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Trucy and Ema are both basically certain to surpass Franziska, so Franziska's the odd one out. I can't remember if I predicted her or Trucy outside the top 10. I always knew it was going to come down to these 11 characters anyway, so it was a really tough call figuring out who was going to be #11. But it's definitely Franziska now.

Paratroopa1 posted...

I'm a little surprised by how talkative Klavier is but I guess you talk to him quite a bit outside of court and he's especially involved in this particular case.

Oh, and my bet is on Phoenix having the most lines in 4-4, by juuust a hair.

My guess on lines in 4-4 is that it's gonna be Phoenix > Apollo > Judge > Trucy > Klavier > Valant > Brushel > Zak > other people

Ooooh, so close!

Phoenix was good enough to beat Zak before he even met Trucy, that's how all this got started in the first place.

why wouldn't he just play tournament poker if he wants to do it legal though

does japan not have tournament poker?

I kinda wish in AA5/AA6 they brought up Phoenix's poker skills again

I dunno, I just think poker expert Phoenix is really cool

Yeah I mean Phoenix's real job was playing poker right

Although they had to like, really lamely censor the gambling part of it I guess? that's what it felt like anyway. "oh they don't play for MONEY, people just pay to play the legendary Phoenix Wright at poker for some reason"

but either way, that's his real job, the piano thing is a front... because even though they're not gambling... he still needs a cover...?

it really makes zero fucking sense, but it's funny so ok

Phoenix as a great poker player makes sense though

Oh I'm surprised by how few lines Valant had there. I'm wrong about Valant > Brushel for sure.

I think they've moved on from Mia entirely at this point which is good - the characters are older now and no longer need her guidance, it wouldn't serve much of a purpose.

I dunno, I just feel like they would try to slip at least one old character back into the mix, although I guess there aren't too many mainstays who haven't shown up again. It's just Gumshoe and Franziska. (And Mia sort of.)

I have actually been wondering this: Who is the most likely character from the original trilogy to make a return in AA7? Since Maya mentions Gumshoe by name in 6-6 I kind of feel like maybe we haven't seen the last of him and he could show up again.

I would say Franziska would be cool to see again but it's really hard to bring back old prosecutors since there isn't a lot of space for them and we gotta have a new one.

LeonhartFour posted...

Yeah, everything surrounding Magnifi's suicide is really good, including the final twist that it was in fact a suicide.

Also it's kinda weird to me that they talk about diabetes and cancer here because I think this is the only case where serious diseases like that are ever even mentioned. It's like it's obvious that they exist here, too, but they almost seem like "mundane" details in the Ace Attorney universe.

This is especially funny one case after "incuritis"

Ugh, 4-4 has a good emotional heart, but they just miss the execution on so many levels

I actually do really like the murder mystery in the flashback case though, I think it's really cool

I'm feeling good about my lines guess except for Phoenix > Apollo

What was the dig she made again?

Trucy has a surprisingly high number of lines in 6-5, so I'm not sure.

Ashethan posted...

Part of me thinks Fox news is just so incompetent.

No, they're malicious.

This looks completely insufferable to me

Maybe somewhere it has the same heart that Wreck-It Ralph did but wow it looks bad

I love brands

One thing about 4-4 is that I was immediately startled by how short the first investigation phase is. It's like, seriously abrupt.

The gaming world doesn't really move that much faster now than it ever did btw, in fact I would argue it actually moves a little slower because large communities tend to keep one game alive for a lot longer. I had flavor of the month games as a kid all the time. We just didn't have social media

I think a big part of the reason there's a disconnect here is because we grew up at a time when gaming was a new medium. When OoT and FF7 happened, they were things that had never been seen before on that scale. They kind of broke new ground on the very idea of what a game could be in a way that can't be done very often, and they were clearly the pinnacles of gaming experience at the time (if you were into sprawling action-adventure or RPG games, anyway). Now not only do we have a much wider variety of games out there but we also still have all of the old games. Kids today have a really vast array of stuff to play whereas we had a much smaller 'canon' of great games. The younguns will be fine. They have stuff they love and are passionate about too

Hmmm maybe I'm wrong about Phoenix. I dunno. But the Mason system investigation is just soooo long, and 4-0 is longer than trial day 2. Trial day 1 is a reasonable length, but Apollo's investigation is also very short, and part of it includes Phoenix at the start! I dunno. Gut feeling tells me that Mason system is just so much longer than everything else and that puts it over the edge.

I'm a little surprised by how talkative Klavier is but I guess you talk to him quite a bit outside of court and he's especially involved in this particular case.

Oh, and my bet is on Phoenix having the most lines in 4-4, by juuust a hair.

My guess on lines in 4-4 is that it's gonna be Phoenix > Apollo > Judge > Trucy > Klavier > Valant > Brushel > Zak > other people

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1002951786301415424?s=21

The question mark here kills me

why I can't believe this, how could Trump's best friend China do this

I wonder how many lines Lamiroir is gonna have in 4-3. She talks a hell of a lot.

5-6 is close to being my favorite case in the series

holy crap you like E2-4 a lot

I'm gonna do a full case writeup thing when I finish AAI2 but I had to put it on hold because I'm out of town and only have my laptop and my laptop can't run AAI2

I think both halves of 6-5 are top 10 cases each personally. 6-5a is just a really fucking solid case, Apollo + Dhurke is a great pair that get tons of great development in it, Paul Atishon and Sarge are both fantastic supporting characters, going up against Phoenix is fucking perfect, and even the murder scenario itself is pretty good.

I keep 6-5 combined because I have a really hard time deciding how I want to rank 6-5a and 6-5b separately

MrSmartGuy posted...

I'm beginning this ranking and I sorta want to cheat. I feel like 5-4 and 5-5 should really be combined, whereas 6-5 needs to be split into, I dunno, 6-5a and 6-5b? How are these usually handled?

I've wondered this a lot myself. In my current ranking I have 5-4 and 5-5 split and 6-5 combined but I really think you could do it any of the four ways:

5-4, 5-5, and 6-5: purist
5-4, 5-5, 6-5a, 6-5b: split
5-4/5-5, 6-5: combined
5-4/5-5, 6-5a, 6-5b: actual most sensible divisions

I don't really know, though. It's true that 6-5a stands as its own case far better than 5-4 does but it's hard to say what you really do with it.

hey you know how people were worried that hillary would be all cozy with the saudis

I mean, valid concern, but I'm just wondering if people remembered how that was a reason not to vote for her and stuff

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

They clean their machines so often it's a meme: "McDonald's ice cream machine is broken".

Yeah, my McDonald's can't serve me a mcflurry like 25% of the time I go there and I almost take it as a good sign

People overrate how much they show the concert video. There's like two really egregious times they play way too much of the video, unskippably, for almost no reason, but it's not quite as excessive as people say it is imo.

I think that South Park has unfortunately contributed to a lot of shittiness in our society from the types of people who don't realize that Cartman is satricial and not an aspirational figure

I don't think Bucky has more than like... 60 lines.

Leonhart4 posted...

Like the reason Apollo does everything on his own on day 2 is because Trucy and especially Lamiroir are stupid about protecting the secret of the magic trick. AJ's treatment of magic as if it's the most sacred thing in the world is one of its most baffling aspects to me.

I literally started cheering in 6-2 when Trucy decided telling Apollo the truth of how the trick works is more important than guarding her trade secret.

Well see, the thing is, they did it correctly here. In 4-3, the mystery is "what is the magic trick?" but in 6-2, the mystery is figuring out how the murderer sabotaged the trick and proving that he did it.

I seriously think y'all crazy on 4-3. It's a great case. I liked it the first time I played it, then people talked me out of thinking it was a good case for a while, and then I replayed it and liked it more the second time. The scenario is really cool and it's the only case where Apollo really gets to shine without anyone helping him through it. Apollo is great on day 2.

I'm talking about telegraphing surprises, don't do that, you can stop at the game being great or bad or mixed

I try to link them in discord before they happen!

Why are you guys constantly setting up expectations for what to expect? Let him be surprised.

Yes you should play it.

4-4 is going to be the most interesting line count in the series, it's the only one where the main character might not be at the top.

The cruelest seed I can think of from the previous tournament is this one, featuring two very strong players no less:



If I think of anything else I'll let you know

I haven't been able to play a single zelda 1 randomizer in the last three months, I can't wait until a couple weeks from now when I can start playing them again

Also I WAS underseeded - like I was kind of annoyed about being called a cinderella when I made the elite 8 in the previous tournament as well and I was only seeded 41 because of a scheduling fluke in the qualifying rounds. When I was seeded by committee in the previous tournament I was seeded 18. Skybilz and I are about equal and we were the biggest threats to ta in that division (which he probably wins like 80% of the time). Going into my match with seawolf (he is a pretty good player don't get me wrong) I had a 9-1 record over him!

Just wanted to explain this. I was probably a little too salty about it in the interview but I think I was just kind of playing with a chip on my shoulder about being considered an underdog. The seeding process was just whack. Saver was a 29 seed, won the whole tournament, and not a single person was surprised.

It's actually really funny that you were like somehow calling this comeback before it happened, it was super unlikely and honestly only happened because ta straight up mismarked where the silver arrows were. He's otherwise about 15 minutes ahead of my pace or so. But it was funny for you to have confidence and I'm sitting here knowing what happened, haha.

It was one of the biggest upsets of the tournament but also probably my worst played match weirdly enough. ta just botched it, poor guy.

Also yeah the sword thing, I tried to pick it up because the number of hearts it requires is randomly between 10-14. I didn't have enough so it didn't work.

oh wow this is a nice surprise, thanks

I'm the only person who actually likes 6-4 so I think SoJ blows DD out of the water

the only exception is the DLC case, where DD's is great and SoJ's is awful

Well, assuming equal DPS the fast weapon is obviously better. Slow weapons need to have better DPS to compensate for being slow. Unless we're talking like WoW-style attacking in which case I don't care.

I didn't feel like AA4 has a tone problem. I think it's just different but it works.

AA4 is

I'm not even sure what the right word is. Not really "dark," or "bleak," although of the AA games it is the most of those things

but it's just like

the most subdued and muted AA

I actually don't mind it, and I hated the game overall less on my most recent replay, but yeah, it is that.