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Garioshi
04/07/24 4:48:43 PM
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Some people are gay or trans or any other number of things and don't feel the need to announce it to the world, and there is nothing wrong with that. The same should go for fictional characters and (I don't know why this needs to be said) celebrities. You do not need to perform your identity in order to be valid.

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Fluttershy
04/07/24 4:49:42 PM
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oof

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AnsestralRecall
04/07/24 4:50:20 PM
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Fuck that. I will not be silenced to placate your desire to not see us.

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StealThisSheen
04/07/24 4:51:00 PM
#4:


Garioshi posted...
Some people are gay or trans or any other number of things and don't feel the need to announce it to the world, and there is nothing wrong with that. The same should go for fictional characters and (I don't know why this needs to be said) celebrities. You do not need to perform your identity in order to be valid.

You're one of those people mad about 9-1-1, aren't you?

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Vicious_Dios
04/07/24 4:51:30 PM
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What prompted this topic, tc?

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CountCorvinus
04/07/24 4:54:03 PM
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Shut the fuck up

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Tig
04/07/24 4:54:12 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Some people are gay or trans or any other number of things and don't feel the need to announce it to the world, and there is nothing wrong with that. The same should go for fictional characters and (I don't know why this needs to be said) celebrities. You do not need to perform your identity in order to be valid.


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LeoRavus
04/07/24 4:56:01 PM
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Posting in homophobic topic

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Turbam
04/07/24 4:56:56 PM
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We should, but we're not there yet.
Doing so would make the other side think that they "scared them back into the closet, like god intended" or some bullshit like that.

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super_felicia
04/07/24 4:57:10 PM
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If they want to share their sexuality, why not?
if they want to share their pronouns let them.
If they are making being gay or lesbian their personality in your eyes so be it. Just dont make a fuss about it and let them do whatever its their life not yours do what you like and stop criticising why do you care enough to make a topic theyre not effecting your life whatsoever

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KiwiTerraRizing
04/07/24 4:57:11 PM
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I dont care if anyone wants to announce it but I dont care either way. None of my business.

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Umbreon
04/07/24 4:57:30 PM
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Things TC had never said to a straight person.

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radical_rhino
04/07/24 4:58:35 PM
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Agreed, society should do away with the homophobic notion that people need to out themselves. As if everyone is assumed to be straight until they announce otherwise.

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BalanceLost
04/07/24 4:59:00 PM
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Yeah, all the straight people should stop rubbing their sexuality in everyones faces.

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DnDer
04/07/24 4:59:02 PM
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Garioshi posted...
Some people are gay or trans or any other number of things and don't feel the need to announce it to the world, and there is nothing wrong with that. The same should go for fictional characters and (I don't know why this needs to be said) celebrities. You do not need to perform your identity in order to be valid.

Gonna guess you wouldn't fill out the name tag, would you?

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splodeymissile
04/07/24 4:59:11 PM
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Their desire to be open, honest and proud is more important than your desire to be ignorant.

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Gwynevere
04/07/24 4:59:15 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/63511969.jpg

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kage_53
04/07/24 4:59:42 PM
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As soon as I clicked the thread, I expected CEman with pitchforks pointed at op and I was not disappointed lol
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StealThisSheen
04/07/24 4:59:43 PM
#20:


radical_rhino posted...
Agreed, society should do away with the homophobic notion that people need to out themselves. As if everyone is assumed to be straight until they announce otherwise.

Congratulations, you have literally just posted the worst post I have ever read.

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Ryangrad
04/07/24 4:59:43 PM
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I'm pretty sure I've seen Garioshi dressed as in traditionally leaning "male" and "female" clothing. So this could just be about him feeling like he doesn't have to announce or "come out" as anything, nor does anyone else. Not in a shaming way, but in a "my own business what I do" way.

But I could be wrong.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/07/24 4:59:49 PM
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Very curious as to what prompted this.

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StealThisSheen
04/07/24 5:00:47 PM
#23:


kage_53 posted...
As as I clicked the thread, I expected CEman with pitchforks pointed at op and I was not disappointed lol

So why are you, personally, upset when people/characters decide to proudly proclaim who they are? Please explain.

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Garioshi
04/07/24 5:00:54 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
What prompted this topic, tc?
The 9-1-1 topic, obviously, but I know nothing about the context. I'm talking much more generally about angry mobs of terminally online people demanding that authors stop "queer baiting" by not explicitly stating a character's identities, and even more specifically about that demand actual human beings announce their identities because they're otherwise "appropriating" an identity that they may be in proximity to. If we want to treat not being straight or cis like the unexceptional things that they are, we should not have the expectation that they MUST be announced.

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GranQroppoop
04/07/24 5:01:10 PM
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Lot of people come out so they can find out if people in their life have a problem with it before they bring their partner to a family function.

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StealThisSheen
04/07/24 5:01:16 PM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Very curious as to what prompted this.

Based on the timing, and since TC specifically mentioned fictional characters, the 9-1-1 thing.

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BearlyWilling
04/07/24 5:01:39 PM
#27:


And @Garioshi was never seen again

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Garioshi
04/07/24 5:02:19 PM
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super_felicia posted...
If they want to share their sexuality, why not?
if they want to share their pronouns let them.
If they are making being gay or lesbian their personality in your eyes so be it. Just dont make a fuss about it and let them do whatever its their life not yours do what you like and stop criticising why do you care enough to make a topic theyre not effecting your life whatsoever
I have not said anything to the contrary in this topic.

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TMOG
04/07/24 5:02:21 PM
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DnDer
04/07/24 5:02:58 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
As if everyone is assumed to be straight until they announce otherwise.

Everyone is.

It's a problem in fiction, too. The default protagonist in readers heads is cishet white dude unless explicitly named and described otherwise.

When we get rid of that kind of thing as an assumption, then we can move on to the other part of your idea that no one needs to be "out" and proud because it's been normalized.

Little things help get us there, like when straight people say "partner" instead of "wife/husband/bf/gf" and so on.

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StealThisSheen
04/07/24 5:03:32 PM
#31:


Garioshi posted...
The 9-1-1 topic, obviously, but I know nothing about the context.

I'm gonna spoil this for you: The character didn't "announce" they were bi. They just... Ended up being bi, and it was "revealed" by a character relationship. But them merely existing, as a bisexual character, is considered "announcing" it to people like you, apparently.

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ThisIsAKnoife
04/07/24 5:04:11 PM
#32:


TC what are your thoughts on the advent of LGBTQ+ characters in media today?

Id be willing to bet I know the answer

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kage_53
04/07/24 5:04:27 PM
#33:


StealThisSheen posted...
So why are you, personally, upset when people/characters decide to proudly proclaim who they are? Please explain.
Im not Be whoever you want and have sex whoever you want idgaf. Im just saying the reaction to the op was expected.
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DnDer
04/07/24 5:04:35 PM
#34:


kage_53 posted...
As soon as I clicked the thread, I expected CEman with pitchforks pointed at op and I was not disappointed lol

He kinda earned it the way he framed his premise.

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StealThisSheen
04/07/24 5:05:40 PM
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kage_53 posted...
Im not Be whoever you want and have sex whoever you want idgaf. Im just saying the reaction to the op was expected.

Yes, because he's apparently getting upset over a character in a show, that he doesn't even watch, kissing another man.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/07/24 5:06:22 PM
#36:


So TC really saw that a character is bi on a tv show, and then with 0 context made this topic.

Interesting.

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splodeymissile
04/07/24 5:06:57 PM
#37:


If the greatest example you can find of an apparent societal problem is the terminally online crowd, then, maybe you should seriously consider whether you share a similar problem.

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Guide
04/07/24 5:07:22 PM
#38:


Of course CE would try to twist tc's message into an awful thing with a quick jerk of the knee.

DnDer posted...
He kinda earned it the way he framed his premise.

He didn't. This isn't at all about "hide your identity please I don't wanna see it", which should be plain to anyone with fucking eyeballs. But y'all had the pitchforks ready before opening the title.

It is literally, as TC said, about people not owing it, and not needing to validate themselves, by making their identity explicit. People are allowed to want to keep that implicit for their own reasons, whether because of safety or personal comfort or whatever weird personal thing I can't think of or comprehend. That shouldn't make them less valid.

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Garioshi
04/07/24 5:07:32 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
I'm gonna spoil this for you: The character didn't "announce" they were bi. They just... Ended up being bi, and it was "revealed" by a character relationship. But them merely existing, as a bisexual character, is considered "announcing" it to people like you, apparently.
Where have I said a single negative word about this specific instance or ANY instance of a character or person's identity being announced in the topic

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ssb_yunglink2
04/07/24 5:09:28 PM
#40:


Guide posted...
Of course CE would try to twist tc's message into an awful thing with a quick jerk of the knee.

He didn't.
You dont find it questionable that this topic was literally only made because TC found out a tv character is bi?

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StealThisSheen
04/07/24 5:09:28 PM
#41:


Guide posted...
Of course CE would try to twist tc's message into an awful thing with a quick jerk of the knee.

He didn't.

He, quite literally, admitted that he did.

He made this topic based on finding out there's a bisexual character in 9-1-1, from a topic on this board, and he doesn't even watch the show.

Garioshi posted...
Vicious_Dios posted...
What prompted this topic, tc?
The 9-1-1 topic, obviously, but I know nothing about the context.

Wanna rethink your post, here?


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IfGodCouldDie
04/07/24 5:09:57 PM
#42:


Garioshi posted...
Some people are gay or trans or any other number of things and don't feel the need to announce it to the world, and there is nothing wrong with that. The same should go for fictional characters and (I don't know why this needs to be said) celebrities. You do not need to perform your identity in order to be valid.
Unfortunately there is not enough widespread acceptance for it not to matter yet.

Also the issue isn't a person revealing how they identify in anyway, it's how people react to a person revealing that information in anyway. If we lived in a society where no one truly cared about another's identity you would never notice when it was done because it would be normalized.

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Guide
04/07/24 5:10:14 PM
#43:


I'll repost cause I was too late on the edit:

It is literally, as TC said, about people not owing it, and not needing to validate themselves, by making their identity explicit. People are allowed to want to keep that implicit for their own reasons, whether because of safety or personal comfort or whatever weird personal thing I can't think of or comprehend. That shouldn't make them lessvalid.

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ssb_yunglink2
04/07/24 5:11:54 PM
#44:


Guide posted...
I'll repost cause I was too late on the edit:

It is literally, as TC said, about people not owing it, and not needing to validate themselves, by making their identity explicit. People are allowed to want to keep that implicit for their own reasons, whether because of safety or personal comfort or whatever weird personal thing I can't think of or comprehend. That shouldn't make them lessvalid.
which again, is a good message on its own, but very suspect when its only being said because tc found out a character was announced as bi

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Fluttershy
04/07/24 5:11:57 PM
#45:


Where have I said a single negative word about this specific instance or ANY instance of a character or person's identity being announced in the topic

when you said there was 'absolutely nothing wrong' about not sharing your identity you implied that there was something wrong with those who do.

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StealThisSheen
04/07/24 5:12:02 PM
#46:


Guide posted...
I'll repost cause I was too late on the edit:

The TC literally admitted they made this topic based on 9-1-1, a show they don't even watch.

You're not looking too good here, chief.

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DnDer
04/07/24 5:12:51 PM
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Guide posted...
He didn't.

He did.

"They shouldn't need to announce it to the world," sure feels like another flavor of, "They don't need to flaunt it and shove it in my face."

And if that's not what he meant, then, as I said, he framed it very poorly and had that reaction coming.

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Dudebusters
04/07/24 5:14:08 PM
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lmfao Guide rushed in to defend the tc so fast that he didn't even read the topic first. Wow. Way to mask off.

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Guide
04/07/24 5:15:39 PM
#49:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
which again, is a good message on its own, but very suspect when its only being said because tc found out a character was announced as bi

StealThisSheen posted...
The TC literally admitted they made this topic based on 9-1-1, a show they don't even watch.

You're not looking to good here, chief.

So tc saw a topic and got to thinking, and made this topic. And you assume, because of your poor reading comprehension and predilection to be ready for a firefight with anything on the internet, that it only has the worst intentions. Never mind what tc has actually said.

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Umbreon
04/07/24 5:16:07 PM
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Guide posted...
Of course CE would try to twist tc's message into an awful thing with a quick jerk of the knee.

TC made this topic as a knee-jerk response to finding out a character in a show they don't even watch is bisexual.

It just seems like a weird reaction if they genuinely don't have a problem with it.

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