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Australia has bars and restaurants open, butcases are spiking in Victoria so they've gone back into lockdown.

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Jagr_68 posted...

In related news,

The Who have sued WHO and The Guess Who? for stealing their name.

Don't forget Doctor Who!

ASithLord7 posted...

Lmao what a good look when youre trying not to look like out of touch racist hicks

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Blue_School posted...

4 isn't that young motherfuckers can usually read by that age. Ofc they can recount what happened to their mom.

*points a lamp in the kid's face*

"TELL US WHERE SHE IS!!"

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soulunison2 posted...

two

the one dude who killed himself after facing CP charges and one of the main characters

My friends are into Glee, I heard about the CP guy. His name on the show was Puck or something. The second one, Corey Monteith, is the one most people know since it made headlines around the world for some reason.

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...none?

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yeah, but it's fucking badass

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CEman: "kinda fucked up to think about how much every K-pop act is micromanaged, to the point where most performers are miserable and overworked until the industry sucks out their soul and discards them at the end."

TC: "SO YOU'D RATHER KOREANS HAVE NO MUSIC THEN???!??!?"

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Tried Dig, Lazarus, Dig - wasn't too flash on it. I clicked off after 3 songs.

Listening to the Good Son. It's more miss than hit so far, but Foi Na Cruz really hit the spot.

Edit: The Ship Song is just wrapping up now, and it's a hit too. A bit rocky in the middle, but that ending was fan-fucking-tastic.

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Xenozoa425 posted...

The person on the Board of Directors for the company that handles donations for BLM is a convicted terrorist and communist.

Yeah, and you're tagged as a Nazi downplayer.

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I'll admit that I'm very negative against the Christian/Catholic church, but the faith itself is fine. Faith is ultimately a personal thing, influenced by religious teachings and by scripture - religion goes wrong when you get scum passing down their biases through religious teachings, attaining positions of power to spread hate and bigotry by latching it to the word of God. Basically, fuck the Bible Belt, and fuck anyone in the Catholic church who covered up an instance of child rape. Faith is fine, but the effects of these Christian institutions are not.

The religion itself is fine. It's what shitty, evil people do with it that makes it garbage. The most prominent examples I've seen are in Christianity and in Islam - bible-bashing fundie morons and protected pedophile priests in the former, regressive/conservative regimes that restrict human rights like the Taliban and outright apocalyptic terrorists like ISIL in the latter. I wouldn't smear the entirety of either religion with a broad opinion, because faith at a base level is fine - but it's important to acknowledge when religion is being used to further a human evil.

Both faiths are interesting to learn about, and it's interesting to compare them since they're both different interpretations of the same basic religion. The worst aspects of both faiths come from zealots who use the word of God to justify tyranny.

I don't get what people hate about Judaism though.

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I tried listening to him on Spotify shuffle play, but he's got a lot of stuff that's wildly different from the songs I've heard from him.

I'm a Nick Cave normie - the song I know him from the most is Into My Arms, and my enjoyment of that song stretches into the rest of The Boatman's Call. I did some research into him, and apparently Red Right Hand is a big thing in his discography, but I dunno if I like it that much.

Even with some of the bands I'm ride-or-die with, I had to ease myself into their discography. With Counting Crows, August and Everything After didn't translate into This Desert Life, which didn't translate into Saturday Nights and Sunday Mornings, and it didn't make sense to me even with bridging albums - now I like all their stuff through to that latter album because I'm accustomed to their journey as a band. It took me years to get into lo-fi Mountain Goats, and now Minnesota is one of my favorite songs.

So I think I can potentially get into Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds, if I can find the stuff I'm used to before I branch into some of the other stuff.

For someone who's mostly into the low-key ballad stuff like Into My Arms, what are some good recommendations to expand into their larger discography?

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lol, good shit

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One last bump

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Alcoholism

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And everything's back to normal for me.

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Jiggy101011 posted...

Is this another fake sibling?

Hopefully this one doesn't die too

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Irony posted...

Most countries already disregard the Geneva Convention, devs should too.

Or maybe most countries should abide by the Geneva Conventions?

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CyricZ posted...

You are correct. It's been a violation for decades, but only recently has there been any mention of it. If L4D gets rereleased in any capacity I guarantee you the crosses on Health Kits will be gone.

Has anyone played Doom on console recently?

No word of a lie, I was playing the Switch port earlier tonight. They actually fixed it up pretty nicely, it has quicksave/quickload now.

To my understanding, most ports have replaced the red cross with a red and white capsule. The same patches that fixed the total clusterfuck that the port originally was replaced the capsule with a green cross. So health kits in Doom have green crosses now.

Fun fact, back in 2018 Stardew Valley had to change the colour of the in-game hospital to comply with the Geneva conventions. Also, there's this joke Twitter that goes through and talks about how different video games break the Geneva conventions: https://mobile.twitter.com/ViolateGeneva

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bobbysjoby2 posted...

lol this guy "omg showing a poc losing a fight to a white chick would be such a bad look!"

I've been around a lot of discourse like this. Either way, this is all speculation and there's no way to truly know.

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Even disregarding the current stuff that got him cancelled, Angry Joe always came off as a self-important douchebag. His costumes and skits were douchey and horrible, and the few videos I saw of him were padded out with him sticking to one point and hammering it to death over the course of 30+ minutes.

Like damn, content creators are going to do skits and shit, whatever - but when one skit feels like it goes on for 5 minutes straight, with Joe doing this shot/reverse-shot bullshit of him talking to Cobra Commander (which is him in a Cobra Commander costume, pretending like he's the CEO of Ubisoft), and there's like four skits of the same length in this bloated 45 minute review, it's gone too far.

Dude never had anything meaningful to say. He graduated from the TGWTG school of long, annoying run-on skits with flying colours, with a degree in pedantic nitpicking - and the relatively decent quality of his costumes and shit didn't make his original, non-review content any more watchable. It just felt self-centred and empty, imo.

Controversy aside, Angry Joe's content always felt like hollow garbage. I couldn't be happier to see him flounder, regardless of the reason. I think he's an annoying dipshit, and I'm glad to see him go.

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You could spin this as "they passed on making a poc character in favour of a blonde white woman, denying the black community a chance at representation with a prominent character in a flagship release", but you could just as easily spin it as *MASSIVE TLOU2 SPOILERS* "they decided that depicting a black woman being kidnapped into slavery, wasting away to nearly nothing, being crucified/lynched by her captors, forced to fight to the death and getting stabbed in the chest and nearly drowning at the hands of a white woman would be extremely bad optics in a game series that already has some fucked up shit happening to pretty much every prominent black character, and it's probably for the best that one of the game's most iconic moments isn't the depiction of a black woman being overpowered and nearly murdered by a white woman - being co-erced into fighting, even - after nearly being crucified/lynched by slavers."

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Wow, I wonder if this is gonna happen to any other far-right world leaders with reactionary voterbases.

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Official statement: https://twitter.com/tvtropes/status/1280501482513719297?s=20

My guess is that everything is still there, and once they figure out this firmware issue things will go back to normal.

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Propane4Sale posted...

Wait really?

PRAISE JEBUS FOR THY BOUNTIFUL PURGE!

Hey, come on. I've been following their Bojack Horseman recap pages while I've been watching the show.

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Update: the site is back online - but everything's gone.

Except the review section, AKA the shit-flinging section. It looks like all the wiki pages are gone, and the forum is completely wiped.

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SSJGrimReaper posted...

looks southeast asian

that'll be the adult design for lev in a tlou3

Nah, lev will keep his hair cut short

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Bullet_Wing posted...

I feel like Doctor Who is excluded though. Mainly because the show doesn't take itself seriously and often has future characters changing things past characters fucked up.

I can't even imagine how convoluted a Doctor Who timeline would look

Trust me, it's stupid. All the time war stuff with Gallifrey, to start, but Skaro is particularly inconsistent. Its status in the show's canon, as well as whenever it appears in Big Finish productions, is a 50/50 crapshoot that can be explained by "time travel restoration/destruction happened". It's a mess.

Honestly, Doctor Who has been a "watching by the scene of your pants" show ever since Moffat had his run. People shit on Chris Chibnall for his run as showrunner, but I can assure you that most of the shit he's been hit with started with Moffat. Dude's at least trying to move forward and make interesting new plotlines, instead of "what if... The Doctor... was afraid of the monster under his bed?", or "what if... the Zygons... were ISIS?"

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I'm getting kinda worried.

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Is it even worth the effort of logging on with this username and posting petty clapbacks at people who think your behaviour is funny?

like seriously - why do you care so much? if you don't feel respected by the users or the moderators, maybe it's time to seek out somewhere that isn't actively hostile towards you.

You can keep making those little jabs at everyone clowning on you, but the reality is that even in their attempts to get under your skin, they're still not being as silly as you are about all this.

You can stay here and be a laughingstock to a bunch of randos who want you to get even more upset so they can laugh even harder at your impotent rage, or you can find somewhere that shares your values. Complaining gets you nowhere, and the more you stew, the less respect you're going to command.

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I know the feeling TC. A bunch of firework-slinging yahoos, the lot of them.

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who even are you

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At the end of the day, it wasn't the big, cohesive cherry on the top of the PS4's lifespan like I think most people wanted. It was very well made, though, and I enjoyed myself well enough. It's a shame that the backlash to this game is so overblown and shitty, because I think this game would benefit from some civil discourse - it doesn't deserve 100,000 fake ratings to drive its user score down, and it's higher than a 4/10. Seriously - if you're that ass-blasted about the game, like honestly dedicated to burying this game as the biggest pile of shit to come out of this generation, I think you're out of your mind. Chill the fuck out.

But yeah, stuff like the ending stretching out as long as it did didn't do the game any favours. But at the end of the day, it's not too bad - not as good as the usual Naughty Dog fare, but it's a pretty solid game. On a good day, I'd lean towards an 8/10, but overall I think it's a solid 7/10. It's not above criticism, but I sincerely enjoyed most of my time with it and it isn't deserving of the sheer scope of its backlash. Gamergaters ruin everything.

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I get that this is a controversial game, but rather than dismissing everything I have to say based on the basic score I give it, I'd appreciate you looking through some of my pros and cons and addressing them with your own views on them.

With that being said - rough ballpark score, I'd give it a solid 7/10.

I played through it with a friend over the course of a few weeks. I liked it pretty consistently up until the Abby switch - everything from Shimmer dying to Ellie getting to the aquarium was okay, but it felt like it was building to a conclusion and then it pulled the rug out from under me to start all over again.

I think it would have been better with Ellie and Abby's stories being intertwined. Breaking them up the way they did really hurt the game.

Ellie and Abby's stories were decent, though. I actually got really into Abby's story. I did think that they were too separated, and stuff like the seraphites felt kind of paddy. Revenge stories seem to work better when both parties are invested in each other, but Abby had no idea about Ellie being in Seattle and Ellie had no idea about Abby killing Joel, and then the ending dragged so fucking long... I think narrowing the scope of Abby's storyline, and maybe cutting out the seraphite stuff out - have Yara and Lev just be trespassers or something - would have been better.

I liked the gameplay - it felt pretty well balanced. I was better at sneaking and my friend was better at action, so we had a nice give and take sort of playthrough. I liked the crafting more than I thought I would, and I really enjoyed sneak-killing. I also liked the dynamic that came with finding new materials and needing to craft new stuff to fill the inventory up, like it felt really well balanced gameplay wise. I always managed to scrounge up exactly what I need.

I liked Dina a lot, I didn't mind Abby so much as I played more of her, Yara and Lev were cool even if their stories kind of sunk. But Jesse was pretty flat, and I didn't like Tommy - especially in the end game. I understood why he was like how he was, but I still didn't like it.

A few things about the controversy I want to address - I don't get why people are so vitriolic about Joel dying. Ellie's the playable character, and I really did think it was a natural progression to take in a grim setting like this one. It genuinely wasn't that surprising. Ellie was depicted as non-straight in the last game, so the consternation that came from the reveal trailer really felt stupid and forced. I thought Ellie and Dina had a very sweet relationship - I liked it a lot. Abby did weaken the game a little bit, but I hardly see why she's a villain sue or why she's hated to the degree that she is. She killed Joel, sure, but I don't think the outright hatred for her - mocking her for looking mannish, saying Neil Druckmann self-inserted himself into the game to fuck her - is justified to the degree that it's been perpetuated. And the sex scene wasn't that cringe - I don't think it was meant to be titillating, and Owen looks nothing like Neil Druckmann. I seriously don't get that angle of attack - it's fucking stupid.

I have some specific pros and cons I want to go over:

Pros

+ Good gameplay. Really loved sneaking around.
+ The open world part of Seattle, as short as it was, was really nice. There was some very solid character building, and I got really attached to Shimmer - the scene where she dies was super fucked up.
+ The music store in particular. It ran a bit long, but it was a great little moment of downtime with Ellie and Dina, and I really appreciated the Take on Me scene. That was the moment the game hooked me.
+ I feel like the game had good conveyance. We were never stuck for very long. The hints were annoying, like just let me bumble around for a bit, but the game was pretty decently paced gameplay wise.
+ I really liked Dina. Scenes like her in the synagogue, talking about her family and faith, or where she's taking care of Ellie, were really nice. I feel like she grounded the game. The pregnancy stuff was a bit... ehh, but it paid off at the end of the game and she was still very sweet with Ellie.
+ The final conflict in the game. I have more to say about the ending as a whole in my "Cons" list, but the fight with Ellie and Abby was very weighty, desperate and draining in the best way possible. The fight itself was the emotional climax the game needed, even if the build-up was kinda flawed.
+ Lev's role as Abby's morality chain was done pretty well. I thought he was one of the better characters in the game, even if his sister died like a dog in the worst way possible.
+ The game felt very polished. Everything looked good, especially the gore. I thought the game was pretty well acted, even if characters like Jesse and Owen felt kinda off - for the most part, where it counted, I thought it was a well-acted game. AAA production values - the game had a lot of polish.
+ I'm 100% sure that Haven and Old Town on the Seraphite island were nods to Jak and Daxter.

At the end of the day, I spent more time enjoying TLoU2 than I did disliking it.

Cons

- Ending fatigue. Seriously. A majority of the game takes place in Seattle, and when it cuts to Ellie and Dina on the farm, that felt like the natural ending point of the game. Stretching it into Santa Barbara really soured my goodwill towards the game. Honestly, it was like The Last Jedi in this regard - the stuff in Santa Barbara/on Crait needed to happen to wrap everything up, but it felt like it artificially extended the product and the end result suffers for it. It sets up the Rattlers, you take down the Rattlers - you were fighting the WLF and Seraphites for the rest of the game, and these chuds don't have the same presence. It breaks up a happy ending, seemingly for the sole purpose of making everything futile and suck to hammer home the whole "violence begets more violence" point. I don't disagree with that being the point of the story, but they didn't have to set up a nice ending point, ruin that ending point for drama, and then tack an hour long ending where everything turns to shit. Santa Barbara felt like DLC - for the game to really hit it home, they needed to end the conflict in Seattle and end with Ellie and Dina on the farm. The Abby fight was cathartic, and I think the game needed that conflict at the end, but Santa Barbara as a larger entity is flawed.
- The way they split up the Ellie/Abby campaigns felt really jarring. I don't think it's dishonest that you play as Abby for a big part of the game, but I think the stakes had to be more intimate. You do your thing as Ellie, trying to get to Abby, and then when you play as Abby, she was out gallivanting around as the hero of her own plot, totally unaware of Ellie's actions. This would have been fine if they swapped out their stories chapter by chapter, or just cut back and forth to advance their stories in tandem, but putting them back to back like they did was a massive cocktease and it irritated me to then have to play Abby's campaign before resolving the scene at the theatre.
- The Seraphites were too much. They took up most of Abby's campaign, which contributes to the disconnect between her plot and Ellie's plot, and I don't know how I feel about their martyred god figure. I think there should have been a figurehead if they were that big of a deal to the plot. I liked Yara and Lev, but I feel like they could have been trespassers. At the end of the day, I just think the Seraphites bloated the story too much.
- Honestly, while the graphics looked pretty good for the most part, I do think it's gonna age kind of poorly. That's the draw with the pursuit of realistic graphics - they never age well. But they did the job most of the time, and the gore was fucking fantastic.

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Honestly? I don't think there's a more fitting death for that man. This disease was going to kill people, it's unfortunate but true, but if Trump had A) taken the virus seriously from the beginning, B) not actively downplayed it at every turn, C) not opened the country back up before the first wave was even over and D) not actively cut down on testing under the logic of "if less people get tested there'll be less confirmed cases which will make me look good" - less people would have died, and less people would die in the future.

So yeah. Considering the outstanding job he's done exposing his entire country to a fucking plague and making it the worst healthcare crisis in a century, I would be fucking ecstatic if the stupid orange bitch got COVID19 and drowned in his own mucus.

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Man I can barely take care of myself, let alone a child. Shit would be crazy.

I reckon I'd be an okay house-husband eventually, though.

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Bullet_Wing posted...

https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1237027356314869761

132,000 deaths in under four months. Christ.

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Me: "so many people died in world war 2, it was like if the Titanic sunk 500 times"

You: "but the Titanic was a boat, not a war, they're not comparable"

no, I don't think the Titanic casualties multiplied by 500 = the people who died in WW2, just for the record

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Where is this 4 plane crashes figure coming from? If there were three plane crashes on 9/11 (the twin towers and the one that crashed before it hit the Pentagon), there would be 132 plane crashes in total.

Also, the point isn't "a pandemic-level virus is the same as a terror attack". That's not at all what I'm saying. The point is "remember how tragic 9/11 was portrayed as, remember how many people were killed in that tragedy - the point of "never forget" being to remember the senseless loss of human life on that day - and now imagine the loss from that tragedy multiplied by 44".

To match the COVID-19 casualties, an event like 9/11 would have to happen 44 times. You would have to experience an event on the scale of 9/11 forty four times to get the same amount of dead people that this virus has claimed.

And I'm not even talking about the global casualties. The amount of American deaths due to COVID-19 is the equivalent of 44 9/11s.

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Unsugarized_Foo posted...

Of course. Theyre totally similar because Americans are dying!!!!

9/11 is a collective trauma in the American psyche, and the importance of remembering the event and mourning the death of 3,000 people was hammered in year after year after year.

The point of comparing the death tolls is to provide a bit of perspective. Eventually, the shock of hundreds of thousands of deaths will wear off because we've gotten so used to them happening, and it'll be hard to care when the number tops 200,000, or 300,000. It'll become a detached figure.

Comparing it to an event like 9/11, with the scope and influence on the American psyche that it has, is an attempt to ground the figure in a familiar way and get people to understand just how bad shit is getting. It's a Team America joke, sure, but it's a way to comprehend the figure and its tragedy after it's started to lose its effect.

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I think most CEmen are suited to play the seme hohohohoho

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Bullet_Wing posted...

Donald Trump will go down as one of our worst presidents for sure

I think Donald Trump's response to coronavirus is going to get totally dunked on in every history book around the world, except for in Alabama and Mississippi.

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To have this many casualties, 9/11 would have to be carried out 44 times.

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Friends in high places, like the rest of the scum

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Nothing could have saved them

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andel posted...

ehh anyone defending farrakhan is clearly just a troll tbh

Or a white supremacist agitator tbh

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