Board 8 > Is there anything that will make this youngest generation feel

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Not sure any games will ever be as overrated as those two, but it's certainly possible!
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LeonhartFour posted...

well yeah but the point is that 20 years later we're still calling them two of the greatest games ever made

Are there any games made in the last 5 years that kids and teens will still be hailing as one of the best games ever 20 years from now?

That's sort of an impossible question, I think. Asking a group of older people, who believe the greatest game(s) of all time came during their youth, about if there are games that could stand the test of time for young people today is a little difficult. Undoubtedly, there are cultural phenomenons that have stood the test of time already (Minecraft, League of Legends), and there are others that have only just recently came out that *could* be that (Overwatch, Fortnite, PUBG), but they're going to have to wait until people can reflect on them in that way.

The "greatest game of all time" will probably come in the form of a service--a socially connected, multiplayer-based, streamable experience that forsakes telling a beginning to end story, and is more about individual player stories about what they did or accomplished in the game. There will be that divide in how people feel about it because the games will look so different from what people like us consider the best games of all time, but that's always been the case!

like league of legends is a huge game with a massive following. But is anyone going to call that the best game ever?
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Nostalgia fueled "gamer" culture is what causes people to still call OoT and FF7 the GOATs. Gaming has expanded far beyond that culture now so preferences are more individual and contemporary. People are more open to new games being their favorite instead of comparing everything to the past.

That being said, Undertale can easily still be GOAT in 20 years. Nier Automata also maybe.
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Super Mario 64 is better than OoT anyway
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LeonhartFour posted...

StealThisSheen posted...

I mean games that are praised at the same level years later are typically praised by the same people that praised them the first time. It's not like OoT and FF7 are constantly bringing in new people going "Yeah man this game is the greatest!" at alarming rates or anything

well yeah but the point is that 20 years later we're still calling them two of the greatest games ever made

Are there any games made in the last 5 years that kids and teens will still be hailing as one of the best games ever 20 years from now?

I bigtime object to this. Minecraft is basically this now and it's 9 years old now. some people have super strong feelings on the PS2 GTA games that are nearing 20. Halo 1 is 17 and there are people who praise that campaign as the absolute greatest.

people my age or older often derided FF7 and OOT the same way that you're doing with the younger generations. games today aren't unique here. what is unique is the social experiences people can have thanks to the internet, easily connected games, twitch etc, and how the concept of the big tentpole single player game is falling off. Nintendo's doing its best to keep it alive and things like Horizon exist, but they're pretty far between now.
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I have definitely seen people our age who were kinda late to gaming revere Halo 1 in that way
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I wasn't asking in a derogatory manner there! That was a sincere question. The video game scene has definitely evolved into something different than what we're all familiar with, and none of us really know how it affects the younger generation's perception of video games as a whole.

Minecraft seems to be the obvious answer because it's almost ubiquitous among young gamers. Kids will look at Minecraft when they're adults the way a lot of us look at Pokemon, I think.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I wasn't asking in a derogatory manner there! That was a sincere question. The video game scene has definitely evolved into something different than what we're all familiar with,

A lot of people really, REALLY mean it in a derogatory manner <_<

DoNT meSs w/ TRUE GAMERS!
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I feel this way about MW2 and I'm not young by any means.
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Isn't Sony's conference this year revolving around 4 big single player experiences and their follow up to Horizon was God of War.

Feels like single player is in a healthy state there.
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I think a big part of the reason there's a disconnect here is because we grew up at a time when gaming was a new medium. When OoT and FF7 happened, they were things that had never been seen before on that scale. They kind of broke new ground on the very idea of what a game could be in a way that can't be done very often, and they were clearly the pinnacles of gaming experience at the time (if you were into sprawling action-adventure or RPG games, anyway). Now not only do we have a much wider variety of games out there but we also still have all of the old games. Kids today have a really vast array of stuff to play whereas we had a much smaller 'canon' of great games. The younguns will be fine. They have stuff they love and are passionate about too

UltimaterializerX posted...

The world moves too fast now. Kids are all about Minecraft and Fortnite, but next year or next month itll be something else. When we were kids, our social media was actually watching someone play Zelda, and that lasted for years. Now people stream it and move on in a week or two.

This, because of you know what of course
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Im hoping Overwatch can become the big beloved game for this generation. Overwatch is so damn fun

The gaming world doesn't really move that much faster now than it ever did btw, in fact I would argue it actually moves a little slower because large communities tend to keep one game alive for a lot longer. I had flavor of the month games as a kid all the time. We just didn't have social media

Paratroopa1 posted...

The gaming world doesn't really move that much faster now than it ever did btw, in fact I would argue it actually moves a little slower because large communities tend to keep one game alive for a lot longer. I had flavor of the month games as a kid all the time. We just didn't have social media

Don't think I can agree with this. The gaming world absolutely moves way faster than ever, and social media/the information age have a ton to do with it. Think back to when we were kids and you'd only hear about a new game when a monthly magazine wrote about it. Nowadays the whole world knows about new games within seconds of them being announced, if not instantly.

That constant ongoing and addictive conversation has people moving much more rapidly between games - perhaps partly out necessity since games that are worth playing are coming out at a kind of absurd clip. When I was a kid I was perfectly content to sit and replay Ocarina of Time over and over all summer long (and to be fair, part of this is because you have pretty much infinite free time as a kid,) but these days people will move from PUBG to Fortnite in no time at all to keep up with what's hot - what their friends are talking about.
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there are more options than ever and the mainstream world sticks to games longer. I think both can be true.
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Xiahou Shake posted...

but these days people will move from PUBG to Fortnite in no time at all to keep up with what's hot - what their friends are talking about.

you're not wrong but you're kind of conflating two different things here. kids are definitely moving on from one game to another super fast but there's also stuff that just stays around for a long time (what people already mentioned - minecraft, overwatch, PUBG, fortnite). i watch a lot of twitch and a gazillion streamers still stream PUBG. kids haven't "moved on" from PUBG to fortnite - they just exist side-by-side now.
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Hmm hmm, I see what you guys are saying. I've actually been doing a lot of thinking on this exact topic in the last few days (not just about games, but media in general,) so my thoughts are still kind of swirling about. In any case, it's certainly a good time to be a gamer.~
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You might say

Its the best time to be playing video games
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BTW is Fortnite officially bigger than League of Legends now? Has the top genre mantle finally passed from MOBAs to Battle Royale?
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LoL still had a higher playerbase than Fortnite or PUBG. It's not particularly close, either. It's just not the 'it' thing and never will be - League of Legends talk rarely exists beyond the people who play it.
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Right. I just think theres a difference between The biggest game in the world and The hottest game in the world.

Im super fascinated by how long League has laid claim to the former
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League has double the concurrent players of Fortnite or PUBG (which are still close although, probably not for long). However, at the moment Fortnite seems to be the most profitable game. The amount of revenue it produced in the past few months is ridiculous.

Although the game with the most concurrent players is apparently a Chinese FPS game called Crossfire that I know nothing about.
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Jakyl25 posted...

BTW is Fortnite officially bigger than League of Legends now? Has the top genre mantle finally passed from MOBAs to Battle Royale?

If Fortnite earned as much money in each month as it earned in April ($296M), it would likely outgross League of Legends for 2018 ($2.1B in 2017).

Fortnite was only approved for release in China on May 15th, and the Android version is still scheduled for Summer.

So, yes.
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Also I'm not sure how to answer to original question because there are so many generations younger than us (and we ourselves belong to several distinct generations), and it is impossible to forecast nostalgic, but for more recent examples with a bit of time since release, look at how much excitement surrounds each release of Skyrim, or Dark Souls Remastered which just came out a few weeks ago.
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transience posted...

there are more options than ever and the mainstream world sticks to games longer. I think both can be true.

Yeah, I agree with this. On one hand, the sheer number of ways to play and consume video games has exploded in an incredible way. You have everything from free-to-play mobile games to premium console games, and everything in between, stretched across a numerous different successful platforms.

Undoubtedly, I think people today -- everyone, not just younger generations -- live in a perpetual state of anticipation and hype for the future, rather than truly processing and playing what's out right now, but at the same time, the biggest games today aren't the ones that have only just released. All the big games are ones that by their very nature are meant to stick around, to be played for infinitely, and see continual updates and new content to keep people coming back and hooked.

People hooked on the biggest games today have more reason than ever before to keep playing those games for one, two, three years after they have released, consistently. A God of War can come out, get all the hype, but after it had its time in the sun, people are back to League of Legends or Fortnite or Minecraft without missing a beat.

The one issue I see with multiplayer games being so big is that theres really a much more limited window for success

A single player game is playable forever, with some exceptions.

A multiplayer game is really only playable with random people while its popular, and I postulate that there is probably an upper limit of how many multiplayer games can be popular enough to sustain a player base at any given time. Its somewhere in the triple digits across all platforms, which is plenty, but only a few dozen really take hold enough to persist there.
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Like, itll never be possible ever again for anyone to experience Halo 2 in 2004 like the people in 2004 did.

And if that happens to be someones equivalent to FFVII/OoT, thats kinda sad to think about.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

If the kids at church are an indication (and Im talking hundreds and hundreds of middle school and young high school), Fortnite is the it game for them. Its all they were talking about today.

Popularity of a game near launch is only the first part. Overwatch was the same way but overall perception of the game had been falling out of favor for various reasons. I dont think multi player focused game will ever really make the cut because of all the stuff outside of gameplay that has to be dealt With
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KokoroAkechi posted...

Popularity of a game near launch is only the first part

Fortnite battle royale has been out for almost a year. It only got popular recently because of some streamers. Everyone played PUBG before cuz they never heard of Fortnite.
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Skyrim and Dark Souls are the OoT/FF7 of this generation. GTA V and Minecraft too.

foolm0r0n posted...

Fortnite battle royale has been out for almost a year.

fortnite has been. FBR came out in september of last year.
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Actually Fortnite is still in early access so it's technically not even out yet!
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I have to agree with Minecraft. I have a server on the IRC network they use, and while it's dropped off a little, those channels are still nuts.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

FBR came out in september of last year.

That's what I mean by almost a year
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