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Topictransience presents: the 75 most important matches in contest history
LeonhartFour
12/17/18 3:00:49 PM
#133
transcience posted...
Kefka/Vercetti is this weird contest history footnote that felt pretty big at the time but I cant say that it was really influential after the fact. I ended up leaving it off.


Well, it's notable because that match was the death of insta-updates forever because of BARRIERS and George Romero, so I'd have probably included it myself.

Plus, it's one of the greatest round 1 matches of all time.

_SecretSquirrel posted...
The Gauntlet was Ganon vs. Auron, Snake vs. Zelda (we knew back then!), Sora vs. Alucard, Kirby vs. Tidus, and Bowser vs. Ryu.

All of them ended up being disappointing, but then the match that followed ended up being surprising great. That was DK vs. Master Chief.


Yeah, that was the Gauntlet. It did end up being pretty disappointing since none of those matches were close, but man, on paper, that was a monster set of matches.
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Topictransience presents: the 75 most important matches in contest history
LeonhartFour
12/17/18 2:57:29 PM
#132
transience posted...
I'll admit it: I took Kefka in 2003. After all, Crono had an amazing 2002 run and Final Fantasy was more popular than Chrono Trigger. FF6 fans loved Kefka and the site loved Sephiroth.


Yeah, I feel like people who weren't here in 2003 don't understand just how hyped Kefka was. Magus is the one we all remember now because of how well he did against Link followed by his fall from grace, but lots of people expected big things from him.
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TopicWho's the strongest character that has never won a contest match?
LeonhartFour
12/17/18 2:55:11 PM
#25
spooky96 posted...
I'd say Magikarp beats (any) Cid in 2018. But yeah, wasn't aware of that result >_>


Well yeah, Cid probably doesn't replicate that result now because FFVII in general has deteriorated since then, but it did happen...!
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TopicWho's the strongest character that has never won a contest match?
LeonhartFour
12/17/18 2:51:11 PM
#22
spooky96 posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Magikarp. I don't think anyone that's been in a contest before could break 36% on Mega Man.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/3750-mushroom-division-round-1-mega-man-vs-cid-highwind
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TopicWho's the strongest character that has never won a contest match?
LeonhartFour
12/17/18 2:36:39 PM
#18
TopicStreet Fighter V - Kage trailer
LeonhartFour
12/17/18 2:36:00 PM
#22
I was hoping it would be Kage from Virtua Fighter and now I'm sad
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Topictransience presents: the 75 most important matches in contest history
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 9:14:54 PM
#87
Augh, that Sonic loss hurt, but it made 2006 all the sweeter.
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TopicAnagram plays Persona 3 (spoilers)
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 9:11:31 PM
#160
Anagram posted...
Is there any reason not to study before sleeping?


Only if you're tired because then it doesn't have any benefit because you're too tired.
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Topictransience presents: the 75 most important matches in contest history
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 9:10:01 PM
#85
Lopen posted...
I remember you had a vocal minority arguing for Terra as well and she got blown up almost as hard as Kerrigan


I mean there's a world of difference between 71 and 79

as we saw the very next year when Terra 60/40'd Kerrigan

I will never forget the fact that RPGuy96 got literally 1 point in the entire Devil Division and it was Squall > Geno.
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TopicAnagram plays Persona 3 (spoilers)
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 6:32:43 PM
#151
I feel pretty confident that Anagram will not like Yukari (especially if he plays The Answer), so yeah, Mitsuru is the one.
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TopicAnagram plays Persona 3 (spoilers)
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 6:28:02 PM
#150
Oh, you can get unique scenes and you do occasionally level up under the right circumstances, too, if I recall correctly.
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TopicAnagram plays Persona 3 (spoilers)
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 6:26:13 PM
#147
Nope, in P3, if you say you want to hang out, you're hanging out.
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TopicAnagram plays Persona 3 (spoilers)
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 6:16:48 PM
#145
I mean, Mitsuru is the best, ain't gonna lie, but the game saves the best for last
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TopicErdrick (Dragon Quest 3 hero) possibly leaked for Smash DLC
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 6:14:40 PM
#10
LapisLazuli posted...
I refuse to believe because I refuse to accept they wasted the P5 stage slot on Mementos.


I mean Mementos is the obvious choice

doesn't mean it can't be something else but yeah
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TopicAnagram plays Persona 3 (spoilers)
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 6:11:22 PM
#143
Anagram posted...
I want to do well enough on the upcoming tests to impress Mitsuru, but my academics is only rank 2. I have three days, but I don't know if I can raise it to rank 3 before then. Also my charm and courage are both rank 1.


Building stats is tough in P3 simply because there are only 3. You should probably focus more on charm and courage right now because you've got plenty of time to build academics to ace a test, but you'll need max charm and courage way before then.
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TopicAnagram plays Persona 3 (spoilers)
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 6:09:57 PM
#141
Anagram posted...
Elizabeth's mall date was fun. Not sure what I think of the voice acting, but the date itself was funny and gave her some nice characterization.


My only thought after the date with Elizabeth was that I wanted more dates with Elizabeth.

(also fun fact: Mitsuru and Elizabeth have the same VA)
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Topictransience presents: the 75 most important matches in contest history
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 6:01:55 PM
#60
transience posted...
I remember it

1. FF7
2. OOT
3. CT
4. LTTP
5. Melee
6. Mario 3
7. Goldeneye 007
8. MGS1
9. Halo 1
10. FF6

edit: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/features/10year


Mario 3 was 5th, Melee was 6th.

The funny thing is that I just used the top ten in the Games Contest X-Stats (so I got the top 5 perfect), except I switched out Wind Waker and Starcraft for MGS1 and FFX because I thought those were just flukes. Not sure why I stuck with Halo all things considered, but good thing I did!

I don't think ANYONE saw GoldenEye coming though.
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Topictransience presents: the 75 most important matches in contest history
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 4:17:49 PM
#51
Topictransience presents: the 75 most important matches in contest history
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 3:42:10 PM
#38
Nanis23 posted...
Well not really, it's better to believe Pokemon performance in 2013 was all legit


it's better to realize that Pokemon had insane rallies nearly every match
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Topictransience presents: the 75 most important matches in contest history
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 3:24:23 PM
#34
transcience posted...
I dunno about Tifa being a star - she basically lost to MMX and Mewtwo wasnt great, same as Charizard.


She didn't basically lose to X. There was only a rally for Tifa because X was rallying first. And beating X is a really good win either way.

Beating Luigi and Seph are legit victories, too.

CaptainOfCrush posted...
The 2004 games contest was the first time we saw how far SFF could extend, especially in Nintendo matches. The only notable SFF beatdown in 2002-03 (off the top of my head) was Mario/DK.


Well, we didn't even totally understand the concept of SFF until 2004. That's why Sora was so thoroughly underestimated in 2004 because he got doubled by Aerith in 2003.
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Topictransience presents: the 75 most important matches in contest history
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 3:00:19 PM
#29
FFVII looked pretty solid for the most part this year, Seph/Mario aside. Even losing to Tifa wasn't...super bad.

It's been a long time since I've gotten invested in a Cloud run, too, so that was nice.
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TopicSaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Exposing Frauds Edition [SELF]
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 2:56:27 PM
#411
Well, I have to beat the #1 team in our league twice in three weeks, and he only lost twice all season.

So far so good...!
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Topictransience presents: the 75 most important matches in contest history
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 2:55:22 PM
#27
SuperNiceDog posted...
Also, Undertale vs Melee 2015 has to be top 10(eh... 25 would be ok with me, but minimum top 25)


nope

CT/Melee is the biggest match from 2015 in regards to this list, I'd wager.
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TopicSaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Exposing Frauds Edition [SELF]
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 2:50:15 PM
#409
TopicSaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Exposing Frauds Edition [SELF]
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 9:54:19 AM
#408
TopicSaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Exposing Frauds Edition [SELF]
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 2:37:13 AM
#407
you know you're tired when you're sitting at your laptop one second and you don't even remember falling asleep face down on the table until you wake up an hour later
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TopicCharacter Battle X Oracle Challenge Discussion Part 2
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 2:33:45 AM
#49
I mean it didn't help that my partner stopped participating 40 matches into the contest
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TopicThe Show EP 10- Zelda/Cloud Upset Madness, Crono/MM Slugfest! w TPLink and MZero
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 12:58:45 AM
#45
Also, the more I think about it, the more it feels like Samus was wasted in this bracket. Two matches with Tifa and two matches with Mario, with the Snake match in between, left us with more questions than answers. I feel like we have a pretty good idea where everyone in the Noble Nine is in relation to each other right now except for Samus.
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TopicThe Show EP 10- Zelda/Cloud Upset Madness, Crono/MM Slugfest! w TPLink and MZero
LeonhartFour
12/16/18 12:42:56 AM
#44
Sure, but the point is that if Link can't do it to Snake, why should we believe anyone else can? I think the idea is based on the false premise that Snake was stronger than Samus in 2006 to begin with.
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 10:33:07 PM
#448
aw yeah finishing on a high note with the last accuracy point
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 10:22:36 PM
#446
Lopen posted...
Talking straight X-Stats Link was in about the same place he always was it's just his #1 and #2 competitors fell off to the levels of the rest of the chaff. Mario and Crono and Mega Man and the rest were in about the 38-41 range like they always are. Like Cloud couldn't challenge him but that's only because he was struggling to beat Mario

Not that that makes much of a difference but yeah


Yeah, there's a reason why I said most dominant instead of strongest.
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TopicSaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Exposing Frauds Edition [SELF]
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 5:50:55 PM
#406
Augh, they want me to come in at 5 A.M. on Monday just to help deliver packages

suddenly I can't wait for Christmas to be over
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TopicAce Attorney Topic Part 8: The Announcing (Spoilers for AA1-6, AAI1-2)
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 5:50:13 PM
#401
TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 5:44:06 PM
#442
The Mana Sword posted...
boy, the starts topic went from zero to all fictional character battle in record time this year


well the most dominant Link ever will do that
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TopicThe Show EP 10- Zelda/Cloud Upset Madness, Crono/MM Slugfest! w TPLink and MZero
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 5:05:00 PM
#42
MetalmindStats posted...
I don't think it's too much of a stretch to say that 2010 Cloud was weaker than 2013 Snake, along with 2013 Link probably being below 2010 Link. As for 2006, I think it's safe to say that was Link's best year. As such, I still contend that Snake is likely to perform one or two percentage points worse against a Nintendo character than versus a non-Nintendo character of the exact same strength.


So, what, are we saying 2013 Snake was just as strong if not stronger than 2013 Link?

Anyway, listened at work today. Good episode and good work by the guests.
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TopicNoble Nine's records.
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 8:34:51 AM
#229
In Sonic's defense, he's literally only faced Crono and Mega Man once each, and he never faced Snake before Brawl/MGS4, so he's often faced the members who are out of his league.

And he SHOULD have beaten Samus in 2002.
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TopicThe Show EP 10- Zelda/Cloud Upset Madness, Crono/MM Slugfest! w TPLink and MZero
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 8:31:40 AM
#39
MetalmindStats posted...
Snake is already a bit worse off against Nintendo characters than against non-Nintendo characters due to the Smash series.


But he's really not.

Literally did better against Link than Cloud did in 2006 and 2010.
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 8:29:14 AM
#433
I feel like I know off the top of my head what the most important match ever was, but I don't know how I'd rank a list of them myself.
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 1:14:49 AM
#428
Eh, I feel like best contests has been done a bunch of times already. Most important matches would be more interesting, I think.
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TopicAce Attorney Topic Part 8: The Announcing (Spoilers for AA1-6, AAI1-2)
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 12:50:23 AM
#400
TopicSaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Exposing Frauds Edition [SELF]
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 12:43:15 AM
#405
TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1323
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 12:22:04 AM
#66
Well, Gandalf and Harry Potter could be decent, but it wouldn't be because of the books.

And I think enough voters could make the distinction on which version of Dracula it was.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1323
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 12:17:28 AM
#63
also while the first option isn't doing all THAT well over half the site thinks Link is at least worthy of consideration for best ever and I doubt anyone else would approach that high of a percentage
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TopicCharacter Battle X Contest Analysis Crew - Part 10
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 12:06:47 AM
#425
Had to go back and see which year was my first full year with the Crew. Turns out it was the 2009 Games Contest. I randomly was part of the Crew for the 2006 Series Contest and then got dropped for a few years...!
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1323
LeonhartFour
12/15/18 12:05:55 AM
#62
abdou posted...
very interesting poll, for all of Link's domination, I expected the 1st option to have more votes.


well Link has a bad board vote these days

im317 posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Classic literature characters would not do well at all.


even those with a better global base? and i would think Godzilla would be very strong.


Nah, classic lit would just have too few people who've actually read their stuff. They'd be getting by mostly on name recognition, which would help them beat bad fodder, but they'd have no chance against something with real popularity.

Godzilla is way too niche to be that popular.
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TopicContest Stats and Discussion - Part 1323
LeonhartFour
12/14/18 11:55:19 PM
#56
TopicSaveEstelle/LeonhartFour in Different Houses: Exposing Frauds Edition [SELF]
LeonhartFour
12/14/18 11:54:42 PM
#402
Checked my scores for the first time since the Legends division started

Final scores of 479 and 308 lawl
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TopicThe Show EP 10- Zelda/Cloud Upset Madness, Crono/MM Slugfest! w TPLink and MZero
LeonhartFour
12/14/18 11:51:14 PM
#37
TopicWhat was your favorite result of the contest?
LeonhartFour
12/14/18 11:44:12 PM
#12
Tifa > Mewtwo
Tifa > Mega Man X
Tifa > Sephiroth
Phoenix > Ike
Cloud > Mario
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TopicStar of the contest, excluding Zelda?
LeonhartFour
12/14/18 11:21:18 PM
#23
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