Current Events > Democratic establishment and media bends the knee to Trump

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https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/15/democrat-governors-trump-strategy-00189726

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/11/15/trump-presidency-liberal-media-resistance-00189655

Nobody's willing to resist anymore.

I'm honestly amazed at how fast they all fell in line, I wonder how long it takes til the late night hosts start copying Bill Mahers

They always were in his corner.

When anti-trump people vote 3rd party or stay home, what are dey expected to do lol

Im confused; democratic governors are doing the same thing they do every election?

What are they expected to do when Americans voted for Trump? If you wanted Dems to fight then people should have voted.

Literally every Dem governo knows for a fact that if they don't satisfy Trump's ego, any natural disaster or pandemic could result in him withholding funds and their people being hurt or dying.

There's really no reason for Biden to be taking smiling selfies, though. That's grotesque

We're headed for a future like Snow Crash where the US Government is a tiny rinky dink corporation nobody respects.

The Left feels defeated now versus 2016 because the Left was defeated. Eight years of opposing Donald Trump at every turn and the motherfucker still becomes the first GOP candidate to win the popular vote in a generation, not to mention Democrats by and large failing across the board. It's the nightmare scenario we all saw coming for the better part of a decade and yet ultimately could do nothing to stop it.

Like the second article suggests, resistant fervor will undoubtedly rise again once Trump's actually in office and implementing policies. But it's a lot to expect people to keep fighting the good fight when morale is in the crapper right now.

The problem is Trump won both popular and EC. There's not much to really resist as long as the election was fair. There are calls for investigations over some concerning developments, but until those turn out some actual evidence of foul play we can't just ignore democracy.

because it legitimizes and normalizes the cult.
thats why they shouldnt be bending the knee

when trump starts deporting peopel and crashing the country to the point where it becomes a state of emergency...then what?

this whole situaiton is so stupid and beyond pathetic.

all hail emperor trump

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/11/seeking-favor-with-musk-and-trump-advertisers-plot-return-to-x/

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At least Newsom still has a spine.

ScazarMeltex posted...

As I said before the election, Corporations will always choose to embrace Fascism rather than resist it.

specially for those sweet sweet tax breaks

Its been 10 years of constant worry. I cant do anything, I voted Harris. They want to bankrupt me and take my insurance I cant do anything. We lost, were ants and that boot is coming down.

They won, they won America. Its theirs. We cant do anything ever again.

Republicans have no principles. Democrats have no spine.

BlackOmnimon posted...

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Is it okay to start calling capitalism fascist by design yet

Companies only care about money. Having a president with unlimited powah means he can ruin you if you dont play along.

As ridiculous as it sounds....its becoming a reality.

Props to Pritzker who is at least making a show of telling DC he'll protect his Illinois constituents against Trump

Unfortunately, should we expect Democratic politicians to die for us? We've thoroughly let them down in this election.

Biden administration and the Dems arent far off from the government that ruled Germany during the Weimar period. They had so many opportunities to eliminate the facism virus before the infection went too far, but they did nothing to stop it. And now its far too late.

Srk700 posted...

Biden administration and the Dems arent far off from the government that ruled Germany during the Weimar period. They had so many opportunities to eliminate the facism virus before the infection went too far, but they did nothing to stop it. And now its far too late.

With the current Congress and SCOTUS makeup, what opportunities could they have had in stopping the fascists?

The vast majority of American corporations have zero qualms with participating and even perpetuating China's police-state censorship, solely for the right to do business in a country with a worthless currency and poor workers' rights. Why would anyone expect them to oppose Trump's fascist takeover?

Srk700 posted...

Biden administration and the Dems arent far off from the government that ruled Germany during the Weimar period. They had so many opportunities to eliminate the facism virus before the infection went too far, but they did nothing to stop it. And now its far too late.

Did they? It was my understanding that they already had their hands full with the pro-labor unrest, alone. (And giving the workers what they rightfully demanded would not have fixed the problem, as they would still have to deal with the corporations, their private militias, and the deluded anti-labor laborers.)

Humble_Novice posted...

With the current Congress and SCOTUS makeup, what opportunities could they have had in stopping the fascists?

With presidential immunity, the playbook is wide open.

darkace77450 posted...

With presidential immunity, the playbook is wide open.

The ruling wasn't THAT broad

If the Democratic establishment had spines and principles, or even cared in the first place, the U.S. wouldn't be in this position in the first place. I'm not sure what people expected here. Corporations looking out for themselves is also not shocking, lol.

Srk700 posted...

Biden administration and the Dems arent far off from the government that ruled Germany during the Weimar period. They had so many opportunities to eliminate the facism virus before the infection went too far, but they did nothing to stop it. And now its far too late.

I'm not sure how you expect the dems to overturn a fair election without resulting in engaging in fascism themselves.

The fact is the US voted for this. People were warning what was coming if he won and no one cared then.

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one of the biggest issues is how badly Garland's DOJ handled it.

Admittedly, Fani Willis fucked up in Georgia, too whereas NY had its shit in order

First, they're sticklers for rules and decorum. In stark contrast to the opposition, they want it on record that they "played fair" and don't want to ignite or be blamed for anything their constitutes might do. They'll be villianized anyway but that's not the point.

Second, they're playing politics. They still need to work with this administration and there's no point going scorched Earth right away. Buttering up this clown show might be the only way to get what they'll need in terms of support from government and subsequently voters.

Third, they have a lot of shared interests. While not "same thing, both sides" their communities have a lot of the same concerns and they have the same special interest groups donating to them. Campaigning is wholly different to actually governing.

Forth, the media is ecstatic. Another four years of Trump means another four years of records engagement and profits. Various tax savings and other avenues to boost revenue that might not be as lucrative under Democrats is a nice bonus.

ScazarMeltex posted...

As I said before the election, Corporations will always choose to embrace Fascism rather than resist it.

Capitalism embraces fascism. Shameless corporate greed should never be underestimated, they'll badmouth Musk while keeping X afloat. They're already price gouging us so they'll happily keep costs steady and take decreased profits if that means more mergers approved, more permits granted, more contracts awarded, less regulations, less oversight, less workers rights, and of course less taxes to pay. Or maybe they'll raise prices anyway, not like Republicans will care when it's their guys and gals in charge.

Tmaster148 posted...

I'm not sure how you expect the dems to overturn a fair election without resulting in engaging in fascism themselves.

The fact is the US voted for this. People were warning what was coming if he won and no one cared then.

Bullshit, Republicans routinely try to hamper the voting process for Democrats and do crazy, blatant gerrymandering crap with district mapping. Not to mention their stranglehold on the narrative, with assistance from foreign powers. But because they do it "by the books" all Democrats can do is point it out and then shrug.

tremain07 posted...

I'm honestly amazed at how fast they all fell in line

I'm not because

AnsestralRecall posted...

They always were in his corner.

So, it's seriously going to be up to a full-out revolution. This is seriously going to end like the old days of France with Louis and Antoinette, but with more power to the leader. This is so not good.

Sayoria posted...

So, it's seriously going to be up to a full-out revolution. This is seriously going to end like the old days of France with Louis and Antoinette, but with more power to the leader. This is so not good.

I'm thinking more Napoleon crowing himself.

masterpug53 posted...

The Left feels defeated now versus 2016 because the Left was defeated. Eight years of opposing Donald Trump at every turn and the motherfucker still becomes the first GOP candidate to win the popular vote in a generation, not to mention Democrats by and large failing across the board. It's the nightmare scenario we all saw coming for the better part of a decade and yet ultimately could do nothing to stop it.

Like the second article suggests, resistant fervor will undoubtedly rise again once Trump's actually in office and implementing policies. But it's a lot to expect people to keep fighting the good fight when morale is in the crapper right now.

Dems didn't fail that badly across the board. The GOP barely has a House majority.

Tmaster148 posted...

I'm not sure how you expect the dems to overturn a fair election without resulting in engaging in fascism themselves.

The fact is the US voted for this. People were warning what was coming if he won and no one cared then.

Not even talking about overturning an election. Im talking about making Trump face consequences for all the criminal activities hes done before the election season even started. Our AG being a spineless coward and leaving Trumps cases to the states (which allowed a corrupt judge in Aileen Cannon being able to oversee his documents case) allowed him to get away without having to face any consequences.

Had Trump been locked up in a prison cell, running for president would have been much harder since he wouldnt be able to host any events and wouldnt have easy access to the media. And without Trump being a visible figurehead for them, Republicans would have had a harder time turning out voters.

Takuya_Lee posted...

Dems didn't fail that badly across the board. The GOP barely has a House majority.

That's true. Slim GOP majorities are still far preferable to supermajorities.

masterpug53 posted...

That's true. Slim GOP majorities are still far preferable to supermajorities.

IMO the Democrats should focus on the House much more than they do -- have a real 50 state strategy, run good candidates everywhere (no more of this unopposed GOP candidate shit), and work to make GOP gerrymandering of House districts a more visible issue.

The Democrats had uninterrupted control of the House from 1954 to 1994, and it's no coincidence that the US government being a total shit show basically started in 1994.

Takuya_Lee posted...

Dems didn't fail that badly across the board. The GOP barely has a House majority.

One reason it feels different is Trump himself. 2016 felt like a fluke and a major mistake.

Srk700 posted...

Not even talking about overturning an election. Im talking about making Trump face consequences for all the criminal activities hes done before the election season even started. Our AG being a spineless coward and leaving Trumps cases to the states (which allowed a corrupt judge in Aileen Cannon being able to oversee his documents case) allowed him to get away without having to face any consequences.

Had Trump been locked up in a prison cell, running for president would have been much harder since he wouldnt be able to host any events and wouldnt have easy access to the media. And without Trump being a visible figurehead for them, Republicans would have had a harder time turning out voters.

Come on, even if Garland wasn't the AG there's no chance Trump would have faced consequences. He's in way too many protected classes, anything short of a recorded statement saying "I authorized a coup" or "I took those documents knowing I can't and sold them to foreign agents" wouldn't have been enough to convinct him. Even if they started as soon as possible they still wouldn't have been able to do anything in four years, let alone three. Maybe fined him sooner, which would have gotten tied up in appeals, and he'd never have to pay the full amount anyway.

Things are simply too far gone. The only things Democrats can fight and hope for are scraps. Not to say we shouldn't keep fighting because these "scraps" are still great things, or that it's completely hopeless. Just recognizing where we're at and how pretty much the only way out of the perpetual horror show is an unprecedented revolution that Democrats are unwilling to start and definitely unwilling to lead.

Maybe that's just my new coping method of not worrying so much about stuff I can't control. I voted, will continue to vote, and if that doesn't work I'll take a page out of Democrats book and say "at least I tried" before retiring.

Srk700 posted...

Not even talking about overturning an election. Im talking about making Trump face consequences for all the criminal activities hes done before the election season even started. Our AG being a spineless coward and leaving Trumps cases to the states (which allowed a corrupt judge in Aileen Cannon being able to oversee his documents case) allowed him to get away without having to face any consequences.

Had Trump been locked up in a prison cell, running for president would have been much harder since he wouldnt be able to host any events and wouldnt have easy access to the media. And without Trump being a visible figurehead for them, Republicans would have had a harder time turning out voters.

Had people voted for Harris maybe he could've gone to jail for his convictions in New York and possible conviction in Florida.

The general public obviously didn't care any of the court cases last week otherwise they would've went in a different direction

Maybe the Democrats should bribe some House republicans to cross the aisle

Srk700 posted...

Im talking about making Trump face consequences for all the criminal activities hes done before the election season even started. Our AG being a spineless coward and leaving Trumps cases to the states (which allowed a corrupt judge in Aileen Cannon being able to oversee his documents case) allowed him to get away without having to face any consequences.

Point of Clarification: Cannon was overseeing a federal case. The charges were filed in her district because that's where the crimes were committed, and she was assigned to the case based on luck of the draw.

It's getting worse
https://www.offmessage.net/p/no-trumps-cabinet-is-not-a-distraction

At his first press conference since Trump won the election, shortly after we learned Democrats wouldnt retake the House of Representatives, Hakeem Jeffries fielded a question about one of Donald Trumps disturbing national security nominees.

Heres what Im not going to do for the next two years and the next four years, Jeffries said. Im not going to deal with, its Tulsi Gabbard one day, then an hour later its Matt Gaetz, then the next day its Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., then he says something on X on Truth Social and then the people connected to him are doing something outra[geous]No! That Im not doing. Because thats all a distraction.

On the high road in Jeffries mind, hes cruising past nonsense and pettiness with his eyes trained diligently on the horizon. Thats where the real business of politics lieswhere Republicans take aim at health care and Democrats assemble to block them.
But notice the sheer scope of activity Jeffries has walled off as unimportant or beneath him. Matt Gaetz isnt just a degenerate backbench MAGA loyalist, hes credibly accused of child-sex trafficking, and may soon carry out vendettas against his accusers and others as the nations top law-enforcement officer. Tulsi Gabbard isnt just a wild-eyed reactionary who makes bonkers claims on foreign propaganda networks, shes in line to lead the United Statess intelligence community. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. isnt just a brain-wormed sex pest, he wants to mainstream an anti-vaccine culture that has left a trail of dead children in its wake.
Much of what Trump says on Truth Social or Twitter is indeed deflective, but the outrageous things he and the people around him do are often plainly corrupt.
And so the publicly held position of the House Democratic leader that opining on matters like theseabout a coming political crackdown, the self-enrichment of Trumps allies, the compromising of the countrys intelligence capabilities, the safety of childrenisnt his job.

I beg to differ.

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