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eston 07/06/18 3:34:29 PM #52:	Colorahdo posted... 1) Why are people calling the police for non-emergency matters like this? clearly you've never worked in the industry. I'd guess about half of all of my calls when I worked on an ambulance were total BS. Like "I'm bored so I called, how's your day going?" level of BS Most people who call 911 are the bottom rung of society and have little education Yeah they really should start cracking down on it. Like, I get that they don't want someone in a genuine emergency to hesitate, but 99% of the time it's pretty easy to discern whether calling 911 is actually necessary --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:904605015] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Colorahdo posted...</cite> <quote>1) Why are people calling the police for non-emergency matters like this? clearly you've never worked in the industry. I'd guess about half of all of my calls when I worked on an ambulance were total BS. Like "I'm bored so I called, how's your day going?" level of BS Most people who call 911 are the bottom rung of society and have little education</quote> Yeah they really should start cracking down on it. Like, I get that they don't want someone in a genuine emergency to hesitate, but 99% of the time it's pretty easy to discern whether calling 911 is actually necessary</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
yusiko 07/06/18 3:44:25 PM #53:	Bloodychess posted... yusiko posted... Shuto-uke posted... Foppe posted... This is why Trump won. he won because racists harass black people at the pool? he won because racists wanted to be able to harass people at pools again One reason he won is because some people want to turn anything into a race issue yes racists wanted to turn things into a race issue by wanting to discriminate based on race which is why they voted for trump --- yusketeer <cite>yusiko posted [p:904605570] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bloodychess posted...</cite> <quote><cite>yusiko posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Foppe posted...</cite> <quote>This is why Trump won.</quote> he won because racists harass black people at the pool?</quote> he won because racists wanted to be able to harass people at pools again</quote> One reason he won is because some people want to turn anything into a race issue</quote> yes racists wanted to turn things into a race issue by wanting to discriminate based on race which is why they voted for trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gatorsPENSbucs 07/06/18 3:52:04 PM #54:	eston posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... CableZL posted... So many questions Like why is this even a story. They got it solved now time to move on. It's a story because it's similar to other high profile incidents that have happened recently, and honestly as a white guy who doesn't have to deal with this shit it has been pretty eye-opening Ah, well as a white guy that's had stuff like this happen his whole life it's really not worthy of a news story. --- https://imgur.com/pqMQZyw <cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted [p:904605975] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>So many questions</quote> Like why is this even a story. They got it solved now time to move on.</quote> It's a story because it's similar to other high profile incidents that have happened recently, and honestly as a white guy who doesn't have to deal with this shit it has been pretty eye-opening</quote> Ah, well as a white guy that's had stuff like this happen his whole life it's really not worthy of a news story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 07/06/18 5:07:28 PM #55:	eston posted... s0nicfan posted... After watching the video, the guy says he asks for ID a couple of times a week. It sounds like she just absolutely refused, and ALSO refused to show him her pool ID, and he called the cops. If the guy is actually telling the truth and this is just a thing he does randomly to check up on people, then this is probably not nearly as racist (or racist at all) as this article would imply. If she's the only black woman in the pool club as she claims, and the guy does this a few times a week, then he mostly asks white people for ID. It's entirely possible this guy was being racist, but it's also possible he was just doing his job. It isn't his job though. It isn't anyone's job. No one in that neighborhood is required to show ID to use the pool, and there is a card reader that verifies the keycard before letting them in because that is literally the entire purpose of the card reader. This is just some entitled asshole. Turns out I was 95% right. He is/was on the HOA board for the community and was the pool monitor for the community. So in essence it was his job. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:904609993] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>eston posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>After watching the video, the guy says he asks for ID a couple of times a week. It sounds like she just absolutely refused, and ALSO refused to show him her pool ID, and he called the cops. If the guy is actually telling the truth and this is just a thing he does randomly to check up on people, then this is probably not nearly as racist (or racist at all) as this article would imply. If she's the only black woman in the pool club as she claims, and the guy does this a few times a week, then he mostly asks white people for ID. It's entirely possible this guy was being racist, but it's also possible he was just doing his job.</quote> It isn't his job though. It isn't anyone's job. No one in that neighborhood is required to show ID to use the pool, and there is a card reader that verifies the keycard before letting them in because that is literally the entire purpose of the card reader. This is just some entitled asshole.</quote> Turns out I was 95% right. He is/was on the HOA board for the community and was the pool monitor for the community. So in essence it was his job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:08:06 PM #56:	Monolith1676 posted... Turns out I was 95% right. He is/was on the HOA board for the community and was the pool monitor for the community. So in essence it was his job. Asking people for ID to enter the pool wasn't his job. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904610028] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Monolith1676 posted...</cite> <quote>Turns out I was 95% right. He is/was on the HOA board for the community and was the pool monitor for the community. So in essence it was his job. </quote> Asking people for ID to enter the pool wasn't his job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 07/06/18 5:10:08 PM #57:	CableZL posted... Monolith1676 posted... Turns out I was 95% right. He is/was on the HOA board for the community and was the pool monitor for the community. So in essence it was his job. Asking people for ID to enter the pool isn't his job. Actually it is. Being on an HOA board is a volunteer job and if it is in the bylaws of the community to show ID that you are a member of the community then he was in the right. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:904610118] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monolith1676 posted...</cite> <quote>Turns out I was 95% right. He is/was on the HOA board for the community and was the pool monitor for the community. So in essence it was his job. </quote> Asking people for ID to enter the pool isn't his job.</quote> Actually it is. Being on an HOA board is a volunteer job and if it is in the bylaws of the community to show ID that you are a member of the community then he was in the right.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:12:41 PM #58:	Monolith1676 posted... Actually it is. Being on an HOA board is a volunteer job and if it is in the bylaws of the community to show ID that you are a member of the community then he was in the right. It isn't. The only thing required for access to the pool is the key card and she had that, which is why the police ultimately determined that he was in the wrong. Nowhere is it posted that ID is required to enter the pool. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904610223] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Monolith1676 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it is. Being on an HOA board is a volunteer job and if it is in the bylaws of the community to show ID that you are a member of the community then he was in the right. </quote> It isn't. The only thing required for access to the pool is the key card and she had that, which is why the police ultimately determined that he was in the wrong. Nowhere is it posted that ID is required to enter the pool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 5:14:09 PM #59:	More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122 A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association. The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904610311] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122 <quote>A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association. The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 07/06/18 5:15:09 PM #60:	s0nicfan posted... More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122 A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association. The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool. LMAO savage play, Mr. Bloom. You gonna have to give dat name up though --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:904610358] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122 <quote>A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association. The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool.</quote></quote> LMAO savage play, Mr. Bloom. You gonna have to give dat name up though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:15:31 PM #61:	s0nicfan posted... More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122 A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association. The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool. And the only thing necessary in this situation was: 1) Ask her if she was a member of the community - Answer: Yes 2) Ask if she has the key card - Answer: Yes Asking for ID and calling the police is overzealous at minimum. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904610374] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122 <quote>A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association. The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool.</quote></quote> And the only thing necessary in this situation was: 1) Ask her if she was a member of the community - Answer: Yes 2) Ask if she has the key card - Answer: Yes Asking for ID and calling the police is overzealous at minimum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 5:16:14 PM #62:	CableZL posted... s0nicfan posted... More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122 A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association. The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool. And the only thing necessary in this situation was: 1) Ask her if she was a member of the community - Answer: Yes 2) Ask if she has the key card - Answer: Yes Asking for ID and calling the police is overzealous at minimum. He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. When the cops asks if he can see it, she says HE can, at least implying that this guy did exactly what you said and she got indignant and refused. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904610397] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>More details: he only approached her because (allegedly) someone else asked him to. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44731122 <quote>A lawyer representing the individual, named in local media as Adam Bloom, said he was merely doing his job as pool chairman and board member for the local homeowner's association. The attorney, John Vermitsky, told the Winston-Salem Journal that Mr Bloom had approached Ms Edwards because another resident had questioned whether she was a member of the pool.</quote></quote> And the only thing necessary in this situation was: 1) Ask her if she was a member of the community - Answer: Yes 2) Ask if she has the key card - Answer: Yes Asking for ID and calling the police is overzealous at minimum.</quote> He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. When the cops asks if he can see it, she says HE can, at least implying that this guy did exactly what you said and she got indignant and refused.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kavatar 07/06/18 5:16:52 PM #63:	The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag. --- The sea was angry that day, my friends. Like an old man trying to send back soup at a deli. <cite>Kavatar posted [p:904610434] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 07/06/18 5:17:11 PM #64:	CableZL posted... Monolith1676 posted... Actually it is. Being on an HOA board is a volunteer job and if it is in the bylaws of the community to show ID that you are a member of the community then he was in the right. It isn't. The only thing required for access to the pool is the key card and she had that, which is why the police ultimately determined that he was in the wrong. Nowhere is it posted that ID is required to enter the pool. Alot of HOAs don't actually post such rules and just leave it in the paperwork. He could have gone about making sure she lived in the community a completely different way. I used to work in security and had to deal with almost identical situations. Homeowners and renters were passing off their key to the pool area to friends and the pool area was only to be used by guests if a resident was present. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:904610445] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Monolith1676 posted...</cite> <quote>Actually it is. Being on an HOA board is a volunteer job and if it is in the bylaws of the community to show ID that you are a member of the community then he was in the right. </quote> It isn't. The only thing required for access to the pool is the key card and she had that, which is why the police ultimately determined that he was in the wrong. Nowhere is it posted that ID is required to enter the pool.</quote> Alot of HOAs don't actually post such rules and just leave it in the paperwork. He could have gone about making sure she lived in the community a completely different way. I used to work in security and had to deal with almost identical situations. Homeowners and renters were passing off their key to the pool area to friends and the pool area was only to be used by guests if a resident was present.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:17:21 PM #65:	s0nicfan posted... He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904610454] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. </quote> She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 5:17:29 PM #66:	Kavatar posted... The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag. Oh, he's 100% a douche bag. I just don't think this is a case of racial profiling. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904610465] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kavatar posted...</cite> <quote>The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag.</quote> Oh, he's 100% a douche bag. I just don't think this is a case of racial profiling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 5:18:42 PM #67:	CableZL posted... s0nicfan posted... He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place. re-watch the video. Starting from the 2:20 minute mark. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904610534] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. </quote> She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place.</quote> re-watch the video. Starting from the 2:20 minute mark.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrResetti 07/06/18 5:18:43 PM #68:	I've worked with her before. Small world man. --- https://imgur.com/GRZEGPm https://imgur.com/OeMgQZT <cite>MrResetti posted [p:904610535] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>I've worked with her before. Small world man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 07/06/18 5:20:08 PM #69:	Can't even go to the pool while black anymore. SMH What can we do as black people? --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:904610607] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>Can't even go to the pool while black anymore. SMH What can we do as black people?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:22:42 PM #70:	s0nicfan posted... CableZL posted... s0nicfan posted... He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place. re-watch the video. Starting from the 2:20 minute mark. The whole video he claimed he asked for her ID, not her key card. The dude only asked to see the key card when the police asked for it. She refused to show her ID and obviously used her key card to access the pool. She stated at the beginning of the video that she even gave him her address. Then he asked to see her ID, which she rightfully refused. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904610751] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. </quote> She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place.</quote> re-watch the video. Starting from the 2:20 minute mark.</quote> The whole video he claimed he asked for her ID, not her key card. The dude only asked to see the key card when the police asked for it. She refused to show her ID and obviously used her key card to access the pool. She stated at the beginning of the video that she even gave him her address. Then he asked to see her ID, which she rightfully refused.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 5:26:21 PM #71:	CableZL posted... s0nicfan posted... CableZL posted... s0nicfan posted... He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place. re-watch the video. Starting from the 2:20 minute mark. The whole video he claimed he asked for her ID, not her key card. The dude only asked to see the key card when the police asked for it. She refused to show her ID and obviously used her key card to access the pool. She stated at the beginning of the video that she even gave him his address. Then he asked to see her ID, which she rightfully refused. Officer: "Well you have a key card to get into the pool?" Woman: "Yes I do" Adam: "Okay, then just show access to the pool" Officer: "Do you have your key card"? Woman: "I do have my key card" Officer: "Would you mind if I saw your key card?" Woman: "I don't mind showing it to YOU (emphasis on the you is hers, not mine), but its not a requirement to use the pool like he was requesting" Like, this isn't my interpretation of what happened. These are the literal words from the video. EDIT: and when the cop uses the card, the guy says "allright. perfect" Since we don't have video from before she started recording, we don't know exactly what was said, but it's clear from the audio that he asked for the key card at some point and she refused that, too. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904610935] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>He did ask her for her key card. She says in the video she refused to show it to him. </quote> She refused to show her ID, not the key card. She obviously would have had to use the key card to get into the pool area in the first place.</quote> re-watch the video. Starting from the 2:20 minute mark.</quote> The whole video he claimed he asked for her ID, not her key card. The dude only asked to see the key card when the police asked for it. She refused to show her ID and obviously used her key card to access the pool. She stated at the beginning of the video that she even gave him his address. Then he asked to see her ID, which she rightfully refused.</quote> Officer: "Well you have a key card to get into the pool?" Woman: "Yes I do" Adam: "Okay, then just show access to the pool" Officer: "Do you have your key card"? Woman: "I do have my key card" Officer: "Would you mind if I saw your key card?" Woman: "I don't mind showing it to YOU (emphasis on the you is hers, not mine), but its not a requirement to use the pool like he was requesting" Like, this isn't my interpretation of what happened. These are the literal words from the video. EDIT: and when the cop uses the card, the guy says "allright. perfect" Since we don't have video from before she started recording, we don't know exactly what was said, but it's clear from the audio that he asked for the key card at some point and she refused that, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:29:41 PM #72:	s0nicfan posted... Officer: "Well you have a key card to get into the pool?" Woman: "Yes I do" Adam: "Okay, they just show access to the pool" Officer: "Do you have your key card"? Woman: "I do have my key card" Officer: "Would you mind if I saw your key card?" Woman: "I don't mind showing it to YOU (emphasis on the you is hers, not mine), but its not a requirement to use the pool like he was requesting" Like, this isn't my interpretation of what happened. These are the literal words from the video. And again s0nicfan posted... The whole video he claimed he asked for her ID, not her key card. The dude only asked to see the key card when the police asked for it. Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the pool, he still said "Showing ID would be nice," lol. She gave him her address and used the key card to enter the pool, but he wasn't satisfied with that. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904611093] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Officer: "Well you have a key card to get into the pool?" Woman: "Yes I do" Adam: "Okay, they just show access to the pool" Officer: "Do you have your key card"? Woman: "I do have my key card" Officer: "Would you mind if I saw your key card?" Woman: "I don't mind showing it to YOU (emphasis on the you is hers, not mine), but its not a requirement to use the pool like he was requesting" Like, this isn't my interpretation of what happened. These are the literal words from the video.</quote> And again <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The whole video he claimed he asked for her ID, not her key card. The dude only asked to see the key card when the police asked for it. </quote> Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the pool, he still said "Showing ID would be nice," lol. She gave him her address and used the key card to enter the pool, but he wasn't satisfied with that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 5:31:20 PM #73:	CableZL posted... Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the pool, he still said "Showing ID would be nice," lol. She gave him her address and used the key card to enter the pool, but he wasn't satisfied with that. All we know for a fact, going from their exact words is that she wasn't okay with showing the guy her key card. Everything else you're suggesting is speculation. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904611189] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the pool, he still said "Showing ID would be nice," lol. She gave him her address and used the key card to enter the pool, but he wasn't satisfied with that.</quote> All we know for a fact, going from their exact words is that she wasn't okay with showing the guy her key card. Everything else you're suggesting is speculation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:33:34 PM #74:	s0nicfan posted... EDIT: and when the cop uses the card, the guy says "allright. perfect" LOL. 2:30: She agrees to give the pool card to the police so he can test it 2:53: Cop uses the key card and sees that it works 3:13: "A form of ID would be helpful to validate." --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904611312] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>EDIT: and when the cop uses the card, the guy says "allright. perfect" </quote> LOL. 2:30: She agrees to give the pool card to the police so he can test it 2:53: Cop uses the key card and sees that it works 3:13: "A form of ID would be helpful to validate."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DavidWong 07/06/18 5:34:18 PM #75:	Pools closed /Habbo --- When goods do not cross borders, soldiers will. Frederic Bastiat, French economist (1801-1850) <cite>DavidWong posted [p:904611352] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>Pools closed /Habbo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:34:37 PM #76:	If simply using the key card to open the door was "perfect," then she never would have needed to show ID in the first place. Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the door, he still wanted to see her ID. She stated she gave him her address and he wasn't satisfied with that. All he had to do at that point was see that the key card worked, but he wanted to see her ID and she didn't want to show it to him. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904611373] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>If simply using the key card to open the door was "perfect," then she never would have needed to show ID in the first place. Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the door, he still wanted to see her ID. She stated she gave him her address and he wasn't satisfied with that. All he had to do at that point was see that the key card worked, but he wanted to see her ID and she didn't want to show it to him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Schwarber 07/06/18 5:36:58 PM #77:	itt: Gotta justify his scummy behavior somehow, I guess. --- https://imgur.com/iQXgYOx https://imgur.com/l3frhSF https://imgur.com/HM1Hjby https://imgur.com/bvsFH0H - drawn by Yaridovich <cite>Schwarber posted [p:904611506] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>itt: Gotta justify his scummy behavior somehow, I guess.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Axiom 07/06/18 5:37:07 PM #78:	Racists love using their tiny bit of authority to harass innocent people <cite>Axiom posted [p:904611512] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>Racists love using their tiny bit of authority to harass innocent people</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 5:37:18 PM #79:	CableZL posted... s0nicfan posted... EDIT: and when the cop uses the card, the guy says "allright. perfect" LOL. 2:30: She agrees to give the pool card to the police so he can test it 2:53: Cop uses the key card and sees that it works 3:13: "A form of ID would be helpful to validate." The fact that he says that at 3:13 doesn't make the things said earlier not happen. The reality here is the guy as part of a HOA and at the request of another pool person asked for her ID. She refused to give him any form of identification, including the key card, so he called the cops. She recorded everything from when the cop shows up, and this guy is now plastered all over mainstream media and fired not only from the HOA, but according to the BBC from his actual job. The dude's life has now been irreparably wrecked, all because he asked for some identification. That's insane. CableZL posted... If simply using the key card to open the door was "perfect," then she never would have needed to show ID in the first place. Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the door, he still wanted to see her ID. She stated she gave him her address and he wasn't satisfied with that. All he had to do at that point was see that the key card worked, but he wanted to see her ID and she didn't want to show it to him. We DON'T KNOW what happened before she started recording, but there's no reason to believe he didn't also ask to see her key card and she refused, because that's what their actual dialogue says. An address isn't proof of membership, which is all he wanted. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904611526] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>EDIT: and when the cop uses the card, the guy says "allright. perfect" </quote> LOL. 2:30: She agrees to give the pool card to the police so he can test it 2:53: Cop uses the key card and sees that it works 3:13: "A form of ID would be helpful to validate."</quote> The fact that he says that at 3:13 doesn't make the things said earlier not happen. The reality here is the guy as part of a HOA and at the request of another pool person asked for her ID. She refused to give him any form of identification, including the key card, so he called the cops. She recorded everything from when the cop shows up, and this guy is now plastered all over mainstream media and fired not only from the HOA, but according to the BBC from his actual job. The dude's life has now been irreparably wrecked, all because he asked for some identification. That's insane. <cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>If simply using the key card to open the door was "perfect," then she never would have needed to show ID in the first place. Even after seeing that her key card worked and opened the door, he still wanted to see her ID. She stated she gave him her address and he wasn't satisfied with that. All he had to do at that point was see that the key card worked, but he wanted to see her ID and she didn't want to show it to him.</quote> We DON'T KNOW what happened before she started recording, but there's no reason to believe he didn't also ask to see her key card and she refused, because that's what their actual dialogue says. An address isn't proof of membership, which is all he wanted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:40:49 PM #80:	s0nicfan posted... The fact that he says that at 3:13 doesn't make the things said earlier not happen. Exactly. She stated she gave him her address, and obviously used her key card to enter the pool area. That's all that's necessary here. Again, calling the police on her is overzealous at minimum. He asked for her ID and the first time he even mentions asking her to verify that her key card works is after the police ask for it. Even after he sees that her key card works, he still wanted to see her ID. He couldn't point to or state one community bylaw that requires photo ID to access the pool area. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904611729] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that he says that at 3:13 doesn't make the things said earlier not happen. </quote> Exactly. She stated she gave him her address, and obviously used her key card to enter the pool area. That's all that's necessary here. Again, calling the police on her is overzealous at minimum. He asked for her ID and the first time he even mentions asking her to verify that her key card works is after the police ask for it. Even after he sees that her key card works, he still wanted to see her ID. He couldn't point to or state one community bylaw that requires photo ID to access the pool area.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 5:41:47 PM #81:	CableZL posted... s0nicfan posted... The fact that he says that at 3:13 doesn't make the things said earlier not happen. Exactly. She stated she gave him her address, and obviously used her key card to enter the pool area. That's all that's necessary here. Again, calling the police on her is overzealous at minimum. He asked for her ID and the first time he even mentions asking her to verify that her key card works is after the police ask for it. Even after he sees that her key card works, he still wanted to see her ID. He couldn't point to or state one community bylaw that requires photo ID to access the pool area. Not obvious at all. At no point in any of their dialogue did she even imply she did that. He would have had to forcibly block her from the gate, which would have been a much bigger deal. The fact that she used her ID after he showed up is irrelevant to whether she refused to use it prior to the cop showing up. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904611789] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>The fact that he says that at 3:13 doesn't make the things said earlier not happen. </quote> Exactly. She stated she gave him her address, and obviously used her key card to enter the pool area. That's all that's necessary here. Again, calling the police on her is overzealous at minimum. He asked for her ID and the first time he even mentions asking her to verify that her key card works is after the police ask for it. Even after he sees that her key card works, he still wanted to see her ID. He couldn't point to or state one community bylaw that requires photo ID to access the pool area.</quote> Not obvious at all. At no point in any of their dialogue did she even imply she did that. He would have had to forcibly block her from the gate, which would have been a much bigger deal. The fact that she used her ID after he showed up is irrelevant to whether she refused to use it prior to the cop showing up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:42:10 PM #82:	s0nicfan posted... We DON'T KNOW what happened before she started recording s0nicfan posted... but there's no reason to believe he didn't also ask to see her key card and she refused LOL Except for the fact that he repeatedly tried to justify the fact that he asks for ID on a seemingly regular basis and never even mentioned testing the key card until the cop came up with the idea just to end the situation. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904611802] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>We DON'T KNOW what happened before she started recording</quote> <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote> but there's no reason to believe he didn't also ask to see her key card and she refused</quote> LOL Except for the fact that he repeatedly tried to justify the fact that he asks for ID on a seemingly regular basis and never even mentioned testing the key card until the cop came up with the idea just to end the situation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 5:44:30 PM #83:	So are you fine with how all this falls out, cable? Do you think justice has been done? I'm clearly not going to convince you that this guy was just doing what he does all the time as part of his HOA job, and you're clearly unconvinced that she refused to provide him anything other than an address until the cops showed up, so I'm done fighting that battle. Do you believe he deserves to lose his job and have his full name and picture plastered across multiple major news agencies as a racist over asking for an ID? --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904611937] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>So are you fine with how all this falls out, cable? Do you think justice has been done? I'm clearly not going to convince you that this guy was just doing what he does all the time as part of his HOA job, and you're clearly unconvinced that she refused to provide him anything other than an address until the cops showed up, so I'm done fighting that battle. Do you believe he deserves to lose his job and have his full name and picture plastered across multiple major news agencies as a racist over asking for an ID?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:47:30 PM #84:	https://www.journalnow.com/news/local/man-accused-of-racism-no-longer-employed-by-sonoco-after/article_081feb9a-4f15-53be-a4ae-dd91b4e43e26.html Bloom and the woman who shot the video both live in the Glenridge community, which is off Robinhood Road, said Karam Gulkham, a lifeguard manager for the pool. The pool is gated. Members have cards and must scan them to get into the pool area. About 2 p.m. Wednesday, Bloom asked a black woman, who was in the pool area, for identification, Gulkham said. Theres a keycard to the door to get into the pool, Gulkham said. Apparently it was not enough for him. I dont know why he felt it wasnt enough. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904612096] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>https://www.journalnow.com/news/local/man-accused-of-racism-no-longer-employed-by-sonoco-after/article_081feb9a-4f15-53be-a4ae-dd91b4e43e26.html Bloom and the woman who shot the video both live in the Glenridge community, which is off Robinhood Road, said Karam Gulkham, a lifeguard manager for the pool. The pool is gated. Members have cards and must scan them to get into the pool area. About 2 p.m. Wednesday, Bloom asked a black woman, who was in the pool area, for identification, Gulkham said. Theres a keycard to the door to get into the pool, Gulkham said. Apparently it was not enough for him. I dont know why he felt it wasnt enough.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:49:47 PM #85:	s0nicfan posted... So are you fine with how all this falls out, cable? Do you think justice has been done? I'm clearly not going to convince you that this guy was just doing what he does all the time as part of his HOA job, and you're clearly unconvinced that she refused to provide him anything other than an address until the cops showed up, so I'm done fighting that battle. Do you believe he deserves to lose his job and have his full name and picture plastered across multiple major news agencies as a racist over asking for an ID? I'm not fine with how all this falls out. I've been saying this whole topic that the police should have never been called in the 1st place because she gave him her address AND had a working key card. According to the lifeguard manager, she was already in the pool area when Adam Bloom asked her for identification. I'm not happy that he lost his job, but he's an asshole for calling the police because she wouldn't show him her ID when she had everything she needed to properly access the pool. She shouldn't have to show ID just because he isn't satisfied with knowing her address. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904612216] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>So are you fine with how all this falls out, cable? Do you think justice has been done? I'm clearly not going to convince you that this guy was just doing what he does all the time as part of his HOA job, and you're clearly unconvinced that she refused to provide him anything other than an address until the cops showed up, so I'm done fighting that battle. Do you believe he deserves to lose his job and have his full name and picture plastered across multiple major news agencies as a racist over asking for an ID?</quote> I'm not fine with how all this falls out. I've been saying this whole topic that the police should have never been called in the 1st place because she gave him her address AND had a working key card. According to the lifeguard manager, she was already in the pool area when Adam Bloom asked her for identification. I'm not happy that he lost his job, but he's an asshole for calling the police because she wouldn't show him her ID when she had everything she needed to properly access the pool. She shouldn't have to show ID just because he isn't satisfied with knowing her address.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 5:49:57 PM #86:	CableZL posted... https://www.journalnow.com/news/local/man-accused-of-racism-no-longer-employed-by-sonoco-after/article_081feb9a-4f15-53be-a4ae-dd91b4e43e26.html Bloom and the woman who shot the video both live in the Glenridge community, which is off Robinhood Road, said Karam Gulkham, a lifeguard manager for the pool. The pool is gated. Members have cards and must scan them to get into the pool area. About 2 p.m. Wednesday, Bloom asked a black woman, who was in the pool area, for identification, Gulkham said. Theres a keycard to the door to get into the pool, Gulkham said. Apparently it was not enough for him. I dont know why he felt it wasnt enough. Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to: Gulkham, who was not at the pool on Wednesday, said all lifeguards were apprised of the incident via a group message. He said officers resolved the situation peacefully, but he was left wondering why it occurred. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904612219] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>https://www.journalnow.com/news/local/man-accused-of-racism-no-longer-employed-by-sonoco-after/article_081feb9a-4f15-53be-a4ae-dd91b4e43e26.html Bloom and the woman who shot the video both live in the Glenridge community, which is off Robinhood Road, said Karam Gulkham, a lifeguard manager for the pool. The pool is gated. Members have cards and must scan them to get into the pool area. About 2 p.m. Wednesday, Bloom asked a black woman, who was in the pool area, for identification, Gulkham said. Theres a keycard to the door to get into the pool, Gulkham said. Apparently it was not enough for him. I dont know why he felt it wasnt enough.</quote> Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to: <quote>Gulkham, who was not at the pool on Wednesday, said all lifeguards were apprised of the incident via a group message. He said officers resolved the situation peacefully, but he was left wondering why it occurred.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 5:54:23 PM #87:	s0nicfan posted... Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to: So your argument is that while she was walking toward the pool area, another resident asked Adam Bloom to verify that she belongs in the pool area? How does that even make sense? You yourself admit "we don't know what happened before the recording," but somehow you're 100% sure that he asked to see her key card as well? Even though he never even brings up the idea of verifying the key card for almost 2.5 minutes of the video, but mentions asking for her ID and justifies asking for her ID? And still wants to see her ID after seeing the key card work? --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904612487] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to: </quote> So your argument is that while she was walking toward the pool area, another resident asked Adam Bloom to verify that she belongs in the pool area? How does that even make sense? You yourself admit "we don't know what happened before the recording," but somehow you're 100% sure that he asked to see her key card as well? Even though he never even brings up the idea of verifying the key card for almost 2.5 minutes of the video, but mentions asking for her ID and justifies asking for her ID? And still wants to see her ID after seeing the key card work?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 6:21:39 PM #88:	CableZL posted... s0nicfan posted... Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to: So your argument is that while she was walking toward the pool area, another resident asked Adam Bloom to verify that she belongs in the pool area? How does that even make sense? You yourself admit "we don't know what happened before the recording," but somehow you're 100% sure that he asked to see her key card as well? Even though he never even brings up the idea of verifying the key card for almost 2.5 minutes of the video, but mentions asking for her ID and justifies asking for her ID? And still wants to see her ID after seeing the key card work? What I think likely happened is he asked her for ID as he does periodically as part of his HOA responsibility, most often to other white people (since it sounds like this place is almost exclusively white). She gave him an address, and he said that wasn't good enough (because an address without an ID doesn't prove anything). At that point she could have just pulled our her key card and gone in, but she didn't, and I don't think he blocked the door either. I think they both got testy, she accused him of racism, and he called the cops because she was making a scene. The cops showed up, she used her key card and the cop said that was going to have to be evidence enough for him, and then she ruined his life. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904614018] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to: </quote> So your argument is that while she was walking toward the pool area, another resident asked Adam Bloom to verify that she belongs in the pool area? How does that even make sense? You yourself admit "we don't know what happened before the recording," but somehow you're 100% sure that he asked to see her key card as well? Even though he never even brings up the idea of verifying the key card for almost 2.5 minutes of the video, but mentions asking for her ID and justifies asking for her ID? And still wants to see her ID after seeing the key card work?</quote> What I think likely happened is he asked her for ID as he does periodically as part of his HOA responsibility, most often to other white people (since it sounds like this place is almost exclusively white). She gave him an address, and he said that wasn't good enough (because an address without an ID doesn't prove anything). At that point she could have just pulled our her key card and gone in, but she didn't, and I don't think he blocked the door either. I think they both got testy, she accused him of racism, and he called the cops because she was making a scene. The cops showed up, she used her key card and the cop said that was going to have to be evidence enough for him, and then she ruined his life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 6:28:11 PM #89:	s0nicfan posted... CableZL posted... s0nicfan posted... Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to: So your argument is that while she was walking toward the pool area, another resident asked Adam Bloom to verify that she belongs in the pool area? How does that even make sense? You yourself admit "we don't know what happened before the recording," but somehow you're 100% sure that he asked to see her key card as well? Even though he never even brings up the idea of verifying the key card for almost 2.5 minutes of the video, but mentions asking for her ID and justifies asking for her ID? And still wants to see her ID after seeing the key card work? What I think likely happened is he asked her for ID as he does periodically as part of his HOA responsibility, most often to other white people (since it sounds like this place is almost exclusively white). She gave him an address, and he said that wasn't good enough (because an address without an ID doesn't prove anything). At that point she could have just pulled our her key card and gone in, but she didn't, and I don't think he blocked the door either. I think they both got testy, she accused him of racism, and he called the cops because she was making a scene. The cops showed up, she used her key card and the cop said that was going to have to be evidence enough for him, and then she ruined his life. So your speculation is OK, but nobody else's speculation is OK. Gotcha. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904614339] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>Your source WASN'T EVEN THERE. From the same article you linked to: </quote> So your argument is that while she was walking toward the pool area, another resident asked Adam Bloom to verify that she belongs in the pool area? How does that even make sense? You yourself admit "we don't know what happened before the recording," but somehow you're 100% sure that he asked to see her key card as well? Even though he never even brings up the idea of verifying the key card for almost 2.5 minutes of the video, but mentions asking for her ID and justifies asking for her ID? And still wants to see her ID after seeing the key card work?</quote> What I think likely happened is he asked her for ID as he does periodically as part of his HOA responsibility, most often to other white people (since it sounds like this place is almost exclusively white). She gave him an address, and he said that wasn't good enough (because an address without an ID doesn't prove anything). At that point she could have just pulled our her key card and gone in, but she didn't, and I don't think he blocked the door either. I think they both got testy, she accused him of racism, and he called the cops because she was making a scene. The cops showed up, she used her key card and the cop said that was going to have to be evidence enough for him, and then she ruined his life.</quote> So your speculation is OK, but nobody else's speculation is OK. Gotcha.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 6:30:28 PM #90:	CableZL posted... So your speculation is OK, but nobody else's speculation is OK. Gotcha. I've been explicitly avoiding posting my speculation because in this instance NOBODY'S speculation is useful. However, as I said since you're not going to be convinced that your speculation is wrong based only on what we know for a fact, and given that you're not even really trying anymore by using the "account" of someone who wasn't even there as evidence of what happened, I figured "why the hell not, might as well say what I think." --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904614474] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>So your speculation is OK, but nobody else's speculation is OK. Gotcha.</quote> I've been explicitly avoiding posting my speculation because in this instance NOBODY'S speculation is useful. However, as I said since you're not going to be convinced that your speculation is wrong based only on what we know for a fact, and given that you're not even really trying anymore by using the "account" of someone who wasn't even there as evidence of what happened, I figured "why the hell not, might as well say what I think."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 6:33:10 PM #91:	And no, she didn't ruin his life. He did that to himself. She didn't force him to call the cops. The police were completely unnecessary in this situation. He couldn't point to or state one posted rule or community statue that requires residents to show ID to access the pool to the police. Hell, I doubt it's required to even give your own key card to him to verify. Simply using the key card to access the pool is probably all that's needed and giving him her address was probably a nice gesture in itself. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904614614] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>And no, she didn't ruin his life. He did that to himself. She didn't force him to call the cops. The police were completely unnecessary in this situation. He couldn't point to or state one posted rule or community statue that requires residents to show ID to access the pool to the police. Hell, I doubt it's required to even give your own key card to him to verify. Simply using the key card to access the pool is probably all that's needed and giving him her address was probably a nice gesture in itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/06/18 6:36:18 PM #92:	Kavatar posted... The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag. For real --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:904614778] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kavatar posted...</cite> <quote>The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag.</quote> For real</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 6:36:50 PM #93:	s0nicfan posted... I've been explicitly avoiding posting my speculation LMAO, no you haven't. s0nicfan posted... He did ask her for her key card. When did he ask to see her key card? Certainly not in the video until the cop came up with the idea. You're speculating here. I also doubt it's required for a resident to give anyone else their key card to verify access to the pool. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904614804] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>I've been explicitly avoiding posting my speculation </quote> LMAO, no you haven't. <cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>He did ask her for her key card.</quote> When did he ask to see her key card? Certainly not in the video until the cop came up with the idea. You're speculating here. I also doubt it's required for a resident to give anyone else their key card to verify access to the pool.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 6:37:06 PM #94:	CableZL posted... And no, she didn't ruin his life. He did that to himself. She didn't force him to call the cops. The police were completely unnecessary in this situation. He couldn't point to or state one posted rule or community statue that requires residents to show ID to access the pool to the police. Hell, I doubt it's required to even give your own key card to him to verify. Simply using the key card to access the pool is probably all that's needed and giving him her address was probably a nice gesture in itself. He didn't record the video or post it online and make the claims of racism, so no he didn't do this to himself. I'm sure that if he thought calling the cops would have resulted in his name and face being posted across multiple front pages of major media sites, losing his job, and being kicked out his volunteer position he wouldn't have asked or called. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904614825] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>And no, she didn't ruin his life. He did that to himself. She didn't force him to call the cops. The police were completely unnecessary in this situation. He couldn't point to or state one posted rule or community statue that requires residents to show ID to access the pool to the police. Hell, I doubt it's required to even give your own key card to him to verify. Simply using the key card to access the pool is probably all that's needed and giving him her address was probably a nice gesture in itself.</quote> He didn't record the video or post it online and make the claims of racism, so no he didn't do this to himself. I'm sure that if he thought calling the cops would have resulted in his name and face being posted across multiple front pages of major media sites, losing his job, and being kicked out his volunteer position he wouldn't have asked or called.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/06/18 6:38:29 PM #95:	s0nicfan posted... He didn't record the video or post it online and make the claims of racism, so no he didn't do this to himself. I'm sure that if he thought calling the cops would have resulted in his name and face being posted across multiple front pages of major media sites, losing his job, and being kicked out his volunteer position he wouldn't have asked or called. Bishop9800 posted... Kavatar posted... The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag. --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:904614886] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>He didn't record the video or post it online and make the claims of racism, so no he didn't do this to himself. I'm sure that if he thought calling the cops would have resulted in his name and face being posted across multiple front pages of major media sites, losing his job, and being kicked out his volunteer position he wouldn't have asked or called.</quote> <cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kavatar posted...</cite> <quote>The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag.</quote> </quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 6:38:56 PM #96:	s0nicfan posted... He didn't record the video or post it online and make the claims of racism, so no he didn't do this to himself. I'm sure that if he thought calling the cops would have resulted in his name and face being posted across multiple front pages of major media sites, losing his job, and being kicked out his volunteer position he wouldn't have asked or called. Yeah, and he clearly assumes he has more authority than he actually does. He says he regularly asks people for ID when he has no right to actually see anyone's ID for access to the pool. Again, he couldn't point to a single posted rule or name one community statute that requires residents to show their ID to him for pool access. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904614910] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>He didn't record the video or post it online and make the claims of racism, so no he didn't do this to himself. I'm sure that if he thought calling the cops would have resulted in his name and face being posted across multiple front pages of major media sites, losing his job, and being kicked out his volunteer position he wouldn't have asked or called. </quote> Yeah, and he clearly assumes he has more authority than he actually does. He says he regularly asks people for ID when he has no right to actually see anyone's ID for access to the pool. Again, he couldn't point to a single posted rule or name one community statute that requires residents to show their ID to him for pool access.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/06/18 6:39:30 PM #97:	Bishop9800 posted... Kavatar posted... The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag. For real It really doesn't bother you at all that this guy's life has been ruined over asking somebody for an ID at a pool Club? I already agreed that he was a douchebag, but it's a little discomforting with how casually people accept this guy just being destroyed for something he supposedly does all the time to other members as well. As part of his H O A responsibilities. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:904614934] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kavatar posted...</cite> <quote>The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag.</quote> For real</quote> It really doesn't bother you at all that this guy's life has been ruined over asking somebody for an ID at a pool Club? I already agreed that he was a douchebag, but it's a little discomforting with how casually people accept this guy just being destroyed for something he supposedly does all the time to other members as well. As part of his H O A responsibilities.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 07/06/18 6:40:37 PM #98:	s0nicfan posted... Bishop9800 posted... Kavatar posted... The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag. For real It really doesn't bother you at all that this guy's life has been ruined over asking somebody for an ID at a pool Club? I already agreed that he was a douchebag, but it's a little discomforting with how casually people accept this guy just being destroyed for something he supposedly does all the time to other members as well. As part of his H O A responsibilities. It's his fault for being a dick. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:904614989] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kavatar posted...</cite> <quote>The usual suspects bending over backwards to defend this douche bag.</quote> For real</quote> It really doesn't bother you at all that this guy's life has been ruined over asking somebody for an ID at a pool Club? I already agreed that he was a douchebag, but it's a little discomforting with how casually people accept this guy just being destroyed for something he supposedly does all the time to other members as well. As part of his H O A responsibilities.</quote> It's his fault for being a dick.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 07/06/18 6:41:36 PM #99:	s0nicfan posted... It really doesn't bother you at all that this guy's life has been ruined over asking somebody for an ID at a pool Club? I already agreed that he was a douchebag, but it's a little discomforting with how casually people accept this guy just being destroyed for something he supposedly does all the time to other members as well. As part of his H O A responsibilities. He brought this on himself. But I'll play your game... Please show me where in the HOA rules and responsibilities that says he had the right to ask for her ID. --- Seriously. I don't care what side of the fence someone is on, if they are a piece of crap, they are a piece of crap. <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:904615039] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>s0nicfan posted...</cite> <quote>It really doesn't bother you at all that this guy's life has been ruined over asking somebody for an ID at a pool Club? I already agreed that he was a douchebag, but it's a little discomforting with how casually people accept this guy just being destroyed for something he supposedly does all the time to other members as well. As part of his H O A responsibilities.</quote> He brought this on himself. But I'll play your game... Please show me where in the HOA rules and responsibilities that says he had the right to ask for her ID.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 6:42:39 PM #100:	Bishop9800 posted... He brought this on himself. But I'll play your game... Please show me where in the HOA rules and responsibilities that says he had the right to ask for her ID. Or even the right to ask that she give him her key card. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904615084] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote>He brought this on himself. But I'll play your game... Please show me where in the HOA rules and responsibilities that says he had the right to ask for her ID. </quote> Or even the right to ask that she give him her key card.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 07/06/18 6:44:14 PM #101:	I guess when you live in a neighborhood, you have to make 100% sure that all other residents know your name, address, driver's license number, social security number, have a copy of your long form birth certificate, etc. Just so you won't be harassed for using the pool or trying to come home from work. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:904615155] in NC man cal... [t:76782952]...</cite> <quote>I guess when you live in a neighborhood, you have to make 100% sure that all other residents know your name, address, driver's license number, social security number, have a copy of your long form birth certificate, etc. Just so you won't be harassed for using the pool or trying to come home from work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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