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Sativa_Rose
07/18/18 5:02:31 PM
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Which Faction should rule the world? - Results (33 votes)
Western Faction: US, NATO, Japan, South Korea, Israel, Saudi, India, Colombia, Philippines, etc.
84.85% (28 votes)
28
Eastern Faction: Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Syria (Assad), Lebanon, Houthis, Venezuela, etc.
15.15% (5 votes)
5
Two factions are competing to rule the world, if you haven't realized it. I have come to realize this over the past year. We are in an age where empires are still vying for domination of the globe. Right now there are two major alliances that are forming.

On the one hand you have the Western Faction, led by the US and leading NATO members, which also contains other Western allies around the world. Every country you can think of that values democracy and human rights would end up in this faction, but not every single country in this faction is that way (Israel, Saudi Arabia to mention a few..)

Then there is the Eastern Faction, led by Russia and China. It also contains a few more allies like Iran, North Korea, Lebanon (Hezbollah), Assad's Syria, the Houthis in North Yemen, and possibly Venezuela.

There are many countries still up for grabs in Central Asia. Latin America will be mostly isolated from this, but as for Sub-Saharan Africa, who knows.

Also I should add there are a few countries out there that are wildcards: Turkey, Pakistan, and Qatar all come to mind.

Which faction would you be comfortable with dominating the future of the globe?
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MorbidFaithless
07/18/18 5:04:44 PM
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I just wish we could get over this shit already and have a one world government.
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glitteringfairy
07/18/18 5:04:55 PM
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Whichever one terminates liberalism
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ScytheDark
07/18/18 5:04:56 PM
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Obviously Japan should win.........
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EliteLevel
07/18/18 5:05:01 PM
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Whichever one has the hotter pale skinned women.
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thelastgooduser
07/18/18 5:05:12 PM
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This is an incredibly simplistic and inaccurate view of global politics.
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Duncanwii
07/18/18 5:05:16 PM
#7:


Which side executes gays, discriminates against woman and minorities, and have overall terrible human rights records? Hint, it isn't the first group.
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Sativa_Rose
07/18/18 5:05:59 PM
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MorbidFaithless posted...
I just wish we could get over this shit already and have a one world government.


One world government would be terrible. You would have no escape if that government was shitty. I prefer having a lot of different nation states. It's just better if one faction dominates all the others, which would prevent any major conflicts from breaking out. Two rival factions of equal strength would be the worst scenario.
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EliteLevel
07/18/18 5:06:23 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Which side executes gays, discriminates against woman and minorities, and have overall terrible human rights records? Hint, it isn't the first group.


Fail.
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Samurontai
07/18/18 5:06:23 PM
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Technically America is part of the eastern faction, being as the president hates NATO, the EU, and loves Russia
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glitteringfairy
07/18/18 5:07:05 PM
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Samurontai posted...
Technically America is part of the eastern faction, being as the president hates NATO, the EU, and loves Russia

There it is
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Sativa_Rose
07/18/18 5:07:06 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Which side executes gays, discriminates against woman and minorities, and have overall terrible human rights records? Hint, it isn't the first group.


The Saudis do that too, but we look the other way because we need them as a strategic ally in a volatile region, especially given their proximity and opposition to Iran. They are Iran's main regional rival.
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thelastgooduser
07/18/18 5:08:52 PM
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How are the Saudis a real ally of the western world when they inspired, educated, funded and armed Al Qaeda and now ISIS?
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Samurontai
07/18/18 5:09:08 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Samurontai posted...
Technically America is part of the eastern faction, being as the president hates NATO, the EU, and loves Russia

There it is


glitteringfairy posted...
Whichever one terminates liberalism


Lmao, ok
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Shotgunnova
07/18/18 5:10:38 PM
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Other: Brotherhood of Steel
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LethalAffinity
07/18/18 5:11:15 PM
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MorbidFaithless posted...
I just wish we could get over this shit already and have a one world government.


Please be joking
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Squidkids
07/18/18 5:11:19 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
I just wish we could get over this shit already and have a one world government.


One world government would be terrible. You would have no escape if that government was shitty. I prefer having a lot of different nation states. It's just better if one faction dominates all the others, which would prevent any major conflicts from breaking out. Two rival factions of equal strength would be the worst scenario.

and you can have this in a world government.. think of how US has city>county > state> country, now you are just adding world on top of that chain.
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Samurontai
07/18/18 5:12:10 PM
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LethalAffinity posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
I just wish we could get over this shit already and have a one world government.


Please be joking


It is a better alternative... but obviously not anytime soon
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LethalAffinity
07/18/18 5:13:52 PM
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EliteLevel
07/18/18 5:13:53 PM
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MorbidFaithless posted...
I just wish we could get over this shit already and have a one world government.


Ruled by Overlord Trump.
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Croutonman
07/18/18 5:17:05 PM
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Shotgunnova posted...
Other: Brotherhood of Nod


FTFY...
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Sativa_Rose
07/18/18 5:17:23 PM
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thelastgooduser posted...
How are the Saudis a real ally of the western world when they inspired, educated, funded and armed Al Qaeda and now ISIS?


That wasn't the Saudi regime. If you don't believe me, understand that one of the goals of Al Qaeda was to overthrow the Saudi monarchy. Bin Laden was pissed at the Saudi Monarchy for using US troops to defend its borders during the Gulf War, and the monarchy exiled him for complaining about it.

It is a misconception that the Saudi regime is behind these groups. There are wealthy Saudis funding that stuff (like Bin Laden himself when he was alive) but not with the permission of the monarchy.
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EliteLevel
07/18/18 5:19:18 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
thelastgooduser posted...
How are the Saudis a real ally of the western world when they inspired, educated, funded and armed Al Qaeda and now ISIS?


That wasn't the Saudi regime. If you don't believe me, understand that one of the goals of Al Qaeda was to overthrow the Saudi monarchy. Bin Laden was pissed at the Saudi Monarchy for using US troops to defend its borders during the Gulf War, and the monarchy exiled him for complaining about it.

It is a misconception that the Saudi regime is behind these groups. There are wealthy Saudis funding that stuff (like Bin Laden himself when he was alive) but not with the permission of the monarchy.


Lol.
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MorbidFaithless
07/18/18 5:20:41 PM
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LethalAffinity posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
I just wish we could get over this shit already and have a one world government.


Please be joking

Obviously I'm being terribly optimistic of the outcome of such a government. Star Trek did it why can't we :(
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Sativa_Rose
07/19/18 5:02:19 PM
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MorbidFaithless posted...
LethalAffinity posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
I just wish we could get over this shit already and have a one world government.


Please be joking

Obviously I'm being terribly optimistic of the outcome of such a government. Star Trek did it why can't we :(


Was there one government for the whole universe or just Planet Earth?
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MorbidFaithless
07/19/18 9:16:01 PM
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Sativa_Rose posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
LethalAffinity posted...
MorbidFaithless posted...
I just wish we could get over this shit already and have a one world government.


Please be joking

Obviously I'm being terribly optimistic of the outcome of such a government. Star Trek did it why can't we :(


Was there one government for the whole universe or just Planet Earth?

Well there is a federation of planets so I assume the earth United first and then the the federation of planets
formed sometime after

Although each planet is still in charge of itself with it's own government I think...
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DavidWong
07/19/18 9:19:13 PM
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thelastgooduser posted...
How are the Saudis a real ally of the western world when they inspired, educated, funded and armed Al Qaeda and now ISIS?


the US actually funded and provided support to the Taliban. They provided weapons to Afghanis who were resisting the Soviets.
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UnholyMudcrab
07/19/18 9:20:18 PM
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Sativa_Rose
07/20/18 6:20:27 AM
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DavidWong posted...
thelastgooduser posted...
How are the Saudis a real ally of the western world when they inspired, educated, funded and armed Al Qaeda and now ISIS?


the US actually funded and provided support to the Taliban. They provided weapons to Afghanis who were resisting the Soviets.


A decision that Jimmy Carter still defends to this day. I agree with him.

I'm not an expert on the War in Afghanistan or anything, but I've read articles that indicate our real problem there is that we can't stop Pakistan from sheltering the Pakistani Taliban and other jihadist groups that then provide support to the Afghan Taliban. It's not like we are still struggling against the exact same guys we armed 30 years ago. Most of those guys are probably dead or retired. Maybe some are in leadership positions, but still, the real issue is the support they are getting in the present day, not 30 years ago.
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Dash_Harber
07/20/18 6:26:30 AM
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Those two factions are incredibly unrealistic, and it just comes off as someone desperately trying to recreate the Cold War in a modern setting.
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Sativa_Rose
07/20/18 6:34:04 AM
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This is a super long video, but I listened to this presentation before I made this topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK7fhSn5AGo" data-time="&start=5914


He starts speaking at 5:40
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Turbam
07/20/18 6:35:52 AM
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The Protoss
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Sativa_Rose
07/20/18 6:53:52 PM
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Turbam posted...
The Protoss


It's more likely to be the Zerg at this point, sadly.
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