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TopicTeacher was teaching Bible in class - got reported, Christians dox the family
adjl
03/25/21 1:56:30 PM
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Wait, where's the doxxing? The article mentions the father's name and the community's support of the teacher, but I don't see anything about doxxing.

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TopicStudies show states with GOP leadership had worse COVID 19 outcomes
adjl
03/25/21 1:01:54 PM
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MartianManchild posted...
Its from this. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

I'm not seeing any data visualizations showing up on that page, even with ublock/noscript disabled. Which browser are you using?

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TopicStudies show states with GOP leadership had worse COVID 19 outcomes
adjl
03/25/21 12:49:42 PM
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MartianManchild posted...
Well as more research comes out that supports what Im saying,

What an objective, reasonable way to approach science that is.

Got an actual link for the alleged CDC graph? I don't doubt that the data comes from CDC, but I do doubt that the data displayed hasn't been cherry-picked to support the agenda of a particularly bitter subset of the non-scientist public.

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TopicStudies show states with GOP leadership had worse COVID 19 outcomes
adjl
03/25/21 12:36:38 PM
#9
Entity13 posted...
Most blue states are also at typical points of entry for the country (such as air or sea), so of course a crowded entryway is going to see a mess at first before anywhere else. And by the time our country realized the virus might have reached our shores, it had already spread to the red states, but the symptoms were still developing in the aforementioned blue.

Honestly, it took long enough to take root in states other than NY, Washington, and California that pretty much every other state could have gotten it under control with quick, decisive measures to limit the spread and restrict interstate travel. Instead, the country spent four months arguing over whether or not the disease even existed, fighting against infection control measures, and insisting that, if it did, it was only going to be major cities in those states that had anything to worry about. That's the real tragedy here: Everyone saw this outcome coming, and it didn't have to be this bad.

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TopicUtah signs bill to BLOCK ALL PORN on ALL MOBILE DEVICES to protect CHILDREN!!!
adjl
03/25/21 10:47:18 AM
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Full Throttle posted...
She said this can pass constitutional muster because adults can deactivate the filters

So it'll accomplish almost nothing to restrict kids' access, while still hurting the industry because older, paying customers will inevitably encounter problems getting around it. You'd think all these old men would have realized how futile it is to try outsmarting youth when it comes to technology, given how often they have to ask their children/grandchildren for help with the computer box.

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TopicSeeing some of the post and topics on the politics board fucking terrifies me.
adjl
03/25/21 8:58:11 AM
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Lokarin posted...
I don't like destroying statues from a, like, art point of view - so moving them to a museum is just fine.

Particularly where museums make it easier to contextualize and explain who the subject is, rather than being a simple "look at this guy he's great!" like a public statue display is. That said, most of the statues in question aren't exactly special, artistically speaking. They tend to just be sculptures of dudes, and frankly, that particular genre hasn't really gone anywhere since ancient Rome. The ones that are artistically interesting, I'm all for saving, but that's a pretty small minority.

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TopicMicrosoft looking to buy Discord for $10 Billion
adjl
03/24/21 2:59:15 PM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
I only started using it a few years ago (so after the buyout I think), but it has consistently been the better of the video chat applications for me.

It's bloated, riddled with buggy ads (which have triggered virus warnings for me on occasion), and the call quality has a bad habit of degrading over time. Switching to Discord was very much not a hard sell.

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TopicMassive container ship gets stuck sideways in the Suez Canal
adjl
03/24/21 12:32:25 PM
#12
captpackrat posted...
So apparently just before entering the canal, the Ever Given did this:


Was it trying to tell all the other container ships where the good flowers were?

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TopicHR just sent out a "human trafficking is illegal" notice
adjl
03/23/21 1:34:08 PM
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Somehow, in London, this doesn't surprise me.

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TopicKrispy Kreme offers free donuts for the rest of the year if you get vaccinated
adjl
03/23/21 1:24:21 PM
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blu posted...
Giving out 190 calories for free once daily isnt going to contribute to the obesity epidemic. If someone replaced their current healthy breakfast with a donuts and a coffee theyd likely lose weight.

If that's added on top of eating 2000 calories per day without making any other adjustments, that'd be a 10% increase in caloric intake, which is definitely enough to result in some weight gain. Granted, I don't think anyone is going to be that dedicated about it without also adjusting their diet a bit (whether deliberately or because the extra donut fills them up enough to eat less in the closest meal), but it's still hypothetically possible.

Of course, what's actually likely to happen is that people coming in for their free donut get upsold on other products, and the health implications of that can be much more significant (but also much harder to predict).

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TopicMicrosoft looking to buy Discord for $10 Billion
adjl
03/23/21 12:47:49 PM
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MS' purchase of Mojang hasn't been bad, but Skype is incomprehensibly awful now, which is precisely why I've switched to Discord. If this goes through, I see a Discord competitor popping up rather quickly that a sizable portion of Discord's current base flocks to.

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TopicSuper Mario 64 Sucks... And Here's Why
adjl
03/23/21 7:58:13 AM
#75
wwinterj25 posted...
I also made a pre-order for Hades on the Switch.

Have you played Hades before?

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TopicTrump's gold-plated Boeing 757 sitting idle at NY airport
adjl
03/22/21 1:58:30 PM
#15
darkknight109 posted...
The travel allowance is for work-related activities only and I can find nothing that suggests that the maintenance on a private plane would be covered.

I could see it potentially being covered as part of the travel allowance, but certainly not in addition to it.

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TopicPirro ends Segment After Guest Says Biden Is 'Making America Great'
adjl
03/22/21 10:01:27 AM
#4
"If I don't let you talk anymore after I say something it means I'm right."

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TopicWhy have aspics fallen out of popularity?
adjl
03/22/21 9:54:51 AM
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shadowsword87 posted...
It was popular because gelatin was considered a rich person food for a long, long time considering just how hard it is to get it. Then as gelatin was mass produced, everyday people could buy it. But it still had the associate with rich people, but regular people could make it.

Pretty much. Its ready availability was exciting and novel, so people took full advantage of it. Then the novelty wore off and people realized that shoving ordinary food into jello was a bunch of extra work for very little gain, particularly where they were so common that you really weren't setting yourself apart from your neighbours by putting together a showy jelly presentation, so they stopped bothering and now everyone just thinks it was weird to make jelly everything. Aspics specifically still show up periodically (they're officially the topping of choice on canape, though that's not something most people ever bother with and they tend to branch out from the "classical" format if they do), but jelly salads and the like are really only done by somebody looking to make something weird-looking.

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TopicAre there any games with artillery that makes sense?
adjl
03/22/21 9:45:52 AM
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Factorio's artillery functions roughly as artillery should. You can either build stationary turrets or use trains of artillery wagons. The range is very long and can be upgraded (theoretically infinitely, but the cost to do so scales very quickly and rapidly outpaces what is reasonable to achieve), but they fire very slowly and have a minimum range that means they need close-range support to protect them. The ammo is also quite expensive and awkward to transport (stacks to 1 in chests/train wagons/player inventory, but you can load 100 into an artillery wagon or 15 into a turret)

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TopicTrump Supporters and Anti-Vaxxers UNITE as HALF of them will NOT be VACCINATED!
adjl
03/21/21 11:19:55 PM
#34
Hospy posted...
Original post says "50% of americans who voted for Trump said they would never get the vaccine"

The survey linked that you also pointed out states the question was only posed to those who had not already been vaccinated, herego the original post is incorrect.

I think your mistake is taking Duckbear's statistics at face value. He's really not very good at the whole math thing, nor at interpreting the context in which numbers are used (I fully expect that the dailymail article he's paraphrased said something to the effect of "50% of trump supporters that haven't been vaccinated are refusing the vaccine," and he just left out the important qualifiers). Any specific numbers you see in a duckbear post should be taken with a grain of salt and researched further if you want more than a vague understanding of the situation.

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TopicDoctors want to PULL THE PLUG on Man with COVID-19 but he's BLINKING!!!
adjl
03/21/21 8:17:08 PM
#14
Could go either way. It sounds like a bit more than what you typically see as involuntary actions, but those are very subjective assessments from laypeople with about as much confirmation bias as anyone can possibly have. Brain dead people often make some very deliberate-seeming actions which aren't actually voluntary, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's all that happened here. It's well worth double-checking, given the stakes, but ultimately I'm inclined to trust doctors' assessment of the situation, given that they've seen many brain dead patients before, likely including these same movements and responses.

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TopicThat stupid Diablo II remaster
adjl
03/20/21 6:01:30 PM
#16
funkyfritter posted...
After warcraft 3 reforged retroactively made the game worse I think it's fair to be pessimistic about a new blizzard remaster.

More than that, I'm outright refusing to buy any future Blizzard products until I feel I can trust them not to break whatever I buy a decade down the road. It's a shame, because I'm quite interested in getting to play Diablo 2 and I'm sure I'd thoroughly enjoy it, but it's going to take a while for them to rebuild the bridge that Reforged burned.

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TopicTrump Supporters and Anti-Vaxxers UNITE as HALF of them will NOT be VACCINATED!
adjl
03/20/21 12:50:35 PM
#15
peanutt121 posted...
edit: I still think Trump having covid was a lie to make him look superhuman/covid easy to overcome or both. In his condition I'm pretty sure he'd have died.

He did have several million taxpayers' dollars available to get him the absolute best possible medical care. It's believable enough, though I'm very much bothered by how many people have said "He survived it! It's no big deal!" as though even a fraction of the treatment he got is attainable for any ordinary citizen.

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TopicWeight check: higher or lower edition
adjl
03/20/21 12:43:07 PM
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Something something eggs something chicken thighs something something milk.

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TopicAre you still gonna post here in your 50s?
adjl
03/20/21 12:15:42 PM
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Hard to say. As Zeus said, if I were particularly planning to leave, I would have already, but another two decades is long enough that I could see that changing and me drifting away.

This is, of course, assuming GameFAQs is even a thing by then. Who knows if it'll last that long.

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TopicSony to buy Fighting Game Tourney EVO...
adjl
03/20/21 12:10:29 PM
#2
Presumably that means no more Smash.

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TopicI'm loving the Snyder Cut, but I can't fucking believe it's 4:3 ratio...
adjl
03/20/21 11:34:12 AM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
if my computer had a disc drive I would pop in an old dvd with widescreen option in the menu and take pics.
fullscreen stretches to the whole screen, widescreen puts the black bars on the edge

If you have a widescreen monitor (the vast majority of monitors on the market these days), fullscreen (4:3) video will have vertical bars on the left and right sides of the screen to account for how much wider the monitor is than the image. If you have a non-widescreen monitor, widescreen video will have horizontal bars on the top and bottom sides of the screen to account for how much taller the screen is than the image.

If fullscreen video is completely filling a 16:9 screen, it's because the video has been stretched to fit, which causes substantial distortion. If you'd rather have that distortion than have it letterboxed, that's your prerogative, but it's outright wrong to say that widescreen images get letterboxed on widescreen displays, or that vertical bars are added. If that's happening on your screen, either you have a non-standard monitor, or you've got something set wrong in your display options.

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TopicWeight check: higher or lower edition
adjl
03/20/21 10:33:49 AM
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Well under. I haven't weighed myself recently, but I dropped 20-odd pounds over the last year due to being stingier with food to account for tight finances (CERB helped a lot, but supporting two people on it was squishy). I'd been hovering around 185-190 for the past decade or so, but I was down under 170 the last time I weighed myself. That was several months of gainful employment and healthier eating ago, though, so it wouldn't surprise me if I've gained some of it back.

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TopicI have over 1,000 karma on gamefaqs
adjl
03/20/21 10:26:00 AM
#16
Zeus posted...
As much as I know you love diminishing my and others' victimhood and suffering,

Dude. It's karma on GameFAQs. Past ~75 it amounts to absolutely nothing of any practical value, and even before then the only thing you're missing out on is being able to post more frequently on GameFAQs (which isn't exactly a life-changing prize). It's impossible to diminish your "suffering" enough.

Zeus posted...
I'm at maybe 80% of my potential karma which is a huge f***ing loss, considering that I've missed posting maybe a handful of days in the almost 20 years I've used this account.

Again, I've got substantially less than you have despite my similar account age and fairly clean moderation history. Most of that deficit - for both of us - stems from missing the capricious karma boost days that got thrown around in the site's earlier years, not from moderations.

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Topicthe perfect Buttermilk pancakes
adjl
03/19/21 10:31:18 PM
#29
Revelation34 posted...
I don't have any measuring cups anymore.

That does complicate matters somewhat.

Lokarin posted...
ok, realtalk: f*** measuring cups... the label always wears off of the plastic ones and the metal ones always get dented like a week after you buy them and are no longer accurate

I've never particularly had a problem with either plastic or metal ones, and I got my current set of plastic ones from the dollar store 2-3 years ago.

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TopicRand Paul dominates Fauci by using science against him.
adjl
03/19/21 9:39:23 PM
#47
OhhhJa posted...
He has quite clearly botched this pandemic response every step of the way.

Do you think that wearing masks and maintaining a distance of 6 feet wherever possible isn't a sensible way to reduce transmission of an aerosol-borne virus?

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TopicRand Paul dominates Fauci by using science against him.
adjl
03/19/21 6:11:44 PM
#31
OhhhJa posted...
If we're waiting on 100% vaccination to stop wearing masks then I guess we'll be wearing them for the rest of our lives.

adjl posted...
Quite simply, mask recommendations will go away when case numbers get and remain low enough for masks to no longer be beneficial. That's the only sensible basis for lifting them.


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TopicThis is the hot news issue of the day.
adjl
03/19/21 2:35:20 PM
#11
The way the embedded video looks on my screen, unless I fullscreen it, the video titles cuts off as "Joe Biden FA...", which really made me hope the next three letters were "RTS."

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TopicRand Paul dominates Fauci by using science against him.
adjl
03/19/21 2:26:23 PM
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Zeus posted...
it's the same Fauci who was photographed maskless and not social distancing (iirc, there might be a whole collection of images?) which demonstrates he doesn't take his own recommendations seriously,

Which of the following explanations do you think is more likely?

  • Fauci's recommendations (which countless other public health experts and officials have been giving since this whole thing began and are completely consistent with what anyone that has a basic understanding of aerodynamics and infectious diseases would expect to be recommended to limit the spread of an aerosol-borne virus) are bogus and do not actually do anything to help control the spread, so he ignores them whenever he doesn't have to keep up appearances to maintain this inexplicable scheme to force the whole country to wear a mask
  • Hordes of anti-maskers are scrutinizing his every move in hopes of finding some means to discredit him because they've spent the last year desperate for some shred of evidence that these recommendations might not be worth listening to, and have managed to capture a small handful of instances of Fauci (an ordinary human) making mistakes (an ordinary human thing to do) that appear (at least without context) to demonstrate a failure to comply with his recommendations
I'll give you a hint: One of those options is a reasonable interpretation of the obvious empirical reality we've all been readily able to observe, very consistent with basic common sense, and doesn't suggest that the person espousing such an interpretation has fallen prey to a ridiculous conspiracy theory. The other is what you said.

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TopicRand Paul dominates Fauci by using science against him.
adjl
03/19/21 9:35:42 AM
#7
Far-Queue posted...
I appreciate your more verbose approach adjl but I like to cut to the chase: only a shit-for-brains dummy would believe Rand Paul got one up on Fauci in that discussion

I generally prefer to explain to morons just why they're being moronic. It may be wasted on them (being morons and whatnot), but in a public setting like this is helps to prevent them from misleading those for whom there is still hope.

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TopicI have over 1,000 karma on gamefaqs
adjl
03/19/21 9:26:55 AM
#11
Zeus posted...
I think I should have and would have had over 9,000 if I had been one of NPCs and only espoused the blandest pro-SJW viewpoints instead of putting the SJW movement on blast.

As much as I know you love humping your victim complex to sleep every night, your account is only 6 months older than mine, and has more than six months' worth of karma more than I've got. Your karma demonstrably has not suffered appreciably for your poor behaviour, and certainly not to enough of an extent to account for missing 7 years' worth.

Final Fantasy2389 posted...
I'm looking.

That said, this topic got me to look at mine for the first time in forever. Just passed 6000 a short time ago...

Same, though a couple months before you did.

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TopicRand Paul dominates Fauci by using science against him.
adjl
03/19/21 9:20:19 AM
#5
Or, more accurately, somebody desperate for anything they can possibly use to discredit Fauci because they've been opposed (mostly baselessly) to the public health recommendations he's been making since day one and want nothing more than to stop doing anything to stop/slow Covid.

For what it's worth, I don't think that citing the risk posed by variants is a good justification for continued mask usage. They do represent an unknown factor that has the potential to get out of control if it turns out the vaccine doesn't adequately prevent them, and continuing to use masks and distance dramatically reduces that risk, but that's also mostly speculative. What isn't speculative, however, is that there's no practical way to verify that somebody has been vaccinated, and there are millions upon millions of people in the US that would happily lie about being vaccinated if it meant they could stop wearing masks.

Quite simply, mask recommendations will go away when case numbers get and remain low enough for masks to no longer be beneficial. That's the only sensible basis for lifting them. Any sooner, and you face the risk of discovering that the downward trend in cases can't be purely attributed to the vaccine, resulting in cases climbing again (and you can bet your ass that people will fight tooth and nail to not have to put the masks back on once they're told they can take them off, making it much harder to wrangle that new wave).

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TopicYou don't go on a killing rampage because of having a "a bad day".
adjl
03/19/21 9:03:05 AM
#36
Blighboy posted...
Does it stop being so once they form paramilitary groups, or once they start an actual war?

I wouldn't say so. Such activities aren't exactly mentally healthy, after all.

Blighboy posted...
At what point did the members of the KKK become mentally ill?

Arguably, when society evolved such that their philosophies and actions were no longer acceptable. Defining mental illness based on the social norms at the time is perhaps a bit questionable, but if we're defining disordered thinking as anything that detriments the life of the person and those around them (significantly and systematically, at least, since I don't think there's any merit in saying somebody's mentally ill because they voluntarily farted in an elevator once), sociology has to factor into that because it's going to depend on what people expect and need from the person.

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TopicRand Paul dominates Fauci by using science against him.
adjl
03/19/21 8:44:47 AM
#2
In what way is that "using science"?

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Topic18 y/o Kid Prays he doesn't Die on SKYDIVE..and DIED after a failed parachute!!!
adjl
03/19/21 8:42:46 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
So, if the instructor was certified, they would've survived the fall without a working parachute?


They wouldn't, but it would rule out questions of whether or not the instructor's failure to recognize that the parachute wouldn't work was because he was inadequately trained. There are a lot of things that can go wrong in skydiving, and a major focus of training is learning to recognize and correct those potential problems to ensure the jump can be completed successfully.

It's quite possible that proper training wouldn't have prevented this either way, but if the company can't prove that he was properly trained, they can't blame that for this incident and therefore can't avoid liability.

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TopicYou don't go on a killing rampage because of having a "a bad day".
adjl
03/18/21 5:34:26 PM
#23
Blighboy posted...
These people see themselves as soldiers in a war.

Sounds a lot like psychosis to me.

Zeus posted...
I'm not sure where I saw the reference so I don't want to cite it as a matter of fact, but I thought I might have seen it mentioned somewhere that he had been to at least one of those parlors before.

Otherwise massage parlors often tend to have that reputation, even when they're aboveboard because massage parlors do get used as fronts for prostitution.

For what it's worth, I also saw such a reference but also don't remember exactly where, so your anecdotal evidence is twice as reliable now. I also saw (in another topic on this subject) that two of the three parlours were listed in a couple of local apps for seeking sex workers, so I think it's reasonable to accept the presumption that they were operating as such.

Zeus posted...
A history of mental illness already implies documentation.

As commonly used, that is the assumption, but it really doesn't need to be. Very few of these cases genuinely come out of nowhere. There are almost always warning signs of preexisting mental health issues that nobody follows up on (for any number of reasons, some of them quite legitimate), even if the person never actually gets a diagnosis.

Zeus posted...
Beyond that, I would refer you to abnormality vs insanity

Which is basically what I'm getting at above with the concept of informal mental disorders. Forming a distinction between the two is not without merit, particularly for the sake of not stigmatizing people that are mentally ill in a manner that is quite harmless to those around them, but I would argue that - even without a formal diagnosed disorder - any concept of sanity that doesn't automatically exclude mass murderers is largely useless.

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TopicYou don't go on a killing rampage because of having a "a bad day".
adjl
03/18/21 5:13:42 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Radicalized people do this s*** all the time. We don't traditionally treat it as mental illness and it's not classically defined as such.

I don't know if it's helpful or even accurate to begin looking at white supremacy or misogyny as mental health crises.

Broadly, a mental disorder is a mental state that interferes with one's ability to function in everyday life. Informally, I'd say that white supremacy could definitely qualify as mentally disordered, even if it doesn't align with any formally defined Mental Disorder. Think about it like mild nausea: Something's not working right, but generally you aren't going to meet any sort of diagnostic criteria for a specific gastrointesinal disease. Except instead of a tummyache, you're murdering people because they're not white enough.

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TopicYou don't go on a killing rampage because of having a "a bad day".
adjl
03/18/21 5:08:58 PM
#15
Mead posted...
Im not even sure what that is supposed to mean

what a stupid thing to say

I'm guessing it translates roughly to "I know the guy's parents and don't want to offend them by actually calling their son a deranged psychopath." That, or his parents hold some sort of power within the community and he doesn't want to piss them off.

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TopicYou don't go on a killing rampage because of having a "a bad day".
adjl
03/18/21 4:56:08 PM
#10
Zeus posted...
even a lot of people who don't have a history of mental illness have sometimes been set off by a bad day.

A history of *documented* mental illness. Mentally healthy people don't go on murder sprees, regardless of how bad their day has been

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Topicbought a switch a little back and it arrives tomorrow
adjl
03/18/21 3:58:24 PM
#32
papercup posted...
I hear keeping it in Sleep for extended periods of time can cause memory problems.

Mine's been in sleep mode pretty much since launch without running into any problems. I also insisted on shutting it down completely when I was done, at first, but I gave up on that within a couple months.

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Topic21 y/o CHRISTIAN who Killed 6 ASIAN Women said it was about SEX and NOT RACE!!!
adjl
03/18/21 3:55:19 PM
#24
Lokarin posted...
I can believe it wasn't racially motivated - would just need a democraphic breakdown of all the spas in the area to see if they hire approximately 75% asian.

Pretty much. If massage parlours' demographics in general roughly match those of his victims (with allowances for random variance, of course), I could believe it wasn't racist.

Of course, identifying it as racist or not accomplishes pretty much nothing in terms of assessing the character of a mass murderer. Dude's a dink. Doesn't really matter if he's a racist dink or just the regular kind.

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Topicbought a switch a little back and it arrives tomorrow
adjl
03/18/21 1:43:26 PM
#26
wwinterj25 posted...
You can turn it on using the infrared sensor at the bottom of the left joy-con but even then you have to turn the joy-con upside down and point at the switch.

Uhh, what? You can turn it on by holding the Home button. No need to point anything.

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TopicMy customers loved the corned beef pizza I designed.
adjl
03/18/21 1:38:34 PM
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JigsawTDC posted...
I am curious as to our culinary expert @adjl 's opinion here: is cooking sous vide for a few hours the equivalent to an actual 10-day salt brine cure?

I'd hardly call myself a culinary expert, but I wouldn't say so. I don't doubt that you can get a good product that way, nor one with a similar enough flavour to make it usable in contexts where you might use the real thing, but you're not curing the meat. By definition, curing is a form of preservation that doesn't cook the meat, instead drying it out and creating a hostile environment that prevents microbes from growing. This can be done without salt (sugar, smoke, pure nitrates/nitrites if you don't care about poisoning yourself), and sometimes it's done at the same time as cooking it (namely, smoking, but that's a specific process), but the bottom line is that, if you're cooking the meat, you're not curing it.

That said, I think that making a product that's similar to corned beef but is prepared differently to be less salty is going to be a good idea for some applications, including putting it on a pizza. He may be using the terminology wrong, since this clearly is not authentic corned beef (and, actually, you should be wary about calling it such on a menu because you may fall into food fraud territory if you do), but Sunny's approach to making this pizza sounds quite sensible.

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TopicMy customers loved the corned beef pizza I designed.
adjl
03/17/21 9:54:11 PM
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Hey guys I made pancetta by just dicing pork belly.

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Topicbought a switch a little back and it arrives tomorrow
adjl
03/17/21 7:12:00 PM
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agesboy posted...
also why does switch online cost $4 for a single month what the hell

It's $20 for a year, which is pretty definitely the best deal. You can also potentially get a year for up to 7 people for $35 if you go for a family package, but that takes some more organization and I'm not sure what limitations are on that.

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TopicIs anyone here hesitant to get the covid vaccine?
adjl
03/17/21 2:05:42 PM
#77
Krazy_Kirby posted...
long term side effects are unknown
adjl posted...
These vaccines aren't new drugs. They're cocktails of compounds that have been used for years - if not decades - in other vaccines, whose effects have been well documented. The only new element is the viral data used to induce the immune response, and because we're already very familiar with how the body handles proteins and nucleic acids in a broader sense, the only unknown is how the body will respond to this specific viral data. That's not going to be a long-term effect (which we know from centuries of immunology research), and has been studied exhaustively both by doctors studying patients infected with the disease itself and by studying trial participants.

Basically, there's no reason to suspect long-term problems, except possibly for any that are caused by the immune system's reaction to the virus (which are going to be just as serious a concern for actual infection, and likely much more so). We can reasonably expect any adverse effects to present themselves fairly shortly after the shots are given.

Oh look at that. I don't even have to type out a new response to that.

Krazy_Kirby posted...
other things take years for FDA approval, with lots of testing in human trials.

Most of those "years" are spent gathering participants and trying to secure funding for the trials. The trials themselves rarely take that long, and are almost never a matter of sitting around for a couple of years to wait and see if long-term effects appear. Here, there's no shortage of trial participants (because Covid is extremely high-profile and everyone wants to help make it go away) and no shortage of funding (because everyone wants to fix this), so the trials were able to be completed very quickly.

Quite simply, the FDA has applied all of their usual standards in approving these vaccines. The corresponding data is available if you want to seek it out. I was also skeptical that they'd be able to meet those standards on such a short time frame, but it has in fact happened, and there's therefore no reason to worry about them being rushed.

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