Current Events > So the only knock on Biden is his age?

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shockthemonkey posted...

Your gimmick sucks, ignoring a binary choice is stupid

Not being harsher with a country committing genocide is what's actually stupid.

Zonbei posted...

Ah yes, leading to.. one of the two outcomes anyways, and probably the worse one because the bigots and zealots who want society to be worse for everyone but them and their fascist leader arent going to not vote out of some principle.

What amazing advice. Next youll be telling people to simply not choose if they cant decide between bread and literal dogshit being force-fed to them.

It's a choice from eating a douche, a turd, or neither. I pick neither.

ButteryMales posted...

Not being harsher with a country committing genocide is what's actually stupid.

It's a choice from eating a douche, a turd, or neither. I pick neither.

Oh wow, you quoted South Park! Youre so clever and politically savvy! Thank god you can think for yourself.

There is no neither choice. Youre getting the douche or the turd. All youre doing is leaving the choosing up to everyone else.

Me, Id pick the douche. Its literally just a stream of water (sometimes mixed with vinegar) that only sounds bad. Whereas the other thing is a pile of shit.
wow, this metaphor actually works better than I expected!

In case this isnt clear to you, Trump is the turd, and Biden is the innocuous water youve somehow equated to an actual pile of shit someone is trying to make you eat.

ButteryMales posted...

Not being harsher with a country committing genocide is what's actually stupid.

It's a choice from eating a douche, a turd, or neither. I pick neither.

Except rather than "neither" it's actually letting other people pick one for you.

Ooooooranges posted...

I mean he's actively supporting a genocide but you can conveniently ignore that if you want.

So you hope Trump wins because Biden doesn't support genocide quite as much as republicans do?

ButteryMales posted...

It's a choice from eating a douche, a turd, or neither. I pick neither.

It's not like that at all. It's like the choice between a ham sandwich that has been sitting out for a few days or a slimey piece of dog shit, and if you don't pick one of them will be shoved in your mouth no matter what.

SaikyoStyle posted...

Democrats either dont care about winning elections or theyre gambling that supporting the genocide will cost them fewer votes than opposing it will. If the latter is true, the sad thing is theyre probably right.

Oh fuck off

Zonbei posted...

Oh wow, you quoted South Park! Youre so clever and politically savvy! Thank god you can think for yourself.

There is no neither choice. Youre getting the douche or the turd. All youre doing is leaving the choosing up to everyone else.

Me, Id pick the douche. Its literally just a stream of water (sometimes mixed with vinegar) that only sounds bad. Whereas the other thing is a pile of shit.
wow, this metaphor actually works better than I expected!

In case this isnt clear to you, Trump is the turd, and Biden is the innocuous water youve somehow equated to an actual pile of shit someone is trying to make you eat.

Did I say drink a douche, no. So hope you don't choke on the container.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Except rather than "neither" it's actually letting other people pick one for you.

Fine sure. In the metaphor the whole U.S. eats a douche or a turd. Maybe a political party learns not to take voters for granted.

ButteryMales posted...

Did I say drink a douche, no. So hope you don't choke on the container.

Fine sure. In the metaphor the whole U.S. eats a douche or a turd. Maybe a political party learns not to take voters for granted.

Would frankly still rather eat the container than literal shit.

Yes, in the metaphor the US eats one of two things, one of which is worse. Your last sentence is so ridiculous its basically a non-sequitur.

Zonbei posted...

ButteryMales posted...

Maybe a political party learns not to take voters for granted.

Your last sentence is so ridiculous its basically a non-sequitur.

The whole thing is a joke from South Park. It's supposed to be ridiculous. Not a non-sequitur, they didn't learn from Hillary so maybe they'll learn from Biden.

shockthemonkey posted...

Oh wow theres the ignoring the binary choice again. Guess we shouldnt actively go for the better option because waaaaaaaaa

Crying over a genocide is a pretty good reason to cry.

ButteryMales posted...

The whole thing is a joke from South Park. It's supposed to be ridiculous. Not a non-sequitur, they didn't learn from Hillary so maybe they'll learn from Biden.

Crying over a genocide is a pretty good reason to cry.

I am aware, I literally made fun of you for parroting South Park earlier.

what is the lesson here exactly? Dont field a candidate thats literally better than the other candidate? Democrats should field candidates that wont win anyways to appease voters that will not vote out of spite? Democrats should singlehandedly fix our entire political system right now even as republicans try to overthrow it?

Have you considered that maybe once we can get an even footing without Trump trying to literally destroy democracy, thats a more solid stance to actually change things and field more leftist candidates from? Or do you not care about any strategy that isnt do everything I want right now or else?

Ooooooranges posted...

I mean he's actively supporting a genocide but you can conveniently ignore that if you want.

Still an anti-vaxxer?

He has some other legitimate complaints against him, but they're pretty minor when deflected back at Republicans, who do what we complain about establishment Dems, and so much more, and so much worse.

mybbqrules posted...

Still an anti-vaxxer?

Unfortunately I never did check back in that topic when I asked them what they thought of abortion and prison reform. So they have awful takes on those topics too?

ButteryMales posted...

It's a choice from eating a douche, a turd, or neither. I pick neither.

Cool. Because if the turd wins and his choices are "overthrow democracy" or "not overthrow democracy", I'm sure he'll pick "neither" just like you. Oh wait, he already said he'd "only be a dictator for one day"! Because if there's something dictators are known for, it's voluntarily giving up the power once they have it!

It's amazing to me that people will scream from the rafters about a genocide half a world away involving people they'll never meet or see, while ignoring the very real, documented evidence of a buildup to a genocide in their own fucking country that is simply waiting for the turd to get back into power before it kicks off.

Be sure to tell the minorities and LGBTQ that you were so opposed to a genocide as they're being loaded into the vans. I'm sure they'll appreciate your moral character.

mybbqrules posted...

Be sure to tell the minorities and LGBTQ that you were so opposed to a genocide as they're being loaded into the vans. I'm sure they'll appreciate your moral character.

But he stuck to his guns! Surely that's worth something!

(It's not worth anything)

Bidens bad points:

hes not a rapist
Or a traitor
or a con artist
or someone who said hed have sex with his own daughter
or someone who nearly broke the world with his virus plan
or a guy who eats mcdonalds every day

you know, like a good president

Biden is a career politician who makes a lot of promises and doesn't deliver. Just like Trump. We need term limits and age limits. We need progressives in office. That is the knock against Biden and any other career politician.

maxpkmf posted...

Biden is a career politician who makes a lot of promises and doesn't deliver. Just like Trump. We need term limits and age limits. We need progressives in office. That is the knock against Biden and any other career politician.

Every single thing you said was invalidated by just like Trump.

Zonbei posted...

Dont field a candidate thats literally better than the other candidate?

Just being better wasn't enough for Hillary to win.

Zonbei posted...

Have you considered that maybe once we can get an even footing without Trump trying to literally destroy democracy, thats a more solid stance to actually change things and field more leftist candidates from? Or do you not care about any strategy that isnt do everything I want right now or else?

An even footing isn't enough to get anything done. It's supermajority or nothing in the United States which last came after 8 years of George W. Bush.

shockthemonkey posted...

Youre not crying over a genocide if youre enabling a second one

mybbqrules posted...

Cool. Because if the turd wins and his choices are "overthrow democracy" or "not overthrow democracy", I'm sure he'll pick "neither" just like you. Oh wait, he already said he'd "only be a dictator for one day"! Because if there's something dictators are known for, it's voluntarily giving up the power once they have it!

It's amazing to me that people will scream from the rafters about a genocide half a world away involving people they'll never meet or see, while ignoring the very real, documented evidence of a buildup to a genocide in their own fucking country that is simply waiting for the turd to get back into power before it kicks off.

Be sure to tell the minorities and LGBTQ that you were so opposed to a genocide as they're being loaded into the vans. I'm sure they'll appreciate your moral character.

Can you tell me how this would go down? Does Trump go on TV says "I'm king now."? Trump instead tells a General to make a plan on killing everyone not white?

Trump can't win again and impeachment proof so I think he'll just golf everyday.

It starts by stripping away more rights from minorities, like the GOP is already doing.

Even Hitler wasn't like "Kill the Jews" on day 1. But that was absolutely the intent.

We are not giving Trump a chance to get revenge on everyone.

Umbreon posted...

It starts by stripping away more rights from minorities, like the GOP is already doing.

Even Hitler wasn't like "Kill the Jews" on day 1. But that was absolutely the intent.

We are not giving Trump a chance to get revenge on everyone.

He did a Muslim ban and didn't go on to kill all Muslims in the U.S..

ButteryMales posted...

He did a Muslim ban and didn't go on to kill all Muslims in the U.S..

Could you make it any more obvious that youre either a troll or a Trump supporter?

gu-gohan posted...

Villifying only one side while forgetting what Hamas did to innocents too isn't helping anyone.

The horrifying terrorist attack hamas conducted on Oct 7 in no way justifies or even makes rational the ongoing and deliberate attempts at genocide that Israel is engaging in.

Prismsblade posted...

The entire half year so far has been a knock on Biden frankly, so hard that it alone probably puts him at the bottom tier of presidents in out history.

Abject nonsense.

You should have had the sense to bow out of shitposting and close your account when 261 closed.

Heineken14 posted...

Except people rarely brought up his tweets because nobody gave a shit because they were too busy talking about all the heinous shit he was actually doing.

His tweets were brought up often. Spicer made explicitly clear that statements from his Twitter were active policy statements and "Official Releases from the Office of the President of the United States."

That's why every tweet bordered on a constitutional crisis, depending on the day and his temperament.

Zonbei posted...

Could you make it any more obvious that youre either a troll or a Trump supporter?

I'm not the one saying Trump will kill everyone just with executive orders.

ButteryMales posted...

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Did we get nested quotes back??

DnDer posted...

Did we get nested quotes back??

They don't work with the WYSIWYG editor. I believe if you use old fashioned HTML you can still do them.

ButteryMales posted...

He did a Muslim ban and didn't go on to kill all Muslims in the U.S..

So we should give him the time to hurt more people then? I can't tell if you're being intentionally disingenuous because you want attention, or intentionally disingenuous because you're hoping for a round 2.

If you need to have it explained why the literal neo nazi friendly 'president' should not get to have more power, you aren't eligible for serious conversion.

DnDer posted...

Did we get nested quotes back??

Technically never lost them. I think you have to use plain text(classic) and manually put the quote you want nested back. Never used HTML message box.

Umbreon posted...

So we should give him the time to hurt more people then? I can't tell if you're being intentionally disingenuous because you want attention, or intentionally disingenuous because you're hoping for a round 2.

If you need to have it explained why the literal neo nazi friendly 'president' should not get to have more power, you aren't eligible for serious conversion.

Tell Biden to stop selling weapons to Israel and do whatever he can as head of the Democrats.

He should have done something a long time ago like when the IDF murdered American Journalists.

ButteryMales posted...

Tell Biden to stop selling weapons to Israel and do whatever he can as head of the Democrats.

He should have done something a long time ago like when the IDF murdered American Journalists.

This doesn't justify supporting Trump, especially considering Trump would be an even bigger Israel simp. It only justifies not supporting Biden.

Yeah. Probably should have.

Not voting against Trump is demonstrating that you don't actually give a fuck though, as a Republican win this year means we'll likely be doing far worse than just selling weapons while "technically" not getting involved.

Course, you not addressing the whole nazi problem at home thing already shows there's a lot of lives you don't care about.

Trumble posted...

This doesn't justify supporting Trump, especially considering Trump would be an even bigger Israel simp. It only justifies not supporting Biden.

All I've ever said was don't vote for Biden. If people want to go the extra mile and still not support Biden they should still vote for any down ballot Democrat. If Trump wins, a 51 Democrat majority in the senate is needed to block him from passing anything. At worst maybe 1 Democrat turns traitor for a really shitty reconciliation bill.

You really think rules and regulations are going to be a thing if Trump wins. Like he and the GOP doesn't already have a plan to take over?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025

Umbreon posted...

You really think rules and regulations are going to be a thing if Trump wins.

At what point does he do the "Kill all Muslims" executive order. Does he first bring back his shitty Muslim ban that didn't include Countries he does business in? I don't see that being good for business.

ButteryMales posted...

I'm not the one saying Trump will kill everyone just with executive orders.

Do everyone a favor and research how Hitler rose to power, read about the process that led to the Holocaust, and then shut the hell up.

Trumble posted...

This doesn't justify supporting Trump, especially considering Trump would be an even bigger Israel simp. It only justifies not supporting Biden.

Not supporting Biden is supporting Trump. Thats unfortunately how this works.

Zonbei posted...

Do everyone a favor and research how Hitler rose to power, read about the process that led to the Holocaust, and then shut the hell up.

I should read how Benjamin Netanyahu came into power for a more modern example.

ButteryMales posted...

I should read how Benjamin Netanyahu came into power for a more modern example.

Do yourself a favor and don't have a genuine political conversation on here. Vote Biden and fall in line or you get trolled and ridiculed.

maxpkmf posted...

Do yourself a favor and don't have a genuine political conversation on here. Vote Biden and fall in line or you get trolled and ridiculed.

You're welcome to look stupid like all the people still blaming progressives for Hillary Clinton being a fucking moron not campaigning in battleground states.

ButteryMales posted...

I should read how Benjamin Netanyahu came into power for a more modern example.

Sure. Not clear why you think you were making a point there. Im not pro-Israel.

Zonbei posted...

Sure. Not clear why you think you were making a point there. Im not pro-Israel.

I was agreeing with you. Apparently Netanyahu partnered with the bloodthirstier right than him, if you can believe it, to stay in power. Thankfully, Biden can't just team up with Trump in the United States.

ButteryMales posted...

I was agreeing with you. Apparently Netanyahu partnered with the bloodthirstier right than him, if you can believe it, to stay in power. Thankfully, Biden can't just team up with Trump in the United States.

You have serious, serious issues.

gu-gohan posted...

Biden supports the only thing that could possibly lead to a peaceful future: a two state solution.

He "supports" it so much that his government continues to arm and fund an Israeli regime that violently opposed a two-state solution and has murdered tens of thousands of Palestinian children in the past six months.

Zonbei posted...

He has actively been trying to get our ally, who we cannot disavow for many serious (albeit shitty) world politics reasons, to stop doing so much genocide, within the confines of what he can personally do.

No he hasn't. All he's done is ask them nicely to stop. And yes, his govenrment absolutely fucking can disavow Israel; they just don't want to.

creativerealms posted...

Just remember that there is no option that leads to ending that genocide. Not in this election cycle.

There absolutely is: the US suspending all funding to Israel and imposing sanctions until they stop the genocide.

And no, none of this is a good reason to vote third party or not vote at all (let alone vote for fucking Trump) when the alternative to Biden is actual fascism (which won't help the Palestinian people one bit). But the reality is that some people, maybe a lot of people, are going to see it as a reason to vote third party or not vote at all, which makes it is both morally abominable and politically stupid of Biden to continue supporting Israel.

Zonbei posted...

You have serious, serious issues.

I'm not the one saying ignore genocide.

Edit: You're also the one who said look at history. In a way what Biden is doing is teaming up with the right but just in Israel.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

There absolutely is: the US suspending all funding to Israel and imposing sanctions until they stop the genocide.

what makes you think this will do shit when they believe they are in the right?

maxpkmf posted...

Do yourself a favor and don't have a genuine political conversation on here. Vote Biden and fall in line or you get trolled and ridiculed.

Do yourself a favor and stop pretending anyone should take you seriously.

Rika_Furude posted...

what makes you think this will do shit when they believe they are in the right?

The threat of it has worked on previous Israeli governments.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

He "supports" it so much that his government continues to arm and fund an Israeli regime that violently opposed a two-state solution and has murdered tens of thousands of Palestinian children in the past six months.

No he hasn't. All he's done is ask them nicely to stop. And yes, his govenrment absolutely fucking can disavow Israel; they just don't want to.

There absolutely is: the US suspending all funding to Israel and imposing sanctions until they stop the genocide.

And no, none of this is a good reason to vote third party or not vote at all (let alone vote for fucking Trump) when the alternative to Biden is actual fascism (which won't help the Palestinian people one bit). But the reality is that some people, maybe a lot of people, are going to see it as a reason to vote third party or not vote at all, which makes it is both morally abominable and politically stupid of Biden to continue supporting Israel.

his government

youre doing that thing where people think the president has unilateral power to do literally whatever they want. Biden can only do so much, which is really very little because republicans essentially have a majority. His government includes the Republican senators. You understand that right?