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MacArrowny
03/08/24 1:35:29 PM
#51:


The date is on the second Gold Saucer trip right?

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foolm0r0n
03/08/24 1:36:33 PM
#52:


Is there an option to make Red riding a Chocobo invisible? It hurts me every time I see it

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KommunistKoala
03/08/24 1:52:35 PM
#53:


But that's one of the best parts of the game

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pezzicle
03/08/24 1:58:12 PM
#54:


Edit. Posted in the wrong topic

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BK_Sheikah00
03/08/24 2:00:20 PM
#55:


Nibel region. Worst part of the game without a doubt is the Cait Sith as leader section

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MoogleKupo141
03/08/24 3:13:35 PM
#56:


MacArrowny posted...
The date is on the second Gold Saucer trip right?

therea a date the first time you go there. Maybe theres also a second one, I dunno havent made it that far

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Pirateking2000
03/08/24 3:21:32 PM
#57:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Nibel region. Worst part of the game without a doubt is the Cait Sith as leader section

The solo "boss fight" was such a pain

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MacArrowny
03/08/24 3:21:49 PM
#58:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
therea a date the first time you go there. Maybe theres also a second one, I dunno havent made it that far
Did you not play the original FF7?

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MoogleKupo141
03/08/24 4:10:35 PM
#59:


I beat it once like a dozen years ago, dont remember stuff very well

but also you cant count on something from the original happening the same way here

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MacArrowny
03/08/24 4:12:05 PM
#60:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
I beat it once like a dozen years ago, dont remember stuff very well

but also you cant count on something from the original happening the same way here
Eh, I feel like for most of Rebirth so far it's been the same stuff with new parts added.

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XIII_Rocks
03/08/24 5:07:44 PM
#61:


Hahaha I am so happy about the ride to Costa Del Sol and everything that happened there

Red dressing as a Shinra soldier was one of my favorite gags in the original and they brought it back in such a good way. Similar to like, the way they handled Hell House in the first one

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BK_Sheikah00
03/08/24 7:32:32 PM
#62:


Oh my god I just hit Chapter 12.

Oh my god if you haven't been keeping up with stuff as it comes out.

Oh my god even if you have.

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Ifrit
03/08/24 8:06:06 PM
#63:


Okay, I'm feeling dumb. Am I the only one who can't figure out Queen's Blood? I finally won the tutorial. But I'm not sure of a strategy.

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colliding
03/08/24 8:06:38 PM
#64:


Have not read the topic. Will NOT read the topic. Just had to post. I finished Junon and holy shit this is actually the best Final Fantasy game ever made? Probably not, but even discounting nostalgia, it's an extremely impressive video game so far. Can't wait to finish and write a more detailed review. I haven't felt this way about a game in a long time

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foolm0r0n
03/08/24 8:37:11 PM
#65:


Ifrit posted...
Okay, I'm feeling dumb. Am I the only one who can't figure out Queen's Blood? I finally won the tutorial. But I'm not sure of a strategy.
If you had trouble with the tutorial you should probably try it again just to make sure you get the mechanics. It's supposed to be really simple, but there's a bunch of nuance in the little bit I've played already. Feels very inspired by Marvel Snap and I like it a lot.

At this point the best strategy I've found is zerg rush where you suffocate your opponent's side of the board. In Kalm there's 3 opponents and one of them is a legit challenge.

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Ifrit
03/08/24 9:18:57 PM
#66:


foolm0r0n posted...
At this point the best strategy I've found is zerg rush where you suffocate your opponent's side of the board. In Kalm there's 3 opponents and one of them is a legit challenge.

I beat them all, I just don't know how I did it. I just placed cards, tried turning things green, and it just kinda worked out I guess.

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foolm0r0n
03/08/24 9:34:08 PM
#67:


Hm I guess like with most symmetrical board games, you want to find the asymmetrical advantages, since that's the only way to win.

The most obvious one is that a card's dots override the enemy's dots. So if you can place a card that overrides the enemy's only remaining dot on a lane, you have shut them out of the lane without having to actually fill the lane yourself. This gives you an extra move to use on a different lane, which is a huge advantage.

Next is focusing just 2 of the lanes, and forget about the 3rd. It's seems hard to lose if you win 2 lanes, which makes it a lot like Marvel Snap (I assume more complicated cards will change this later).

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Ifrit
03/08/24 9:37:56 PM
#68:


I guess what I mostly don't get is why sometimes a card won't open a new space next to it, and sometimes it will.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/24 9:40:36 PM
#69:


That's the yellow squares on the card. Green square is placement, yellow is which squares next will add a pip/rank up.

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JackMan
03/08/24 9:43:14 PM
#70:


Ifrit posted...
I guess what I mostly don't get is why sometimes a card won't open a new space next to it, and sometimes it will.
Each card has a grid on it with coloured squares which indicate which squares it will affect. The white square is where you place it, the yellowish squares are which squares will convert to your (green) pins where possible in relation to where you place it (the white square). There are also red squares which indicate the card has a special ability (normally buffing or debuffing cards in those spaces).

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GANON1025
03/08/24 10:52:25 PM
#71:


Wow, 4th fort condor battle was way easier for me than the 3rd. Went with the super defensive loadout with cloud and tifa, won with like 35 seconds left.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/08/24 11:49:09 PM
#72:


I was in a pretty big slump between the Saucer (literally none of the minigames are fun, but gotta do them all to get the Primers) and Dustbowl, which was a long stretch of boring once you got past the incredible intro cutscene, and was pretty certain I was gonna put it on hold for Unicorn, but Dyne brought me back in, man what a great sequence.

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Kotetsu534
03/09/24 12:38:37 AM
#73:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Oh my god I just hit Chapter 12.

Oh my god if you haven't been keeping up with stuff as it comes out.

Oh my god even if you have.

I did two long sessions early in Ch.12 doing nothing but side quests and I'd been doing a lot on the way. The amount of side content is so vast (20+ minigames with different difficulties and challenges, plus all the exploration stuff, 30+ quests and other collectibles) that if you beelined it to late game skipping the great majority of it you'd have to spend much more time on it than you had progressing through the main story to complete it. The difference in scope between this and Remake is ginormous and not what I'd been expecting (I knew it'd be bigger, but this is like Jupiter to Earth).

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UshiromiyaEva
03/09/24 12:41:34 AM
#74:


......Do they pull a Torna and force you to do it before you can continue?

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Ifrit
03/09/24 12:47:48 AM
#75:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
That's the yellow squares on the card. Green square is placement, yellow is which squares next will add a pip/rank up.

Somehow I never understood it meant the tetris looking things.

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BK_Sheikah00
03/09/24 12:57:56 AM
#76:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
......Do they pull a Torna and force you to do it before you can continue?
Not at all. But it was like... Oh cool, summon battles now have a checkmark. Guess that's all the regions. All World Intels pretty much complete, sidequests done, what looks like the final npc of Queen's Blood is unlocked. Surely, we're now gonna beeline through the rest of the main story. But then Tiny Bronco says no.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/09/24 12:59:00 AM
#77:


Hmmm if I have Auto-Unique Ability and Auto-Weapon Ability on Tifa, I shouldn't need Chakra on the hotbar since Auto-Unique will also spend ATB on Chakra for her, right?

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BK_Sheikah00
03/09/24 1:01:58 AM
#78:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Oh do I not get to pick the date.

Oh no I got the worst possible basic bitch option.
If you just did the Dyne section, then you're nowhere near the date.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/09/24 1:05:02 AM
#79:


Yeah I realized after that it was an actual narrative "date".

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YoBlazer
03/09/24 3:01:43 AM
#80:


Just dropping in to say that Cait Sith's voice is perfect.

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XIII_Rocks
03/09/24 4:07:25 AM
#81:


My strategy with QB is to put Cactuar(s) down early to get me two +3s on the opposite side of the board, which is usually enough, then do my best to win the middle lane

It's not great but it works out as long as I get Cactuars early

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foolm0r0n
03/09/24 9:55:49 AM
#82:


Just got to Junon and yeah you can just mainline the story apparently. Didn't expect only 1 required mission in the grasslands.

I kinda want to go back and explore a bit, but I also don't think I want to play this for 100+ hours. It's the classic folly of open world - it demands the player to dilute their experience and lower their expectations in order to search for the good stuff, since the search is what justifies the open world's existence in the first place. Only Elden Ring has avoided that problem.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/09/24 9:57:27 AM
#83:


I'm going to do enough missions in the Desert to get all the Auto-Weapon Materia from Chadley, and then it's beeline time.

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SHINE_GET_64
03/09/24 10:48:14 AM
#84:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/99652c0b.jpg

These are the stats I was looking for

I should probably play the actual game now

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/09/24 1:24:13 PM
#85:


foolm0r0n posted...
I kinda want to go back and explore a bit, but I also don't think I want to play this for 100+ hours. It's the classic folly of open world - it demands the player to dilute their experience and lower their expectations in order to search for the good stuff, since the search is what justifies the open world's existence in the first place. Only Elden Ring has avoided that problem.

Not really, every region has a request board that points you to directly to the side story quests (there's like 5 per zone), protorelics (an overarching major quest chain) get clearly marked, and then the last "major" side content is probably the summon battles but weakening the fight and upgrading the materia is technically optional.

Now, whether you think those are all winners is a separate issue, but it's upfront about what the major content is.

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AllHeDoesIsWin
03/09/24 2:24:13 PM
#86:


Chapter 5 spoilers
HAHAHA YESSSSSS Queen's Blood exhibition match was fucking amazing. I was worried they were gonna skip Security Officer Red

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BK_Sheikah00
03/09/24 2:44:06 PM
#87:


Chapter 12. The wait was worth it.
Cleaned up sidequests and then proceeded to the date with Tifa. This was the peak for me. Everything they recreated was perfect and enhanced in every way. They nailed the characters and the ferris wheel was as cute and awkward as it should have been. There's no way I could ever rate this lower than Remake or the original after this. I am dying to see how the other dates go.

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BK_Sheikah00
03/09/24 2:48:11 PM
#88:


Oh and I beat the final opponent in Queen's Blood. It's such a gimmicky fight. But there are 4 cards that will carry you.

Have 2 Rictus, a Chimera and Gi Nattak. Try to have at least 1 Rictus and Chimera on your opening hand and start with Rictus at the top of first column, Chimera on the middle, and the other Rictus at the bottom. Then the Shadowqueen's shennaingans will buff these three cards so much.keep playing until the opponent starts running out of space to screw you over. Doesn't really matter how many more tiles you win. Then you just end it by playing Gi Nattak on the Chimera's tile.

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GANON1025
03/09/24 4:42:01 PM
#89:


Everything in Upper Junon was great

Hell, everything in Junon was great

Hell, everything has been great

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CassandraCain
03/09/24 4:52:24 PM
#90:


BK_Sheikah00 posted...
Oh and I beat the final opponent in Queen's Blood. It's such a gimmicky fight. But there are 4 cards that will carry you.

Thank you for this! She was real trouble. Funny how it ramped up from all the previous challengers, none of them took much effort to beat.

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foolm0r0n
03/09/24 5:58:18 PM
#91:


HeroDelTiempo17 posted...
Now, whether you think those are all winners is a separate issue, but it's upfront about what the major content is.
I did try some side stuff in Junon and it does seem straightforward. So straightforward that it's formulaic, and the open world does NOT justify itself like I was saying. I'm just running from dot to dot mindlessly, and I know exactly what to expect at every point, and I now also know what every future area will be like as well.

That's fine really. Let the player pick what they like and ignore the rest. I like all the side bosses so far so I'll just stick to those. But why is the damn chocobo hunting the only thing you can't skip?

I haven't seen the job board yet though.

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foolm0r0n
03/09/24 5:59:18 PM
#92:


Also fort condor is pretty fun but definitely no queens blood. Where are all the challengers for QB anyway? The pacing of all the side stuff is so weird.

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UshiromiyaEva
03/09/24 9:47:27 PM
#93:


Got Cait Sith and tried to use him.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8a726113.jpg

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Zigzagoon
03/09/24 9:51:14 PM
#94:


Cait Sith is so much fun to use. I might enjoy playing him more than Red.

Maybe.

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skullbone
03/09/24 9:52:11 PM
#95:


Yeah he didn't click for me until I did his combat trial.

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Zigzagoon
03/09/24 9:55:07 PM
#96:


But it did take playing him for like 10 mins to figure him out lol

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YoBlazer
03/09/24 10:03:54 PM
#97:


I feel like every character has incredible potential, but I'm not sure I'll have it in me to truly explore everyone's playstyle unless I'm required to do so with high-level trials.

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Ifrit
03/10/24 11:43:15 AM
#98:


Do not like the moogle mini game.

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Zigzagoon
03/10/24 11:45:09 AM
#99:


Awww but aren't the crazy little mooglets just so adorable?

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UshiromiyaEva
03/10/24 11:48:59 AM
#100:


Rebirth Moogles

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fbf487ae.jpg

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