Current Events > is there any reason to build a gaming pc if i already have a ps5

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seems like pc/console is kind of the same thing at this point, is there any reason to double up now or is that a waste of $$$

No, PC gaming is a dying platform

yes for the simple fact that the sooner you get away from sony's ecosystem, the better off you'll be.

I have both and don't really use pc.

I mean, there are literally tens of thousands more games available on PC that you can't play on PS5. How many of those you care about is another story.

You get better performance, more games, free online, free cloud saves, better BC, better controller options, cheaper upgrades long term, quieter, all of the things a PC can do that consoles cannot, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc

PS5 is trash

MagiMarthKoopa posted...

You get better performance, more games, free online, free cloud saves, better BC, better controller options, cheaper upgrades long term, quieter, all of the things a PC can do that consoles cannot, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc

PS5 is trash

yeah, along with all the bullshit troubleshooting for free that comes with PC.

bought FO: NV the other week in steam for cheap. Apparently it's not compatible with newer drivers and crashes immediately when I try to start a game. The only way I can play it is if I sit down for 1hr+ and mod it into oblivion with Viva New Vegas. So that's cool.

That's one of the awesome things you get to look forward to with PC.

SicSlayer posted...

yeah, along with all the bullshit troubleshooting for free that comes with PC.

bought FO: NV

It's easy to just not buy Bethesda games. Most other companies have no issue releasing bug free games

SicSlayer posted...

yeah, along with all the bullshit troubleshooting for free that comes with PC.

bought FO: NV the other week in steam for cheap. Apparently it's not compatible with newer drivers and crashes immediately when I try to start a game. The only way I can play it is if I sit down for 1hr+ and mod it into oblivion with Viva New Vegas. So that's cool.

That's one of the awesome things you get to look forward to with PC.

PEBCAK

Really depends on what youre looking for. If youre going to go low or mid range I say no. Youre going to pay more for very minor improvements in graphics or frame rate.

Now if youre looking for high range pc for 4k high frame rate gaming then I say yes.

IMO, you're set for a few years. but instead of buying a PS6, build a PC.

I booted up my PS4 after a long time to play some Bloodborne.

So online is paywalled now? I couldnt connect to the servers without being routed to PS+

If youre going high end, then yes. If not, Id wait to build one when the PS6 comes out.

HudGard posted...

So online is paywalled now?

has been for years

HudGard posted...

I booted up my PS4 after a long time to play some Bloodborne.

So online is paywalled now? I couldnt connect to the servers without being routed to PS+

Has been since the PS4 came out.

Weird. I must be losing it. I swear I was using the online features of Sekiro and Bloodborne early on and Ive never touched a PS subscription.

I'd suggest it depends on your taste in games, if you play online, your technical skill, and how much you're willing to pay.

There are genres that only really appear on PC or are difficult elsewhere. RTS are the most obvious, but it also includes a lot of management games and some simulator style games. If you like those you'd want a PC.

If you play online regularly, not having to pay for PSN will save you money over time. That would require you to move all your online gaming from PS5 to PC though, which may not be easy or even feasible depending on friends.

If you know how to use a computer well, mods or can add a lot of life to games or revive classics and favorites. But if you're not all that tech savvy, it can turn into a time sink that would earn you more frustration than enjoyment.

PC tends to have better sales among its various market places. If you like indie games, a low tier or budget PC might save you money in the long run through sales. But if you mostly AAA, the price point to build one that would measure up to the PS5 you already have would be harder to justify. It might still be worth it if multiple points hit, but that's for you to decide.

yeah try getting schlongs in ps5 skyrim

PraetorXyn posted...

PEBCAK

ya it's my fault their shit doesn't work with my drivers

typical PC self righteous douche bag

MagiMarthKoopa posted...

You get better performance, more games, free online, free cloud saves, better BC, better controller options, cheaper upgrades long term, quieter, all of the things a PC can do that consoles cannot, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc

PS5 is trash

Better Performance: If you spend a LOT more on hardware, and still situational. See Dragon's Dogma 2 and all the Batman Arkham games.
More Games: True, however certain games take longer to release on PC if they ever do.
Free Online: True... but online and cloud saves arent the only benefits for PS+. I have more games in my PS+ library than ones I've actually bought.
Quieter: Not necessarily. My PS5 is whisper quiet, but I've had my PC fans much louder depending on the situation and game.
All the things, etc etc. We also can't forget all the things PS5 does better than PC. I'm not going to list any of them, you obviously know what they are /s

I own a decent PC and a PS5. I play both regularly and often what I play on is only determined by what kind of game it is. I also have both an Xbox and a Playstation controller plugged into my PC, and use either one depending on what button prompts the game gives me.

People who do things like call one or the other "trash" are being incredibly disingenuous. Either one is good. A PS5 likely will outlast any singular build of gaming PC unless you go for an incredibly expensive one, simply because games are often worse optimized on PC because they have the option to take advantage of stronger hardware, which you may or may not own.

However the problem with that is PC games NEED stronger hardware in order to achieve the same performance levels the PS5 gets simply due to there being more overheard or background processing involved on a PC. PS5 and other console games can be coded closer "to the metal" than on PC and as such can have access to more of the system's resources, even if the system overall has less of them.

On the flip side though there are certain games, that even though they might be available on console I'll only play on PC. Playing Rimworld, Sims, Civ, and many other games just do not have good control options for console, and I wouldnt want to play those games (especially Rimworld) without mods.

Speaking of controls... some games on PC have HORRIBLE mouse and keyboard controls. the ones that most immediately come to mind are the Dark Souls series and Monster Hunter games, though it can apply to basically any third person action game.

TBH If you HAVE the money for a decent gaming rig, you won't regret getting one. If you need to save up for a while or risk putting yourself at some financial risk, I'd recommend just sticking to the PS5.

Getting my current PC was what turned me away from console tbh.

Speaking of controls... some games on PC have HORRIBLE mouse and keyboard controls. the ones that most immediately come to mind are the Dark Souls series and Monster Hunter games, though it can apply to basically any third person action game.

This becomes a non-issue if the game has proper controller support though.

SicSlayer posted...

ya it's my fault their shit doesn't work with my drivers

typical PC self righteous douche bag

Mod it for an hour VS literally no way to play it on ps5 aside from streaming through PS+, which is more expensive than just buying the game on Steam. I'm not gonna deny that the game was and is buggy, but at least you have the option to play it. It also looks and runs better and can be modded. Yeah, PC has the superior experience there.

OP: Yes. Games look and run better, mods, backwards compatibility is orders of magnitude better, you have way more options for controllers for games and you have PC exclusives as well as entire genres that just don't exist on consoles. It's also surprisingly affordable over time compared to its reputation, although the upfront cost is absolutely higher than a console.

Whether that's worth it to you is a lot more subjective, but there are tons of features you only get on PC.

Trumble posted...

Getting my current PC was what turned me away from console tbh.

This becomes a non-issue if the game has proper controller support though.

Very aware of that. I was just mentioning it as one thing that can be a negative about PC gaming. Is it easy to get around? Yeah but it's still something to keep in mind.

Same kind of scenario as "Yeah NV doesn't work on modern drivers but you can spend an hour modding it so it does"

UnicornRaline posted...

However the problem with that is PC games NEED stronger hardware in order to achieve the same performance levels the PS5 gets simply due to there being more overheard or background processing involved on a PC. PS5 and other console games can be coded closer "to the metal" than on PC and as such can have access to more of the system's resources, even if the system overall has less of them.

This hasn't really been true for a while now. I don't dispute that a PS5 is better value up front (mostly because there's very little profit on the hardware) but they're also made of pretty off the shelf parts these days and most of the software runs through APIs. It runs comparably to a similarly speced PC. Even today, the PS5 has to make quite a lot of compromises to maintain healthy framerates.

That doesn't mean it isn't great for its price, but it's pretty far from the days of consoles leaving PCs in the dust.

If you ever want to play a mod for a game, a gaming PC would be fantastic.

UnicornRaline posted...

Better Performance: If you spend a LOT more on hardware

You don't need to spend much more than a console to get a good PC. 1440p 60hz, even 75hz, is better than what consoles offer and is very affordable, especially when you factor in the long term savings of modular upgrades and no subscription fees.

UnicornRaline posted...

A PS5 likely will outlast any singular build of gaming PC unless you go for an incredibly expensive one, simply because games are often worse optimized on PC because they have the option to take advantage of stronger hardware, which you may or may not own.

A budget PC will be stronger than and outlast a PS5. The "console optimizations" that people love to bring up are literally just the graphics settings being lowered compared to the high/max PC settings. Consoles don't have some sort of secret sauce that PC doesn't that makes games magically run better.

I've looked at the PS5 performance of the games that I've played on PC, and they all run at lower resolutions and quality settings than they do on my budget PC to just barely maintain 60FPS.

UnicornRaline posted...

However the problem with that is PC games NEED stronger hardware in order to achieve the same performance levels the PS5 gets simply due to there being more overheard or background processing involved on a PC

The "overhead" thing is just another myth people love to cling to. It is so utterly insignificant and not an issue.

MagiMarthKoopa posted...

You don't need to spend much more than a console to get a good PC. 1440p 60hz, even 75hz, is better than what consoles offer and is very affordable, especially when you factor in the long term savings of modular upgrades and no subscription fees.

A budget PC will be stronger than and outlast a PS5. The "console optimizations" that people love to bring up are literally just the graphics settings being lowered compared to the high/max PC settings. Consoles don't have some sort of secret sauce that PC doesn't that makes games magically run better.

I've looked at the PS5 performance of the games that I've played on PC, and they all run at lower resolutions and quality settings than they do on my budget PC to just barely maintain 60FPS.

The "overhead" thing is just another myth people love to cling to. It is so utterly insignificant and not an issue.

Find me a gaming PC that includes everything it needs to run out of the box for $600 that can maintain 1440p 60fps on modern games.

Also, PC vs console overhead is not a myth. PCs run more background processes than consoles do, which allow the console to take advantage of more of the system's resources, which means the same overall results can be achieved with a smaller resource pool.

yes its better

PC has a huge library of game compared to any console that is one reason. There are these reasons below:

• Free games on Epic Store, GOG, Steam, etc.
• Free online
• Huge discount on games at certain times. There are offers that reach 90%
• Free cloud saving and can use external hard drive to back up data.
• Mods which benefits the games
• Turbo button option on Steam

To play online on PS5 it cost $79.99 yearly. Paying that for 10 years it would reach $799.90.

$159.99 yearly for 10 years would reach $1,599.90.
Then there are games that are locked behind subscription, so people don't have the option to buy them.

People can't backup their save data without subscription.

You can run AI on your gaming PC

HudGard posted...

I booted up my PS4 after a long time to play some Bloodborne.

So online is paywalled now? I couldnt connect to the servers without being routed to PS+

The PS3 didn't need PS+ to play online, while PS4 needed PS+ to play online.
These system could play online without subscription service:

Gen 6
GameCube (not longer works)
PS2 (not longer works)
Dreamcast (not longer works)

Gen 7
Wii (not longer works)
PS3
DS (not longer works)
PSP (not longer works)

Gen 8
Wii U (not longer works)
PS Vita
3DS (not longer works)

SicSlayer posted...

ya it's my fault their shit doesn't work with my drivers

typical PC self righteous douche bag

imagine complaining while still being able to play a 14 year old game originally released during the ps3/360 era.

you should definitely do the big brain consolite move and throw out your computer, track down a ps3/360 + original copy of the game and enjoy the non-PC self righteous experience. that'll teach the rest of us what true idiocy is

SicSlayer posted...

ya it's my fault their shit doesn't work with my drivers

typical PC self righteous douche bag

it works fine with mine

what OS/video card are you using?

You have to look at it this way. You build a PC to do more than just gaming. If you have a PS5 and XB Series X your pretty much set outside of PC only titles, and most of those titles you can get away with a 1k computer as they don't usually have high system specs.

UnicornRaline posted...

Find me a gaming PC that includes everything it needs to run out of the box for $600 that can maintain 1440p 60fps on modern games.

Man I gotta over $2k PC with a 4080, games like Dragons Dogma 2 and Starfield still struggled on it. Id hate to see how a $600 PC handles those games tbh.

hyperpowder posted...

Man I gotta over $2k PC with a 4080, games like Dragons Dogma 2 and Starfield still struggled on it. Id hate to see how a $600 PC handles those games tbh.

What settings were you targeting and what is your definition of struggling here?

Maybe it's a good ego boost? You can tell yourself that you're better than everyone else and insult others a bit easier

Yes. You can't play all the adult visual novels on a console.

There is no reason at all tc

Remember this playing on Playstation means paying for online, if a person wants to play online. There is no end.

PS4 still requires subscription, even though the PS5 is the current console.
PS4 and PS5 will still require subscription to play online, even when the PS6 is out.

Normal games that are classic require subscription.

BignutzisBack posted...

No, PC gaming is a dying platform

Lol, good one.

Anyways, as somebody who has PC, PS5 and switch? Save up and go PC next gen. If you only usually focus on one platform then PC is the ideal choice. Even with the options I have available to me easily 90% of my gaming is done on PC.

reincarnator07 posted...

Mod it for an hour VS literally no way to play it on ps5 aside from streaming through PS+, which is more expensive than just buying the game on Steam. I'm not gonna deny that the game was and is buggy, but at least you have the option to play it. It also looks and runs better and can be modded. Yeah, PC has the superior experience there.

OP: Yes. Games look and run better, mods, backwards compatibility is orders of magnitude better, you have way more options for controllers for games and you have PC exclusives as well as entire genres that just don't exist on consoles. It's also surprisingly affordable over time compared to its reputation, although the upfront cost is absolutely higher than a console.

Whether that's worth it to you is a lot more subjective, but there are tons of features you only get on PC.

Games that gets poor ports or rushed out is not possible to fix like Sonic Adventure DX HD and Sonic 06.
If a game is bad for whatever reason, they can't use mods on console.

Some games like A Hat In Time the publisher can enable mods on the PC, to give gamers extra option to make a great game even better. On console that isn't possible.

Switch can't play any games on the Wii U/3DS, even if it has the emulator required.
The same applies to the PS5 unable to play games on the PS1, PS2, PS3 and PSP.

Console gamers be like "I just like this" and PC gamers take that very very personally

Mods and cheats are the main draw for PC for me. There are some games I wouldn't have played without that.

pinky0926 posted...

Console gamers be like "I just like this" and PC gamers take that very very personally

Pretty much is always the case, lol.

I have a desktop PC (and a steam deck) but I still prefer to game on consoles. The PC is mainly used for gaming purposes to play smaller indie games that isn't available on consoles yet (stuff like the indie horror game them and us or the warioland-like pizza tower), or in river city ransom underground's case never will be, to play around with mods (which isn't all too often for me nowadays), or if I am retro gaming via emulators.

The smaller game/indie game and retro gaming thing can easily be done with just a steamdeck.

pinky0926 posted...

Console gamers be like "I just like this" and PC gamers take that very very personally

I have been a console gamer way longer than I have been a pc gamer. I been playing on console since the SNES/Sega Mega Drive.
I got into PC in the PS4 gen, basically during Generation 8.

Right now I have a PC and Nintendo Switch.

supermichael11 posted...

Games that gets poor ports or rushed out is not possible to fix like Sonic Adventure DX HD and Sonic 06.

Depends on the game. Dark Souls PTD is an infamously terrible port, but it was fixed basically on release by modders.