerful current-day villain who changed their appearance and used magic to gain enough knowledge of the PC to fake a convincing future version. The whole thing was a gambit to manipulate the heroes into unsealing some ancient evil or doing something else terrible while retaining a degree of plausible denial.


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Here's a campaign idea I came up with in the shower earlier:

Run a normal game with players whose characters all start out low-level, and do general early-game stuff.

Then, once they hit level 4 or so, they're approached by an older NPC who is obviously (or not so obviously) a grimdark future version of one of their characters (as DM, take one of their character sheets, and then "level" that character up to 19 or 20). Play them as an NPC who shows up during a battle where the PCs are having a bit of trouble and just utterly wreck shop, soloing all of the enemies PDQ.

This NPC eventually reveals that they used a temporal anomaly known as the Timescar to travel backwards into the past, to try and avert a dark future wherein something terrible happens and the world goes to shit. Eventually, a badass Warforged or Golem shows up which has clearly come from this dark future and is trying to kill the future PC (and possibly the past PCs as well, because why the fuck not).

At this point, since you don't want a strong high-level character hanging around hogging the spotlight (which players tend to see as "not fun" or "asshole DM showing off how awesome his DMPC is again"), the Warforged and the future-PC fight and apparently kill each other (bonus points if the PCs never find either body, and the Warforged eventually repairs itself and comes back as an enemy later once they've leveled enough to potentially beat it as a group).

While the future PC is with the group, you can either have them be very talkative about what happens in their version of the future that they're trying to avert (potentially mentioning how the other PCs were killed, how someone they currently consider a minor villain turns out to be a major threat, or how some magical apocalypse or other wrecks the world), or have them be more reticent (because they're too scarred by what they've seen to want to talk about it, and it won't matter anyway once they fix things, right?).

If they're talkative, then once they're gone the PCs have to worry about whether or not they can avert whatever catastrophe happened with their foreknowledge, or if they're more or less doomed to repeat history (or make things worse) by trying to prevent it. Worse, every comment can become a potential threat - if the NPC tells one PC to "avoid Sunstone Gorge, that's where you get killed by a dragon", but it seems like the group is going to have to go to Sunstone Gorge to find something/do something to stop the overall threat, does the PC go and risk dying? Can they rely on the warning itself being enough to alter their behavior slightly and help them overcome their fate? If they deliberately avoid the place (thus weakening the party as a whole), does it potentially result in one of the other PCs getting killed in their place? And if they DO manage to avert the catastrophe, what if they accidentally open the door to something even worse in the process (see also, Command and Conquer: Red Alert)?

If they're reticent to talk about the future, then once they're gone the PCs are left to second-guess every future decision (in-character, anyway). Exactly what did they come back to prevent? Is this next fight the one where you're all going to die? Is THIS the villain who manages to uncork the apocalypse? Or does the simple knowledge that the future needs to be averted set into motion a butterfly effect chain of effects that changes history regardless (meaning the moment the NPC arrived in the past the future was already changed)?


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No one's doxxed you, found your home address and phone number, and driven you to psychosis and (possible) death, so you've still got a ways to go before you're Ail.


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Judgmenl posted...

Wow, I just had some major deja vu. I swear you've used this same exact analogy before.

I'd be surprised if I did because I don't really talk about the sociological implications of Twitter all that often, but it's entirely possible I did and just forgot.

It's not like certain other analogies, metaphors, or verbal crutches I'm very much aware of using quite often, so I'd definitely know it was something I said before.



Judgmenl posted...

On another topic, what would you think the "notable" events of PotD's history are?

At this point, I've probably forgotten most of them, because I don't consider anything that happens here all that notable. Almost anything that seems major in the moment tends to fade away into something no one really cares about when you're looking back at it from a few years later.

I usually bring up Ail in "remember the old days" topics, though, because her insanity definitely permeated the board to a pretty significant extent, and sort of left shockwaves that lasted even after she was gone. She was also the last real "supervillain" we really had here, that we could all turn against and hate to keep us from eventually turning on each other.

Some other posters here have inspired similar mostly-universal disdain, but I don't think anyone's ever really managed to match her level of nuclear-grade hate.


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Sahuagin posted...

immortalityisnotinvulnerabilityohmygod

The word is often used in that context, though. And in absence of specific clarification otherwise, it's just as valid to assume it means "cannot die" as much as merely "do not age".


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TheCyborgNinja posted...

I hate how tv shows tend to have bad, pre-rendered fake games and everyone always talks about scores and levels when those aren't all that relevant now for a number of reasons.

The problem is, most writers are in their 40s (at the very least), and when they were growing up, those things WERE relevant. It's all they know.

You're not going to get high-tier quality scripts from the guy who's currently playing Overwatch and who really enjoyed playing Horizon: Zero Dawn. You're getting scripts from people who vaguely remember playing Pac-Man or Super Mario Bros as a kid.


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saspa posted...

People playing video games in commercials ALWAYS comes off awkward. why is that?

Because they're always actors hired to pretend like they're playing video games, rather than actual gamers playing actual video games.

Doubly so since most of the time, they may not even have the game visuals in front of them, as much as they're looking at a blank screen and acting like it's the greatest experience of their life (because commercial). And even if the actors CAN see the screenshots, they're almost certainly seeing an out-of-context demo reel animation put together by the game devs that makes absolutely no sense to the actors.

Hiring actual gamers to play your game, film them for hours, and then edit out the best highlights and moments to make a more "realistic" gameplay scenario might be the most truthful way to do it, but literally no one is going to do that because time and money are precious.


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Metalsonic66 posted...

...Does ANYONE in modern times still believe in Norse or Greek mythology, like, seriously?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heathenry_(new_religious_movement)

Arguable whether or not you accept them as true believers or as hipsters who just latched on to dead religions or made up their own pastiche versions to be trendy/rebellious/anti-Christian, but it's been a thing for a while now.


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Judgmenl posted...

Oh god don't get me started on Twitter. I remember when Twitter first started becoming a "thing" around the 2008 presidential election, that was when I was when I started getting interested in Politics. I swore off TV after CNN did nothing but repeat Tweets for hours a day.

The real problem with Twitter was that, in the old days, you'd gravitate to a newsgroup or a message board or a chat room, and the older regulars were there and would slowly shape your behavior so you'd be less annoying, whereas Twitter is like standing alone in a room shouting as loudly as you can and occasionally someone will reply. It skewed social normalization as a process, and once "Twitter culture" started to emerge on its own organically, it was kind of terrible because of how loose the imposed socialization was. Basically, everyone became the asshole newb, and asshole newb behavior became the norm.

I'd say the same problem applies with Tumblr, though other sites like Reddit actually do sort of mirror the older pattern of having newer users learn from older ones.

But again, none of this is really NEW, per se:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September



GunslingerGunsl posted...

PO, you can probably recreate most of PotDpedia from memory. Lol.

I never read it, honestly.

Apart from my own page (which I wrote mostly to keep other people from writing it), and a related article or two (like the Consortium one, and maybe one or two others I'm forgetting), I mostly ignored it. A lot of it was people posting articles about other users or events I didn't consider all that noteworthy, so it always seemed like a bit of a waste of time.

Though I'm not even sure I could recreate my own page from memory at this point (though knowing me, I might have it saved as a text file in one of my old archives). I'm getting older, and I've already noticed that memory isn't what it used to be.


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