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TopicWrestle Wars tournament QUARTERFINALS Day 1 (CM Punk/Christian,Angle/Roode)
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12/17/11 11:49:00 PM
#3
Christian
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Topic[MPFC] Most Powerful Fictional Character Lots of Creatures: Smith vs Chaos.
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12/17/11 11:37:00 PM
#11
Ah that's a good point about Bane. I'd forgotten about that. Pretty relevant here. So I don't see any real reason as to why nrvnqsr would get control back even if they were reabsorbed, which I'm still iffy on.

Going Agent Smith here for now.

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Topic[MPFC] Most Powerful Fictional Character Lots of Creatures: Smith vs Chaos.
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12/17/11 11:30:00 PM
#9
I think a horde of Smiths could deal with the high end ones easily, so if he bolstered his numbers on the lesser ones first it wouldn't be tough, and he's probably fast enough to do it. I'd also think they're living because the name soil of genesis is like... screaming "alive" to me.

The reabsorption thing could be interpreted in a few ways. One is that they don't reabsorb because Smith doesn't technically kill them, so they don't hit that step where they'd reabsorb. Another is that Smith wrenches control of them and they aren't able to reabsorb. Another is that they reabsorb still under Smith's control and Smith is able to do a Matrix Revolutions Neo against nrvnqsr from in there. Another is that the guy takes them back and takes control back.

If there's no real evidence either way I personally like one of the first two theories.

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12/17/11 11:17:00 PM
#240
The only result that would revitalize my faith a bit would be Mario > Link. I already expect Mario to make it closer than Cloud and Seph are.

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12/17/11 11:07:00 PM
#233
I want a close match where FFVII wins. The board's darling losing in the clutch would be great to see. And that would be the most unexpected result for me.

I personally expect Pokemon to win in a close one, which is more of the status quo than anything at this point. If Pokemon can win it will.

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12/17/11 11:00:00 PM
#229
Obviously the scum players should spend their whole time scumhunting. Obviously.

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12/17/11 10:55:00 PM
#225
Not sure what's funny, there! Obviously when I say lurk I don't mean just lurk because I'm talking from the perspective of a good player but you can pretty much auto-pilot post to the point where it takes no effort as scum if the radar isn't on you.

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12/17/11 10:51:00 PM
#220
As scum I'll probably read like 25% of the posts.

As town I'll read 75% or so, though not all of them closely. If you're playing town and only reading 25% you're a bad player I think. Of course Chris is the definition of "gets into a back and forth for an hour" so I'm not really sure he's saving much time anyway-- hell he's probably making 25% of the posts.

Basically it goes as scum posting takes more effort (if you're pinned, anyway-- otherwise you can just lurk a lot), as town reading takes more effort. That's how I find it. In any case it's definitely a big waste of time even if you're slacking-- and a bigger waste of time if you're good. Regular mafia players should lose the right to "life" insults imhhho.

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12/17/11 10:42:00 PM
#210

From: UItimaterializer | #195

It's called having time management skills, stop making dumb points that you know full well are dumb points mister godtier mafia player.

Unless you're one of those all work no play types, in which case lol you for being wired like an old man in your 20s!


Mafia is a huge timesink if you want to play well. Way too much crap to read-- and you have to read it by like... you know, looking for contradictions and crap, and then word your posts in such a way that you're convincing and not scummy-- but not too clean either, otherwise people call you scummy because you're being too careful. Reading mafia posts and posting mafia posts takes longer than normal posting by a lot. And then sometimes you get caught in a back and forth for like an hour and you can claim you were multitasking but how much were you really?

If you don't have 100% free time and have an active social life on top of that (and perhaps a hobby/something else on top of that that you don't want to just push aside) it's pretty hard to find time to play in many mafia games. For me, anyway. Obviously, you can just phone it in and blow like 20 minutes on it in a day and be done, but yeah. Early days especially, that thing can rob you of many hours. Mafia is the biggest message board timesink there is. By a good deal more than geeking out over contests, I think.

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12/17/11 10:31:00 PM
#193
Then again maybe the punchline isn't that you're no better than people on the board who post too much, but rather are bad at mafia.

I'll take that one too !!

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12/17/11 10:25:00 PM
#187

From: UItimaterializer | #181
Check mafia timelines, I didn't get on the site today until 11:18 and didn't actually start paying attention until well after midnight. Unlike most people on this board, I haven't spent my entire Saturday here.

The virgin excuse applies. It's hilarious to get laid and then come on this board and read the things people whine about, it really is.


Speaking as one of the best mafia players on the board (when I bother, cause I don't really have the time for it!), healthy non-virgins probably shouldn't have the time to play mafia.

Just sayin.

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12/17/11 10:23:00 PM
#183

From: SmartMuffin | #176
I can only assume he figured this was the one format in which Zelda/FF7 might not dominate. Guess again!


This is a fine reason from the mind of someone who wants "interesting results"

But for a businessman trying to draw site traffic? Zelda/FF7 not winning would not drum up interest from casual voters. I don't think so.

I'm inclined to think Leon has the real reason.

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12/17/11 10:20:00 PM
#173
I honestly can't see why Bacon thought this contest was a good idea. I was sour on the concept from its birth, before we even got a bracket. I'm not really sure why he thought people would be interested in this.

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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Mage/Wizard - Day #10
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12/17/11 10:16:00 PM
#74
Saruman

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TopicWhy is Battletoads considered a classic?
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12/17/11 10:15:00 PM
#20
People don't think it's good, on the whole. The reason reviews on this site are skewed towards positive scores is because of "who's bothering to rate this" bias.

Realize:

- Battletoads came out before this site was founded, so people won't casually play it and drop a rating.
- Battletoads is not from a popular franchise, so people who've disliked it won't go out of their way to rate it.
- Battletoads is not terrible, so people in the mood for rating an old bad game won't immediately think of it.

So what you're left with are the people who are big fans of the old game, generally, meaning you're stuck with good reviews. The 1s and 2s that would be there for a really bad game aren't there cause it's not that bad, and the 4s, 5s, and 6s of "meh" games that it'd get if it was current aren't there because people don't generally have the urge to write a review for a 4 5 or 6 game. So you're left with the fanboys, basically, and its scores are high.

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12/17/11 10:09:00 PM
#147
lol people rallying Tetris.

No one cares about Tetris. L-Block voters only claimed that because it was funny to them for some reason.

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Lopen
12/17/11 9:49:00 PM
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Yeah it's largely the trash vote totals killing it for me too.

Though you throw some minor upsets in and yes this contest does get a lot more interest from me. If every 55% or less match had swapped this contest is at least in the running with the series contest as far as interest goes, even with terribad votals.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 9:45:00 PM
#368
I was born there and I know what the state is called.

Only someone who hasn't lived in North Mexico would claim it has a different name!

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12/17/11 9:42:00 PM
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From: PartOfYourWorld | #040
This is probably the first "universally fail" contest we've had since 2006. Both CB 2010 and GotD were really well regarded. SBAllen fails for one contest, and it's now time to can the whole concept? Face it, you guys wouldn't be moping this badly if Link had 54% right now.


Series contest was somehow a lot better than this one.

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12/17/11 9:36:00 PM
#22
I've been all but broken for weeks. Pokemon Trainers vs SF sealed it and this just nails the coffin.

I'm with you, man.

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TopicRivalry Rumble Contest Analysis Crew - Part 3
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12/17/11 9:32:00 PM
#301
Think AKJ has this one, unfortunately!

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 9:27:00 PM
#345
Cloud is down to 3 states

North Mexico is one of the states he still has

Never have I been so proud of the state of my birth

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 9:25:00 PM
#338

From: LOLContests | #334
Me I just think people don't "get" the format.

But FFVII would still break 45% on the Zelda series, at least as far as I can tell it would.


I disagree with that. FFVII can barely break 45% on Ocarina alone.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 9:21:00 PM
#317
If Link/Ganon win with 58% and Mario doesn't outdo Cloud yeah it might be Skyward Sword

Me I just think people don't "get" the format.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 9:17:00 PM
#301
Link peaks at 63%

Drops to 58%

Methinks.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 9:13:00 PM
#281

From: transience | #277
this is a dozen Zelda games vs. FF7. Mario would probably beat Cloud.

which leads us to Cloud vs. Red. could be an ugly-ass board vote.


This

It's a series contest, with one game rivalries being hamstrung. Rivalry factor is a sham.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 9:10:00 PM
#262

From: WarThaNemesis2 | #246
BOLD PREDICTION: Mario/Bowser does better on Link/Ganon than Cloud/Sephiroth do.


Bah I already did this one

Just without the BOLD

But suffice to say I approve this prediction.

I'm surprised to hear that Link always goes up the second update though. That's kinda weird.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 9:07:00 PM
#242

From: FateStayAlbion | #222
Cloud actually has gone down like 3% since a minute into the match. I guess people were voting for him to get an upset.


Yup. Just to make it official:

BOLD PREDICTION: Link goes up next update.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:59:00 PM
#174
Ness is stronger than GLaDOS? I'm not sure I buy that.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:56:00 PM
#169
In a series contest it would, though!

And I realize it doesn't make sense to have RE4 in a series contest-- which is the only reason MK wins that.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:53:00 PM
#165
Mortal Kombat (series) vs Resident Evil 4 in a series contest, though? Yeah I take MK there.

That match makes even less sense if you try and boil it down to characters. Sub-Zero arguably doesn't even beat Leon Kennedy and Scorpion isn't that much stronger than Ada Wong either.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:49:00 PM
#160
Sephiroth there presumably adds a lot more than Ganondorf, considering Cloud/Seph is a 55-45 match. It'd be silly to assume everyone who would vote for/against Cloud in a given match doesn't flip their vote if Seph's there. So if you think this is a character battle through and through you should expect Cloud to have a good chance.

I'm saying it's a series contest for a lot more than the trainers. Blowouts from the fighting game guys, new pairings doing poorly, Donkey Kong looking respectable. There are a lot of results that make more sense if you think of it as a series contest more than a character contest or even "rivalry factor"

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TopicSome men just want to watch the world burn. [match pics]
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12/17/11 8:46:00 PM
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I dislike 4. I know what they're trying to do but it's not executed well-- particularly for Link and Cloud's side where Cloud's head utterly dwarfs Link's. There was a much better version of this pic with just Link and Cloud in a previous contest I believe.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:43:00 PM
#156

From: Xuxon | #153
unadjusted stats from last year say Samus 60-40's Mario. not much SFF? really?


Really? I didn't think it was that bad. In any case I didn't say there wasn't SFF I was just saying that it's exaggerated. And it is. Especially if you buy the "Samus is stronger indirectly" theory.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:41:00 PM
#155

From: vcharon | #151
So you think Cloud alone is stronger than Mario, yet Cloud paired with the 3rd/4th strongest character is weaker than Mario paired with someone who isn't even in the top 10?


Uh... it's pretty clear that this contest doesn't work that way. Otherwise Cloud would beat Link. Among other results that haven't happened. I'm taking this contest to be more like a series contest with a twist than a character contest, based on how results have gone. Super Mario Bros as a series is really close to Final Fantasy as a series, and would beat FF7 alone, so yeah.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:37:00 PM
#149
I don't think Mario/Bowser will get SFFed, and I think they're a stronger pairing than Cloud/Seph.

I don't think Super Mario Bros would've been SFFed by Legend of Zelda in the series contest either. Hell I think Link's ability to SFF Mario is exaggerated in the first place-- Link beats Mario by a boatload because he's a lot stronger for the most part, not due to huge amounts of SFF.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:34:00 PM
#145

From: Xuxon | #143
did you just say you expect Cloud/Seph to end up 4th in the stats? how is that even remotely possible with how Link is going to SFF Mario?


Probably cause Link won't be SFFing Mario.

Oh I went there.

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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Mage/Wizard - Day #10
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12/17/11 8:33:00 PM
#45
Oh. "Whoops"

Erk then

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:31:00 PM
#142
Yeah that's right Cloud and Seph win with 440%.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:31:00 PM
#141
Yeah if you think the early voters are utterly stupid, which is fair, there is pretty much no reason to assume that Cloud and Sephiroth have any chance of choking it away if they're winning at the freeze.

I expect them to be at like... low 440s at the freeze, though (and end up 4th on the x-stats), so yeah, doesn't really help.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:26:00 PM
#136
Like I said it could happen with a strong upset vote-- I kinda expect Cloud and Seph to drop from the freeze with the second update this time. (But still increase overall, meaning they'll still win if they're leading at the freeze) Maybe I'm overestimating how smart early voters are though.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:23:00 PM
#132
Well, one reason for Cloud and Seph to be winning at the freeze is their pairing is just plain stronger, meaning they'll win all the other blocks too, but there is something to be said for what vcharon's saying too-- I could certainly see Cloud and Seph winning the board vote by a bit and then losing if people were fiending for an upset that much but I don't see that happening.

Looking unlikely that they will be stronger at this point, but strangely, not because of their respective matches-- I don't think Cloud and Seph have looked much worse at all than Link-- but just the contest results as a whole.

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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038
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12/17/11 8:18:00 PM
#125
Link needs to be at like... 53% or less to think Cloud and Seph have a shot. I think the early vote is going to go more Cloud/Seph than usual just because people are starting to fiend for an upset.

Then again, people are stupid so Cloud and Seph might be anti-voted due to always winning.

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TopicSave My **Dissidia** Characters (Day 28)
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12/17/11 8:13:00 PM
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Mage/Wizard - Day #10
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12/17/11 8:13:00 PM
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TopicWrestle Wars tournament Round 4 Day 3(Sheamus vs. Cody Rhodes,Ziggler vs.Regal)
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12/17/11 8:11:00 PM
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TopicThe Original Green Goblin Concept from Sam Raimi's Spider-Man
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12/17/11 8:10:00 PM
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Looks closer to the comic version, but I personally prefer what the movie did with him to the comic's design anyway.

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TopicSave My **Dissidia** Characters (Day 27)
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12/17/11 8:04:00 PM
#103
I would've been saving Gilgamesh after Sephiroth if I was counting games that aren't Dissidia.

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TopicRate the Final Fantasy Character Day 35: Cosmos
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12/17/11 8:03:00 PM
#4
Big part of the reason Dissidia's plot is such a mess

Don't much like her design either

But not overly annoying or anything so she doesn't go to the absolute bottom tier.

2.5/10

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Topic[MPFC] Most Powerful Fictional Character Lots of Creatures: Smith vs Chaos.
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12/17/11 7:54:00 PM
#5
It's pretty vague. I'm going to assume he can because I assumed the target only needed to be living for him to do it-- no real reason to assume otherwise. The thing that's giving me pause is if there's a reason to assume the beast's regeneration will work against Smith's replication thing or if there's some reason they'd be able to resist it well.

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