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swordz9 posted...

Wonder Woman was good, but maybe it was just a fluke >__>

Wonder Woman was good in spite of DC. Not because of them.

The director or WW gave an article where she said the DC executives wanted them to cut the 'no man's land' scene from the movie. She had to fight tooth and nail to be allowed to keep it in.

I enjoyed the movie but it did not restore my trust in DC even a little.
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Wanglicious posted...

i don't know how it is in canada but generally here in the US it's extremely difficult for one to get fired. take the one who killed Castile - they were prepared to A) fire him if guilty, or B) literally pay him to resign if not guilty. and they did, to the tune of just under $50,000. or basically what i assume was a year of pay.

because if not guilty, it's a lot more difficult, if not impossible, to fire him. civil servants have ridiculously good protection. you don't hear many things in the investigation because generally there's two completely separate investigations going on, one by the prosecution, the other by the internal department, and nobody wants to make a public statement until it's done. investigations are slow so unless you can prove wrongdoing of course he'll be paid. just not actually working or doing administrative work instead as that's the best they can do.

And im fine with that being the best they can do for now. And hopefully a guilty verdict gets handed down and they can do more.

But what is the alternative? Suppose you have an innocent cop accused of wrongdoing. They have to suspend him pending an investigation (protocol). Are they just supposed to not pay him? Some investigations take a long time. And now a potentially innocent cop can't support himself or his family as a result of unproved accusations?


So yeah, Ill take a system that pays guilty cops while they are waiting to be proven guilty to avoid a world where innocent cops don't get paid while they are waiting to be proven innocent.
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tbh they added raiding recently and I think it's a huge improvement.

Yeah I'm sure they royally screwed the pooch with their Go-Fest event and probably had no idea how to run an event of that magnitude, but the game itself is still completely fine imo.
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Spent a day playing mini-golf and going to an escape room with Chris.
Saw red briefly at a Dodgers game.

I'd like to do the extra life thing some year and add another dozen names to the list.
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I side with Wang on the drug planting cops. Suspension is the first step.

But we see this time and again.

1) Cop does something bad.
2) Cop get's suspended (because that's the first step).
3) People cry out that cop's never get in trouble.

And then that's it. The story tends to get ignored from there and it just gets tossed into the pile of "times that cops get away with shit". The only time it resurfaces is if down the road it gets reported that the cop was not convicted for whatever it happened to be. But it's seldom reported on or cared about in situations where it goes the other way.


Maybe police departments just need to do a better job clarifying that they are taking their obligatory first step and that it's not the end of the story? Or maybe that should come across more clearly in the articles? Either way it's a problem.
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If he looked anything like squall I would have said it's worth it.
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I don't approve of abortions and i feel they are used a crutch for a society that is incapable of understanding that their actions in life have real effects and consequences.

But holy hell, exceptions can should exist for a reason.
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Jesse_Custer posted...

Raid battles have been fun, but I heard the legendaries will be only available to select players who get invited to participate. That would be disappointing if true.

That does not sound accurate.

The first legendary egg will be at Pokemon GO fest in Chicago but then after that they will start to appear in other places too.


http://pokemongo.nianticlabs.com/en/post/legendarypokemon

Trainers,

As part of our ongoing celebration of Pokémon GO’s one-year anniversary, we’re excited to reveal that Legendary Pokémon are nearly here! Soon, millions of Trainers around the world will be able to discover, battle, and catch these extremely rare and very powerful Pokémon.

As Trainers around the world go out and explore their neighborhoods in search of Pokémon and Raid Battles, they can keep an eye out for unique Legendary Eggs appearing at Gyms. If Trainers and their team are able to successfully defeat a Legendary Raid Boss, they’ll have the opportunity to catch a Legendary Pokémon of their own! While Legendary Pokémon will help them take on the toughest Raid Bosses and Gym Battles, they’re not willing to leave their Trainer’s side, so they can’t be left to defend Gyms.

On July 22, thousands of Trainers in Grant Park for Pokémon GO Fest and the millions of others around the world will be working together to unlock in-game bonuses for the entire Pokémon GO community. If they manage to catch enough Pokémon during the Pokémon GO Fest Challenge Windows, the first Legendary Pokémon will be revealed in Grant Park. If the Trainers in Chicago succeed in defeating the Legendary Pokémon, that Pokémon will start appearing in Raid Battles around the world, after Pokémon GO Fest.

Trainers everywhere can tune in to watch the action taking place in Grant Park live and join in the conversation using #PokemonGOFest on social media. Follow the official livestream on Twitch or YouTube for the latest news coming out of Pokémon GO Fest including Challenge Window updates, exclusive interviews, and the reveal of the first Legendary Pokémon!

It’s time for Trainers everywhere to start powering up their Pokémon for battle because there are many legendary adventures to come!

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Raid battles already reinvigorated the game for me and this announcement has me even more hyped.

I got a tyranitar from a raid on Sunday which was a lot of fun and its much easier now to get daily coins from gym defending.
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Hybrid Theory was my first album ever that was mine alone and both it and Meteora will hold special places in my heart

Same. I definitely didn't listen to their albums after meteora nearly as much but both of those albums saw a ton of play.

This is heartbreaking.
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idk but he certainly seems to be serving some serious ones of whatever those are.

Vocals are pretty solid and reminiscent of the original.
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Tag. Im only a couple episodes along so far.
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Federal + State + FICA consumes about 20-22% of my paychecks.

47% seems like a lot. Both in reference to foolmo's effective taxes and in reference to being a number of people who don't pay any tax.



But regarding "Romney's 47%" factcheck.org says this:

Romney is a bit out of date with his claim that 47 percent of Americans pay no federal income tax. That was true in 2009, but the number is lower now, and falling as the economy improves and more people are working and getting paychecks.

Figures come from the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, and its most recent analysis in July 2011 put the figure for that year at 46.4 percent. That comes to about 76 million individuals or families who paid no federal income taxes in 2011. TPC projected that the percentage would fall to 46 percent this year, and to 44 percent in 2013, under current tax policies.
Let’s take a closer look at the 46.4 percenters.

According to the Tax Policy Center, about half of those who owe no federal income tax are people whose incomes are so low that when standard income tax provisions — personal exemptions for taxpayers and dependents and the standard deduction — are factored in, that simply leaves no income to be taxed. Those are people who earned less than about $27,000.
But that doesn’t mean those folks paid no taxes at all. Many of them paid payroll taxes, those taxes taken out of a paycheck by an employer to fund programs such as Social Security and Medicare. They also pay federal excise taxes, such as those on gasoline, and they may also pay state and local income taxes or property taxes.

So that’s half of Romney’s 46.4 percenters. The rest pay no federal income tax due to tax benefits and credits. Here’s the rest of the breakdown:

-22 percent receive senior tax benefits — the extra standard deduction for seniors, the exclusion of a portion of Social Security benefits, and the credit for seniors. Most of them are older people on Social Security whose adjusted gross income is less than $25,000.

-15.2 percent receive tax credits for children and the working poor. That includes the child tax credit and the earned income tax credit. The child tax credit was enacted under Democratic President Bill Clinton, but it doubled under Republican President George W. Bush. The earned income tax credit was enacted under Republican President Gerald Ford, and was expanded under presidents of both parties. Republican President Ronald Reagan once praised it as “one of the best antipoverty programs this country’s ever seen.” As a result of various tax expenditures, about two thirds of households with children making between $40,000 and $50,000 owed no federal income taxes.

-The rest ended up owing no federal income tax due to various tax expenditures such as education credits, itemized deductions or reduced rates on capital gains and dividends. Most of this group are in the middle to upper income brackets. In fact, the TPC estimates there are about 7,000 families and individuals who earn $1 million a year or more and still pay no federal income tax.


So when Romney says all of those in the 46 percent are “dependent on government,” that’s not accurate. Of the estimated 76 million who paid no federal income tax in 2011, 61 percent earned anywhere between $10,000 and $50,000.

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Grimmz is a lot of fun to watch. He is crazy skilled with a sniper and has awareness borders on precognition.
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I have almost no experience with BB, but this was still a very interesting read and provided insight into how the show works. Thanks :D
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Whiskey_Nick posted...

Giants: 33-26
Rockies: 31-26
Dodgers: 30-28
DBacks: 29-30
Padres: 27-31

!

I am pleased.
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Raka_Putra posted...

At some HEIFER'S place smoking MARIJUANA and having PROTECTED SEX! Is he hot??

The only thing this is missing is "FLORIDA MAN".
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MenuWars posted...

Who? You guys keep using this absurd maybe her bullet would travel and hit someone, through her head AND through the wall, but somehow shooting her 11 times is more safe? That's just stupid.

You have this absurd assumption that there is a 0.000% chance that she could pull the trigger while the gun is pointed at something besides her head.

Maybe she waves the gun awhile while she is talking. Maybe her arm is tired from holding it up so it slips down a bit. Maybe because she is drunk so she is not fully rational and capable of careful movement.

In that situation she is an unstable person who is holding a firearm. And she is approaching and not heeding warnings.

That is all there is to it. And maybe she was a great person the rest of her life and it's a tragedy that this occurred. But that doesn't make them wrong to use force.

We've covered why you don't use taser in that situation.
We've covered why you don't aim for her hand.
We've covered why you don't just fire one time and then hope really hard that it was enough.


So what do you have to bring to the table other than "the cops are cowards" based on nothing but your own emotions.
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MenuWars posted...

There's a huge difference between being in your own home with a gun to your head and walking down the street with it, you guys are crazy.

Walking towards other people. People who had been called into her home because of the situation who couldn't leave until the situation was resolved.


I really don't understand why you can't get this.
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MenuWars posted...

I'm absolutely not full of shit, if I'm a police officer my job is literally to serve and protect, not to protect myself at all costs regardless of any provocation.

Absolute cowardice.

They are protecting anyone else that might get injured by the suicidal drunk person with a gun.
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StealThisSheen posted...

I want to live in your world where I can go rob somebody at gunpoint, but then when the cops show up, have them just let me walk away free as long as I'm pointing the gun at myself as I do so.

Sounds like a pretty sweet deal.

Yeah, idk about this analogy. You can pretty much just stick to the situation as it occurred without taking this stretch.


A more apt scenario would be someone just walking down the street all day with a gun pointed at their own head and the cops being unable to do anything about it because they are "only a danger to themselves".
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MenuWars posted...

Cool beans man, your logic is that a force that's supposed to help people is okay to murder someone who is suicidal because they stepped toward them. Perfectly happy for you to think my points don't stand because you're nuts.

Yeah, that was definitely the only reason. It had nothing to do with the gun she was holding.


Please do not ever be a police officer or be in a position to tell police officers how to do their job.
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If you want to be completely accurate they shot *at* her 13 times.

Only 11 of their shots hit her.


And yes, they were completely justified.

You say:
MenuWars posted...

Why does that necessitate 11 shots?

But once you are at a point where the use of force is justified then it is standard procedure to fire off a rapid burst intend to fully disable the target within the first couple seconds.

You don't fire once and check to see if you hit them and if you happened to hit a part of them that disables them from the beginning. You fire a handful of times in quick succession because that is the safest thing to do in terms of disabling a threatening situation.


So far you've only displayed that you don't understand how officers are trained to use force in implying they should "aim for the hand" and saying they should not fire a full burst of shots.
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MenuWars posted...

...and you literally believe shooting a drunken suicidal woman 11 times is perfectly justifiable.

Based on the events that unfolded there is no doubt about it.

And I don't know with 100% certainty, but I would say that there is a reasonable chance that the woman herself advanced on them knowing they would shoot with that in mind, rather than pull the trigger herself. Otherwise she would have just done it during the 30 minutes beforehand. She was taking her own life into her hands by advancing on them and ignoring their directives.
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MenuWars posted...

Right so the only option was to shoot the suicide bidder 11 times. Gotcha.

You've already ceded that she was not only suicidal but inebriated. She was holding a gun. She was approaching the officers. She was not heeding warnings to stop and drop the weapon.

This is an open and shut scenario based on those events.

The only lingering question is if the scenario could have been prevented before she opened the door and approached. And that is the only part of this that is open to conjecture. Not the events that followed and their justification in using force based on those events.
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MenuWars posted...

or just shooting the hand that was holding the weapon

And we've already mentioned why this is NOT what officers are trained to do.

Shooting a hand or shooting the gun out of someone's hand is a hollywood scenario that does not happen in real life.
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StealThisSheen posted...

But people like me and Machete and FFD

>_<
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StealThisSheen posted...

The court ruled against the cops not because they think shooting her was bad in THAT SPECIFIC situation, but because they think the cops shouldn't have let it get to that point in the first place.

Issue is, the court doesn't have to give any alternative thoughts to what could have been done differently or anything in the ruling. Like, they said "Well, they should have had ballistic shields so that her shooting at them was never an issue," but... Cops don't normally bring ballistic shields to a suicide call, so they would have left to get them, which obviously wasn't possible.

Thus, we disagree with the ruling.

Yes, this. If the ruling is in dispute then you can't use the ruling itself as your evidence.

It is also a dangerous precedent to set because you don't want officers feeling like they can't do what must be done in dangerous situations. The looming cloud of a million dollar lawsuit might cause hesitation in situations where it can't be afforded.

“All of our analyses, both by our internal and outside experts, concluded that the officers acted within the legal standards for use of force,” May said, acknowledging, “The jury found otherwise.”

-the madison city attorney
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MenuWars posted...

Also if the officers testified that they shot her because she refused to drop the weapon, where are you getting the acted threateningly, waved her arms about, advanced on them with a weapon parts?

"acted threateningly". Who said this happened?

"waved her arms about". Who said this happened?

"advanced on them with a weapon"
-This part actually happened and is very important.

MenuWars posted...

If she was acting like a psychopath, why was 7 million dollars awarded?

If I had to guess it would be because juries are sympathetic in situations like that and cops are getting a lot of bad publicity for police shootings these days. It's also possible that there was some procedure they failed to follow or some reason to believe they could have better deescalated the situation before it played out the way it did.

But you cant use a potentially erroneous court decision to justify your hypothetical fantasy scenario.


We saw the court decision and said "Well based on the article and the events, that seems like a bad court decision".

You ignored the evidence and description of events are instead using the fact that a court decision was awarded to push your own narrative.

That's quite a different take there.
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MenuWars posted...

I merely said the boyfriend would have alerted them to anyone in the vicinity that may have been in harms way, like this was a suicide bid not a hostage situation

And this boyfriend happens to know everyone within a quarter of a mile and knew their exact locations.

What kind of hypothetical situation have you crafted for yourself here?
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MenuWars posted...

Oh and to answer your question, about what I'd have them do, I'd have them guard outside whilst medical professionals were called, hell get some tranq darts, if you have to shoot someone that was trying to commit suicide 11 times, you're a douchebag, stupid, and a coward.

Or someone with a gun is approaching you, they are refusing orders to stop or drop the gun, so you do the regrettable because you must.

I don't envy them having to do that, but in this specific situation they had to.

We've already discussed that the number of shots is not an absurd number. Not unless they shot her once every 5-6 seconds over the course of a minute. But all 11 shots likely occurred in a single burst of shots.

If they only fired once apiece it would have been stupid and dangerous.
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MenuWars posted...

The only reason to fear a suicide bid if you're not a friend/loved one of the person is if you're either an insurance broker, a debtor or worried they wont die and will cause extremely expensive medical bills.

To further pick apart this post, it's a good thing in your made up scenario funerals are never ruinously expensive.

(spoilers: they can be)
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He spend charity funds on a picture of himself.

This is business as usual for our citrus in chief.
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Waluigi1 posted...

Can we talk about how they shot her ELEVEN times. Dafuq.

No. Cops are trained (and rightfully so) to fire multiple times in quick succession in scenarios where it is justified to use force.

Cops don't aim for the gun or aim for the leg because that would not be as likely to resolve the threat of the situation.

Cops aim for the torso because it's the target they are most likely to hit, and they fire multiple times because a single shot is also often not enough to remove any threat.


Eleven might sound like a lot, but it really isn't once you've determined the use of force was reasonable.
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HaRRicH posted...

Donald Junior had at least his traveling expenses covered in 2016 though, so he's not out of the woods in that regard yet either.

Also true. I was just noting that there is a potential justification for this particular payment to be unrelated to the 2016, however flimsy that justification might be.

None of which changes the more damning aspects of the situation.
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In fairness to that point about the lawyer's fees the "trump campaign" in that sense is the 2020 election campaign. Not the 2016 campaign during which the wrongdoing occurred.

So you could make the argument that just because he's a part of the 2020 campaign doesn't mean he was officially a part of the 2016 campaign.


Although it's funny that the lawyer services are being rendered as part of the 2020 "primary" campaign as indicated by the checked boxes on the disbursement rather than the "general" campaign. Trump has already assumed he is going to be primary'd by his own party?
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This just seems so clear.

And even the excuse that "there wasn't anything of value at the meeting" doesn't change the fact that the meeting and the INTENT behind the meeting was to collude with a foreign power for damning information.

In many case trying to commit a crime but being unsuccessful doesn't change the fact that it's a crime. If you rob someone at gunpoint and their wallet is empty then you still robbed someone at gunpoint.



And then for good measure throw in the fact that June 9th, the same day of the meeting itself was the very first time trump mentioned on twitter about hillary's missing emails:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/741007091947556864

So I think it's safe to say they learned something at the meeting regarding Clinton or there was some huge coincidental knowledge that happened to be learned on the same day that they were trying to learn knowledge regarding HRC.



So we can see all this plain as day now and they expect us to believe that Trump was not only in his office but had no idea a meeting of that nature was taking place? Right.
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I'm slow then :/

Like the meeting and emails are bad enough, but the fact that it so neatly fits into place inside of other confirmed events and matches the tone of a speech that agent orange gave just a couple days later.

That seems huge.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/886534810575020032

yup, we're still doing #butheremails.

One of the reply chains includes this image:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEeNk8kXgAE6oHg.jpg

Is that accurate? o_O
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The cops had already been there for 30 minutes so it stands to reason that they had a reason to worry for either their own safety or the safety of others that was prompted by something she was saying or doing.
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Super Mario World, all exits.
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I saw many people in wheel chairs and motorized wheel chairs(?) going through the lines like regular people. So that seems like it wouldn't work anyways. Not that you should scam disney even if it would work.

But I think Universal Studios Orlando still had special access for people in wheel chairs.
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I'm still not sure there are 2 full days worth of content at magic kingdom if you are (A) age gated from some of the bigger attractions and (B) have access to magic hours so you can see/do a lot before general admission is allowed in.


Then again your children may want to do the same favorite attraction numerous times, so this could account for that.
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Raka_Putra posted...

SBell0105 posted...

I mean it's just weed. It's not like he said "oh my God heroin "

Just give him time...

Weed is a gateway "oh my god" after all.
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cyko posted...

Are you staying at a hotel on Disney Property or off site?

This is also a quality question. If you are staying at a Disney Resort then you can plan your days to line up with the extra "Magic Hours" and get into the parks a couple hours before general admission. You can really get a lot done in the hours before everyone else is allowed in.

My wife and I did not have this benefit so we had to pick the days we did specific parks to AVOID the parks with magic hours so we would not be entering a park at "opening" that has already been half full for a couple hours.
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SBell0105 posted...

Skipping animal kingdom.

idk about this.

Animal kingdom has a lion king play and a finding nemo musical which are both really cool and fairly kid friendly. (Maybe a touch on the loud side? But the content is great). It also wound up being the favorite park of both my wife and myself. Although part of the reason we loved it was the Avatar section and the 3D avatar ride which they would not be able to ride or appreciate. But there are a lot of animal walking trails which are basically mini-zoos scattered around and I would say it would be a better park for kids.

if you had to skip one I might even recommend it be Hollywood Studios, but then you miss the meet and greet with chewbacca (he hugged me!) so that sounds like a no. But there seemed to be a lot at Hollywood that isn't as kid friendly. Like the Tower of Terror and the aerosmith rollercoaster to name a couple.

We spent 1 day at each park and I couldn't imagine skipping any of them tbh. Magic Kingdom was hard to do in 1 day, but we did it on a wednesday to get the midweek crowd instead of the weekend crowd and barely got it done. But that was with plotting in all the major attractions that you would be skipping like space mountain, splash mountain and thunder mountain. If you are already forced to forego a lot of those then you can focus on the slow moving kid friendly rides, like the little mermaid, peter pan and small world.
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Having just been to the parks, 3 and 5 does seem a bit young :/

Not just in terms of not being able to do everything (though that seems important), but in terms of being able to spend the entire day in the park before they kids run out of gas. It seems a shame to not spend every possible minute in the parks, but it certainly felt like families would be leaving the parks as soon as early to mid afternoon because their kids had enough for the day.
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As much as I would love to smoke literally everyone in fat guy DDR, being newly married and poised for a promotion I don't see myself being able to take the time to make the trip.

I'm more than willing to cede my "maybe" position to someone else at this point.
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