Current Events > Jackie Chan seems cool in all his classic movies and like a nice guy but

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it kinda changes how you feel about the man when you find out he has an estranged lesbian homeless daughter that he refuses to speak to or help. imagine if your dad is an international movie star.... and you are homeless

anyway I think the main reason he wont' help or talk to her is her lesbianness

most homeless people are drug addicts
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Philoktetes posted...

most homeless people are drug addicts

False and irrelevant.

I mean yeah I read about how certain actors are dicks IRL but I can separate that from what they do on-screen.
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Philoktetes posted...

most homeless people are drug addicts

That makes two of his kids!
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Yeah... it's really disappointing. For years, I would watch anything Jackie starred in, now I just can't bring myself to do it.
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I don't think she's on drugs. I think she got kicked out of the house for being a lesbian. that's the impression I got when I heard the story

It's crappy of him but not enough for me to not enjoy his movies. I like too many of them. Rush Hour, Drunken Master, Rumble in the Bronx, Fearless Hyena...
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Yeah his actual son is a piece of crap, but the way he treats his daughter is sickening. I separate the artist from their work though, if they're good at what they're doing than I'll continue to support them for doing said things.

Philoktetes posted...

most homeless people are drug addicts

Semi-right, but the majority of homeless people are people with mental illness that unfortunately lead to other things like drug addiction or people that don't want to seek medical help for their said mental illness, hence why you see a larger homeless male population than female.
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He's also a shill for the Chinese communists and bashes the USA
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shokan_warrior posted...

He's also a shill for the Chinese communists and bashes the USA

yea. I haven't really paid attention to his politics much. but I do remember when CHina had the olympics, he sang a patriotic song I think at the opening ceremony .

smoke_break posted...

It's crappy of him but not enough for me to not enjoy his movies.

Prestoff posted...

I separate the artist from their work though

Muffinz0rz posted...

I mean yeah I read about how certain actors are dicks IRL but I can separate that from what they do on-screen.

So you guys would watch Rurouni Kenshin even though the creator got caught with teenage porn in his office?
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he IS a good singer actually

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6IYt2qMj1A" data-time="

that's Be A Man in Mandarin. he also did a version in Cantonese

Kisai posted...

smoke_break posted...

It's crappy of him but not enough for me to not enjoy his movies.

Prestoff posted...

I separate the artist from their work though

Muffinz0rz posted...

I mean yeah I read about how certain actors are dicks IRL but I can separate that from what they do on-screen.

So you guys would watch Rurouni Kenshin even though the creator got caught with teenage porn in his office?

The art is not the artist
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Never meet your heroes.
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Kisai posted...

smoke_break posted...

It's crappy of him but not enough for me to not enjoy his movies.

Prestoff posted...

I separate the artist from their work though

Muffinz0rz posted...

I mean yeah I read about how certain actors are dicks IRL but I can separate that from what they do on-screen.

So you guys would watch Rurouni Kenshin even though the creator got caught with teenage porn in his office?

I wouldn't watch that even if he was a saint.
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or wait sorry. I'll Make a Man out of You

facepalm to myself

Zikten posted...

shokan_warrior posted...

He's also a shill for the Chinese communists and bashes the USA

yea. I haven't really paid attention to his politics much. but I do remember when CHina had the olympics, he sang a patriotic song I think at the opening ceremony .

That's a bad example of him being a shill for the Chinese government. That's like saying a hollywood star is a shill for the American government when they sing the American Anthem.

The better example would be when he said this: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/chinese-shouldnt-get-more-freedom-says-jackie-chan-1671337.html

"I'm not sure if it's good to have freedom or not. I'm really confused now. If you're too free, you're like the way Hong Kong is now. It's very chaotic. Taiwan is also chaotic,"...

"I'm gradually beginning to feel that we Chinese need to be controlled. If we're not being controlled, we'll just do what we want," he said.

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He never knew her and she's apparently a meth head. She doesn't consider him a father and never will.

Sure, he could try and help out, but it still seems unfair to shit on him and try to act like it's only because she's gay.
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I'm sure we know the full story.
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although I may disagree with some of jack e chan's political views, I respect his differences
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Prestoff posted...

Yeah his actual son is a piece of crap, but the way he treats his daughter is sickening. I separate the artist from their work though, if they're good at what they're doing than I'll continue to support them for doing said things.

Philoktetes posted...

most homeless people are drug addicts

Semi-right, but the majority of homeless people are people with mental illness that unfortunately lead to other things like drug addiction or people that don't want to seek medical help for their said mental illness, hence why you see a larger homeless male population than female.

He had an affair and the kid was born. From what I have read he has never been in her life and the only comment I found from him is "if she likes it that is fine." She never lived with him and had nothing to do with her being homeless.
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Kisai posted...

smoke_break posted...

It's crappy of him but not enough for me to not enjoy his movies.

Prestoff posted...

I separate the artist from their work though

Muffinz0rz posted...

I mean yeah I read about how certain actors are dicks IRL but I can separate that from what they do on-screen.

So you guys would watch Rurouni Kenshin even though the creator got caught with teenage porn in his office?

Most pop and rock stars have fucked minors and countless Hollywood producers and actors have to been shown to have committed sexual assaults. And who knows how many of the smaller guys have done worse. Do you just not listen to music or watch movies?

rock stars and hollywood producers are degenerates
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He's not quite Mel Gibson levels of backwards, disappointing evil, but he's up there.

Zikten posted...

anyway I think the main reason he wont' help or talk to her is her lesbianness

"anyway i dont know anything but i made this up and it's now my motivation to hate"
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Guerrilla Soldier posted...

Zikten posted...

anyway I think the main reason he wont' help or talk to her is her lesbianness

"anyway i dont know anything but i made this up and it's now my motivation to hate"

IIRC, she outright said that her family refuses to talk to her because of her sexuality.

Dash_Harber posted...

IIRC, she outright said that her family refuses to talk to her because of her sexuality.

what an unbiased source that one is

oh wow even better it looks like she's just used the "he doesn't like me cause I'm gay" schtick for sympathy

Monolith1676 posted...

He had an affair and the kid was born. From what I have read he has never been in her life and the only comment I found from him is "if she likes it that is fine." She never lived with him and had nothing to do with her being homeless.

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Fahren posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

IIRC, she outright said that her family refuses to talk to her because of her sexuality.

what an unbiased source that one is

oh wow even better it looks like she's just used the "he doesn't like me cause I'm gay" schtick for sympathy

I didn't say it was the only reason, I said that is the only explaination either side has stated. Calm the fuck down. Why do you want her to be homeless so badly? Are you like a huge Chan fan?

Hasn't he never been in her life to begin with?

Seems a bit unfair to blame him for her actual family kicking her out (which, yes, is awful still if they did it because she's gay)
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I just looked up her story. When she was 15 she said she wanted nothing to do with Jackie in an interview and says that he is not her dad, then she dropped out of high school, moved to Canada with her 30 year old "social media influencer" girlfriend where they sleep in tunnels sometimes, and blames her "drunkard" mother on her dropping out and says that her parents are homophobes, blames Jackie for not being there. She doesn't seem all that great tbh.
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Dash_Harber posted...

I didn't say it was the only reason, I said that is the only explaination either side has stated. Calm the fuck down. Why do you want her to be homeless so badly? Are you like a huge Chan fan?

I don't give a fuck either way but to paint Jackie as a huge homophobic asshole just because his daughter, who he never had a single thing to do with past her birth, said he didn't talk to her because she's gay is fucked up.

Fahren posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

I didn't say it was the only reason, I said that is the only explaination either side has stated. Calm the fuck down. Why do you want her to be homeless so badly? Are you like a huge Chan fan?

I don't give a fuck either way but to paint Jackie as a huge homophobic asshole just because his daughter, who he never had a single thing to do with past her birth, said he didn't talk to her because she's gay is fucked up.

First, we aren't saying that, but it makes it sort of strange that he refuses to comment and the only one saying anything is the daughter. Second, he's actually already looked at a bit skeptically because of his politics and so it's not like this is the only questionable thing about him.

Either way, though, directing it as a response to my quote, where I was just pointing out that it was stated, is fucking misguided.

Dash_Harber posted...

First, we aren't saying that, but it makes it sort of strange that he refuses to comment and the only one saying anything is the daughter. Second, he's actually already looked at a bit skeptically because of his politics and so it's not like this is the only questionable thing about him.

Either way, though, directing it as a response to my quote, where I was just pointing out that it was stated, is fucking misguided.

It doesn't make it strange. He wants and has never wanted anything to do with her because she was a mistake from an affair. She could say anything she wanted but that wouldn't mean Jackie would have to deny it or else it's true. Her playing the gay card is just her trying to rouse sympathy or else she would've mentioned it in the many years before this May.

Smashingpmkns posted...

I just looked up her story. When she was 15 she said she wanted nothing to do with Jackie in an interview and says that he is not her dad, then she dropped out of high school, moved to Canada with her 30 year old "social media influencer" girlfriend where they sleep in tunnels sometimes, and blames her "drunkard" mother on her dropping out and says that her parents are homophobes, blames Jackie for not being there. She doesn't seem all that great tbh.

This.
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Fahren posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

First, we aren't saying that, but it makes it sort of strange that he refuses to comment and the only one saying anything is the daughter. Second, he's actually already looked at a bit skeptically because of his politics and so it's not like this is the only questionable thing about him.

Either way, though, directing it as a response to my quote, where I was just pointing out that it was stated, is fucking misguided.

It doesn't make it strange. He wants and has never wanted anything to do with her because she was a mistake from an affair. She could say anything she wanted but that wouldn't mean Jackie would have to deny it or else it's true. Her playing the gay card is just her trying to rouse sympathy or else she would've mentioned it in the many years before this May.

That's honestly just as scummy.

And stop saying, "playing the gay card". Gay people face more barriers than benefits and saying that just makes it seem like you are pushing some 'gay agenda' bullshit.

Dash_Harber posted...

And stop saying, "playing the gay card". Gay people face more barriers than benefits and saying that just makes it seem like you are pushing some 'gay agenda' bullshit.

That's awesome good for them but none of what she's facing is because she's gay so it's irrelevant if she is or not. There's no proof he's a homophobe, no proof he doesn't talk to her because of her sexuality, and she hasn't mentioned anything about it until two and a half months ago. Seems a bit strange that all of the sudden her estranged father is suddenly a homophobe and won't save her when she's homeless.

Pics of lesbian daughter
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Fahren posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

And stop saying, "playing the gay card". Gay people face more barriers than benefits and saying that just makes it seem like you are pushing some 'gay agenda' bullshit.

That's awesome good for them but none of what she's facing is because she's gay so it's irrelevant if she is or not. There's no proof he's a homophobe, no proof he doesn't talk to her because of her sexuality, and she hasn't mentioned anything about it until two and a half months ago. Seems a bit strange that all of the sudden her estranged father is suddenly a homophobe and won't save her when she's homeless.

Again, either way, he's a jerk for abandoning her, regardless of his reason.

And I don't see why you seem to think that she had to have it on record at some arbitrary point earlier, or why you make a huge point about how we don't have all the facts, and then make a ton of assumptions about her. It sounds like you are just bias against her in the first place.

I'm reading more about it still. She 100% sounds like someone who made a bunch of poor life decisions and is trying to blame her parents. Her girlfriend is doing the same thing and blaming her own parents as to why she's living under these conditions. I wouldn't doubt that they're both using.
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Dash_Harber posted...

Again, either way, he's a jerk for abandoning her, regardless of his reason.

And I don't see why you seem to think that she had to have it on record at some arbitrary point earlier, or why you make a huge point about how we don't have all the facts, and then make a ton of assumptions about her. It sounds like you are just bias against her in the first place.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2017/10/26/jackie-chan-had-just-six-words-to-say-about-his-teenage-daughter-coming-out-as-gay/

Fine there's your facts. He didn't know she was gay until half a year ago. Maybe he was on the brink of coming back into her life until that point? Or maybe he never gave a fuck in the first place.

So yeah, she's just saying it's because she's gay to garner sympathy.

Dash_Harber posted...

Fahren posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

And stop saying, "playing the gay card". Gay people face more barriers than benefits and saying that just makes it seem like you are pushing some 'gay agenda' bullshit.

That's awesome good for them but none of what she's facing is because she's gay so it's irrelevant if she is or not. There's no proof he's a homophobe, no proof he doesn't talk to her because of her sexuality, and she hasn't mentioned anything about it until two and a half months ago. Seems a bit strange that all of the sudden her estranged father is suddenly a homophobe and won't save her when she's homeless.

Again, either way, he's a jerk for abandoning her, regardless of his reason.

And I don't see why you seem to think that she had to have it on record at some arbitrary point earlier, or why you make a huge point about how we don't have all the facts, and then make a ton of assumptions about her. It sounds like you are just bias against her in the first place.

She publicly disowned him at 15 (3 years ago) even after her mother approved of her to go visit him if she wanted.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

I'm reading more about it still. She 100% sounds like someone who made a bunch of poor life decisions and is trying to blame her parents. Her girlfriend is doing the same thing and blaming her own parents as to why she's living under these conditions. I wouldn't doubt that they're both using.

Seems to be the case. If @Dash_Harber and @Fahren would quit arguing over crap and read your posts, they would have the answer.
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Jackie Chan "bashed" USA only in that when he did the Rush Hour movies, he noticed that a great majority of the Americans were extremely lazy while he was out there going the extra mile and urging people to retake any scenes that wasn't good. So he had an impression that Americans were lazy while the Chinese got things done, considering just how many fucking movies he churned out back in the days.

Honestly, we'll never truly understand people that come from different backgrounds. It's difficult to call them backwards when they probably think we're backwards
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Monolith1676 posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

I'm reading more about it still. She 100% sounds like someone who made a bunch of poor life decisions and is trying to blame her parents. Her girlfriend is doing the same thing and blaming her own parents as to why she's living under these conditions. I wouldn't doubt that they're both using.

Seems to be the case. If @Dash_Harber and @Fahren would quit arguing over crap and read your posts, they would have the answer.

Fair enough. You are right, I don't know enough to make a judgement either way and was mostly basing it off the fact that he's known for some other iffy stuff. My mistake.

Don't need to @ me, though.

Dash_Harber posted...

Monolith1676 posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

I'm reading more about it still. She 100% sounds like someone who made a bunch of poor life decisions and is trying to blame her parents. Her girlfriend is doing the same thing and blaming her own parents as to why she's living under these conditions. I wouldn't doubt that they're both using.

Seems to be the case. If Dash_Harber and Fahren would quit arguing over crap and read your posts, they would have the answer.

Fair enough. You are right, I don't know enough to make a judgement either way and was mostly basing it off the fact that he's known for some other iffy stuff. My mistake.

Don't need to @ me, though.

You both blasted past his first post explaining the situation. So had to draw attention.
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Ki_cat_ posted...

I'm sure we know the full story.

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awesome999 posted...

Ki_cat_ posted...

I'm sure we know the full story.

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