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COVxy posted...

"It's about ethics in gaming journalism you fucking SJW feminazis!"

The woman, clearly in the wrong, has run to Polygon which has completely taken her side and is actively spreading false information that will hurt not only him, but ArenaNet itself. You don't see an ethical problem with that? Are you really playing that dumb to how it can be both sometimes?
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glitteringfairy posted...

Cause they are trolls.

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mario2000 posted...

if anything this topic has handily put that final nail in the "CE isn't an altrightist /pol/-lite hellhole" coffin

Then go back to Ghazi if you're so completely deluded that you think a fairly centrist place like CE is an "altright hellhole".
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legendary_zell posted...

Gamergate was undeniably an anti-SJW and partially anti-woman/minority political identity movement by a certain class of internet citizens, not confined to gamers. That's the core of the movement and its lifeblood, very few people on any side care about ethics in video game journalism. Gamergate was simply part of the internet version of the culture wars. It is and always has been primarily political and cultural and that's obvious

The poor practices or lies of journalists are simply something to point to to provide cover for the fact that the movement was simply a backlash to increasing progressive influence in once insular mediums like games and comics that were shaped by and catered to young white dudes.

That's only if you completely ignore the list of material improvements GG counted as "victories" in terms of ethics, AND he fact that the society of professional journalists agreed with every point made about the ethical issues brought up. To flip your point around, the poor practices and behavior of a few channers using the GG name was simply something to point to provide cover for the fact that the movement was actually gaining efficacy in calling out bad journalistic practices.

http://whatculture.com/gaming/10-biggest-victories-gamergate-achieved-far

Even sites like the Guardian, while actively shitting on GG, admit early on that GG was having real, effective and positive impact:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jan/11/gamergate-a-brief-history-of-a-computer-age-war

Kotakus US editor Stephen Totilo wrote that Gamergate has been, if nothing else, a good warning to all of us about the pitfalls of cliquishness in the indie dev scene. While Gamergate had sporadic victories Intel pulled ads from a site called Gamasutra after a letter-writing campaign its main legacy seems to have been to entrench existing divisions.

EDIT:
And let's not forget that an entire site was created to explicitly catalogue these behaviors
http://deepfreeze.it/
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mario2000 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

mario2000 posted...

reminder that anita sarkeesian got sent literal death threats for merely announcing her plan to release a series of youtube videos analyzing video games from a feminist perspective

this was before anybody knew about her so the fact that said videos turned out to be lazy low-effort snoozefests is irrelevant

Reminder that Brianna Wu literally got caught logging into alternate accounts on Steam to write hateful things on her own game so that she could claim hateful things were being written about her and her game.

yes that was a thing that happened

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mario2000 posted...

reminder that anita sarkeesian got sent literal death threats for merely announcing her plan to release a series of youtube videos analyzing video games from a feminist perspective

this was before anybody knew about her so the fact that said videos turned out to be lazy low-effort snoozefests is irrelevant

Reminder that Brianna Wu literally got caught logging into alternate accounts on Steam to write hateful things on her own game so that she could claim hateful things were being written about her and her game.
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CyricZ posted...

FaultyGourry posted...

that purported to be for the gaming community insults, lies to and lies about said community

The fallacy here is assuming that the articles were directed against the entire community and not the toxic elements of it.

Not a single article said "You. Yes, you. Are the problem with gaming." Toxic people just took it personal because the toxic qualities resonated with them, and boy did they not like being called out.

That's just confirmation bias. If you call a group of people assholes, and they respond with the resounding fuck you, you don't then get to then claim that's evidence that all of those people are in fact assholes. What you're basically arguing, is that when they said that gamers are shit people, that anyone who disagreed must have been a shit person, because any good and moral and upstanding person would have just immediately agreed and stopped calling themself a gamer. it leaves no room for disagreement. It completely closes the door on the possibility that maybe some of those articles were wrong.
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Vol2tex posted...

How much do you spend?

A few bucks? Just buy them off amazon or monoprice
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Veggeta X posted...

Getting mad over gamergate was stupid as fuck. Imagine getting mad at some no name game reviewer giving a good review to a game because the woman who made the game had sex with the reviewer.

That's not what started GamerGate. This is (all posted on the same day):

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Vol2tex posted...

blablablax17 posted...

Micro USB cables are so cheap, and literally everywhere.
I don't see how this is a problem.

$15 is cheap? And I don't want to stop at the store and buy a new one every few weeks, I want something reliable that lasts for months or years.

Is this a joke post? You're literally spending $15 on charging cables?
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"Caving to SJWs" isn't having a gay option. It's doing things like changing the sexuality of established characters in sequels to add diversity, or including a sexuality that doesn't make sense because of the world (like a pre-op "trans" character in a game where there's magic to literally just change your sex), or having a character break the 4th wall to make a statement about modern politics through poorly written dialogue like it was a commercial in The Truman Show.

I'm sure CD Projekt knows how to do it right, so I doubt anyone will be "turning on them"
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Of course it's shattered. She's probably got serious calcium deficiency.
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Balrog0 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

Like... the scope and scale are just so radically different that you almost can't compare the two.

I agree with this, though, and there are other differences, too.

I'm just saying that a general defense of respectability politics rings hollow to me unless you can square this circle -- for example, I can imagine the person who inspired this thread saying that it's different because people protesting outside planned parenthood aren't just opposing people who support abortions but the people who actually get them

but that would just change the terms of when politics of respectability are appropriate, and that is almost entirely a circular argument from what I can tell

anyway I am literally just typing my thoughts

Oh sure, I agree with that. It's one of the reasons why I think we need to make debate a mandatory class in high school. People needs to learn how to engage with ideas and defend their own in meaningful ways, and this complete lack of ability is IMO in part why everything is now a moral "I'm right and you're wrong" issue. When you can't actually defend your own claims... just say the other person is a bad person.
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I'm not sure there are good analogues, though. The right has historically been awful at organized protests. A few old people will stand around with signs, but I honestly can't think of an example of the right going quite as HAM as the left has in the last few years with regards to actual harassment of normal people. Like... the scope and scale are just so radically different that you almost can't compare the two.
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mistalightbulb posted...

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Solar_Crimson posted...

s0nicfan posted...

I don't think his policy on repealing LGBT support in the military is a good one (although I believe they should be restricted to non-combat roles)

Why does it matter?

Team cohesion, primarily. As long as you can maintain that, it's fine, but to be totally honest I'll upset a thousand lesbians who want to fight if it means our soldiers have one fewer casualty when they actually go into combat.

With regard to trans people specifically, supply lines are a bitch. Assuming a trans person can pass the physical requirements, there's still the issue of transporting meds if they're post-op, and that's less water, batteries, and ammo brought in exchange.

I assume youd be against anyone who needs medication every day being on the front line.

Yes, for the same reasons. The people on the front lines need to be in absolute peak performance to reduce loss of life. Being on daily meds is like the opposite of that.
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The boss makes a dollar when I make a dime.
That's why I poop on company time.
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Afro Samurai isn't a robot, so Jack's gonna lose.
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I don't necessarily disagree with you, but your original point about being rude to political opponents has nothing to do with people protesting outside of planned parenthood, since those offices and the people that work in them aren't politicians.

EDIT: A better example might be people protesting outside a planned parenthood that doesn't do abortions versus people protesting outside of ICE offices that aren't on the border.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

s0nicfan posted...

I don't think his policy on repealing LGBT support in the military is a good one (although I believe they should be restricted to non-combat roles)

Why does it matter?

Team cohesion, primarily. As long as you can maintain that, it's fine, but to be totally honest I'll upset a thousand lesbians who want to fight if it means our soldiers have one fewer casualty when they actually go into combat.

With regard to trans people specifically, supply lines are a bitch. Assuming a trans person can pass the physical requirements, there's still the issue of transporting meds if they're post-op, and that's less water, batteries, and ammo brought in exchange.
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Zero.
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Because it's designed from the ground up to remind people of FF6.
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God is a live service developed by a combination of EA, Activision, and Ubisoft. There are no sequels, only microtransactions.
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In case that doesn't work, here's the beginning of Up:

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That's not tumblr. That's just children on social media.
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Muffinz0rz posted...

s0nicfan posted...

I'm sure it'll be a preorder bonus for the Gamestop exclusive "deep state edition" of BLOPS 4 or something for $300 that comes with a functioning quadcopter.

Plus an art book

That's just screenshots from cutscenes with text overlays (I think Gears of War pulled that crap?)
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Poland is always the first to go.
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They can be. I did a Mediterranean cruise that gave me the opportunity to visit places I'd never have gone while still having a safe place to return to at the end of the day, and I made sure to have shore excursions at every port so I was constantly out and about. The trick is to treat cruises like mobile hotels and not the vacation itself.
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I give all my old games to Goodwill and then write them off my taxes at the value Gamestop would try to re-sell it (since that's fair market). I find its a better ROI than selling used, even at a 70% bonus.
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Critics at the start of the 21st century were still gamers.
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I'm sure it'll be a preorder bonus for the Gamestop exclusive "deep state edition" of BLOPS 4 or something for $300 that comes with a functioning quadcopter.
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Scotty_Rogers posted...

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DoomSwell posted...

Would it hurt Super to be original for once?

Super was plenty original, often at the cost of consistency.

LOL no it wasn't. The whole thing was a glorified fanfiction

Explain to me how being fanfiction means it can't be original. The fights were more creative, the number of new characters with unique gimmicks was way up, and most of the cast got real showings... all when compared to the base show. Just because Android 17 was the writer's waifu doesn't mean everything surrounding it was bad.
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The only good deals are on Amazon products that I don't want anyway.
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DoomSwell posted...

Would it hurt Super to be original for once?

Super was plenty original, often at the cost of consistency.
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iHuman posted...

s0nicfan posted...

although I support them for China

why

The scope and scale of their IP theft over the last few decades has had and will continue to have significant material impact on the US. Both in terms of commercial and defense. I think it's one of the few instances where we as a nation need to actually take an economic hit for long-term security.
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1. He needs to stop posting his thoughts directly to twitter without checking with his own cabinet on whether they're in agreement
2. DeVos is a shit pick for Sec of Education
3. Pence is a horrible human being and a bad VP pick
4. I don't think his policy on repealing LGBT support in the military is a good one (although I believe they should be restricted to non-combat roles)
5. His tariffs against most of EU are misguided, although I support them for China
6. He should have stayed in the paris climate agreement, since it's basically no hard commitment for positive PR
7. I disagree with his opinion on climate change in general
8. His obsession with crowd size is laughable
9. He shouldn't have given Alex Jones the time of day, let alone appeared on his show
10. Ajit Pai was a terrible pick for FCC
11. Trump's attempt to deflect on gun violence using violent video games was bad and he should feel bad
12. In general, I support stronger gun control and hoped he would be above NRA threats as "the man with no ties to lobbyists"
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Wolf's Rain
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Bold going for the power bomb right out of the gate. I'd say he's earned a Choco Taco.
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As long as its within the framework of extended relationships, sure, why not? Where it gets dangerous is if you put emotional abuse on the same tier as physical abuse among total strangers.
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The Ayatollah C posted...

I don't get why Americans don't mind their biggest govt expenditure to be on the military. Seems totally backward.

And Americans spend about as much per head via taxation on govt healthcare as many countries including the UK where it's free. It's just that it's corrupt as fuck and most of it goes to big pharma and insurance companies.

In short, the US could easily provide free healthcare to everyone, but it's a morally bankrupt strange place.

Actually the biggest expendature is entitlements at just over 50%. IIRC Military expenditures are around 35%
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If the moon was made of cheese... would you eat it?

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ROBANN_88 posted...

i don't understand.
why?

The second half of the resolution that calls of policymakers to "restrict the promotion of food products" likely refers to things like formula. My guess is lobbyists successfully bribed the US into shutting the resolution down because it could hurt exports.

Of all the things to stop, though, a WHO resolution on breastfeeding seems like the most petty.
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BWLurker posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

BWLurker posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

BWLurker posted...

FLUFFYGERM posted...

The free market is better equipped to make that culture change happen.

A lot of people will be fucked in transition though. Even if a lot of health issues are lifestyle related, a whole bunch aren't.

30% of the current yearly healthcare expenditures in the US are a direct result of lifestyle choices. If you eliminated that, eliminated the tens of billions in yearly medicare fraud, encouraged automation/efficiency in the industry, introduced more competition, and leveraged the free market to get people to live healthier lives...you'd suddenly reduce the costs of the system so much that spending for the rest of the sick is suddenly trivial compared with the total yearly tax revenue of the US.

How do you go about doing this without fucking innocent people over in transition?

How would it fuck over innocent people?

You can't just eliminate that 30%. It's not cut and dry. Who decides what's a lifestyle effect and what was unpreventable? How do you eliminate those billions in fraud, who's going to pay for the ridiculous amount of investigations to make sure that there actually is fraud in each case? With a completely free market, why would insurance companies willingly keep cancer patients and other chronic diseases?

Someone has to make the decision regardless, for ANY government program. Even universal healthcare is going to require someone to decide what is "necessary" treatment and what is "optional" or "cosmetic" treatment. There's no easy answer in any solution, because not everyone can have everything, so someone inevitably has to decide who gets and who doesn't. This is true of ANY social program.
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Is there any unique gimmick to the combat, or is it standard fare turn based RPG menu combat? The game looks gorgeous but I just don't have it in me to play a normal JRPG anymore because of how tedious the combat is (which is like 99% of the actual game time)
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Up
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First off let me begin by saying that I want everyone to have access to healthcare and I think the current healthcare system is critically flawed and far too expensive.

BUT, it isn't a right. That's because rights are supposed to be permanent "inalienable" things. A right to free speech means I have it forever. A right to assembly means I have it forever. A right to a jury of peers means I have that forever. The problem with healthcare as a right is that health has a unique personal responsibility angle to it. If I decide to do nothing but eat garbage, never exercise, balloon out to 300lbs.. that can negatively impact access and cost to healthcare of others... directly negatively impacting their "right" to healthcare through increases in taxes, fees, wait times, etc. If healthcare is a right, that means I hold no responsibility for those actions, because no matter what I do you can't take my right away.

There are things that people deserve access to, but aren't rights, simply because we need to reserve the ability to revoke something from someone abusing it. Healthcare is one such thing. The moment we make it a right, we acknowledge that personal responsibility no longer applies to it, and no matter what someone does we have to give them full access to it, forever.
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"We hold freedom of speech very dear." Unless you make your pug do a Nazi salute as a joke... then you go to jail.

Or unless you say something mean on Facebook, at which point the London police are arresting an average of 9 people a day:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/police-arresting-nine-people-a-day-in-fight-against-web-trolls-b8nkpgp2d
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Chaotic Neutral
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That's... stupid cheap for a 65 inch TV.
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"Do you want this?"
"Yea"
"Yea? You want it?"
"Oh baby"
"Ma'am, I'm going to need a clear 'yes' before I can continue"
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