Lurker > LeonhartFour

Come on.

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I don't blame refs for losses, so I can't answer that one.

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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

You obviously haven't realized I don't care.

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From: foolm0ron | #143
So does this topic have a lot of posts because cool news was revealed or because of dumb discussion?
Dumb discussion.

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Up we go again.

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Yeah, the ones that you can actually imagine a dog really doing if it could talk are the best ones. All the other ones are kinda meh.

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Look at this dinosaur

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From: LinkMarioSamus | #435
Melee > Brawl forever

But Smash really isn't my kind of game nowadays.
That's because no game is your kind of game.

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we're so used to piracy that we forget that people used to pay money for music

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Not sure how much longer I can survive without a 3DS.

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FFIX has the worst battle system of that era. I enjoy the way the game does abilities, but that's about the only strong suit it's got going for it compared to the others.

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Brawl > Melee forever

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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

DQ8 was all right from what I played, but I don't favor old school RPGs as much as you do. I mean, I didn't put it down because I didn't like it or something. I just...put it down.

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Jeff Zero and I have determined that ertyu needs to play Mass Effect and have a playthrough topic.

Neither of us are sure how this would go, but we feel it needs to be done.

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From: Natwaf_akidna | #421
How? I forgot >_>

Not that I'm playing it anytime soon, PS2 died.
One of the trigger buttons. Not sure which one it is off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure the game has a tutorial battle where they FORCE you to switch characters, so I'm not sure how you missed this!

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I do need to finish Dragon Quest VIII one of these days. Someone told me I'm close to the halfway point where there's some infamously hard boss fight or something, but I haven't played the game in like two years.

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You can do that.

One of the best things about FFX's battle system, in fact!

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FFX's battle system is pretty fun all the time. Whoo, switching characters around on the fly all the time

Why don't more games do this?

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Indeed.

FFX is like the only game in the series where I consider random battles more than a necessary formality. Part of the reason it's the best! FFXIII would be the other, I suppose. Haven't played XIII-2 yet.

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I don't play Final Fantasy for realism darn it

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Although to be honest, I don't hate FFX-2 like many people seem to. I do actually like the game, believe it or not.

I view it in the same light as I do with Apollo Justice in regard to the rest of the Ace Attorney series, I guess. It has its moments where it's good, but it's inconsistent and manages to horribly botch some of the most beloved aspects of its predecessor.

'hey guys remember how big a deal Zanarkand was in FFX well now we've turned it into a tourist trap and your mission is to play monkey matchmaker'

augh

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From: Natwaf_akidna | #402
But X-2 had the best ATB system!
And yet I don't find myself missing it.

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Although it's implied that they're different planets, actually. Just existing within the same universe, I guess.

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From: Jeff Zero | #398
Five thousand years later, on an abandoned shell of what a long-extinct people once knew as Earth...
more like five thousand years later, on an abandoned shell of what was once known as Spira but now known as the Planet (LOL Gaia, that's one addition the Compilation added I can stand to get rid of)

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"I couldn't stand a day without a past or future. I need to live each moment to keep fighting here and now."

yeah you don't get to decide what I meant by 'five years'

especially considering I've already defined what five games I'm referring to

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FFVII came out in 1997, amigo.

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sorry dude FFXI doesn't actually fit within that timeframe

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Goodnight bump.

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Well, usually when I talk about FFIX, I'm comparing it to the other games in the series from that era. FFIX is a very good game in its own right, but I don't think it really excels in many areas clearly above the others.

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oh so now Kanz is playing the "you never actually said those exact words did you" game

Fun

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Well, as someone who's been in the process of playing all of the FFs from VI on in the last year, I can tell you that FFVII, VIII, and Tactics are still glorious games.

Probably gonna wait to finish this list before I resume with FFIX. With my current job, it'd be pretty difficult for me to do two projects. But for those of you wondering when that's going to start back up, there you go!

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From: ZFS | #376
FFIX is definitely the most enjoyable PS1 FF today. FFXII wins on the PS2
Oy.

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Oh, I think FFIX is an awesome game as well.

Stiff competition though!

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FFIX still the worst of the five in five years.

Hasn't changed its position even a little.

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FFX still amazing today, too

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Symphonia's still fine to me. Replayed it a few months ago.

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ya what ever dont care goes to punch a mirror

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This is the only Tales game on the list! What, with it being the only one I've played and all.

And we hit a flurry of KH stuff there for a bit, but there isn't much else from it that can be on the list.

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #069
Oh yeah, because my posts aren't based on stuff I've seen with my very own eyes
I'm seeing what you're doing with my own eyes, too.

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #062
From: LeonhartFour | #058

*says MM fans throw fits at the slightest provocation*

I see

Are you going to tell me the MM fans weren't raging about 'WAHHHH WHY NO COMPANY MASCOT IN MvC3 WAHHHH" now

Really, Leon
No, I'm going to tell you you're doing the same thing.

From: KommunistKoala | #064
This is literally KanzarisKelshen has no one seen him post before or something
I've seen him post many times.

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*says MM fans throw fits at the slightest provocation*

I see

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #050
Really?
Yes, really.

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #045
Nah, I prefer to say my piece Leon.
I know you do.

But you're coming off as whiny and irrational as the fanbase you're raging against.

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And while you can clearly see the Japanese/anime influence on Tales of Symphonia (such as ‘hey I’m going to do this five second summon animation and shoot out a really slow fireball, just stand still until it hits you’ ‘sure thing dude’), I do like the storyline. One of the things I like about the game is its affection system, and depending on who your top rated partner is at the time, you can get brand new dialogue for certain scenes with that character that you would never get otherwise. I enjoy the scenes designed just for that character at Flanoir and Heimdall. They’re usually interesting scenes where the other character divulges a lot of personal information about themselves to Lloyd. Just about anything that happens in the Tower of Salvation is good stuff, too. That’s when the game’s story really picks up, during your first visit there. Symphonia moves along pretty slowly through the first part of the game up to that point, but it gets really good from that point on.

I will say though as a negative that this game has some terrible dungeons, but for the most part, they’re only bad the first time when you have no idea what to do. Stuff like the Temple of Darkness is fairly straightforward once you know what you’re doing, but Latheon Gorge sucks no matter how many times you do it (That’s the one where you have to use the bubbles and the flowers, if you can’t remember exactly which one I’m talking about). That one can go rot. Well, I’d hate to end this writeup on a sour note, so I’ll finish up by saying I really like Symphonia’s soundtrack, but Board 8 seems to hate it for some reason, particularly the battle themes. It’s got some good stuff there though.

And since no Tales of Symphonia discussion is complete without a character inequality:

Presea > Zelos > Lloyd > Kratos > Sheena > Raine > Regal > Genis > Colette

Bonus Question: What is your favorite Tales game?

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20. Tales of Symphonia


Back when this game came out, it rapidly became a Board 8 sensation thanks to the hype machine formerly known as Heroic Mario (although he would probably prefer to vehemently deny these claims nowadays!), and I decided to buy in myself because we sometimes had similar tastes, depending on what his flavor of the week was. Regardless, I had never played a Tales game before (and I haven’t played one since, what with the only other one I’ve been interested in only being available on a console I don’t own), and I figured I could use a new RPG experience, so I went for it.

Needless to say, as you can see by its high ranking on this list, I really enjoyed Tales of Symphonia. The battle system is really fun. People keep telling me that later Tales games have even better ones, but I can’t say because I haven’t played them! Anyway, Lloyd is a lot of fun to play as with all of his crazy sword moves and linkable attacks. After all, two swords equals twice the power, right? I also enjoy using Presea from time to time because her specials are fun to use, even if she is a bit on the slow side. I generally don’t like using slow characters, but I make an exception for her. Symphonia has some fun boss fights, too, particularly storyline related ones like against anyone from Cruxis. A lot of times it was just satisfying to give the guy what he deserved, as was the case with Rodyle.

Now let’s get into the…”touchy” aspect of Tales of Symphonia, which would be its story and characters. Personally, I love the game’s cast as a whole. For one thing, they have good chemistry together, which makes stuff like Skits so much fun. A lot of them have me rolling because they’re really funny, but then again, I’m easily entertained, so yeah. I know Genis and Colette are often considered to be terrible characters and their annoyance is compounded by the fact that they’re around from the very beginning of the game, but I found them to be more tolerable the last time I played. They occasionally have their moments in skits when they can be enjoyable, even if they are irritating when they’re on their own. Anyway, other than those two, Symphonia’s cast is entertaining, and they have interesting backstories for the most part, especially someone like Zelos. The game can be a bit heavy-handed when it comes to some of the drama at times, but it’s not too bad. But personally, I do enjoy Zelos’s flirtatiousness, Presea’s unintentional ownages, Raine’s craziness, and Lloyd’s…whatever he’s got goin’ on. Put it all together, and it’s a fun group.

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