Board 8 > Fandom bans politics on GameFAQs (outside of Current Events)

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HaRRicH
04/19/24 12:30:57 AM
#451:


Wanglicious posted...
news is politics, politics is banned, news isn't, so ???.

Yeah, this is a lot of the problem. We can talk about red-orange as long as we don't talk about orange-red, right. Can't talk about war, but we can make Minecraft analogies about who's dropping Creepers on servers. They banned political talk yet didn't plan for this enough to remove the Politics flair.

(please don't remove the Politics flair)

Politics is banned on a HISTORIC day for politics, mind you -- Donald Trump's court case began that day as publicly scheduled, which can be interpreted as its own political action by Fandom -- and we can't talk about that?

Even when you have examples and clarify where you can regarding rules, like...its roll-out seemed unplanned, politically timed, confusing, and unwanted.

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-hotdogturtle--
04/19/24 1:03:40 AM
#452:


Kenri posted...
If like 100 people from this board all went to CE at once to discuss politics I wonder if that would be allowed or if it would constitute board invasion.
Well the highest level admin on the site told people to go there, so I think you'd have a case. Not like you'd be able to contest it if you got suspended lmao

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MoogleKupo141
04/19/24 1:14:51 AM
#453:


Im tempted to just make a topic there called B8 =Politics Topic and then Ill just block any regular CE user who shows up

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Yesmar_
04/19/24 1:29:40 AM
#454:


What about a Secret Board? Is someone really going to enforce this rule on a random Atari 7800 Board?

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KamikazePotato
04/19/24 1:32:00 AM
#455:


Yesmar_ posted...
What about a Secret Board? Is someone really going to enforce this rule on a random Atari 7800 Board?
If you let in/notify the wrong person, they'll start marking posts and alert the mods

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red13n
04/19/24 1:33:58 AM
#456:


TeamRocketElite posted...
Historically (all 3 days of it), political topics outside of CE are deleted for off topic. Political posts inside topics are deleted for Disruptive or Other with an explanation of the new rule about politics. As the rule is new, there's isn't really a dedicated category for it at this time.
To be clear, it isn't that the rule is new, its "the rule was enacted without abruptly and without any thought".

It is atypical for new rules to not fit into a category.

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red13n
04/19/24 2:02:48 AM
#457:


Wanglicious posted...
mean it still runs the issue that the news is politics, politics is banned, news isn't, so ???.

like this isn't even a hypothetical with something as basic as poll of the day - internet privacy is highly political, we had a poll on it in January earlier this year, and it's blatantly because of the Google court case with a 5 billion dollar settlement.

it took the news then asked a political question - internet privacy - with multiple different answers.

there's no guideline or explanation whatsoever on how news can be covered really. intentionally broad sure but still really dumb at best, an asshole move at worst.
the answer was basically "news was allowed but dont venture into politics" but it mostly circles back to "news is not allowed" since you pretty much cant discuss it in the slightest.

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red13n
04/19/24 2:23:13 AM
#458:


The whole rollout here pretty much reeks of ineptitude. We haven't even gotten great clarification on what "no hornyposting" means either. Best I can tell you cant even get to the line of "x is hot" and we have to post like we are all 12.

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Kenri
04/19/24 2:42:26 AM
#459:


Ah but you see, if they actually say what qualifies then they'll be held to their word about it.

Much better to just have two admins babble randomly and constantly contradict themselves and each other before shutting down the discussion entirely.

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red13n
04/19/24 2:57:35 AM
#460:


Like, in some ways that might have made sense. Some of the stuff rolling around on CE was getting pretty explicit image-wise when I looked over. I think there was a reasonable line to be drawn(Or redrawn) and yet it doesn't seem like even that token effort was made.

This was a rule that felt like it modernized with the relative age of our userbase but looks like the rope may have been pulled all the way back to the early 2000s.

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AriaOfBolo
04/19/24 7:22:52 AM
#461:


PeaceFrog posted...
Do we have 100 people here who even play minecraft on a regular basis?

and have never been purg'd? I don't think I have access after that Ma Chao incident in like the 2000s

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HaRRicH
04/19/24 8:49:14 AM
#462:


"I know it when I see it."

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LusterSoldier
04/19/24 9:01:56 AM
#463:


We have these posts from 2 different mods confirming the new rules were introduced without any prior warning from Fandom beforehand:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80749420/979964097
These rules are new to the moderation team just as they are to everyone else. Which means moderations are not going to be perfect at first. Disputing them, is important because it gets the moderation in front of more moderator eyes to catch where mistakes were made so we can collectively be better at enforcing the rules which, will help everyone have a better idea of what it allowed. Because I agree, right now it feels a bit chaotic.


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80749420/979974599
We have asked that clearer guidelines be published, both for userbase reference as well as ours. I don't know when that's coming. I tried to provide a generalized guideline in a previous topic which basically amounted to don't objectify individuals. I think there is a level of moderator discretion that will come into play, and I wouldn't expect a detailed breakdown of each and every possible infraction. It will be a learning curve for us all and direction has been given to provide some leniency as this is navigated.

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foolm0r0n
04/19/24 9:07:24 AM
#464:


God CE is so boring

The travesty of such site wide drama being caused by... that

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transience
04/19/24 12:43:09 PM
#466:


feels like the only way to enforce this is to enforce topicality on all boards and just remove general social boards. good luck!

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foolm0r0n
04/19/24 12:51:45 PM
#467:


B8 can be topical if that's what it takes to survive

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Hey_Mister
04/19/24 1:02:16 PM
#468:


Hey_Mister posted...
So like the policy only bans political topics but not posts about politics
If the mods aren't sure what's going on I'm just going to point out that as far as I know this is still true...

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Hey_Mister
04/19/24 1:06:25 PM
#469:


Or wait maybe they banned "political topics" meaning "subjects relating to politics" and not "forum topics about politics"?

What a circus.

I mean they probably meant to ban all types of political discussion regardless but they still have to actually communicate that before it makes sense to enforce it.

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Kenri
04/19/24 1:07:38 PM
#470:


Hey_Mister posted...
If the mods aren't sure what's going on I'm just going to point out that as far as I know this is still true...
It's not. Posts about politics have been deleted in topics that have been left alone.

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GTM
04/19/24 1:15:00 PM
#471:


Hey_Mister posted...
I mean they probably meant to ban all types of political discussion regardless but they still have to actually communicate that before it makes sense to enforce it.

or they said exactly what they meant at the time because they didnt think it through, they just blanket statemented "no politics" and now they're making it up as they go

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transience
04/19/24 1:28:06 PM
#472:


foolm0r0n posted...
B8 can be topical if that's what it takes to survive

hard to be topical without a contest in the last 5 or whatever years!

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Leonhart4
04/19/24 1:28:43 PM
#473:


transience posted...
hard to be topical without a contest in the last 5 or whatever years!

Just means Fandom will have to start running contests

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transience
04/19/24 1:37:53 PM
#474:


Leonhart4 posted...
Just means Fandom will have to start running contests

I like it. let's ban politics and vote for Link

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Leonhart4
04/19/24 1:50:04 PM
#475:


Reestablish the LAW

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foolm0r0n
04/19/24 2:22:55 PM
#476:


transience posted...
hard to be topical without a contest in the last 5 or whatever years!
I believe in us

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Seginustemple
04/19/24 5:02:28 PM
#477:


I notice the site still runs political ads. That's gonna be cute when election season heats up

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LusterSoldier
04/20/24 2:49:35 AM
#478:


red_sox_777 posted...
When did the URL change? Was it under CNet?


The last time the URL changed was back in 2018.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/6-gamefaqs-announcements/76289961

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swirIdude
04/20/24 1:49:54 PM
#479:


Seginustemple posted...
I notice the site still runs political ads. That's gonna be cute when election season heats up
No politics unless you pay Fandom.

So expect this to be a feature in GameFAQs Gold.

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04/21/24 5:36:40 PM
#480:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
Im tempted to just make a topic there called B8 =Politics Topic and then Ill just block any regular CE user who shows up
This is, allegedly, allowed according to one mod.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/10-ask-the-mods/80752550

Edit: 2 mods

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FFDragon
04/21/24 5:56:34 PM
#481:


And to that I counter:

fuck fandom

I'm not going to CE

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AriaOfBolo
04/21/24 6:23:43 PM
#482:


FFDragon posted...
And to that I counter:

fuck fandom

I'm not going to CE

I don't think I could if I wanted to. But I don't want to. Thanks for getting that clarity at least tho!

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MoogleKupo141
04/21/24 6:33:46 PM
#483:


its obviously suboptimal, but if I make it and just block any rando who tries to post in it it could basically be the same as the topic here

Ill block every CE regular if I have to. Im willing to sacrifice seeing the posts of all those cool people. For you.

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ChaosTonyV4
04/21/24 6:34:32 PM
#484:


-hotdogturtle-- posted...
This is, allegedly, allowed according to one mod.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/10-ask-the-mods/80752550

Edit: 2 mods

This just solidifies how stupid the rule is, lmao.

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XIII_Rocks
04/21/24 6:57:16 PM
#485:


FFDragon posted...
And to that I counter:

fuck fandom

I'm not going to CE

Yeah like

Blocking literally every non-B8er might work but what an absurd fucking solution when, again, we HAD ONE POLITICS TOPIC

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Leafeon13N
04/21/24 7:30:31 PM
#486:


Are we allowed to link to the topic from this board. Its ridiculous but we could theoretically have a topic here for the link to the topic there.

And then someone uses an extraneous account to ban people we dont want.

Still fucking stupid though.

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Dancedreamer
04/21/24 7:35:19 PM
#487:


"We don't want people talking about politics on gamefaqs. Also, we recognize Current Events is a toxic cesspool. So our solution is to limit politics to topics on that cesspool. Because that makes total sense. How do you do fellow people who interact with people on a regular basis?"

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GANON1025
04/21/24 7:37:11 PM
#488:


If this plan actually worked it'd be so stupid

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Leafeon13N
04/21/24 7:40:08 PM
#489:


DToast actually logged back in after almost 48 hours gone.

Timmy probably gone for good we are way too insignificant for him.

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NFUN
04/21/24 7:47:41 PM
#490:


XIII_Rocks posted...
Yeah like

Blocking literally every non-B8er might work but what an absurd fucking solution when, again, we HAD ONE POLITICS TOPIC
it is, however, also a very funny solution

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04/21/24 7:49:25 PM
#491:


Leafeon13N posted...
DToast actually logged back in after almost 48 hours gone.
His internet lines might have been frozen for a while. Who knows what their infrastructure is like over in the extreme cold that is Minnesota.

I don't expect that many people (from here or other boards) will actually migrate their entire politics general topics to CE, but I wanted to at least confirm that that's what the administration expected them to do.

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HaRRicH
04/21/24 10:02:19 PM
#492:


FFDragon posted...
And to that I counter:

fuck fandom

I'm not going to CE


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neonreaper
04/21/24 10:07:07 PM
#493:


Joe Biden likes ice cream

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Leafeon13N
04/21/24 11:22:33 PM
#494:


I appreciate that when you type "fuck fandom" into google it knows you are talking about the website and not some concept of fandom.
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HaRRicH
04/21/24 11:30:05 PM
#495:


It's all that good SEO Fandom bought when they got us.

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mnk
04/21/24 11:30:32 PM
#496:


I would first think that it would be about fans of fucking.

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red13n
04/22/24 12:03:58 AM
#497:


Yeah, I thought it would be about how fandom in general is terrible, or it would go NSFW.

But no the website is that fucking shit.

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redrocket
04/22/24 12:05:34 AM
#498:


Good night, sweet prince.

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MoogleKupo141
04/22/24 12:06:11 AM
#499:


im a member of the fuck fandom, and I say fuck Fandom! for ruining our fuck wiki

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redrocket
04/22/24 12:06:45 AM
#500:


And flights of angles sing thee to thy rest.

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