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E32005
07/06/18 12:03:15 PM
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John_Galt
07/06/18 12:04:40 PM
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*checks market*

Yawn.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
07/06/18 12:04:52 PM
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Dollar General stores across the globe are shook
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kingdrake2
07/06/18 12:05:02 PM
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in all honesty. it's trumps fault. i don't blame china for what their doing they have every right to do what they're doing.
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CableZL
07/06/18 12:05:15 PM
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Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/06/18 12:06:16 PM
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They sell more to us than we them, we'll win this trade war with China.

That said, Trump is a fucking moron with shitty on NAFTA the way he is.
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BLAKUboy
07/06/18 12:06:32 PM
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CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?

Trade wars are so easy to win though.
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E32005
07/06/18 12:06:55 PM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
Dollar General stores across the globe are shook

This is what ppl dont get who support trump
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/06/18 12:07:24 PM
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CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?


Shitty Chinese stuff you shouldn't be buying anyways.
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Darkman124
07/06/18 12:10:35 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
They sell more to us than we them, we'll win this trade war with China.

That said, Trump is a fucking moron with shitty on NAFTA the way he is.


trade wars don't traditionally have winners
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CableZL
07/06/18 12:20:55 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?


Shitty Chinese stuff you shouldn't be buying anyways.

Not necessarily. A lot of products people use come from China or have parts that are made in China.
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Payzmaykr
07/06/18 12:23:53 PM
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Theyre literally angry that President Trump isnt a weak negotiator like Obama. His deals were so bad hat President Trump has to be flat out aggressive to let these nations know that if a trade deal doesnt benefit the United States, then it wont be made. Our purpose is not to pour money into foreign economies, but rather to keep every US dollar in our economy while bringing in capitol from other nations.

Its not gonna be us going around giving other nations the bigger end of the stick, anymore. We are the country to beat again.
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CableZL
07/06/18 12:25:03 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
Theyre literally angry that President Trump isnt a weak negotiator like Obama. His deals were so bad hat President Trump has to be flat out aggressive to let these nations know that if a trade deal doesnt benefit the United States, then it wont be made. Our purpose is not to pour money into foreign economies, but rather to keep every US dollar in our economy while bringing in capitol from other nations.

Its not gonna be us going around giving other nations the bigger end of the stick, anymore. We are the country to beat again.


How does this trade war benefit the United States?
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Phantom_Nook
07/06/18 12:26:41 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?

Shitty Chinese stuff you shouldn't be buying anyways.

Like MAGA hats?
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E32005
07/06/18 12:27:03 PM
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CableZL posted...
Payzmaykr posted...
Theyre literally angry that President Trump isnt a weak negotiator like Obama. His deals were so bad hat President Trump has to be flat out aggressive to let these nations know that if a trade deal doesnt benefit the United States, then it wont be made. Our purpose is not to pour money into foreign economies, but rather to keep every US dollar in our economy while bringing in capitol from other nations.

Its not gonna be us going around giving other nations the bigger end of the stick, anymore. We are the country to beat again.


How does this trade war benefit the United States?

Hes a Hoth alt
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eggcorn
07/06/18 12:27:08 PM
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CableZL posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?


Shitty Chinese stuff you shouldn't be buying anyways.

Not necessarily. A lot of products people use come from China or have parts that are made in China.

I've made it a point for years to not buy anything made in china. The only possible products I may have from china are internal parts for my laptop and maybe some auto parts if the manufacturer used them.
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kingdrake2
07/06/18 12:28:17 PM
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whomever is hoth we say hello.
and i'm sparing you on the lecture today. just not feeling up to it.
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ArchiePeck
07/06/18 12:28:33 PM
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Don't we borrow money From China EVERY MONTH (and are hugely in debt to them) just to run the country? This'll end well...
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scar the 1
07/06/18 12:30:14 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?


Shitty Chinese stuff you shouldn't be buying anyways.

Like smartphones
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DifferentialEquation
07/06/18 12:30:16 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
They sell more to us than we them, we'll win this trade war with China.

That said, Trump is a fucking moron with shitty on NAFTA the way he is.


trade wars don't traditionally have winners


Trade wars aren't traditionally fought by someone like Trump who has a natural gift in businesses and game theory. We will win this trade war.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/06/18 12:30:18 PM
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Phantom_Nook posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?

Shitty Chinese stuff you shouldn't be buying anyways.

Like MAGA hats?


Well . . . stuff like MAGA hats yes, however . . .

https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/official-donald-trump-make-america-great-again-cap-red

Proudly Made in USA
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eggcorn
07/06/18 12:30:24 PM
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10 days ago china wasn't sure they could handle it.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-25/as-trade-war-looms-china-wonders-whether-it-s-up-for-the-fight
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E32005
07/06/18 12:34:19 PM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
Darkman124 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
They sell more to us than we them, we'll win this trade war with China.

That said, Trump is a fucking moron with shitty on NAFTA the way he is.


trade wars don't traditionally have winners


Trade wars aren't traditionally fought by someone like Trump who has a natural gift in businesses and game theory. We will win this trade war.

Still doing this gimmick?
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Darkman124
07/06/18 12:36:01 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?

Shitty Chinese stuff you shouldn't be buying anyways.

Like MAGA hats?


Well . . . stuff like MAGA hats yes, however . . .

https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/official-donald-trump-make-america-great-again-cap-red

Proudly Made in USA


this is a great moment for a fun read about the challenges of verifying the 'made in USA' claim on a product, and what happens when you expend the necessary resources to actually validate it

https://apnews.com/f4c578713bf941b69473464267b60cf5
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CableZL
07/06/18 12:38:43 PM
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eggcorn posted...
CableZL posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?


Shitty Chinese stuff you shouldn't be buying anyways.

Not necessarily. A lot of products people use come from China or have parts that are made in China.

I've made it a point for years to not buy anything made in china. The only possible products I may have from china are internal parts for my laptop and maybe some auto parts if the manufacturer used them.


Lots of electronics are either made in China or have parts that are made in China, though. It's pretty tough to not buy anything made in China in that regard. Smartphones, laptops, desktops, monitors, televisions, furniture, speakers, keyboards, watches, smartwatches, batteries, etc. all commonly are either entirely made in China or have parts that are made in China.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/06/18 12:44:48 PM
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Reducing foreign consumption is still a good thing, but complete elimination isn't an ideal worth striving for.
Bringing more of the end product manufacturing process into the US. is good generally.
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LIsJustice
07/06/18 12:45:36 PM
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I think we all know who the winner here will be Congrats China!
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Genocet_10-325
07/06/18 12:46:10 PM
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Good. I hope other countries follow suit with China and impose severe tariffs on us. The American people dug their grave when they elected trump and should now have to lie in it.
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eggcorn
07/06/18 12:46:50 PM
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CableZL posted...
eggcorn posted...
CableZL posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?


Shitty Chinese stuff you shouldn't be buying anyways.

Not necessarily. A lot of products people use come from China or have parts that are made in China.

I've made it a point for years to not buy anything made in china. The only possible products I may have from china are internal parts for my laptop and maybe some auto parts if the manufacturer used them.


Lots of electronics are either made in China or have parts that are made in China, though. It's pretty tough to not buy anything made in China in that regard. Smartphones, laptops, desktops, monitors, televisions, furniture, speakers, keyboards, watches, smartwatches, batteries, etc. all commonly are either entirely made in China or have parts that are made in China.

Oh yeah that is true, I should have added my phone and ps4 as a possible.
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DragonGirlYuki
07/06/18 12:46:59 PM
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No one wins in a trade war. Trump's anti trade policy is what I dislike the most about him.
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Genocet_10-325
07/06/18 12:53:58 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Hooray for more expensive goods for no fucking reason!

As I said, this is a good thing because America needs their lives to get worse in a tangible way to realize the mistake they made voting for Trump.
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Foppe
07/06/18 12:55:02 PM
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But this is all Chinas fault for responding to Trumps tariffs, Trump is innocent!
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/06/18 12:55:28 PM
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Trump is taking it to the extreme yes, but Sanders was a protectionist as well.
I grant that Trump is too far on this one but what are your suggestions for dealing with them (China) on trade? Less aggressive measures or are ya'll fundamentally against tariffs?
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/06/18 12:58:16 PM
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Foppe posted...
But this is all Chinas fault for responding to Trumps tariffs, Trump is innocent!


It's China's fault for currency manipulation, using slave labor lite, disregarding the environment to bring costs down, communist dabbling in markets, insane IP sharing requirements to do business there, and ignoring copy right laws.
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eggcorn
07/06/18 12:58:53 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Hooray for more expensive goods for no fucking reason!

As I said, this is a good thing because America needs their lives to get worse in a tangible way to realize the mistake they made voting for Trump.

If you have to post the same bait twice it's time to try new bait.
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Genocet_10-325
07/06/18 12:59:26 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Hooray for more expensive goods for no fucking reason!

As I said, this is a good thing because America needs their lives to get worse in a tangible way to realize the mistake they made voting for Trump.

Shut up

Make me.
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Foppe
07/06/18 1:04:13 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
so when this trade war backfires, who will trumpsters blame

US companies that are not loyal.
Like Harley Davidson.
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_OujiDoza_
07/06/18 1:04:21 PM
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Spooking posted...
Bring the jobs back to the US and lets stop counting on China so much, as they are currency manipulators.

Blame white America for that buddy.
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John_Galt
07/06/18 1:07:30 PM
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Even Elizabeth warren favors the tariffs

Imagine if she was the pres. Dems would be tripping over each other to tell us what a great idea it is
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/06/18 1:10:07 PM
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John_Galt posted...
Even Elizabeth warren favors the tariffs


No.
Some tariffs =/= the tariffs.
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E32005
07/06/18 1:11:14 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
CrimsonRage posted...
so when this trade war backfires, who will trumpsters blame

Mexico, China, Muslims, and Obama

Obama no doubt
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s0nicfan
07/06/18 1:14:22 PM
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Trump needs to be hard on China, but I think he's going after the wrong target. His energies should be focused on the south china sea where China's REAL long-term game plan is. I'm also fine with him going super hard on IP theft, since China has effectively stolen trillions of dollars of IP and decades of research and used that to effectively cheat their way into being competitive.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/06/18 1:15:26 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
Trump needs to be hard on China, but I think he's going after the wrong target. His energies should be focused on the south china sea where China's REAL long-term game plan is.


I couldn't agree more.
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Phantom_Nook
07/06/18 1:17:03 PM
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Darkman124 posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
Phantom_Nook posted...
Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
CableZL posted...
Isn't this going to make a lot of things more expensive?

Shitty Chinese stuff you shouldn't be buying anyways.

Like MAGA hats?


Well . . . stuff like MAGA hats yes, however . . .

https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/official-donald-trump-make-america-great-again-cap-red

Proudly Made in USA


this is a great moment for a fun read about the challenges of verifying the 'made in USA' claim on a product, and what happens when you expend the necessary resources to actually validate it

https://apnews.com/f4c578713bf941b69473464267b60cf5

And it's still going.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/05/politics/china-trade-trump-2020-flags/index.html
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