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Ninja Gaiden 3/RE- Combat is slower and bosses are lame, save for the Regent, but Steel on Bone and Karma Glitch save it. Its enjoyable until the final boss.

Metal Gear Solid 3- Ive sunk so many hours into this game. So, so many

Mortal Kombat fighting games during the PS2 era- I love MK and these were no exception. I owned all 3 of them.

scorpion41 posted...

Metal Gear Solid 3

This is widely considered the best in the series. It's getting a remake for that reason.

Disgaea 6. Sometimes (more often than I'd like, actually) I'm so lazy that letting the game autoplay is a win.

ssjevot posted...

This is widely considered the best in the series. It's getting a remake for that reason.

Yeah, 2 is generally seen as the black sheep, not 3.

Bat178 posted...

Yeah, 2 is generally seen as the black sheep, not 3.

I dunno... these days 2 seems like a god damn masterpiece compared to 5. And I know people are going to like it, but my god did I ever hate that game.

I actually like Dark Souls 2 more than Dark Souls 1, I think it catches way too much heat for things that people give the other from soft games a pass for

Monster Hunter 3 and it's sub-versions with the underwater combat. MH is my favorite game series ever but 3 is one i'd never want to revisit just because of how bad the underwater stuff is.

UnicornRaline posted...

Monster Hunter 3 and it's sub-versions with the underwater combat. MH is my favorite game series ever but 3 is one i'd never want to revisit just because of how bad the underwater stuff is.

I do think monster hunter 3's underwater combat is a cool concept that was held back by the hardware at the time. Like when I think monster hunter as a profession I think these hunters trying to grapple on to these kinds of monsters even if the mons drag them through the air or sea just to take them down. (Reminds me of that one fight against the super walrus from that wolf's rain anime, lol).

With that said yeah the controls for it in the classic gameplay style was kind of ass. (I was a lance user and so while it wasn't as bad for me I def. did not even bother trying to use other weapons if I knew a underwater fight was coming up). I do believe that capcom can pull off this concept way better with the more modern monster hunter world and monster hunter rise control style and so I would love for them to give the underwater thing another go.

Is Lord of the Rings The Third Age considered a gaming black sheep? Cuz LotR isnt exactly a gaming franchise, but it is very different from the other LotR games out there. And I know its supposedly a Final Fantasy clone but, God, I started playing it again and its sooo fun and addictive

I liked Wolfenstein: Youngblood. It has some issues, but I can't deny that it's fun and just as good as any of the other entries in the series. If the next game continued in that direction, I'd get it.

tankboy posted...

I liked Wolfenstein: Youngblood. It has some issues, but I can't deny that it's fun and just as good as any of the other entries in the series. If the next game continued in that direction, I'd get it.

That game was a blast. I put all my points into speed on the pistols and was basically walking around dual wielding MG42s.

Burnout CRASH!, if you can consider it part of the series.

Otherwise Burnout Revenge.

Two hated games liked, but they arent in a series to my knowledge are

Beyond the Beyond

Tecmo Secret of the Stars

Not the best games, but still fun imo.

Oh and I agree about Mystic Quest it was a fun game with fun elements, just extremely easy.

Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter

The very linear but very awesome Breath of Fire game where you lose points if you save the game (not quicksave, but save-save as an anti-death checkpoint), and if you use your Dragon powers too much, it's also an automatic game over as the counter has a running tally.

But, the combat is fun and tactical. I love the dystopian setting. Bosch is an amazing villain you love to hate, much like Algus from FFT. The cel shaded graphics are pretty awesome, and there's rogue-like replay value. And even additional story cutscenes available on additional playthoughs!

Skyward Sword was a great Zelda. The linearity wasn't that bad and I never had issues with the motion controls. Still the best iteration of Zelda as well imo.

Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin is just as good as DS 1 and 3. The only complaint I have is the world not feeling connected.

Dead Rising: Chop Til You Drop is a fine port of DR1 and a fun novelty.

joaquintall posted...

Super Mario Bros 2... but I played it before SMB3 was a thing. So picking up enemies rather than stomping on them was just evolution.

I'm sure if I had played all the others first, I'd say that it isn't a Mario game.

Growing up in a time where I was able to play all three SMB games in order, SMB2 was always my favorite of the three, probably becasue of what you said, picking up and throwing enemies, as opposed to just jumping on them, along with the game moving horizontally AND vertically made it feel like such an advancement from SMB1

Mega Man 6 - it's a solid game and my favorite visually for the NES. Despite being pretty similar to games 2-5, it gets a lot of hate.

While it's not my favorite, Final Fantasy XIII is in my top 5

tankboy posted...

I liked Wolfenstein: Youngblood. It has some issues, but I can't deny that it's fun and just as good as any of the other entries in the series. If the next game continued in that direction, I'd get it.

And I thought I was the only person who liked Youngblood. Like you said, it definitely have flaws (especially when it was first released, pre-patched) and it can be tedious/repetitive as hell, and the lack of a strong story throughout (which is a big part of what I play the new Wolfenstein games for) and some of the story choices they went with were disappointing. But the gameplay was fun enough that it carried me all the way through to the end.

I'm not a fan of Indiana Jones at all, but I'm at least happy for the people who are excited for the new game. I would have preferred Machine Games continuing Wolfenstein, picking up where Youngblood left off.

Kitt posted...

I'm not a fan of Indiana Jones at all, but I'm at least happy for the people who are excited for the new game. I would have preferred Machine Games continuing Wolfenstein, picking up where Youngblood left off.

I would love more wolfenstein but I also like when devs branch out and aren't strapped to one franchise. It's definitely a double edged sword.

Will I be the first person ITT to say that I liked Metroid Other M

Senta posted...

Suikoden IV.

Everyone dislikes it compared to the rest of the series, but it's my absolute favorite.

This one. It's not my favorite but I still love it. I'm a sucker for nautical themed stuff, though.

Apollo Justice. While it isnt as good as AA1 or AA3, its definitely better than Justice for All as well as the 2 3DS games

R_Jackal posted...

This one. It's not my favorite but I still love it. I'm a sucker for nautical themed stuff, though.

My issue was more or less that it was a little too open. So when I took a break from it, I had no clue where I was supposed to go next, as there is no log system or people to talk to in game to figure that kind of thing out.

Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness. It's my second favourite Star Ocean.

BlueBoy675 posted...

Apollo Justice. While it isnt as good as AA1 or AA3, its definitely better than Justice for All as well as the 2 3DS games

tbh Justice for All is my favorite AA game

UnicornRaline posted...

Monster Hunter 3 and it's sub-versions with the underwater combat. MH is my favorite game series ever but 3 is one i'd never want to revisit just because of how bad the underwater stuff is.

I really wish I liked MH. Its a great concept, but its bogged down, imo, with tons and tons of unnecessary stats.

i kind of like Lords of the Fallen, both the original and the remake.

BlueBoy675 posted...

Apollo Justice. While it isnt as good as AA1 or AA3, its definitely better than Justice for All as well as the 2 3DS games

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Moderately good opinion.