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PunishedOni posted...

real talk, i think chess tournaments should be segregated by childhood socioeconomic status

With sub-leagues for how much of their diet consisted of fish.

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MrMelodramatic posted...

I more or less feel like gender is a social construct we don't need,

That's more or less my attitude toward the whole thing. The whole concept of gender identity issues fundamentally relies on gender being a meaningful element of one's identity, which is really pretty pointless. I'd be kidding myself if I tried to say that people's gender doesn't shape some of my expectations for and attitudes toward them, but I also recognize that it really shouldn't, and that only happens because I've grown up in a world where that's normal.

At the end of the day, the only practical consequence my junk has is whether or not I can pee standing up, what sort of options I have when it comes to sex, and whether or not I'll ever have the option of getting pregnant (and the subsequent implications of that). None of those things are particularly identity-defining, and anything else that's attached to me being male doesn't need to be. We stop treating gender as anything meaningful, and I imagine gender identity disorders would decline pretty significantly.

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shadowsword87 posted...

We do also draw the line at performance enhancing drugs (officially at least, I'm sure there's been more than a few blind eyes).

And a few other illegal personal enhancement methods. That hasn't stopped coaches and athletes from seeing just how much enhancement they can squeeze in without crossing the line into illegality, like red cell doping vs. high-altitude training. In truth, those lines are pretty arbitrary, since there will always be the potential for certain athletes to end up with unfair advantages over others due to the opportunities they have, even just looking at something as simple as their diet when they're growing up (it will never be illegal for athletes to have never missed a meal in their life, yet lacking that privilege disadvantages many athletes).

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The_tall_midget posted...

The mods have openly stated that they mod on a whim and only need the agreement of a few to get a moderation to stick. In other words, it's not longer about enforcing rules, but simply catering to the consensus of openly biased and questionable individuals. Who needs rules and facts when some are perpetually offended?

I'm pretty sure it's about enforcing rules. You just suck at following them.

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shadowsword87 posted...

A lot of sports is about becoming the best version of yourself, so someone coming along and doing better because of something unrelated to their training, is kind of s***ty.

The thing is, that happens all the time. The fact of the matter is that, if everyone in the world went through exactly the same training as the average Olympic athlete, the existing caste of Olympic athletes would still outperform the vast majority of people because they've been handpicked for having greater innate abilities than their peers (otherwise the training resources wouldn't have been expended on them). If a 5'6" guy and a 6'6" guy grow up playing basketball together, the taller dude stands a much greater chance of being NBA-worthy despite them having the same experiences. And that's even without considering the role that wealth plays in improving the quality of training an athlete can receive, completely independent of the effort they put forth.

Yes, it's unfair to lose to somebody who's just inherently better than you, rather than somebody that put in more effort than you, but really, that's just how most of life works. Some people are just innately stronger, or more talented, or better-looking. The exact same logic used to criticize trans athletes for competing alongside their target sex can be used to criticize people that are good at music pursuing careers as musicians.

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The crux of the issue is that endogenous testosterone production (especially through puberty) gives a definite advantage to trans women over cis women, which isn't particularly fair.

The other side of that, though, is that athletes with some manner of clear genetic advantage dominating their non-advantaged competitors is nothing new. Phelps is a good example of this: The dude's got an 8-foot wingspan (might only be 7, whatever) and a mutation that causes him to produce dramatically less lactic acid than normal people (meaning he fatigues far more slowly than others). Despite this, he's allowed to compete with regular, non-mutant men. Meanwhile, Semenya naturally produces more testosterone than regular women, and she was subjected to extremely rigorous testing to prove that she wasn't secretly a man.

The fundamental idea of wanting a level playing field is reasonable, and part of that includes weeding out people with an innate biological advantage, but the long history of segregating sports by gender means that sex (and especially testosterone levels) is given special attention that other genetic advantages don't see, which strikes me as being more about preserving tradition than a genuine interest in ensuring the field is as level as possible. To truly level the field would entail removing sexual segregation and instead more directly quantifying degrees of genetic advantage and using those as the basis for a more nuanced suite of competitive classes, but people are generally just content to stick with the current way of doing things and argue about the occasional trans athlete.

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I usually don't, and thinking about it, it's not particularly common around here (Maritimes), in my experience. I saw more of it in Ontario.

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streamofthesky posted...

Why the f*** was a "plea deal" even necessary when they were on video committing the crime and there were witnesses?

If I had to guess, rich parents with a good enough lawyer to draw out the trial long enough that cutting it short was preferable to pushing for a harsher sentence.

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Blightzkrieg posted...

Devs and publishers are moving towards their own online events

I don't see a market for E3 anymore

I think it was Kotaku that said "[Blizzcon 2021] could have been an email," and really, that's not inaccurate of most of these big events, even when they are done virtually. They offer something special for the people that actually get to play upcoming game demos and whatnot, but so much of the in-person press conferences are just irrelevant fluff that provide no lasting hype or useful information. Just providing a plain text list of upcoming games with youtube links to trailers would be boring and do little to actually promote the games, but trying to make a major event out of it is just unnecessary.

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Yeah, that's on you.

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My girlfriend is. Her energy levels still haven't returned to what they were prior to developing the condition, but I can generally see a difference within a month or two of each dosage adjustment she gets. It also hasn't helped that she's got a touch of regular depression on top of it, but that's improving.

Clench281 posted...

Do me a favor and book your appointments today. Can't take more than five or ten minutes. Not treating hypothyroidism is basically choosing to live with depression.

In Lok's defense, assuming bloodwork appointments in his area are anything like they are here, booking one basically requires you to get on the phone as soon as they open to stand a chance of even making it into the lineup, and then there's still often a considerable wait. If you call much later than that, the system generally won't even put you on hold. The switch to appointment-only bloodwork due to covid has thrown a major wrench into the whole process and made it terribly inconvenient. That's not to say he shouldn't put in that effort, due to how substantially treatment will improve his life, but I can understand that being a significant hurdle for one suffering from motivation and energy issues.

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BlackScythe0 posted...

On that note is there any onion that makes your eyes tear up more than a red onion?

I don't usually find red onions that bad, though they tend to be worse than milder white/yellow ones. When white/yellow ones are bad, though, they're far worse than any red onion I've ever chopped.

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skullbone posted...

good fries > good tots > bad tots > bad fries

I agree with this assessment.

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It's okay. It's certainly not r/cableporn levels, but I made a conscious effort to keep them bundled somewhat neatly when I hooked everything up, knowing full well that it becomes an insurmountable task if I wait until after it's already hooked up to try to tidy them up.

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ChimeraBlue posted...

If you want something that has the texture of eating rice, try "riced cauliflower". It's essentially cauliflower that has been chopped to the size of rice. It's low carb and can be fried or steamed and holds up well to just about any flavor profile you're going for.

I can second this. It's very obviously not rice, given that it tastes like cauliflower and not rice, but it does offer the same texture and functions well as a base for stir fries and curries and the like.

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MeteoricBurst posted...

I wasn't aware the genre was ever taboo.

Incest in general is a taboo, step-stuff flirts with that taboo close enough for people to find exciting, but without crossing into actual incest territory and grossing people out, which is why it's become such a mainstream fetish.

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Revelation34 posted...

They shouldn't for off campus speech.

In general, I'd agree, but in this case, the off-campus speech reflected the blatantly hostile attitude with which she viewed the cheer team. Presumably, that attitude had already been coming through in her actual conduct on the team, in which case I'm inclined to accept that being the final straw that got her kicked off.

Really, I think the crux of the issue is that respecting her free speech means forcing the coach of the team to coach somebody that's been openly hostile toward them. To invoke Godwin's law, would we expect a Jewish coach to keep a kid on their team that decorated their car with swastikas and regularly participated in Neo-Nazi rallies? Such activities are protected as free speech, but to expect the coach to continue associating with such a threatening person would be quite unreasonable, and the same logic can be applied here.

It's also worth noting that this is an extracurricular activity. If she were denied education over it, yeah, it'd clearly be wrong (hence my earlier comment when I interpreted it as a suspension from school, not a suspension from the cheer team), but extracurriculars are nowhere close to being as essential a right as education is. There's even an argument to be made that they aren't even a part of the school's mandate (the word literally means "outside of school"), and are therefore not beholden to any rules that dictate how the school is able to function as a government entity.

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hockey7318 posted...

I'd just got straight up stream of consciousness and say whatever I was thinking because I doubt I'd be able to fill an hour well with a single subject without preperation.

Pretty much this. There's almost no way I could stay completely on a single topic without at least being able to prepare an outline of what points I want to hit (though if I can prepare an outline and then not bring it onstage, I'd probably be okay).

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Judgmenl posted...

She looks like she's twelve.

Not remotely. She looks like she's *trying* to look like she's twelve despite being closer to 40.

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I've got a G7 One right now. No complaints.

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Zeus posted...

That doesn't change anything, though. It's still fundamentally a violation of her civil rights.

Taken to its logical conclusion, you are suggesting that no student should ever be disciplined for misbehaving, provided that misbehaviour is only verbal. Is that really a road you want to go down?

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LinkPizza posted...

I think it's just a common topping...

Pretty much. Pepperoni is quite widely considered to be the default starting place whenever people move beyond plain cheese, unless they're specifically aiming to make a vegetarian pizza. Exceptions exist, certainly, but the majority of multi-topping pizzas include pepperoni in there somewhere.

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Zeus posted...

If it's a restriction against leaving a nation, then that's generally totalitarian. In fact, one of the hallmarks of a totalitarian nation is not letting non-criminals who want to leave the country do so. And it should be up to the nation they're entering to decide whether or not a person should be able to enter.

That said, international travel includes both leaving your current country and entering a new one, and it's generally a whole lot more practical to prevent you from leaving your original country than to turn you around after arriving at the border of your destination one, especially when looking at air travel.

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So just make the target group "people that discriminate unreasonably" and stuff them all in concentration camps to satisfy everyone else's innate desire to discriminate.

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Closest to "day-gone," but with a harder A sound and a less pronounced diphtong, like in "dang." Pretty sure that's how DotA's voice actors pronounce it as well.

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Sahuagin posted...

the whole point is that you can kneel on someone's neck, and they can die, and their death can have had nothing to do with the kneeling;

That would, however, be very unlikely, presuming the death occurred soon after the kneeling. To that end, unless it can be proven that the death had nothing to do with the kneeling (proof whose burden lies on those attempting to make such a claim), I would consider it reasonable to convict the kneeler of murder. They got the outcome they attempted to get, regardless of how direcso it only seems fair to give them the consequence

There's ample precedent for exonerating people who committed assault and whose victim died, provided death was not a reasonably predictable outcome of the assault. Punching a hemophiliac, for example, may cause fatal internal bleeding, but the person who punched them typically won't be held responsible for their death unless it can be proven that they knew better. This is not such a case, though. Kneeling on somebody's neck can kill pretty much anyone. Everyone knows about the risk of asphyxiation. Most people would also recognize the risk of cervical factures. Anyone with medical training (who would be involved in advising police protocol) would know that applying enough pressure to the carotid sinus can stop the heart. It can be very comfortably presumed that Chauvin knew better (or, if he didn't, his superiors should be on the hook for failing to ensure that the officers they're hiring have an IQ above room temperature). Without clear proof to the contrary, there's no reason to even suspect that kneeling on Floyd's neck didn't play a major role in his death.

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Hospy posted...

Jobs generally exist because the employer derives value greater than or equal to the cost of having an employee.

Hence this comment:
adjl posted...

If a job needs to exist, somebody needs to survive in order to perform it. Therefore, that job should - in a functional society - provide the wages needed to survive. If it can't, the economy is broken.

Ultimately, it's not feasible to expect an employer to pay an employee more than that employee makes for them, but if that requires many workers to work for sub-living wages, that's not a working system.

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faramir77 posted...

You realize that literally nobody in Canada calls that stuff "Canadian bacon", right? "Bacon" in Canada is the same as bacon in the USA. "Canadian bacon" is called "back bacon".

Eh, I've occasionally seen it called "Canadian bacon" even in Canada. It's still not the default for "bacon," though.

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Sahuagin posted...

it's fallacious to infer causality without sufficient justification and your feelings are not sufficient.

And the sufficient justification is common knowledge.

Furthermore, I'd actually go so far as to say that there's no practical value in concluding a direct causal link between attempted murder and the victim's immediate death. Anyone who is doing something that stands a good chance of killing a person might as well be convicted of murder for that person's death within a reasonable time frame ("reasonable time frame," of course, being open to subjective interpretation, but Floyd's death would fall comfortably within that window regardless of where the line is drawn and that wiggle room is therefore moot in this case), since they clearly are not the sort of person we want on the streets any more so than a definitive murderer would be. The pedantry inherent in the legal system demands more robust logical proof than that, but I see no reason to consider that anything more than a legal technicality that has to be worked around to effect the best outcome for everyone.

Sahuagin posted...

you specifically presented your points as sufficient justification for conviction...

When paired with common knowledge. Again, casual conversation, no real need to spell out exactly how kneeling on somebody's neck and then having them die are related because everybody understands that already.

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funkyfritter posted...

If the incident is truly over then I don't think honking is going to be productive, even if your intentions are good. Odds are they're going to interpret it negatively and focus more on being upset at you than reflecting on their own actions.

Really, one of three things will happen:

-They didn't realize they made a mistake, and honking prompts them to realize it
-They didn't realize they made a mistake, but they assume honking just means somebody else is being a douche and continue doing it wrong
-They know they were doing something wrong, but don't care, and honking just makes them angrier

Case 1 leads to an improvement in their driving ability. Case 2 is neutral. Case 3 will keep their blood pressure elevated for longer than it might otherwise be and hasten their death, removing a terrible driver from the road. Win-meh-win, at the low, low cost of pressing on the steering wheel for a second (any longer and you're just taking out your anger on your horn, which is always dumb).

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funkyfritter posted...

Honking at someone after the fact is always a dumb thing to do.

Depends how long after the fact. Alerting them to the fact that they screwed up is usually going to happen after the fact. Honking well after they've stopped doing the stupid thing, however, is generally pointless.

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Unbridled9 posted...

If you don't think someone should be able to survive doing a job, do you think we should even have the job at all?

Really, this is the crux of it. If a job needs to exist, somebody needs to survive in order to perform it. Therefore, that job should - in a functional society - provide the wages needed to survive. If it can't, the economy is broken.

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TheNobleWoodApe posted...

I just want to say, I Iove the smell of petrichor.

It is quite a delightful smell. I really like places where I can leave a window open while it rains so I get both the petrichor and the sound of the rain, without any of that pesky water damage.

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Actually, I've played pretty hard Chaotic in most PnP RPG's I've played. Predictability isn't nearly as entertaining as just doing whatever I think will work best/be funniest. I very much regret going Eldritch Knight instead of Arcane Trickster in the DnD campaign a friend ran, given how delightful an invisible, boosted Mage Hand would have been (and also because the campaign didn't last nearly long enough for Eldritch Knight to come into its own and I pretty much just sucked at both stabbing and spells).

TheNobleWoodApe posted...

But if I DM'd a game, and you rolled like a rouge or a bard...I'd just give up before the dice rolled.

I'd build a trap room, and this guy would look at the door and tell the barbarian to go kick a wall because the stone is weaker than the ward on the door.

He'd be swarmed by kobolds and giant spiders for his insolence, but he'd say the corridor would be too small to accommodate that horde...you see how this would go?

This, however, does sound like something I'd do. Screwing the party over because you got outsmarted is just being a poor sport, though.

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Should probably get a tetanus booster regardless, since you're due for one, but odds are you're fine. It isn't rusty metal itself that can give you tetanus, it's that conditions that favour rust growth also favour the growth of the tetanus bacterium, which lives naturally in soil. Any random piece of metal that happens to be rusty almost certainly won't have tetanus on it unless it's being kept particularly moist or it was buried in the ground.

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Hospy posted...

Corporate officers get paid a lot because they have an enormous impact on the future of a company. If an Intel entry level guy messes up his job, nothing significant is going to happen to the company, but if the CEO messes up like Intel's previous CEO did, the company gets hit big.

But you don't need the best people for that. You just need people that don't suck. Heck, I wouldn't actually be surprised if holding incompetent execs accountable for their failures does more to motivate good company leadership than handing out bonuses like candy does, particularly where most of these execs are so rich already that an extra $10 million is functionally meaningless (the approximate equivalent of one of us finding a $20 bill).

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That's really more metamorphosis than evolution.

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Sahuagin posted...

you feel that it's causal, so it's causal?

this isn't just wrong, you should avoid this kind of fallacious reasoning in general, for your sake and everyone's

There's pretty much always a line to be arbitrarily drawn whenever you decide that a correlation meets the criteria to infer a causal relationship. That doesn't mean one shouldn't be careful about jumping to conclusions, but to suggest that it's always fallacious to infer causality without concrete proof of such a relationship is just plain wrong.

Sahuagin posted...

you feel?

I mean, I could go into further detail on how I arrived at that position, but for the purposes of informal conversation, saying that I find the conclusion intuitive and straightforward based on readily-available information is generally good enough, particularly where such a statement carries the implication that the reader will also arrive at the same conclusion if they consider the same readily-available information that I'm working with. Sure, it's not a comprehensive argument and it doesn't prove much of anything on its own, but this is casual conversation, not a court. Not everything needs to be spelled out here.

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kukukupo posted...

Also - 'living' wage can vary greatly depending upon where you are living. Until you can sort out the differences in cost of living, you can't clearly define what living wage is.

Sure you can. You just have to define it regionally. A flat federal minimum wage is stupid. A federally mandated algorithm that determines the minimum wage for a given business based on local cost of living, however, will not only ensure that businesses in cheap areas aren't hurt by the cost of living in expensive areas, it will help to regulate cost of living because uncontrolled inflation will make it too expensive for anyone to do business there.

Zeus posted...

If a job doesn't pay a living wage and people have the skills to do other things, that job goes unfilled and then eventually it's forced to either pay a higher wage or not exist.

Meanwhile, in the real world, there are significantly fewer living-wage jobs than there are people that need wages to live. "If a job pays too little, it will have to pay more in order to compete" is a nice fantasy, but the fact of the matter is that the threat of starvation and homelessness is enough to convince people to settle for wages that allow them to afford *something*, even if it's a pathetic facsimile of a healthy life.

Zeus posted...

Controversial opinion: Nobody "deserves" anything, people should earn things.

And employers should earn labour by paying workers enough to survive, given that worker survival is an inescapable requirement of having workers perform labour. If you're driving a car somewhere and you only put in enough gas for half of that trip, do you go crying to the government to push it the rest of the way for you? Do you whine about the "entitlement" of cars when people suggest that you should put more gas in instead? Of course not, because that would be unimaginably stupid. And yet here you are, defending Walmart putting only half (if not less) of the necessary gas in each of their cars and expecting taxpayers to push them the rest of the way.

When you say "you don't deserve a living wage for this job," you are saying "I need you to do this work, but I think you should starve to death while you do it." That's a really shitty thing to say.

Zeus posted...

There's absolutely nothing wrong with having to take a roommate to cut costs and the demonization of roommates is absolutely moronic.

I will agree there (though perhaps not as strongly). As much as roommates can suck, I don't think living alone is ever going to be a realistic standard for a minimum wage. Not in an urban setting, at least, where space is limited enough that the inefficiency of having a bathroom and kitchen for each person is inevitably going to drive costs up quite a bit. My concept for the aforementioned minimum wage algorithm treats 1/3 of a 3-bedroom apartment as a reasonable standard for the sort of rent people should be expected to cover by working full-time. Somebody that wants to cut costs further can live with more people, somebody that wants fewer roommates can cut costs some other way (commute further, eat more cheaply, reduce utility bills) or treat that as something to work toward as they advance their career.

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jbomb1234 posted...

-snip-

Did you really just suggest that mining is an ethical way to become a billionaire? Really?

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Mead posted...

Im literally inside an IKEA right now.

*Removes sunglasses*

Dear God...

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I don't think it was technically in the last 12 months, since I believe it was shortly before the end of March, but I got laid off when Covid started. They brought me back on in June as business started to pick up (bakery, they transitioned into delivery/pickup after closing the storefront, then gradually brought staff back as that grew), but I still wasn't getting enough hours to disqualify me from CERB (which was partially intentional, but also they just didn't need me full time). Then I quit in August to move halfway across the country and got into my current job, which has been running full time since.

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Mead posted...

Not on the inside

We're not on the inside.

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Mead posted...

youre looking at it upside down, remember that cold settles at the bottom

That only applies to fluid media. The Earth is a solid. Checkmate, atheists.

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Clench281 posted...

Sounds like she wasn't suspended from school, just from her cheer team.

That may be the case. As often happens, ducky's a bit ambiguous, and I don't really care enough to research it further. In that case, I'd say it's completely fair: Her education hasn't been compromised, she's just not on a team with a coach who doesn't want to deal somebody who's openly hostile toward them.

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Even the Earth itself knows we're on top.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

They deserve a more than livable wage.

I'd disagree, provided "livable" is defined somewhat generously (i.e. enough to live in reasonable health and comfort, not just the bare minimum needed to subsist). It's not reasonable or practical to expect employers to fund any more luxury than is needed to keep employees mentally healthy. Anything past a reasonable minimum should be treated as a luxury that the employee can aspired and work toward if they want to improve their life.

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wolfy42 posted...

I own all that music (multiple ways lol), I had the CDs, I have them digitally etc.

But sadly I think it is still considered illegal to get the custom maps even if you own the music already.

In that case, I'd say it's less of a moral dilemma and more of a legal one. You've already compensated the artists for their work, which is really the only moral issue with piracy. That means the only remaining issue is the legality of it, and realistically, you're not going to get in trouble over it, rendering the legal issue moot.

Basically, you can just think of it as downloading the custom map for the song and then playing your own copy of the music alongside it, only somebody else was kind enough to pair them together for you already so you don't have to do any extra finagling there.

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Suspending her for badmouthing the school is pretty stupid. Suing the school over "free speech" is also pretty stupid, but suing them for compromising her education over something so trivial is fair. A one-year suspension should be reserved for things like assaulting teachers and blowing up classrooms, not saying some bad words.

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LinkPizza posted...

I mean, it's not impossible to make it so they can't save it... On certain devices. that is. Like a phone. I know that my phone won't actually take screenshots of Netflix... While an app hasn't used that feature that I know of yet, someone could make an app like that. Or whatever...

It's not impossible to forbid saving images. It is impossible to completely prevent it, though any efforts to make it more difficult will reduce the likelihood that somebody succeeds.

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