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TopicNew rule in Australia: all sexual partners must say "yes"
s0nicfan
07/08/18 12:58:20 AM
#30
DifferentialEquation posted...
The new law states, in effect, that if you want to have sex you must ask for it clearly, and then hear a verbal yes back, under new reforms announced by the New South Wales (NSW) government in Australia


I guess mute people can't consent to sex in Australia


The sign language for "yes" is nodding with your fist at shoulder level, so as long as some guy doesn't confused her threatening to punch him with "yes" everyone is good.
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TopicSo that Pop Team Epic show plays the episode twice but with different voices?
s0nicfan
07/08/18 12:50:28 AM
#3
IIRC it's broadcast once but they used different voices for different regions in Japan (or one for broadcast, one for reruns). I don't think it actually aired as the same episode back-to-back but with different voices. I could be wrong, though.
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TopicIn America, 'Religious Liberty' is the liberty to force Christianity on others.
s0nicfan
07/08/18 12:47:09 AM
#6
CiIantro posted...
MARKINGRAM22 posted...
Huh?

Republicans fighting to make it legal for state employees to deny issuing marriage licenses to gay people, etc.
Basically using their religion as a free pass to ignore laws they don't like.


Out of curiosity, do you believe we should enforce all laws, even if we don't like them?
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 6:39:30 PM
#97
Bishop9800 posted...
Kavatar posted...
The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag.


For real


It really doesn't bother you at all that this guy's life has been ruined over asking somebody for an ID at a pool Club? I already agreed that he was a douchebag, but it's a little discomforting with how casually people accept this guy just being destroyed for something he supposedly does all the time to other members as well. As part of his H O A responsibilities.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 6:37:06 PM
#94
CableZL posted...
And no, she didn't ruin his life. He did that to himself. She didn't force him to call the cops. The police were completely unnecessary in this situation.

He couldn't point to or state one posted rule or community statue that requires residents to show ID to access the pool to the police.

Hell, I doubt it's required to even give your own key card to him to verify. Simply using the key card to access the pool is probably all that's needed and giving him her address was probably a nice gesture in itself.


He didn't record the video or post it online and make the claims of racism, so no he didn't do this to himself. I'm sure that if he thought calling the cops would have resulted in his name and face being posted across multiple front pages of major media sites, losing his job, and being kicked out his volunteer position he wouldn't have asked or called.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 6:30:28 PM
#90
CableZL posted...
So your speculation is OK, but nobody else's speculation is OK. Gotcha.


I've been explicitly avoiding posting my speculation because in this instance NOBODY'S speculation is useful. However, as I said since you're not going to be convinced that your speculation is wrong based only on what we know for a fact, and given that you're not even really trying anymore by using the "account" of someone who wasn't even there as evidence of what happened, I figured "why the hell not, might as well say what I think."
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TopicWE HAVE A MELTDOWN. SJW GameDev Edition
s0nicfan
07/06/18 6:25:32 PM
#221
darkjedilink posted...
If you're going to unironically argue that women get paid '77 cents on the dollar' for the same work, you are a feminist extremist.

If you legitimately argue that you only lost the election because of sexism, you are a feminist extremist.


This is true, but this:
ultimate reaver posted...
Hillary Clinton is not an feminist extremist. She was both a political and social moderate who would occasionally pay lip service to mild feminist talking points but she was lacking on even basic things like abortion rights.

is also true. Hillary is a moderate corporatist that thought she could win by pandering to every group individually by saying whatever she thought they wanted to hear. The things she said are absolutely extremist feminist viewpoints, but I sincerely doubt she believed any of them. This is the same woman that told BLM they were wasting her time by coming to her with grievances but no plan.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 6:21:39 PM
#88
CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to:


So your argument is that while she was walking toward the pool area, another resident asked Adam Bloom to verify that she belongs in the pool area? How does that even make sense? You yourself admit "we don't know what happened before the recording," but somehow you're 100% sure that he asked to see her key card as well? Even though he never even brings up the idea of verifying the key card for almost 2.5 minutes of the video, but mentions asking for her ID and justifies asking for her ID? And still wants to see her ID after seeing the key card work?


What I think likely happened is he asked her for ID as he does periodically as part of his HOA responsibility, most often to other white people (since it sounds like this place is almost exclusively white). She gave him an address, and he said that wasn't good enough (because an address without an ID doesn't prove anything). At that point she could have just pulled our her key card and gone in, but she didn't, and I don't think he blocked the door either. I think they both got testy, she accused him of racism, and he called the cops because she was making a scene. The cops showed up, she used her key card and the cop said that was going to have to be evidence enough for him, and then she ruined his life.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 5:49:57 PM
#86
CableZL posted...
https://www.journalnow.com/news/local/man-accused-of-racism-no-longer-employed-by-sonoco-after/article_081feb9a-4f15-53be-a4ae-dd91b4e43e26.html

Bloom and the woman who shot the video both live in the Glenridge community, which is off Robinhood Road, said Karam Gulkham, a lifeguard manager for the pool.

The pool is gated. Members have cards and must scan them to get into the pool area.

About 2 p.m. Wednesday, Bloom asked a black woman, who was in the pool area, for identification, Gulkham said.

Theres a keycard to the door to get into the pool, Gulkham said. Apparently it was not enough for him. I dont know why he felt it wasnt enough.


Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to:
Gulkham, who was not at the pool on Wednesday, said all lifeguards were apprised of the incident via a group message. He said officers resolved the situation peacefully, but he was left wondering why it occurred.

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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 5:44:30 PM
#83
So are you fine with how all this falls out, cable? Do you think justice has been done? I'm clearly not going to convince you that this guy was just doing what he does all the time as part of his HOA job, and you're clearly unconvinced that she refused to provide him anything other than an address until the cops showed up, so I'm done fighting that battle. Do you believe he deserves to lose his job and have his full name and picture plastered across multiple major news agencies as a racist over asking for an ID?
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 5:41:47 PM
#81
CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
The fact that he says that at 3:13 doesn't make the things said earlier not happen.


Exactly. She stated she gave him her address, and obviously used her key card to enter the pool area. That's all that's necessary here. Again, calling the police on her is overzealous at minimum. He asked for her ID and the first time he even mentions asking her to verify that her key card works is after the police ask for it.

Even after he sees that her key card works, he still wanted to see her ID. He couldn't point to or state one community bylaw that requires photo ID to access the pool area.


Not obvious at all. At no point in any of their dialogue did she even imply she did that. He would have had to forcibly block her from the gate, which would have been a much bigger deal. The fact that she used her ID after he showed up is irrelevant to whether she refused to use it prior to the cop showing up.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 5:37:18 PM
#79
CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
EDIT: and when the cop uses the card, the guy says "allright. perfect"


LOL.

2:30: She agrees to give the pool card to the police so he can test it
2:53: Cop uses the key card and sees that it works
3:13: "A form of ID would be helpful to validate."


The fact that he says that at 3:13 doesn't make the things said earlier not happen. The reality here is the guy as part of a HOA and at the request of another pool person asked for her ID. She refused to give him any form of identification, including the key card, so he called the cops. She recorded everything from when the cop shows up, and this guy is now plastered all over mainstream media and fired not only from the HOA, but according to the BBC from his actual job. The dude's life has now been irreparably wrecked, all because he asked for some identification. That's insane.

CableZL posted...
If simply using the key card to open the door was "perfect," then she never would have needed to show ID in the first place. Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the door, he still wanted to see her ID.

She stated she gave him her address and he wasn't satisfied with that. All he had to do at that point was see that the key card worked, but he wanted to see her ID and she didn't want to show it to him.


We DON'T KNOW what happened before she started recording, but there's no reason to believe he didn't also ask to see her key card and she refused, because that's what their actual dialogue says. An address isn't proof of membership, which is all he wanted.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 5:31:20 PM
#73
CableZL posted...
Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the pool, he still said "Showing ID would be nice," lol. She gave him her address and used the key card to enter the pool, but he wasn't satisfied with that.


All we know for a fact, going from their exact words is that she wasn't okay with showing the guy her key card. Everything else you're suggesting is speculation.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 5:26:21 PM
#71
CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him.


She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place.


re-watch the video. Starting from the 2:20 minute mark.


The whole video he claimed he asked for her ID, not her key card. The dude only asked to see the key card when the police asked for it. She refused to show her ID and obviously used her key card to access the pool. She stated at the beginning of the video that she even gave him his address. Then he asked to see her ID, which she rightfully refused.


Officer: "Well you have a key card to get into the pool?"
Woman: "Yes I do"
Adam: "Okay, then just show access to the pool"
Officer: "Do you have your key card"?
Woman: "I do have my key card"
Officer: "Would you mind if I saw your key card?"
Woman: "I don't mind showing it to YOU (emphasis on the you is hers, not mine), but its not a requirement to use the pool like he was requesting"

Like, this isn't my interpretation of what happened. These are the literal words from the video.

EDIT: and when the cop uses the card, the guy says "allright. perfect"

Since we don't have video from before she started recording, we don't know exactly what was said, but it's clear from the audio that he asked for the key card at some point and she refused that, too.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 5:18:42 PM
#67
CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him.


She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place.


re-watch the video. Starting from the 2:20 minute mark.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 5:17:29 PM
#66
Kavatar posted...
The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag.


Oh, he's 100% a douche bag. I just don't think this is a case of racial profiling.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 5:16:14 PM
#62
CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122

A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association.

The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool.


And the only thing necessary in this situation was:

1) Ask her if she was a member of the community
- Answer: Yes
2) Ask if she has the key card
- Answer: Yes

Asking for ID and calling the police is overzealous at minimum.


He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. When the cops asks if he can see it, she says HE can, at least implying that this guy did exactly what you said and she got indignant and refused.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 5:14:09 PM
#59
More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122

A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association.

The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool.

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TopicWhy are Michael Bay films so American?
s0nicfan
07/06/18 4:53:32 PM
#2
Because the US military partially funds his movies:
https://www.wired.com/2008/12/pentagon-holl-1/
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TopicStar Wars Ep IX has cast it's new strong female character: Kerri Russell
s0nicfan
07/06/18 4:38:52 PM
#29
hockeybub89 posted...
I don't know why people were so butthurt by Holdo outside of being a bitch with poor ideas on how to teach someone a lesson. OMG she was was a woman in charge while having unnatural hair color in a space monk movie! Feminism!


That's the reason, though....
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 3:01:27 PM
#44
eston posted...
s0nicfan posted...
After watching the video, the guy says he asks for ID a couple of times a week. It sounds like she just absolutely refused, and ALSO refused to show him her pool ID, and he called the cops. If the guy is actually telling the truth and this is just a thing he does randomly to check up on people, then this is probably not nearly as racist (or racist at all) as this article would imply.

If she's the only black woman in the pool club as she claims, and the guy does this a few times a week, then he mostly asks white people for ID.

It's entirely possible this guy was being racist, but it's also possible he was just doing his job.

It isn't his job though. It isn't anyone's job. No one in that neighborhood is required to show ID to use the pool, and there is a card reader that verifies the keycard before letting them in because that is literally the entire purpose of the card reader. This is just some entitled asshole.


Yea I agree with that.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:48:28 PM
#38
CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
After watching the video, the guy says he asks for ID a couple of times a week. It sounds like she just absolutely refused, and ALSO refused to show him her pool ID, and he called the cops. If the guy is actually telling the truth and this is just a thing he does randomly to check up on people, then this is probably not nearly as racist (or racist at all) as this article would imply.

If she's the only black woman in the pool club as she claims, and the guy does this a few times a week, then he mostly asks white people for ID.

It's entirely possible this guy was being racist, but it's also possible he was just doing his job.


Asking for ID isn't part of the job if ID isn't required to enter the pool.


But if he does it a few times a week and has been doing it for his career at a mostly white pool club, then it also isn't racist.
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TopicNC man calls cops on a woman for refusing to show ID to enter the pool
s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:46:27 PM
#36
After watching the video, the guy says he asks for ID a couple of times a week. It sounds like she just absolutely refused, and ALSO refused to show him her pool ID, and he called the cops. If the guy is actually telling the truth and this is just a thing he does randomly to check up on people, then this is probably not nearly as racist (or racist at all) as this article would imply.

If she's the only black woman in the pool club as she claims, and the guy does this a few times a week, then he mostly asks white people for ID.

It's entirely possible this guy was being racist, but it's also possible he was just doing his job.
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TopicWE HAVE A MELTDOWN. SJW GameDev Edition
s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:32:44 PM
#202
Tyranthraxus posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
s0nicfan posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Tmk posted...
Of course they lie about how Gamergate started now. Not that long ago I was explaining to someone just that and they just boldly said no, none of that is true, there was no coordinated wave of attack articles, no shadowbanning, no attempt to cover anything up or deflect, in their mind Gamergate just spontaneously formed when a bunch of random guys, sitting around were like "Golly, I sure like harassing women" and then other men gasped, "Me too! Let's harass women together" and then all shook hands while nodding and Gamergate was formed.

The only reason I even heard about all that shit was because they tried to suppress it.


Gamergate definitly had tons of toxic guys latch onto it to be shitty to girls. To deny that is just to be in huge denial


Oh there were absolutely leeches that hooked onto the movement when it started, but said leeches were also used to discredit the entire movement by people threatened by the movement's original purpose.


The leeches, however, eventually drove out people who were legitimately concerned and now it's mostly leeches and a few mosquitoes.


That's probably true since the "movement" is years old at this point and most people have moved on. My original reply was addressing the start of Gamergate, though, and the fact that not everyone who used the label was just out to troll people on twitter.

Sure. Just like incel was originally a word originating from a study about FTLs and was later adopted and rebranded by the puahate movement.

People have to accept that some labels are just lost causes and move on. Find a different identity that isn't Mudd and do what you want to do and not what everyone else in your clique is doing.


That would be fine if revisionist history weren't a thing. People should continue to defend GG as long as there are people are out there going "GG was only ever about toxic masculinity" because that completely discredits all the good work that was done in the first couple of years. It also allows that group to find people who previously associated with GG and make false accusations "Oh, I see you're a member of a hate group" in order to attack them.
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TopicWE HAVE A MELTDOWN. SJW GameDev Edition
s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:24:51 PM
#198
Tyranthraxus posted...
s0nicfan posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Tmk posted...
Of course they lie about how Gamergate started now. Not that long ago I was explaining to someone just that and they just boldly said no, none of that is true, there was no coordinated wave of attack articles, no shadowbanning, no attempt to cover anything up or deflect, in their mind Gamergate just spontaneously formed when a bunch of random guys, sitting around were like "Golly, I sure like harassing women" and then other men gasped, "Me too! Let's harass women together" and then all shook hands while nodding and Gamergate was formed.

The only reason I even heard about all that shit was because they tried to suppress it.


Gamergate definitly had tons of toxic guys latch onto it to be shitty to girls. To deny that is just to be in huge denial


Oh there were absolutely leeches that hooked onto the movement when it started, but said leeches were also used to discredit the entire movement by people threatened by the movement's original purpose.


The leeches, however, eventually drove out people who were legitimately concerned and now it's mostly leeches and a few mosquitoes.


That's probably true since the "movement" is years old at this point and most people have moved on. My original reply was addressing the start of Gamergate, though, and the fact that not everyone who used the label was just out to troll people on twitter.
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TopicAmerica's love of SUVs is killing pedestrians
s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:22:47 PM
#41
HylianFox posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...
Monolith1676 posted...
Fucking soccer moms are to blame for this.

Yup.

Women love SUVs for several reasons:

1. They think they are safer (this is false, they are in fact more dangerous than sedans)

2. They like that they are higher off the ground, because women are manlets and being so high off the ground is a novelty for them

3. They enjoy the extra space so they can fit all of their shopping bags and crotch spawn

4. SUVs are bigger, which means they are an extremely conspicuous form of consumption, EVERYONE will notice Carol's new white Chevy Equinox

5. SUVs are associated with luxury. Men are primarily concerned with functionality and performance because they are hunters, women care about having a miniature house on wheels because they are gatherers that live in the nest and collect colorful berries. When a dumb man has money to blow he buys a new bitchin V8 Dodge Charger, when a dumb woman has money to blow she throws it all away on some stupid Lexus luxury vehicle

Women are the biggest consumers and their economic influence is growing, it's no wonder the big stupid SUV market is red hot these days.

CANYONERO!!!


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TopicTrump: "They say Putin is KGB... Putin is fine. He's fine."
s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:08:44 PM
#50
hockeybub89 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Diplomacy is generally preferable to isolation and escalation of tensions. I thought that was the message the left has generally pursued with regard to foreign policy.

This is why outgoing people make friends with literally every human being they see. It's hypocritical to call yourself friendly and extroverted and not hang out with every creep, idiot, racist, etc that you see. I bet you blamed the Parkland kids for not befriending the budding sociopath that disturbed everyone he interacted with.


Making friends isn't the same as international diplomacy, but you get bonus brownie points to trying to somehow change the topic to school shootings because you don't have anything more of value to say on the topic.
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TopicWE HAVE A MELTDOWN. SJW GameDev Edition
s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:07:18 PM
#189
CruelBuffalo posted...
Tmk posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Gamergate definitly had tons of toxic guys latch onto it to be shitty to girls. To deny that is just to be in huge denial

Sort of like how feminism has an army of toxic men and women latch on to it just to be toxic shitbags with an army at their beck and call, an outlet for their hatred, and a large supply of rubes to swindle.


Yeah, toxic people exist. Lets look at the largest gamergate Reddit group

Reddit.com/r/KotakuInAction

Soooo its still about ethics in gaming journalism?


http://www.deepfreeze.it/
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TopicTrump: "They say Putin is KGB... Putin is fine. He's fine."
s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:04:55 PM
#45
UnfairRepresent posted...
E32005 posted...
Doom_Art posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
its funny how he commonly attacks every other leader....except this one...

I've never gotten a straight answer from his supporters on this

Why is it that Trump wavers on everything except his support of Russia and Putin?

Dude they dont know. They bashed obama when he tried to work with him

I really really really really want honest conservatives to admit that if Obama said a fraction, even 12% of the pro Russia shit Trump says, they would have lost their shit and possibly been riots.


I voted for Obama twice and would have been fine with him acting this way towards Russia. You really need to stop thinking that every conservative on CE lives entirely by double standard, that they're the only ones who act that way, and that everyone's default position on Russia should be "they're like a bond villain that we need to crush".
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TopicAmerica's love of SUVs is killing pedestrians
s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:01:10 PM
#30
hockeybub89 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Redesigning car hoods only reduces the likelihood of people dying when hit... but they're still being hit, and they're still dying (just at a reduced rate).

And this is a problem, how? Why do people think "You aren't permanently erasing the problem for all eternity, so what's the point" are arguments against solutions?

Though you actually could get pretty close to that by making an aggressive push towards self-driving cars instead of sucking up as much money as possible on SUVs before fossil fuels dry up and the environment dies.


"Us people" think that because it's an extremely common psychological tactic used to change the argument so the responsible parties can avoid dealing with their faults. For example, the big push for using reusable bags at the shopping market made the environment a "personal responsibility" focus when a 1% decrease in Wal-Mart's pollution profile would have the same effect as the entire country foregoing plastic bags. Michelle Obama's health push started as a way to get kids eating less garbage, and junk food companies came in to "help" and turned it into getting out to exercise more. Sugar is the only item on nutrition labels without a % daily value because they were able to change the conversation to be about fat. In all these examples, people felt "I did something good" and moved on, completely forgetting that their original push was never addressed.

People aren't very good at multitasking as a collective, so the more you focus on these low hanging fruits, the more you're guaranteeing that the root problem never gets addressed. Shoot for the moon and try to take on the big problem, rather than change some small easy thing that makes you feel good and minimally changes things.
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TopicWE HAVE A MELTDOWN. SJW GameDev Edition
s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:55:54 PM
#184
CruelBuffalo posted...
Tmk posted...
Of course they lie about how Gamergate started now. Not that long ago I was explaining to someone just that and they just boldly said no, none of that is true, there was no coordinated wave of attack articles, no shadowbanning, no attempt to cover anything up or deflect, in their mind Gamergate just spontaneously formed when a bunch of random guys, sitting around were like "Golly, I sure like harassing women" and then other men gasped, "Me too! Let's harass women together" and then all shook hands while nodding and Gamergate was formed.

The only reason I even heard about all that shit was because they tried to suppress it.


Gamergate definitly had tons of toxic guys latch onto it to be shitty to girls. To deny that is just to be in huge denial


Oh there were absolutely leeches that hooked onto the movement when it started, but said leeches were also used to discredit the entire movement by people threatened by the movement's original purpose.
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TopicAmerica's love of SUVs is killing pedestrians
s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:52:18 PM
#25
hockeybub89 posted...
What is your solution that doesn't involve touching cars? Making it illegal to run people over?


Look at what's causing people to hit other people and work towards reducing that. Maybe cell phone use penalties aren't high enough. Maybe we need louder crossing signals or more obvious crosswalks. I think generally you solve a problem by looking at the root cause. Every collision prevented is a person guaranteed not to die. Redesigning car hoods only reduces the likelihood of people dying when hit... but they're still being hit, and they're still dying (just at a reduced rate).

EDIT:
Balrog0 posted...
The way that you reduce the number of pedestrians being hit requires redesigning streets and laws regulating the streets

Is that really easier than changing how we design cars?

Those are both heavy lifts


Oh no, it's certainly harder. I didn't mean to imply that was the easier solution if that's how you read it. But we should be solving the right problems where possible, not tangential ones born from the root problem in the first place.
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TopicTrump: "They say Putin is KGB... Putin is fine. He's fine."
s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:50:01 PM
#34
hockeybub89 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
s0nicfan posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Do leftists understand that it's better to be diplomatic and tactful than to go to war with Russia?


why does Russia get diplomacy and tact and allies like Canada and the EU get mocked and disrespected?

@s0nicfan


For the same reason you may sarcastically make fun of a friend but not a stranger you just met. Trump thinks he can get more out of the EU, and his hard stance may piss them off but they're not going to actually stop being our allies. It's a crass, short-to-medium-term tactic, but it seems to be working. Germany increased their NATO contributions, for example. That same attitude doesn't work with someone willing to actually become an enemy, so you have to be more tactful.

jfc


I didn't say it was nice. I just said it was effective. And objectively it has been. Tariffs aside (which are dumb), what have any of our allies actually done in response to Trump's bluster that has negatively affected us on the global stage? Point to a single concrete measure.

We could not interact with these countries at all and then we definitely would not have to worry about saying the wrong thing to them. Better than sucking the dick of every shitty country out of fear and then claiming it is a show of strength.


Diplomacy is generally preferable to isolation and escalation of tensions. I thought that was the message the left has generally pursued with regard to foreign policy.
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TopicAmerica's love of SUVs is killing pedestrians
s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:48:45 PM
#21
Antifar posted...
s0nicfan posted...
So why is it the car's fault and not the driver's that pedestrians are being hit?

The drivers are an independent variable here; all things considered an SUV is more likely to kill a pedestrian it hits than a sedan. And not just slightly:

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration made the connection in 2015 that SUVs were deadlier for pedestrians than cars, referenced on page 90 of a 195-page report. That report, citing 12 independent studies of injury data, said pedestrians are two to three times more likely to suffer a fatality when struck by an SUV or pickup than when struck by a passenger car.


Sure, but I feel like "we should make it so people hit by cars don't die as often" is best solved by making fewer people hit pedestrians and not by redesigning cars. This would be like dealing with too many people burning their tongues on hot coffee by pushing Keurig to reduce the temperate of their k-cup brews. It feels like a roundabout solution.
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TopicTrump: "They say Putin is KGB... Putin is fine. He's fine."
s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:46:29 PM
#32
TheVipaGTS posted...
s0nicfan posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Do leftists understand that it's better to be diplomatic and tactful than to go to war with Russia?


why does Russia get diplomacy and tact and allies like Canada and the EU get mocked and disrespected?

@s0nicfan


For the same reason you may sarcastically make fun of a friend but not a stranger you just met. Trump thinks he can get more out of the EU, and his hard stance may piss them off but they're not going to actually stop being our allies. It's a crass, short-to-medium-term tactic, but it seems to be working. Germany increased their NATO contributions, for example. That same attitude doesn't work with someone willing to actually become an enemy, so you have to be more tactful.

jfc


I didn't say it was nice. I just said it was effective. And objectively it has been. Tariffs aside (which are dumb), what have any of our allies actually done in response to Trump's bluster that has negatively affected us on the global stage? Point to a single concrete measure.
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TopicAmerica's love of SUVs is killing pedestrians
s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:43:45 PM
#9
So why is it the car's fault and not the driver's that pedestrians are being hit?
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TopicEU takes a first steps to censor the internet
s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:40:56 PM
#80
Monolith1676 posted...
JE19426 posted...
It's been voted down by the European Parliment.

https://www.politico.eu/article/european-parliament-votes-to-block-copyright-reform/


It hasn't been voted down entirely. It has merely been postponed so they can wait out the protests.


Fixed that for you.
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TopicLondon Mayor approves Giant Baby Trump balloon to fly over London on Trump visit
s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:40:24 PM
#151
Phantom_Nook posted...
and now he's too much of a pussy to go to London.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-britain-plans/trump-to-avoid-london-protests-with-tour-of-english-country-homes-idUSKBN1JW293?il=0


https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-44741671

BBC diplomatic correspondent Robbins said while the government realises it is a controversial trip, President Trump is "fully entitled" to be welcomed into the UK in this way.

The government also stressed that previous presidents have met prime ministers at Chequers rather than at No 10, including Richard Nixon and both the Bushes.

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TopicTrump: "They say Putin is KGB... Putin is fine. He's fine."
s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:38:15 PM
#29
A_Good_Boy posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
Do leftists understand that it's better to be diplomatic and tactful than to go to war with Russia?


why does Russia get diplomacy and tact and allies like Canada and the EU get mocked and disrespected?

@s0nicfan


For the same reason you may sarcastically make fun of a friend but not a stranger you just met. Trump thinks he can get more out of the EU, and his hard stance may piss them off but they're not going to actually stop being our allies. It's a crass, short-to-medium-term tactic, but it seems to be working. Germany increased their NATO contributions, for example. That same attitude doesn't work with someone willing to actually become an enemy, so you have to be more tactful.
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TopicChina hits retaliation button, launching tariffs as trade war with US starts
s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:14:22 PM
#48
Trump needs to be hard on China, but I think he's going after the wrong target. His energies should be focused on the south china sea where China's REAL long-term game plan is. I'm also fine with him going super hard on IP theft, since China has effectively stolen trillions of dollars of IP and decades of research and used that to effectively cheat their way into being competitive.
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TopicLondon Mayor approves Giant Baby Trump balloon to fly over London on Trump visit
s0nicfan
07/06/18 12:49:31 PM
#141
TheRealDill2000 posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Like it's super fucking funny that the same type of people who are SUPER UPSET at this were totally okay with shit like this:


Why would you think that's the case? I think Obama was a lousy president, but that video had some seriously racist vibes. That isn't something I condone.


I would imagine the vast majority of people don't condone burning effigies of our black president, but you don't get to play the "you're just as bad" card unless you claim the people you disagree with do the same thing.
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TopicWE HAVE A MELTDOWN. SJW GameDev Edition
s0nicfan
07/06/18 12:37:41 PM
#178
Esrac posted...
Rimmer_Dall posted...
GOATTHlEF posted...
Wait what? What did she do to pathfinder reshiram

Remember back around 5 years ago or so when Paizo products started to get infested with SJW bullshit and started sucking? That was her. She got fired over it.

Also, the twitter SJW crowd has finally gotten wind of this and are going nuts.

https://twitter.com/SainguinLibras/status/1015129904256602112
http://archive.fo/wGB7u
http://archive.fo/kBSQ9
http://archive.fo/GcHtv
http://archive.fo/U62fq
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1015117383944454144


It's weird to me that they want to blame it on a harassment campaign. As if her shitty attitude had no role in this debacle.

It's unfortunate that she seems to have been fired, but being openly hostile to the community playerbase is not a good look.


You've basically described how GamerGate came about. A bunch of people decided neoptism was a problem, a massive wave of articles tried to shift the blame to "harassment" and both sides doubled down.
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TopicHiker Finds Odd 'Elmo Tree'
s0nicfan
07/05/18 7:04:21 PM
#4
Sounds like something out of True Detective (season 1)
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TopicExplain to me how TLJ undermines Star Wars SO much. *spoilers*
s0nicfan
07/05/18 6:53:14 PM
#37
Poe's attack at the start only failed because a freak accident caused one bomber to blow up basically all the other bombers because they were sent in such a tight formation. If they were spread out even a little bit they would have only lost a couple and Poe's gamble would have been seen as a major victory. Plot contrivance was required to make him look like an idiot.
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TopicFunny how Trump really doesn't back up that support the vet stuff he yells about
s0nicfan
07/05/18 6:36:11 PM
#4
To become citizens, the service members need an honorable service designation, which can come after even just a few days at boot camp. But the recently discharged service members have had their basic training delayed, so they cant be naturalized.


So the 40 people the AP has identified are recruits that haven't even gone through basic training yet, and the Army is claiming they're security risks due to family abroad. The ones the AP interviewed were from Pakistan and Iran. This isn't veterans, reservists, or even active duty soldiers.

This isn't great, but it also isn't nearly as bad as the title suggests.
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