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5 > 9 > 2 > 4 > the rest btw

2 and 9 both really good imo what with the good boy (Mabosstiff) and Kingambit in one, and T-Tar & Houndoom in the other.

Gen V again

Supreme generation

Tickets

My instinct is that FF7R1 is better because I liked the setting so much, the focus, and it kind of delivers on moment after moment (and makes a few of its own like the Jenova fight). But it's also padded out a lot, like the drum section. I still have a long way to go on this one though.

FFDragon posted...

XIII's stance here now makes sense why I got modded for sincerely telling lms to seek help.

Generally using mental illness is seen as moddable (we mod using Trump Derangement Syndrome as an insult for example). And to be honest with you, saying "seek help" and nothing else in response to a topic about star wars or whatever it was doesn't really scream sincerity - it's the kind of thing usually said to insult or annoy someone.

Like right at the start of FF7 Remake Cloud says to Barret "get help" knowing it would piss him off. It wasn't a severe suggestion that Barret see a therapist. It's a pretty common way of antagonising people. I get why you might think it but that post doesn't really come off in that "sincere" way.

CassandraCain posted...

I don't believe this could possibly be true. He's been told millions of times that no one cares, so he's either not reading anyone else's posts or he's playing up a gimmick, both of which is troll behavior. Probably sitting there reading this topic laughing at all of us.

I have a mountain of PMs from the guy that make this appear to be very much not the case

Like there are some differences in his posts over time as I said in the last post.

Also sorry Leon but I'm not sure how "he's unaware that we're insulting him so it's fine to continue mocking him to his face" is a good look

Emeraldegg posted...

At some point the burden is on the individual to realize their posts aren't wanted, even if they believe they have value. No one else does, it's not bullying to tell them so imo. But we're also past the point of "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?" like telling him his posts suck at this point to his face isn't gonna do anything, so I get why you think it's bullying. I don't though, he knows what he's doing.

There was the odd sign that he listened to the posts, but it was all coming through an LMS filter. Like he'd go from referencing youtube randos to like "yeah sorry to mention another 'youtube rando' BUT this thing they said is bad because...". He's unable to move off that topic but showed at least some evidence that he was trying to make his posts fit the audience a bit more. Granted it was wildly unsuccessful and the posts were still all over the place but his posts aren't one completely homogenous blob - there was a kind of progression.

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Guy who knowingly shits up every topic he gets into with nonsense gets told to shut up when he does just that.

There's a place in hell for everyone who has contributed to this cruel bullying.

Well firstly I don't think he's "knowingly" shitting up anything. He believes his posts have value and are relevant.

What is or isn't bullying is a fairly subjective line. I can't tell you what point I became comfortable with calling the responses to LMS that, but to me it has to be sustained so it would have been after months or years. What do you think would have to be happening for that to be a word you'd be comfortable using?

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

Edit: And even then, when people ignore him, he just keeps posting anyway. What does it matter to you or anyone else if they just tell him to shut up? Everyone here is an adult, and none of this supposed bullying is even anything intense or harsh.

Because it is sustained over years. I wouldn't have an issue if it was one or two of his topics or posts, but with LMS it is every topic or post. The harshness is more in the repetition and in the number of people doing it.

I didn't compare levels (ertyu did worse stuff for a longer period, of course the response was more aggressive), just that it is bullying in both cases.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Telling people their actions are unwanted is how you get them to stop (or, well, you punch the daylights out of them if they don't take the hint/escalate legally/whatever else is the next step from 'stop'). If gamefaqs modding policy was sensible there would be a 'report for inappropriate content' option and we'd just use that en masse, but we don't have that so telling him 'you're stupid, shut up' is what we got.

OK then keep doing it, but it isn't having any real effect and unlike those other situations, you can pretend he doesn't exist quite easily. Like I said, after a certain point telling him to shut up stops being something done out of a realistic hope for a change in his behaviour and starts being about relieving personal frustration (or even enjoyment).

This has been a far better game than SM2 for me because - despite cringing in the cutscenes more than in SM2 - it has a sense of forward propulsion to it. I like that it's "open world" but it feels like an ongoing journey forward into something new and exciting. And when I want a break from that and to just sit in what I've found so far, I fast travel back to Junon etc and hit the stuff I've missed. And yeah, the minigames are charming and I mostly like them.

LMS would absolutely continue if people stopped engaging him yes. He's quite clearly not driven by like, dialogue.

Leonhart4 posted...

Calling people out for bad posts isn't always bullying, no. I know your philosophy is always "just ignore it," which I'd argue isn't always the best policy.

In LMS's case, it actually works because he doesn't pay attention to anyone anyway, but I'd argue he's the exception.

Like if your goal is to make us all realize we were the bad guys all along, sorry, that's not gonna happen.

Nah this is different to like MWC or whoever because they were deliberately and offensively provocative and attacking him was playing into his hands, and I don't get why you would ever want to do that

It comes down to the same thing - don't respond - but MWC and his ilk deliberately provoked attacks, while LMS is definitely not doing that. He's just posting his youtuber word salads and you can just...glaze right over them rather than dogpiling on his every post. It is simply the way he is. It's not going to change (certainly not because of the 4 millionth "shut up" post), and if the way he is is that unbearable to you, the ignore/block button is right there.

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

No, the selfless thing was when people went out of their way, many times, to get him to understand that it's not healthy to keep following those weirdo grifters and that he should try to come up with opinions on his own and that he shouldn't shoehorn these thoughts from right wing phonies into every conversation.

The telling him to shut up after came from him refusing to listen. It should really be so incredibly easy for him to say "Alright, I guess these folks don't want to hear with the Quartering has to say about Brie Larsen today, so I'll just not bring it up." And yet he continually does. People could not be more clear to him. At some point, people like that should be told to shut up because they clearly aren't getting it.

"But if you tell him to shut up, he still won't get it." Then in that case who cares. But we don't need people pearl clutching for LMS of all people when he's brought the way he's treated her entirely on himself.

Unless you think the whole thing is a meticulously constructed and false persona (in which case attacking him is playing into his hands), you are simply attacking him for being who he is.

ertyu rigged contests and insulted people all the time. The way the board treated him was still bullying. "He brought this all on himself" is bully victim blaming statement 101.

This is the way LMS is. It is clearly not going to change. This is not some created online persona (it's possible he has self awareness and has dialled it up, but I have my doubts). So then you're just attacking a guy for being the way he is - when "the way he is" is someone who virtually never insults anybody on a personal level, posting on a forum where there's a way to both never see his posts and ensure he never sees yours. Yet people choose to repeatedly dogpile on him whenever he makes a topic or post.

Leonhart4 posted...

Nothing anybody says has absolutely any effect on what he posts. Him having an occasional reaction to something somebody says to him doesn't change my original assertion.

So you mean that he won't change his way of posting (ie he's still going to post these word salads about the mcu, star wars, youtubers, etc) despite being attacked every time he makes a post - and this lack of change on his part is what makes it not bullying, somehow?

PrivateBiscuit1 posted...

LMS is harmless, but can we stop pretending like he's really being bullied?

Everyone here has made it clear that they don't care about these bizarre rants he gets from right wing grifters and being like "Hahaha yeah I know anyway here's some more things I learned from there."

People don't go out of their way to find LMS posts and start talking shit and actively being cruel to him. They are just saying "What the fuck man?" when he jumps into a topic to spread his nonsense. Where are all of these bullying posts when he comes in with some nonsense that he knows that nobody cares about hearing? If LMS has a problem with people telling him to shut up then maybe he should stop posting things he knows nobody here wants to hear about.

Or maybe people should stop telling him to shut up? It is clearly not actually going to make him shut up. It hasn't until now. Making those posts is not some selfless thing about helping LMS, it's a selfish release of frustration.

I'd say when it's multiple people repeatedly attacking a single guy who hasn't actually made any personal attacks themselves, bullying is a fair assessment. Even when they have, it could be considered that (see ertyu).

Leonhart4 posted...

That would be an odd reason for me to block him.

I don't remember the exact thing that caused me to block him. It was just the accumulation of years of nonsense that made me decide it wasn't worth it to keep dealing with him anymore.

And based on what little I've heard about him since then, nothing has changed, so life has moved on just fine for the both of us.

I mean I went and found it. MCU General 13, you tell him to stop, he comes back with an accusation of cyberbullying and then you say "aaaand goodbye".

So regardless of your reason to block him, "no effect" simply isn't true. I will say though that you blocking him is definitely an improvement and a course of action others should follow

Leonhart4 posted...

LMS hasn't done anything like that in many years, so either he's totally risen above it or it's what he wants now.

Didn't he call you out for bullying him in the MCU topic, causing you to block him, like a year ago?

The treatment of LMS is generally pretty vile, and his footprint is not all-encompassing enough that blocking/ignoring him isn't a solution

Like he isn't 2011 Ulti or some shit where blocking him would have served no purpose because topics just got immediately derailed by him - he got very specifically personal, insulting and rude and people were compelled to respond. LMS' posts are almost exclusively naive, impersonal, easily-ignored word salads.

Also LMS has, in the past, gotten every angry with multiple users and attacked them, mostly in retaliation, so to say it has 0 effect isn't true. That said, yes, his capacity to just blithely ignore it all is definitely something.

I just got the buggy, but went back to Junon to clear up the stuff there because I never explored it at all. Beat Cameron at the Crow's Nest... and that sudden static got me big time. Love it. Game mostly rules. Not a huge fan of Cait Sith but I'll keep practicing during Junon.

As hard a question as ever, but

Phoenix

Instinct alone

Gone with the Wind
Godfather
RotK
Kwai

Sheiran looks at Barret and says "that's one frightening looking appendage you've got there" and my childish brain can't stop me from laughing

world

I mean there is comfort in the fact that you can still count on Karo

God damnit I was hoping Kwai would win, it was my granddad's favorite movie. Oh well.

The Best years of our lives

The Godfather Part II

OK, I know it was kind of predictable but Cloud completely shrugging off Yuffie's ridiculous self-introduction with a deadpan "cool" before walking away was fucking hilarious and the best line read in the game so far

I burst out laughing. Helps that Yuffie is highly irritating and anything that undercuts her is great

The Godfather

Zigzagoon posted...

They really should have come up with more lines of dialog for that sequence LOL.

A problem for a lot part of the game imo

QB tournament for instance

ctesjbuvf posted...

It's weird it makes him like Cloud more directly yeah I just like seeing them all interact, create memories.

While I like this feature it does also bother me. In every side mission it's just Cloud and the other party member talking. The others never or rarely chime in. It's a bit...unnatural? It's like you can see the seams of the production a bit.

Wilds

Chrono

Weird

Justin

Green Hill
Chemical Plant
Drowning
Live and Learn

My strategy with QB is to put Cactuar(s) down early to get me two +3s on the opposite side of the board, which is usually enough, then do my best to win the middle lane

It's not great but it works out as long as I get Cactuars early

Hahaha I am so happy about the ride to Costa Del Sol and everything that happened there

Red dressing as a Shinra soldier was one of my favorite gags in the original and they brought it back in such a good way. Similar to like, the way they handled Hell House in the first one

UshiromiyaEva posted...

Yes it is.

You need to set your formation so that all 3 performances are 3 star difficulty.

Is that tied to the trophy? Like if I got the trophy I beat Roche?

I skipped the cutscene >_> I failed the first time, then the second time I skipped thinking it was like an MGS deal where there were multiple cutscenes so I figured I'd skip to the awarding rather than watch the broadcast again. But I skipped straight to playing as Yuffie.

The Junon parade then. I got the trophy 2nd attempt. It's the same cutscene though, right? Is it possible to beat Roche to the first award? I did a quick yt search and didn't see that.

Michelle Obama
Eleanor Roosevelt
Jackie Kennedy
Hilary Clinton

Just gut instinct really based on some sketchy knowledge

Nancy Reagan was bumped for Eleanor

Paratroopa1 posted...

Also I feel like 5th to 6th was a bigger jump forward than 4th to 5th. Like, yeah, the sudden ability to have 3D graphics was amazing at the time but it also felt like a step back in a lot of ways - even at the time I knew that the SNES/Genesis games of the time looked sharper visually and were more polished. The difference between 5th to 6th on the other hand is wild - PSX/N64 games feel noticeably like they're from a totally different time and place but PS2/GC/Xbox can almost pass itself off as current. That was really the last generation where I felt like, holy shit, we're in the future. After that it's been creeping incremental changes.

I think a lot of this is very fair, but I would still say 4 -> 5

Wii.

A curse they'll never shake

You guys are steaming through this. Had a busy week and only just met Roche in Junon. Yuffie is annoying yes

I really like countering with Cloud's punisher mode

ctesjbuvf posted...

Bowser
Ganondorf
Sephiroth

Are locks. Let me dwell on the last one.

(My first thought was this + Robotnik but I prefer my answer)

Inky
Blinky
Pinky
Clyde

Rayman

A frustration I had was that if you go into a story battle with the wrong loadout it's kind of necessary to like, assess, then realise you might be screwed and retry with the right materia

But these non-MP using magic attacks are a really handy way of mitigating that issue