Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1038

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vcharon
12/17/11 8:38:00 PM
#151:


So you think Cloud alone is stronger than Mario, yet Cloud paired with the 3rd/4th strongest character is weaker than Mario paired with someone who isn't even in the top 10?

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-LusterSoldier-
12/17/11 8:38:00 PM
#152:


Xuxon | Posted 12/17/2011 11:33:33 PM | message detail | quote
did you just say you expect Cloud/Seph to end up 4th in the stats? how is that even remotely possible with how Link is going to SFF Mario?


If the Trainers/Cloud match was used to do an indirect comparison of Mario to Link, we can bypass the Link/Mario SFF when someone does the adjusted x-stats.

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Xuxon
12/17/11 8:38:00 PM
#153:


unadjusted stats from last year say Samus 60-40's Mario. not much SFF? really?
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vcharon
12/17/11 8:39:00 PM
#154:


Mario is terrible against Link. Link will set new records for final match percentage and percentage against Mario if he wins here.

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Lopen
12/17/11 8:41:00 PM
#155:


From: vcharon | #151
So you think Cloud alone is stronger than Mario, yet Cloud paired with the 3rd/4th strongest character is weaker than Mario paired with someone who isn't even in the top 10?


Uh... it's pretty clear that this contest doesn't work that way. Otherwise Cloud would beat Link. Among other results that haven't happened. I'm taking this contest to be more like a series contest with a twist than a character contest, based on how results have gone. Super Mario Bros as a series is really close to Final Fantasy as a series, and would beat FF7 alone, so yeah.

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Lopen
12/17/11 8:43:00 PM
#156:


From: Xuxon | #153
unadjusted stats from last year say Samus 60-40's Mario. not much SFF? really?


Really? I didn't think it was that bad. In any case I didn't say there wasn't SFF I was just saying that it's exaggerated. And it is. Especially if you buy the "Samus is stronger indirectly" theory.

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vcharon
12/17/11 8:45:00 PM
#157:


This isn't about series unless the trainers are in the match, the end. It's clear some characters really fell off because they had terrible partners, but in general the strongest characters all won because they've always been the strongest characters here.

Characters are in the matches; this is a character battle. It doesn't mean Cloud can beat Link just because Sephiroth is there (I still don't see any logic saying why someone who'd vote Link over Cloud suddenly wouldn't because they see someone else from Cloud's game sitting there).

Link still wins.
Mario still loses to everyone here.

There's no logic to suggest Mario can resist SFF from Link... look at the last contest for your proof. Mario struggled against a Pokemon fueled rally entrant but still ended up with a win, without being able to SFF a Nintendo counterpart very well. He himself was drilled into the ground by Link, scoring his worst 1v1 percentage against him. Link has only looked even more invincible during this contest and has yet to be held under 75%.

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pjbasis
12/17/11 8:46:00 PM
#158:


Cloud
"Link!"

(Link stops, then looks back over his shoulder at Cloud. Cloud rushes
him, preparing to kill. Link neatly stabs Cloud through the chest
with the Master Sword. He lifts the sword, and Cloud with it, off the ground.)

Link
"Don't... push... your luck..."

(Cloud dangles there for a few moments, then by sheer will alone, brings
himself back to the ground. Link's sword arm begins to tremble. Cloud
reaches up and grasps the sharp edge of the Master Sword.)

Link
"...It can't be!"

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-LusterSoldier-
12/17/11 8:48:00 PM
#159:


BOLD PREDICTION: The upcoming match will fail to break 1000 votes at the freeze.

Given how bad the votals have been, no match in this contest has reached 1000 votes at the freeze. The Trainers in round 1 came the closest to 1000 votes.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=4518&num=2

That was only 946 votes right there.

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Lopen
12/17/11 8:49:00 PM
#160:


Sephiroth there presumably adds a lot more than Ganondorf, considering Cloud/Seph is a 55-45 match. It'd be silly to assume everyone who would vote for/against Cloud in a given match doesn't flip their vote if Seph's there. So if you think this is a character battle through and through you should expect Cloud to have a good chance.

I'm saying it's a series contest for a lot more than the trainers. Blowouts from the fighting game guys, new pairings doing poorly, Donkey Kong looking respectable. There are a lot of results that make more sense if you think of it as a series contest more than a character contest or even "rivalry factor"

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Kotetsu534
12/17/11 8:50:00 PM
#161:


There's still some that don't make sense.

I, for one, am not taking Phoenix Wright > Half-Life, or Castlevania > Chrono Trigger.

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vcharon
12/17/11 8:51:00 PM
#162:


Mortal Kombat kind of sucked in the series contest, did it not?

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vcharon
12/17/11 8:51:00 PM
#163:


Mortal Kombat > Resident Evil is never happening either.

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Xuxon
12/17/11 8:51:00 PM
#164:


MK didn't even make it into the series contest.
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Lopen
12/17/11 8:53:00 PM
#165:


Mortal Kombat (series) vs Resident Evil 4 in a series contest, though? Yeah I take MK there.

That match makes even less sense if you try and boil it down to characters. Sub-Zero arguably doesn't even beat Leon Kennedy and Scorpion isn't that much stronger than Ada Wong either.

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vcharon
12/17/11 8:53:00 PM
#166:


It must be MK I recall not doing very well in a games contest. The logic this is a series contest doesn't make much sense to me.

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vcharon
12/17/11 8:54:00 PM
#167:


Mortal Kombat as a series wouldn't beat Resident Evil 4 in a poll.

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pjbasis
12/17/11 8:55:00 PM
#168:




Some nice listening music to those on the side of the Good

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Lopen
12/17/11 8:56:00 PM
#169:


In a series contest it would, though!

And I realize it doesn't make sense to have RE4 in a series contest-- which is the only reason MK wins that.

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red sox 777
12/17/11 8:56:00 PM
#170:


Okay, showtime.

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Kotetsu534
12/17/11 8:58:00 PM
#171:


Gerudo Valley:
Aerith's Theme:

There's a silkiness to Gerudo Valley that chimes with Link/Ganon's easy victory. Aerith's Theme is obviously appropriate in mourning Cloud/Seph's chances' death.

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Xuxon
12/17/11 8:58:00 PM
#172:


Okay Lopen, how about Portal vs Earthbound? That would be a demolition in a series contest, but Ness broke 40 on account of being the strongest single character in the poll.
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TheOceIot
12/17/11 8:58:00 PM
#173:


Speaking of music, here's a version of the Legend of Zelda theme that a few people I know recorded a while back.



It's piano and guitar and sounds pretty awesome if you ask me.

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Lopen
12/17/11 8:59:00 PM
#174:


Ness is stronger than GLaDOS? I'm not sure I buy that.

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abdou
12/17/11 8:59:00 PM
#175:


I have this bad feeling Link will do even better than he does on Cloud 1vs1

this isn't going to be fun

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vcharon
12/17/11 9:00:00 PM
#176:


He will, I'm just going to hope he can stay below 60%.

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 9:01:00 PM
#177:


Vote Accepted

Link vs. Ganondorf 61.54% 24
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 38.46% 15
TOTAL VOTES 39

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paulg235
12/17/11 9:01:00 PM
#178:


Link vs. Ganondorf 61.54%

16
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 38.46%

10
TOTAL VOTES 26

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Some_Character
12/17/11 9:01:00 PM
#179:


Link vs. Ganondorf 63.64%

14
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 36.36%

8
TOTAL VOTES 22

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tennisboy213
12/17/11 9:01:00 PM
#180:


Vote Accepted

Link vs. Ganondorf 56.14% 32
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 43.86% 25
TOTAL VOTES 57

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Kotetsu534
12/17/11 9:01:00 PM
#181:


7th vote, 2nd for Cloud/Seph. Not bad.

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SuperNiceDog
12/17/11 9:01:00 PM
#182:


lol link with 62 percent when i voted

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red sox 777
12/17/11 9:01:00 PM
#183:


Vote Accepted

Link vs. Ganondorf 58.18% 32
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 41.82% 23
TOTAL VOTES 55

There's that FFVII super-early vote.

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spooky96
12/17/11 9:01:00 PM
#184:


Vote Accepted

Link vs. Ganondorf 56.1% 69
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 43.9% 54
TOTAL VOTES 123

Oh no.

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 9:01:00 PM
#185:


68.11% for Mario/Bowser.

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vcharon
12/17/11 9:02:00 PM
#186:


Looks like this might be just out of the "maybe they have a shot range" of most of you.

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charmander6000
12/17/11 9:02:00 PM
#187:


2 perfects, looks like the winner will be perfect this contest

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pjbasis
12/17/11 9:02:00 PM
#188:


Get back here Link!

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Surskit
12/17/11 9:02:00 PM
#189:


well it's over

gg all, best contest ever

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ZFS
12/17/11 9:02:00 PM
#190:


Haha. Link is nearing 60%. This is kind of awesome.

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 9:02:00 PM
#191:


Also looks like a couple of perfect Battle Challengers picked the Trainers or forgot to make a pick.

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red sox 777
12/17/11 9:02:00 PM
#192:


Link now rocketing up with the rest of the first update.

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CP724
12/17/11 9:03:00 PM
#193:


yeah cloud needs to get this up to 44% before the freeze to have any kind of chance.
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WarThaNemesis2
12/17/11 9:03:00 PM
#194:


Oh my god.

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FateStayAlbion
12/17/11 9:03:00 PM
#195:


Cloud really needs to start gaining some % back and fast

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paulg235
12/17/11 9:03:00 PM
#196:


FINALLY, I make it back onto the leaderboard.

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GranzonEx
12/17/11 9:03:00 PM
#197:


Skyward Sword ladies and gentlemen.

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SuperNiceDog
12/17/11 9:03:00 PM
#198:


Master sword right into Cloud&Sephy's hearts! boom

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-LusterSoldier-
12/17/11 9:03:00 PM
#199:


Link vs. Ganondorf 60% 261
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 40% 174
TOTAL VOTES 435

And there's that 60%.

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LeonhartFour
12/17/11 9:03:00 PM
#200:


Link vs. Ganondorf 60% 261
Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth 40% 174
TOTAL VOTES 435

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