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CableZL
07/06/18 1:53:12 PM
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5923187/Family-tapes-pool-encounter-says-hassled-race.html

In the video, Edwards says that the man called police because she refused to show an ID to get into the pool.

'Where does it say that I have to show an ID to use my own pool?' the woman can be heard asking the man, who stumbles providing an answer.

Edwards informs the police that the man - identified simply as Adam by folks on social media - only came and asked her for identification, while another woman shares that she too has a black child but was not asked to show ID.

The man asserts that he asks residents 'a couple times a week' to show their identification.

Edwards continues by explaining that she told the man her address, but he continued to harass her for the ID.

An officer asks what people typically need to get into the pool and is told there is a keycard.

'Do you have your keycard?' the cop asks. 'Would you mind if I see your keycard?'

Edwards explains that the only way she was able to get into the pool was with the key card, adding that she wouldn't have climbed the fence to get in because she has a baby.

When the woman's keycard opens the gate, the police officer tells the man that is all she needs to get into the pool.

The police apologize to the woman for wasting the time and for the 'altercation that occurred.'

The man insists that he still needs a form of ID would have been nice, but the police assert that she is in the right.


1) Why are people calling the police for non-emergency matters like this?
2) Why is he asking for people's ID just to enter a swimming pool?
3) Why does he ask some people for ID and not others?
4) What authority does he have to ask for people's ID?

So many questions
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Peter_Giffyndor
07/06/18 2:01:42 PM
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He went full Chad. You never go full Chad
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Monolith1676
07/06/18 2:04:20 PM
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Sounds like an HOA hired a pool monitor.
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Foppe
07/06/18 2:07:56 PM
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Because he wants to use his Pools Closed sign.
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eston
07/06/18 2:08:04 PM
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Monolith1676 posted...
Sounds like an HOA hired a pool monitor.

He was at the pool with his family and there didn't seem to be any indication that this was his job
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Dat_Cracka_Jax
07/06/18 2:11:53 PM
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Our community pool required a community issued id card. If this one doesn't then he shouldn't ask for one
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MedzXVIII
07/06/18 2:12:44 PM
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...
Our community pool required a community issued id card. If this one doesn't then he shouldn't ask for one

I heard of wrist bands. Never ID
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/06/18 2:13:35 PM
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CableZL posted...
So many questions

Like why is this even a story. They got it solved now time to move on.
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Foppe
07/06/18 2:15:13 PM
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This is why Trump won.
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eston
07/06/18 2:16:30 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
CableZL posted...
So many questions

Like why is this even a story. They got it solved now time to move on.

It's a story because it's similar to other high profile incidents that have happened recently, and honestly as a white guy who doesn't have to deal with this shit it has been pretty eye-opening
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nicklebro
07/06/18 2:17:06 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
CableZL posted...
So many questions

Like why is this even a story. They got it solved now time to move on.

Cuz white people calling the cops unnecessarily is an issue we need to solve, not just move on from.
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Bloodychess
07/06/18 2:17:25 PM
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eston posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
CableZL posted...
So many questions

Like why is this even a story. They got it solved now time to move on.

It's a story because it's similar to other high profile incidents that have happened recently, and honestly as a white guy who doesn't have to deal with this shit it has been pretty eye-opening

Yeah white people never have to deal with this kind of stuff
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MedzXVIII
07/06/18 2:17:44 PM
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As a kid I would get the police called on me all the time while I was skateboarding.
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CableZL
07/06/18 2:18:49 PM
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The summer before 9th grade, I remember being at the pool with a couple friends and someone called the police on us. The police officer looked really annoyed that he got called about us swimming in the neighborhood pool.
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SkittyOnWailord
07/06/18 2:19:15 PM
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eston posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
CableZL posted...
So many questions

Like why is this even a story. They got it solved now time to move on.

It's a story because it's similar to other high profile incidents that have happened recently, and honestly as a white guy who doesn't have to deal with this shit it has been pretty eye-opening


This. Someone did something stupid and was told they were wrong. If that was news then this board should be on the news 24/7.
And no one was even remotely hurt or threatened either. :/

Edit: 4 minutes and a few answers late.
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Shuto-uke
07/06/18 2:25:10 PM
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CableZL posted...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5923187/Family-tapes-pool-encounter-says-hassled-race.html

In the video, Edwards says that the man called police because she refused to show an ID to get into the pool.

'Where does it say that I have to show an ID to use my own pool?' the woman can be heard asking the man, who stumbles providing an answer.

Edwards informs the police that the man - identified simply as Adam by folks on social media - only came and asked her for identification, while another woman shares that she too has a black child but was not asked to show ID.

The man asserts that he asks residents 'a couple times a week' to show their identification.

Edwards continues by explaining that she told the man her address, but he continued to harass her for the ID.

An officer asks what people typically need to get into the pool and is told there is a keycard.

'Do you have your keycard?' the cop asks. 'Would you mind if I see your keycard?'

Edwards explains that the only way she was able to get into the pool was with the key card, adding that she wouldn't have climbed the fence to get in because she has a baby.

When the woman's keycard opens the gate, the police officer tells the man that is all she needs to get into the pool.

The police apologize to the woman for wasting the time and for the 'altercation that occurred.'

The man insists that he still needs a form of ID would have been nice, but the police assert that she is in the right.


1) Why are people calling the police for non-emergency matters like this?
2) Why is he asking for people's ID just to enter a swimming pool?
3) Why does he ask some people for ID and not others?
4) What authority does he have to ask for people's ID?

So many questions


He has the same facial expression and body language of that one fat woman who called the cops on the black people having a BBQ in CA. It's uncanny!

Anyway, good news, this racist got fired:

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36696297_10156465225128194_2147768683504599040_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=42cde21fd4f2c97648c469e7b1bcb2dc&oe=5BAC6262

This is a lesson for all of the minorities who are encountering this more and more often (thanks, 45!):

1) Cooperate with the police, be extra nice
2) FILM THE WHOLE THING.

The fact that permit patty (The woman who called the cops on the girl selling water), BBQ Barbara (the woman who called the cops on the guys grilling) and now Pool Paul (this guy) got fired and faced consequences is because of the social media backlash associated with their vile actions. So film up! Let's make racists afraid again.
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MedzXVIII
07/06/18 2:26:57 PM
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1) Cooperate with the police, be extra nice

Great advice
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SkittyOnWailord
07/06/18 2:28:02 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
Anyway, good news, this racist got fired:


Good news. Glade to see such a fast ending to this.
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ScazarMeltex
07/06/18 2:28:39 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
1) Cooperate with the police, be extra nice

Great advice

Especially if you are black and don't want to get shot.
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Shuto-uke
07/06/18 2:29:24 PM
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Foppe posted...
This is why Trump won.


he won because racists harass black people at the pool?
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Payzmaykr
07/06/18 2:30:53 PM
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This should not be national news.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/06/18 2:38:46 PM
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He didn't even apologize. What a piece of shit. He probably knew he was fucked the moment the camera came out. lol

1) Why are people calling the police for non-emergency matters like this?


If* she were trespassing, it would be perfect cause to call the police. Police aren't just emergency services. They response to all criminal complaints.
Also did you miss where the officer stated he was also a courtesy officer?
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Shuto-uke
07/06/18 2:40:23 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
This should not be national news.


yeah when it's the other way around y'all whine on fox news
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Payzmaykr
07/06/18 2:40:57 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
Payzmaykr posted...
This should not be national news.


yeah when it's the other way around y'all whine on fox news

Yall?
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MedzXVIII
07/06/18 2:41:17 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
1) Cooperate with the police, be extra nice

Great advice

Especially if you are black and don't want to get shot.

Works for anyone. No race card needed
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CableZL
07/06/18 2:41:22 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
If* she were trespassing, it would be perfect cause to call the police. Police aren't just emergency services. They response to all criminal complaints.
Also did you miss where the officer stated he was also a courtesy officer?


She has a pool key card, though. That would be enough to prove she wasn't trespassing in this case. She doesn't need to show ID to the guy to prove anything. It could have been solved just by her using her key card to open the door without police. He called police because she wouldn't show him her ID. He doesn't have the right to see her ID at all.
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CableZL
07/06/18 2:41:38 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
1) Cooperate with the police, be extra nice

Great advice

Especially if you are black and don't want to get shot.

Works for anyone. No race card needed

Didn't work for Charles Kinsey
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yusiko
07/06/18 2:43:08 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
Foppe posted...
This is why Trump won.


he won because racists harass black people at the pool?


he won because racists wanted to be able to harass people at pools again
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ScazarMeltex
07/06/18 2:43:35 PM
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CableZL posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
1) Cooperate with the police, be extra nice

Great advice

Especially if you are black and don't want to get shot.

Works for anyone. No race card needed

Didn't work for Charles Kinsey

Yeah, police certainly have no problem murdering unarmed people of any race. But lets not pretend here that you aren't more likely to be murdered by them if you are black.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
07/06/18 2:44:12 PM
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CableZL posted...
She has a pool key card, though. That would be enough to prove she wasn't trespassing in this case. She doesn't need to show ID to the guy to prove anything. It could have been solved just by her using her key card to open the door without police. He called police because she wouldn't show him her ID. He doesn't have the right to see her ID at all.


I agree with all of this. And in this specific case, he shouldn't have called the police.

But you're wrong on only calling the cops in emergencies.
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nicklebro
07/06/18 2:44:18 PM
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CableZL posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
1) Cooperate with the police, be extra nice

Great advice

Especially if you are black and don't want to get shot.

Works for anyone. No race card needed

Didn't work for Charles Kinsey

Or philando Castile
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eston
07/06/18 2:44:58 PM
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Payzmaykr posted...
This should not be national news.

Why, because you don't care about it? Wah wah, plenty of people do. It's important to show people that this bullshit is happening all over our nation
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CableZL
07/06/18 2:45:23 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
CableZL posted...
She has a pool key card, though. That would be enough to prove she wasn't trespassing in this case. She doesn't need to show ID to the guy to prove anything. It could have been solved just by her using her key card to open the door without police. He called police because she wouldn't show him her ID. He doesn't have the right to see her ID at all.


I agree with all of this. And in this specific case, he shouldn't have called the police.

But you're wrong on only calling the cops in emergencies.

1) Why are people calling the police for non-emergency matters like this?
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s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:46:27 PM
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After watching the video, the guy says he asks for ID a couple of times a week. It sounds like she just absolutely refused, and ALSO refused to show him her pool ID, and he called the cops. If the guy is actually telling the truth and this is just a thing he does randomly to check up on people, then this is probably not nearly as racist (or racist at all) as this article would imply.

If she's the only black woman in the pool club as she claims, and the guy does this a few times a week, then he mostly asks white people for ID.

It's entirely possible this guy was being racist, but it's also possible he was just doing his job.
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CableZL
07/06/18 2:47:18 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
After watching the video, the guy says he asks for ID a couple of times a week. It sounds like she just absolutely refused, and ALSO refused to show him her pool ID, and he called the cops. If the guy is actually telling the truth and this is just a thing he does randomly to check up on people, then this is probably not nearly as racist (or racist at all) as this article would imply.

If she's the only black woman in the pool club as she claims, and the guy does this a few times a week, then he mostly asks white people for ID.

It's entirely possible this guy was being racist, but it's also possible he was just doing his job.


Asking for ID isn't part of the job if ID isn't required to enter the pool.
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s0nicfan
07/06/18 2:48:28 PM
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CableZL posted...
s0nicfan posted...
After watching the video, the guy says he asks for ID a couple of times a week. It sounds like she just absolutely refused, and ALSO refused to show him her pool ID, and he called the cops. If the guy is actually telling the truth and this is just a thing he does randomly to check up on people, then this is probably not nearly as racist (or racist at all) as this article would imply.

If she's the only black woman in the pool club as she claims, and the guy does this a few times a week, then he mostly asks white people for ID.

It's entirely possible this guy was being racist, but it's also possible he was just doing his job.


Asking for ID isn't part of the job if ID isn't required to enter the pool.


But if he does it a few times a week and has been doing it for his career at a mostly white pool club, then it also isn't racist.
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MedzXVIII
07/06/18 2:48:32 PM
#39:


CableZL posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
1) Cooperate with the police, be extra nice

Great advice

Especially if you are black and don't want to get shot.

Works for anyone. No race card needed

Didn't work for Charles Kinsey

Oh right I remember. That was terrible. Did the officer who shot him get charged? Just like the metoo it is the real victims who suffer the most by the lies on both sides.
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eston
07/06/18 2:50:31 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
After watching the video, the guy says he asks for ID a couple of times a week. It sounds like she just absolutely refused, and ALSO refused to show him her pool ID, and he called the cops. If the guy is actually telling the truth and this is just a thing he does randomly to check up on people, then this is probably not nearly as racist (or racist at all) as this article would imply.

If she's the only black woman in the pool club as she claims, and the guy does this a few times a week, then he mostly asks white people for ID.

It's entirely possible this guy was being racist, but it's also possible he was just doing his job.

It isn't his job though. It isn't anyone's job. No one in that neighborhood is required to show ID to use the pool, and there is a card reader that verifies the keycard before letting them in because that is literally the entire purpose of the card reader. This is just some entitled asshole.
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ultimate reaver
07/06/18 2:55:57 PM
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lmao what a fucking loser
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MedzXVIII
07/06/18 2:59:46 PM
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It seems he has done this before. Why now is it a big deal? Why was he not fired after the first or second time?
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CableZL
07/06/18 3:00:42 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
It seems he has done this before. Why now is it a big deal? Why was he not fired after the first or second time?


Probably because no one reported him. He shouldn't be asking anyone for ID at the pool. All he needs to know is whether the person has a key card to enter the pool properly.
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s0nicfan
07/06/18 3:01:27 PM
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eston posted...
s0nicfan posted...
After watching the video, the guy says he asks for ID a couple of times a week. It sounds like she just absolutely refused, and ALSO refused to show him her pool ID, and he called the cops. If the guy is actually telling the truth and this is just a thing he does randomly to check up on people, then this is probably not nearly as racist (or racist at all) as this article would imply.

If she's the only black woman in the pool club as she claims, and the guy does this a few times a week, then he mostly asks white people for ID.

It's entirely possible this guy was being racist, but it's also possible he was just doing his job.

It isn't his job though. It isn't anyone's job. No one in that neighborhood is required to show ID to use the pool, and there is a card reader that verifies the keycard before letting them in because that is literally the entire purpose of the card reader. This is just some entitled asshole.


Yea I agree with that.
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eston
07/06/18 3:03:04 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
It seems he has done this before. Why now is it a big deal? Why was he not fired after the first or second time?

Maybe he's used to people just complying. Maybe she's the first one to challenge him. Or maybe she's just the first one to get it on video.

People who do this kind of stuff do it because they think they can.
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Taharqa_
07/06/18 3:14:37 PM
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In the latest edition of Being Black While.

Dear racists, we have a right to exist in spaces that you occupy.
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Bloodychess
07/06/18 3:20:48 PM
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yusiko posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
Foppe posted...
This is why Trump won.


he won because racists harass black people at the pool?


he won because racists wanted to be able to harass people at pools again

One reason he won is because some people want to turn anything into a race issue
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brestugo
07/06/18 3:22:19 PM
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Various news outlets are reporting #poolpatrolpaul has been fired!

Maybe he can get a job checking IDs.......
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SomeGuyUO
07/06/18 3:28:39 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
It seems he has done this before. Why now is it a big deal? Why was he not fired after the first or second time?


He's only SAYING he has done it before.
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Colorahdo
07/06/18 3:31:41 PM
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1) Why are people calling the police for non-emergency matters like this?

clearly you've never worked in the industry. I'd guess about half of all of my calls when I worked on an ambulance were total BS. Like "I'm bored so I called, how's your day going?" level of BS

Most people who call 911 are the bottom rung of society and have little education
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CableZL
07/06/18 3:32:08 PM
#51:


brestugo posted...
Various news outlets are reporting #poolpatrolpaul has been fired!

Maybe he can get a job checking IDs.......


I love the nicknames being assigned to these people.

#BBQbecky
#poolpatrolpaula
#poolpatrolpaul
#darthbecky
#permitpatty
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