Lurker > Dash_Harber

I expect a whole lot of;
"Free speech! No one should be fired for what they believe!"
"Oh, wait, he stood up to a white guy? Yeah, fair, next."

Because they have a ridiculous misunderstanding of race and history, and they have the most fragile sense of self that is threatened because they are so damn insecure about themselves.

SSJosHBK_Blue posted...

People make mistakes. The last three presidents all admitted to drug use

I must have missed the point where Obama admitted to doing blow with underage girls.

Flockaveli posted...

Something from deep in the ocean is gonna kill me?? Thats the worst it can do? I aint afraid of no little old death. The ocean is fascinating if anything.

Do you want Dagons? Because that's how we get Dagons.

Those two factions are incredibly unrealistic, and it just comes off as someone desperately trying to recreate the Cold War in a modern setting.

kayoticdreamz posted...

all I am saying is...why is it bad for whites to have white pride?

For multiple reasons;
- 'White' is not a race. You ever notice how no one bats an eye at 'Irish Pride' or 'Italian Pride'?
- Language doesn't exist in a vacuum. The term White Pride is so undeniably tied to White Power that it is almost impossible to separate the two.

As others said, white nationalism and white pride are technically different things.

kayoticdreamz posted...

you cannot just make the assumption that a person with white pride is going around lynching blacks and is a member of the KKK. thats not only discrimination(ironic really) but its incredibly racist to make that assumption too(more irony). thats like assuming all black people are illiterate thugs and gang members.

I've never heard that assumption before. However, again, white pride doesn't mean what you think it means.

kayoticdreamz posted...

so if anyone wants to answer that question without accusing said white person in this scenario of killing non-whites in their spare time, feel free to do so. you've already failed in your first attempt to answer that question.

I just answered it just fine. To recap;
- White isn't a race, it's a skin color.
- Historically, the term carries the exact connotations you listed.

GunmaN1905 posted...

There is no such thing as white nationalism.

You bloody americans can't even tell the difference between race and nationality.

The point is that white nationalism is a solid belief, it's that it actually does exist, precisely because of factors you just pointed out.

MakoReizei posted...

it's terrifying. the ocean's large enough to swallow all the land on earth

Yes, and if the atmosphere gave out, we would all instantly die, and if the sun went supernova we would be dead in seconds. There are countless natural phenomenon that technically have the potential to destroy us all, but you can't be afraid of every unlikely situation, especially when there is so much beauty to appreciate.

I find that amazing. I used to live in the middle of my country. I had never seen an ocean. I moved out to the coast and completely fell in love. The pulsing water back and forth. It's like the heartbeat of the world. It's almost overwhelming. The sheer magnitude of an entire interconnected ecosystem that spans the entire world and is teeming with symbiotic life and resources.

Really, it's absolutely beautiful in it's majesty.

Ulyanyx posted...

American born Jew

That's some thinly veiled Antisemitism right there.

Vindris_SNH posted...

He's not wrong about the media.

Yes he is, because the media is not a single, well-defined organization. It's the same as saying, "scientists" or "fireman". It's a description of the job, not the beliefs or actions of every single person in that industry.

More importantly, news is absolutely, 100% vital in democracy. Democracy can't exist without it.

TerrifyingRei posted...

as a diabetic it's one of my staples.

water being the other one.

As a fellow diabetic, I feel this. People are always like, "Oh, you drink that stuff? Juice/Tea/Frappachinos are sooooo much better for you!". No, actually, not if I want to avoid going into a coma.

The best I heard was, "oh, that stuff can degrade metal over time and clean blood off of cement". Yeah, so can lemon juice or vinegar. Hell, water will eat right through metal given enough time. Our stomach is equipped to handle things like that, otherwise we'd all die the first time we ate a lemon.

mario2000 posted...

UnholyMudcrab posted...

YourDrunkFather posted...

Maybe the worst part of any song ever

my radio station would edit it out

It wasn't your radio station. There is almost always a 'radio cut' of any song, and they drop things like that, long intros, bridges, etc.

darkstar4221 posted...

Shuto-uke posted...

Orthopox12 posted...

Russian culture also has a lot of respect

LMAO

Yeah they don't which was pretty evident during World Cup. Russian women were kissing and some of them I believe were ****ing foreign fans. And Russians dudes from the videos I've seen they seem no different than Americans. A lot of the dudes have rough personalities, and some of them have no class.

Yeah, people are people no matter where you go. Saying 'respect is part of the culture' is disingenuous and naive to begin with. Most cultures have some sort of idea of 'respect', but the problem is that how one interpret's respect is so radically different for every culture that it might as well be completely different concept. It basically just boils down to 'that country's conception of respect is most similar to our country's' when people say that.

Really, though, that's a minor difference and people are pretty much the same across the globe.

Zikten posted...

i'm just sick of people calling everyone racist or sexist whenever they don't like some movie or game. in today's world, it's impossible to just not like something. it's always cause they are bigots. it's never the fault of the makers of the games or comics or movies. nope. it's racists, man

Not that I'm disagreeing with you, but I'm equally tired of every criticism of any sort of controversial topic being written off as fascist SJW censorship.

PiOverlord posted...

Basically, today's method for journalism is to put all your haters in a category of sexists, racists, bigots, etc., so you can feel good about ignoring their criticisms, instead of fixing your own problems. For gaming journalism, GamerGate is the boogeyman that exists in all parts of the internet, as if it is Hydra, and all of your haters are a part of it.

The exact same argument could be made for the entirety of arguments against "SJWs", ironically.

I don't think so. Nothing racist or homophobic or sexist that I can think of. Really, though, I'm not in an industry based entirely on my public image, so that is an entirely different situation. If my job was literally to sell myself as a brand, I'd be more careful about what I say even when I think it's private.

Damn_Underscore posted...

GOG literally posted a Postal 2 gif - peeing on a headstone that said "games journalism"

That's it.

And one company pulled their support.

That's it.

I still don't mind it. It's generic and forgettable, but it's fun 'pump up music' that plays it safe. Nothing special, but nothing horrible, either. It's a shame they don't branch out more, since their covers demonstrate they actually do have some music potential.

Damn_Underscore posted...

brb going to live in solitude

If that's how you interpret GamerGate, please do.

Alpha218 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Anyone else notice a flood of pro-Russia propaganda the last few days? My aunt was posting some meme of how Putin shouldn't be considered a villain because he, "ran the Rothschilds out of Russia and banned GMOs" or some other thinly veiled conspiracy theory nonsense.

Normally I don't say anything, but it's getting telemarketer levels of annoying and I feel like they just exploit the fact that no one ever calls people out on spreading that shit for fear of being labelled impolite.

Do you use Reddit or Twitter? Whenever the president does anything even remotely controversial the propaganda starts flooding in. Its worse when even his own base is questioning, i.e. the initial reaction to net neutrality before they ate up the lies about how its bad for competition or some bullshit like that.

Now, its even more noticeable because you have people calling Helinski treasonous, Trump is walking his statements back and forth, and even Republicans in Congress are denouncing what happened when theyre usually deeply disturbed at best when he does something fucked up. So yes its expected that the Russian propaganda mechanism is in overdrive right now.

Yeah, I understand why it happened, I just wanted to know if anyone else had noticed.

And honestly, it's been a steady stream political gaffes so I'm surprised it's not in overdrive 24/7.

scar the 1 posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Here in the Pacific Northwest, this is our summer, every summer. Every, single, summer.

So hopefully you have infrastructure to deal with it. We don't. ATM we have planes coming from Italy to bombard the fires with water.

Well I'm in Metro-Van. There is some infrastructure, but there is only so much that can be done, especially when it's not a matter of 'if' there will be forest fires this summer, but when and how much.

Fam_Fam posted...

but how did they get addicted? a situation being tough does not excuse it, period.if you are forced, that's a different situation. but "life was hard" or "other people were doing it" is not a justification for drug use (or anything). it's a choice, and we shouldn't pity people when they have the freedom to make choices, and then go make bad ones.

Like I said, it's hard for people not in those sorts of situations to understand what drives someone to make a choice like that. Mental illness, crime, poverty, a history of abuse, violence, PTSD, becoming addicted through prescribed medications that are later cut off, extreme family issues, extreme life pressure. The list goes on and on, and it might seem like all of it boils down to 'life is hard', but most of us have been given a better chance and can't even imagine how bad life can get, so it's really naive for us to believe that it's always just a simple choice.

And again, there are situations where you are not forced, but still aren't really addicts faults. For example, the OxyContin crisis began because doctors were incentivized to prescribe highly addictive painkillers which warped the users brains and then cut them off, at which point the people were already addicted.

Technically, skin isn't leather unless it's treated so only some zombies would be in 'leather', specifically those exposed to conditions that would create leather (extreme dry heat and sun exposure).

DocileOrangeCup posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

They probably still are, but there isn't really a cure-all for addiction, sadly. It's not like they see it as wrong and do it because it's fun, it's an addiction and it alters their minds so that they see it as the only logical solution. It's like brainwashing.

they've done unforgivable things and even when sober are fucked up in the head, so i dont really know what to say about that.

I'm not arguing with you. Like the other guy, I don't know the situation. I'm just saying that even when they are sober, it's still there. It's insane to think about. Like, if they ever get clean and sober, they have to live with the shit they have done, which could easily cause a downward spiral and lead to another relapse, and the cycle continues. Can you imagine being trapped in that hell for the rest of your life?

Like, I suffer from some pretty severe depression. Sometimes, it alters my thinking like a little voice in the back of my head that twists how I see things and causes me to do things that just make things worse. I imagine addiction is a lot like that which is just a living hell. That doesn't excuse their behavior, but it at least makes it more understandable.

DocileOrangeCup posted...

yeah sort of, but like multiple times and with one of them it lead them to go right back to jail. i know it doesnt make them immune to being dumb but they were good people before all of this.

They probably still are, but there isn't really a cure-all for addiction, sadly. It's not like they see it as wrong and do it because it's fun, it's an addiction and it alters their minds so that they see it as the only logical solution. It's like brainwashing.

DocileOrangeCup posted...

BloodyNate posted...

i think the issue is that you're seeing addiction as a decision rather than a condition, my friend. i respectfully encourage you to look further into the issues surrounding addiction before passing such judgement.

at least in the case im talking about, they did it to fit in and because they were fuckin stupid. they were both clean for long amounts of time yet the minute they had the opportunity they did it again and hurt the most important person in their life multiple times, and once you do something like that then im sorry but i cant forgive it.

So it was a relapse situation? I only ask because you sort of make it sound like getting clean for a period of time means that you are 'cured' and any future issues are just them making a stupid choice again.

Besides the fact that it would cause an international fallout, Hong Kong's independence is actually really beneficial to them. It exists outside of their normal framework, allowing them to funnel money and goods in and out of the country through a controlled port without compromising their authoritarian government. It's not like it threatens them in any way, and I imagine it makes them killa skrilla.

Rimmer_Dall posted...

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Rimmer_Dall posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Here in the Pacific Northwest, this is our summer, every summer. Every, single, summer.

Yeah, but you guys have AC. We don't.

I don't, actually. I have two Walmart Special fans in my windows and it does nothing to combat the humidity. They just blow around the warm, humid air.

So your whataboutism didn't land so you are now trying to distract from the topic at hand by starting a fight over 'he said/she said'?

Wut?

Sorry, that was supposed to post in another topic. Must have got my lines crossed. Sorry.

UnholyMudcrab posted...

I go through cycles where I read a book every couple weeks for a couple months, and then don't read anything for a few months afterward

I'm the same. I also tend to split my time between history books, classics, and pulpy fantasy/scifi.

Dash_Harber posted...

Rimmer_Dall posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Here in the Pacific Northwest, this is our summer, every summer. Every, single, summer.

Yeah, but you guys have AC. We don't.

I don't, actually. I have two Walmart Special fans in my windows and it does nothing to combat the humidity. They just blow around the warm, humid air.

So your whataboutism didn't land so you are now trying to distract from the topic at hand by starting a fight over 'he said/she said'?

Rimmer_Dall posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Here in the Pacific Northwest, this is our summer, every summer. Every, single, summer.

Yeah, but you guys have AC. We don't.

I don't, actually. I have two Walmart Special fans in my windows and it does nothing to combat the humidity. They just blow around the warm, humid air.

Irony posted...

It's a self inflicted disease in most cases

Like others have said, that doesn't really matter.

Realistically, though, that is not always the case. Not only are some people born into the harshest conditions where drug use is (often violently) encouraged, but some people are forced into drugs through sex slavery. You also have to recognize that desperate people do desperate things, and even though it seems stupid to you, you don't really know what they are going through or what lead them to that situation. On top of that, you also have people who are prescribed addictive medications that lead them to addiction.

A lot of the time, it's horrible circumstances that leads to addiction, and though you may lack basic human empathy, you have to logically realize that you, too, are part of the society that enables that sort of circumstances that lead to addiction and crime.

I'd say false overall, because there are very, very different power structures throughout history and across the world, and not all of them have forms of censorship (and, IIRC, some even encourage criticism). However, if you fall into one of the more authoritarian countries, this is probably a great rule of thumb.

Here in the Pacific Northwest, this is our summer, every summer. Every, single, summer.

SaccharineSmile posted...

Why should they give back to society?

Because most of the time they exploit society so they can make money so they can spend a portion of that money manipulating society more so that they can further exploit society.

iClockwork posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

Like, the man has been behind assassinations, murder, human rights violations, espionage, instigating uprisings

We talking about Obama?

That's a whataboutism. Is that your only defense of Putin? That there are other bad people out there?

Monolith1676 posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

I'm reading more about it still. She 100% sounds like someone who made a bunch of poor life decisions and is trying to blame her parents. Her girlfriend is doing the same thing and blaming her own parents as to why she's living under these conditions. I wouldn't doubt that they're both using.

Seems to be the case. If @Dash_Harber and @Fahren would quit arguing over crap and read your posts, they would have the answer.

Fair enough. You are right, I don't know enough to make a judgement either way and was mostly basing it off the fact that he's known for some other iffy stuff. My mistake.

Don't need to @ me, though.

creativeme posted...

is it as bad as people say? i skipped it. i played sun and beat like 75% of the game and just quit due to being busy working 70 hours a week and had no life for awhile. did the same with black 2. just got boring since it was too similar to black.

i'll probably buy ultra sun eventually just to give it a try.

If you really liked S/M, it's worth it just to revisit it, but it's definitely not going to add enough for you to feel like it's a new game. It's not even like B2/W2 where there is a new game. It's the exact same game again.

Fahren posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

And stop saying, "playing the gay card". Gay people face more barriers than benefits and saying that just makes it seem like you are pushing some 'gay agenda' bullshit.

That's awesome good for them but none of what she's facing is because she's gay so it's irrelevant if she is or not. There's no proof he's a homophobe, no proof he doesn't talk to her because of her sexuality, and she hasn't mentioned anything about it until two and a half months ago. Seems a bit strange that all of the sudden her estranged father is suddenly a homophobe and won't save her when she's homeless.

Again, either way, he's a jerk for abandoning her, regardless of his reason.

And I don't see why you seem to think that she had to have it on record at some arbitrary point earlier, or why you make a huge point about how we don't have all the facts, and then make a ton of assumptions about her. It sounds like you are just bias against her in the first place.

Fahren posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

First, we aren't saying that, but it makes it sort of strange that he refuses to comment and the only one saying anything is the daughter. Second, he's actually already looked at a bit skeptically because of his politics and so it's not like this is the only questionable thing about him.

Either way, though, directing it as a response to my quote, where I was just pointing out that it was stated, is fucking misguided.

It doesn't make it strange. He wants and has never wanted anything to do with her because she was a mistake from an affair. She could say anything she wanted but that wouldn't mean Jackie would have to deny it or else it's true. Her playing the gay card is just her trying to rouse sympathy or else she would've mentioned it in the many years before this May.

That's honestly just as scummy.

And stop saying, "playing the gay card". Gay people face more barriers than benefits and saying that just makes it seem like you are pushing some 'gay agenda' bullshit.

I'm not American, so I never experienced it, but I think there is a fine line between pride and arrogance, and while the former is important to a culture, the latter is actually a solid detriment that leads to a society that is unable to learn or grow and inevitably stagnates and dies.

dolomedes posted...

they do make amazing pets.

http://klimp.dk/glown/sroom13c.jpg

That's why I said 'like other animals'. I know people do have them as pets, but I don't believe they can be trained or bonded with the same way as, say, a cat or a dog.

Fahren posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

I didn't say it was the only reason, I said that is the only explaination either side has stated. Calm the fuck down. Why do you want her to be homeless so badly? Are you like a huge Chan fan?

I don't give a fuck either way but to paint Jackie as a huge homophobic asshole just because his daughter, who he never had a single thing to do with past her birth, said he didn't talk to her because she's gay is fucked up.

First, we aren't saying that, but it makes it sort of strange that he refuses to comment and the only one saying anything is the daughter. Second, he's actually already looked at a bit skeptically because of his politics and so it's not like this is the only questionable thing about him.

Either way, though, directing it as a response to my quote, where I was just pointing out that it was stated, is fucking misguided.

Aye posted...

they're now defending Putin

This creeps me out lately. Like, the desperation. I saw one meme saying that Putin shouldn't be an enemy because he 'banned GMOs' (haha, pseudo-science bullshit) 'ran the Rothschild family out of Russia' (coughantisemitism2.0cough), and 'created a coin that could compete with the dollar' (lol, what?). It's fucking weird seeing this shit on my Facebook wall in 2018. Like, the man has been behind assassinations, murder, human rights violations, espionage, instigating uprisings, (all but) criminalizing homosexuality, and turning Russia into a Mafia State, and people are willing to shill for him just to avoid having to say they made a mistake?

Fahren posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

IIRC, she outright said that her family refuses to talk to her because of her sexuality.

what an unbiased source that one is

oh wow even better it looks like she's just used the "he doesn't like me cause I'm gay" schtick for sympathy

I didn't say it was the only reason, I said that is the only explaination either side has stated. Calm the fuck down. Why do you want her to be homeless so badly? Are you like a huge Chan fan?

They'd make amazing pets if they could be domesticated like some other animals. I get that they look 'weird', but they are an absolute godsend for most people.

It's like that with most 'weird' animals though; Crows and Ravens are super intelligent and even wild ones can bring gifts to people they like (not to mention they mean less dead animal carcasses around). Snakes are reviled by people, but eat disease carrying vermin and generally make a massive effort to avoid humans.

I've always felt a ton of sympathy for creatures like that.

Guerrilla Soldier posted...

Zikten posted...

anyway I think the main reason he wont' help or talk to her is her lesbianness

"anyway i dont know anything but i made this up and it's now my motivation to hate"

IIRC, she outright said that her family refuses to talk to her because of her sexuality.

What the literal fuck. Like ... there isn't even a joke here. This is just insane. Like ... what's next? Opening the American bureau of the new KGB?