Current Events > So the only knock on Biden is his age?

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ClayGuida posted...

I actually disagree with biden not having charisma. He's a personable guy. Most people who meet and talk to him dont have a bad thing to say about him.

Now I get that charisma is subjective, but I personally think that's a part of charisma.

You can say the same thing about a grandpa in a senior citizens care home.

ButteryMales posted...

The topic creator only made like 3 short posts. His question was answered on post #5.

Could the topic creator honestly not know Biden's involvement in the genocide? Yes. He could also be playing dumb for light genocide denial trolling.

Yes, and then the conversation continued from there. At no point have I ever been talking about anything other than not voting for Trump. Its not my fault you guys cant stay on topic and keep trying to twist what Im saying into god knows what other thing.

Bass_X0 posted...

You can say the same thing about a grandpa in a senior citizens care home.

Y yes. You could. They could have charisma. What exactly is your point?

Zonbei posted...

it is hilarious you seem to think Im some kind of centrist.

It is hilarious how much you're making yourself sound like one.

Zonbei posted...

i do want the genocide to stop. If Biden could make it happen, I would want him to. I just dont believe he can.

Because you're choosing to ignore all the evidence-based reasons why he can, or very possibly can, that have been pointed out to you.

Zonbei posted...

I can just as easily (more easily really) claim you dont really care and just want to find reasons to tell people not to vote for Biden, so.

Well, no, you can't, because I've never done that, whereas you have tried to absolve Biden of complicity in the mass murder in Gaza (he provides weapons and money when has the power not to, he's fucking complicit).

Zonbei posted...

I am not insisting bombs must be sent or Trump wins. I am not even saying its false that Biden could do those things youre listing. Im saying I dont think it would actually stop the genocide.

Even if it wouldn't, the only position it would make any sense for you to hold, if you're sincere in what you claim to believe, is that he should do it anyway. What would be the downside if he did?

Zonbei posted...

Y yes. You could. They could have charisma. What exactly is your point?

Some people belong in a senior citizens care home even if they are personable and do have charisma.

Zonbei posted...

At no point have I ever been talking about anything other than not voting for Trump.

No one cares about your involvement and intentions more than they have to.

Zonbei posted...

the conversation continued from there.

It was pointed out Biden's involvement in genocide in post #5. We're still having the conversation from before you even posted.

Zonbei posted...

Its not my fault you guys cant stay on topic and keep trying to twist what Im saying into god knows what other thing.

You quote posted post #5. So it is your fault.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

It is hilarious how much you're making yourself sound like one.

Because you're choosing to ignore all the evidence-based reasons why he can, or very possibly can, that have been pointed out to you.

Well, no, you can't, because I've never done that, whereas you have tried to absolve Biden of complicity in the mass murder in Gaza (he provides weapons and money when has the power not to, he's fucking complicit).

Even if it wouldn't, the only position it would make any sense for you to hold, if you're sincere in what you claim to believe, is that he should do it anyway. What would be the downside if he did?

Did I ever say he shouldnt? What the fuck are you talking about? Youre arguing with an imaginary person. I said that people shouldnt let Trump win, that I dont think Biden can end the genocide single-handedly, and that I suspect its more complex than its being made out to be. Id love if Biden did literally anything to help. He has ALREADY done more than Trump ever would, and I acknowledge that, while still understanding he could do more.

So what the fuck are you even talking about?

Zonbei posted...

Did I ever say he shouldnt?

Yes, repeatedly.

Zonbei posted...

Youre arguing with an imaginary person.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ec5aefbc.jpg

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

Yes, repeatedly.

Straight up just lying at this point. You arent even trying.

shnangyboos posted...

Have y'all determined which side is most pure and moral yet?

It's always hilarious when chuds try to take the moral high ground.

Zonbei posted...

Straight up just lying at this point.

I'm not, though, am I? It's in your very first post in this topic:

Zonbei posted...

He has actively been trying to get our ally, who we cannot disavow for many serious (albeit shitty) world politics reasons

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

I'm not, though, am I? It's in your very first post in this topic:

Do you understand the English language? Do you understand the difference between shouldnt and can not? Hint: the latter has nothing to do with my personal fucking opinions.

Zonbei posted...

Do you understand the English language? Do you understand the difference between shouldnt and can not? Hint: the latter has nothing to do with my personal fucking opinions.

It's still just your opinion we cannot disavow Israel.

When you said (albeit shitty) you meant it morally when the reasons are actually qualitative. The reasons are stupid and shitty.

Zonbei posted...

Do you understand the English language? Do you understand the difference between shouldnt and can not? Hint: the latter has nothing to do with my personal fucking opinions.

Except you've already had it pointed out to you, at length (and with no rebuttal beyond "it's complicated"), that the "cannot" isn't, in fact, true. So it looks very much like a flimsy cover for your personal fucking opinions.

Sufferedphoenix posted...

More than that he sometimes says some random weird shit sometimes he acts like he doesn't even know where he is.

Trumps not too much better. Trump seems more aware on a regular basis but it seems his mind has went in a different way.

I feel there should be a age cap for politicians. And for more reasons than this. I feel we shouldn't be letting people who are gonna be gone soon getting to fuck around with the world we still gotta live in for a long time.

Joke post

ButteryMales posted...

It's still just your opinion we cannot disavow Israel.

When you said (albeit shitty) you meant it morally when the reasons are actually qualitative. The reasons are stupid and shitty.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

Except you've already had it pointed out to you, at length (and with no rebuttal beyond "it's complicated"), that the "cannot" isn't, in fact, true. So it looks very much like a flimsy cover for your personal fucking opinions.

Its not my opinion. Its pretty blatantly obvious and has nothing to do with my personal feelings. At worst, Im wrong, but thats STILL NOT AN OPINION. You people literally have just lost all context for what an opinion is, havent you?

You have not pointed out at length why actually its totally feasible to disavow Israel and wouldnt cause any problems. You have said ways it could be done (ways which would not necessarily stop the genocide, which was my previous point before your inability to stick to a topic got us here.) That is it. One of us is wrong about whether there are things stopping it from happening other than Joe Biden is evil or whatever your explanation is. Neither of our stances is an opinion, which you would know if you had any idea what the word meant.

My OPINION is that genocide is horrible and should be stopped immediately at all costs. My OPINION is that Joe Biden sucks. My UNDERSTANDING OF THE WORLD is that there are factors that mean Joe Biden cant single-handedly make that happen, and America is not willing to pay the costs. My further UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY is that letting Trump win WILL make things worse.

You disagree about some of this. Maybe stick to doing that, instead of making up bullshit about personal views.

Zonbei posted...

At worst, Im wrong

You're wrong. There's no need to argue whether it's an opinion. This tangent you've taking us on is a waste of time.

ButteryMales posted...

You're wrong. There's no need to argue whether it's an opinion. This tangent you've taking us on is a waste of time.

Ah yes. I took us on this tangent, by accusing myself of not wanting a genocide stopped. That makes perfect sense, if you cant read because youre a disingenuous little baby.

Zonbei posted...

Ah yes. I took us on this tangent,

Ctrl + F Opinion

Oh look Zonbei said it first.

Zonbei posted...

if you cant read because youre a disingenuous little baby.

You shouldn't throw stones in glass houses. If this warning was pasted on the walls of your glass house you'd still throw stones because you can't read.

ButteryMales posted...

Ctrl + F Opinion

Oh look Zonbei said it first.

You shouldn't throw stones in glass houses. If this warning was pasted on the walls of your glass house you'd still throw stones because you can't read.

Are you seriously trying to claim that I started the conversation/topic/debate over this particular thing because I first used the specific word opinion while responding to Thanatos claiming that something was my personal desire or ideal situation when it was not? You know.. like an opinion? The thing he was going on about? That it was an opinion?

You are the absolute worst kind of person. Not only are you a disingenuous troll and all around sort of a bad person, but youre being pedantic. Ugh.

Followed by a no u despite the fact you have not even a single time been correct while trying to make it seem like I am reading something wrong or lack understanding. Christ. Go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.

Ctrl + F personal ClayGuida then Zonbei
Ctrl + F desire Zonbei
Ctrl + F ideal Zonbei
Ctrl + F situation Zonbei

Just give me the exact synonym for opinion that Thanatos allegedly said.

I doubt you know what a synonym is.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/synonym

ButteryMales posted...

Ctrl + F personal ClayGuida then Zonbei
Ctrl + F desire Zonbei
Ctrl + F ideal Zonbei
Ctrl + F situation Zonbei

Just give me the exact synonym for opinion that Thanatos allegedly said.

I doubt you know what a synonym is.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/synonym

When he claimed that I said Biden SHOULDNT do anything about Israel. A word which means he is claiming that its my personal opinion Biden shouldnt. Because thats how words work.

Given Ive already explained this multiple times, your continued attempts to go no u and pretend like Im an idiot because I said YOU cant read are sort of falling flat.

inb4 you go but thats not a direct synonym! you have failed at the specific task I arbitrarily set you, and thus I win, even though youre actually correct! Because we all know thats coming.