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justaguy3492 03/07/24 11:55:56 AM #1: |
https://twitter.com/katieporteroc/status/1765621658382168271?t=0jpCcGG8yGdmY9gFApGfGA&s=19
Basically she said the primary was "rigged" referring to corporate money in political campaigns, but her word choice invoked thoughts of Trump. --- Gt: justaguy3492 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 03/07/24 11:57:52 AM #2: |
People on the left have to actually use language with care. We are held to account.
On the right you can just say whatever bombastic lie that will get the base riled up and angry and never face consequences. In fact, you are rewarded for being more absurd and irrational and punished for using reason and facts. --- Current signature not available. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendary_zell 03/07/24 12:00:25 PM #3: |
She's right. People are just doing the thing where they attack anyone who acknowledges flaws in our system and doesn't just go through the motions. You don't even have to be a leftist.
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ai123 03/07/24 12:01:25 PM #4: |
The fact that Katie Porter is not treated as a national treasure is deeply shameful.
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Dancedreamer 03/07/24 12:01:28 PM #5: |
Meanwhile silence when conservatives accuse Dan Crenshaw of rigging his election.
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Block_that_Kick 03/07/24 12:03:20 PM #7: |
https://twitter.com/AriCohn/status/1765759170572140819
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Doe 03/07/24 12:04:32 PM #8: |
What major issues do Porter and Schiff disagree on?
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legendary_zell 03/07/24 12:04:39 PM #9: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]
We can't just abandon language to the far right. That gives them far too much power and stops us from discussing important and real things. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shadow_Don 03/07/24 12:05:02 PM #10: |
You can very easily and straightforwardly call out the bullshit regarding election finance without saying the election is "rigged" which clearly at this point people are going to compare to Trump rhetoric.
I still like her but that was fucking dumb. --- "The soul in the darkness sins, but the real sinner is he who caused the darkness." - Victor Hugo ... Copied to Clipboard!
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jefffan 03/07/24 12:06:56 PM #12: |
Should've thought twice before that released.
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TimeForAction 03/07/24 12:07:09 PM #13: |
Welp there went that star ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marthsheretoo 03/07/24 12:07:45 PM #14: |
Block_that_Kick posted...
https://twitter.com/AriCohn/status/1765759170572140819 Ari seems to have suffered from poor reading comprehension in the process of hunting for an "own". --- "Even MarthKoopa has jumped on the MarthKoopa hate wagon." -DevsBro ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 03/07/24 12:08:33 PM #15: |
both sides
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Tyranthraxus 03/07/24 12:08:59 PM #16: |
Rigging doesn't mean unfairly manipulating. It means fixing. The outcome is predetermined.
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MarcoRubio 03/07/24 12:09:54 PM #17: |
Not like this
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Smashingpmkns 03/07/24 12:11:09 PM #18: |
She's right though
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LightningThief 03/07/24 12:14:28 PM #19: |
I like Katie Porter, and my post is simply speaking in general. But we have got to work on out messaging..... Progressives and Democrats have great policy agendas, but god awful messaging. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybabe89 03/07/24 12:26:47 PM #20: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
Rigging doesn't mean unfairly manipulating. It means fixing. The outcome is predetermined.But the outcome is not predetermined, so it really isn't rigged in either sense of the word. A system sucking and a system being rigged are not the same thing. America's elections have never been rigged. You can theoretically beat an incumbent. A third party can theoretically win the Presidency --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png she/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 03/07/24 12:27:01 PM #21: |
Billionaires fear her
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ItsNotA2Mer 03/07/24 12:27:53 PM #22: |
ai123 posted...
The fact that Katie Porter is not treated as a national treasure is deeply shameful. --- It is impossible to live in the past, difficult to live in the present, and a waste to live in the future. (He/Him). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rideshort 03/07/24 12:28:03 PM #23: |
This is why money shouldn't be involved in politics.
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Euripides 03/07/24 12:28:38 PM #24: |
If campaign adds needed to be truthful, there wouldn't be any campaign ads
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Starks 03/07/24 12:32:05 PM #25: |
This is the same kind of whining we saw when Bernie Sanders needed everyone to stay in the race for Super Tuesday for him to win.
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VampireCoyote 03/07/24 12:32:58 PM #26: |
rideshort posted...
This is why money shouldn't be involved in politics. the oligarchs are gonna come after you --- Go eat a pancake ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mustachedmystic 03/07/24 12:34:17 PM #27: |
Then she should campaign for campaign finance reform.
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MarcyWarcy 03/07/24 12:34:40 PM #28: |
Smashingpmkns posted...
She's right though --- Looks like this gamer's paradise has turned into a gamer's hell............................................... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 03/07/24 12:37:02 PM #29: |
I thought that she and Schiff could still run for their House seats if they lost, and that was the only reason her running when he already is wasn't fucking stupid (his seat is safe I think, hers was super tight and basically only being held by Dems b/c it was her). So now she's out of politics and Dems are losing a House seat, probably. This fucking sucks. As for her statement, it doesn't bother me, she was talking about campaign finance, not actual voting. But Trump has tainted the word "rigged" pretty badly ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunburnCostanza 03/07/24 12:44:46 PM #32: |
thanks Katie, can't wait to hear this for the next 4 years every time we point out how Trump actually tried to overturn the election
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Doom_Art 03/07/24 12:45:08 PM #33: |
She handled this like an absolute idiot
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SaikyoStyle 03/07/24 12:47:54 PM #34: |
LightningThief posted...
I like Katie Porter, and my post is simply speaking in general. But we have got to work on out messaging.....But only they have to. The alt-right get to say whatever the fuck they want and nobody will even question it. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TimeForAction 03/07/24 12:48:10 PM #35: |
Excited for her next big brained take ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 03/07/24 12:53:39 PM #36: |
Progressives have no place in this country most normal folk can't stand them
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FunWithAFryPan 03/07/24 12:54:31 PM #37: |
At some point, liberals are going to have to learn how to get on board with a animating idea, an ideology if you will, and stop flagellating themselves over slights like using the word rigged in a perfectly digestible context. Liberals make enemies everywhere they go, they are beset on all sides by conservatives and they cast off progressives all so they can get fake mad over stuff like this. If the fate of the country and Democracy Itself is at stake in this election, which is what liberals ostensibly believe, then maybe you should be organizing politically around some goal to address that rather than engaging in this farce.
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Heavy_D_Forever 03/07/24 12:56:32 PM #38: |
This bitch sounds upset that she doesn't understand how to play the game.
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LightningThief 03/07/24 1:02:59 PM #39: |
SaikyoStyle posted... But only they have to. The alt-right get to say whatever the fuck they want and nobody will even question it.No where in my post did I say it's okay for the alt right to say whatever they want. I'm not here to help them. I'm here to help us and our messaging. You can improve our messaging while shutting down right wing talking points, those aren't mutually exclusive. Our messaging needs work. Messaging like "defund the police" and the messaging surrounding antiwork, or any other message trying to be deep is/was a bad message. The last 4 years we definitely had several doozy slogans or messaging that were latched onto that honestly should have been dropped quickly. The messaging needs to clique with swing voters, not with people who already agree with us of whatever deeper meaning the beloved slogan is saying. Thank God things like "defund or abolish the police" was finally dropped. It's extremely evident our messaging sucks given so many aren't even aware of the accomplishments that we have gotten in the past 3 years alone. Those accomplishments aren't even messaged well. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FunWithAFryPan 03/07/24 1:08:42 PM #40: |
Why am I not surprised that the same people bemoaning defund the police are getting their panties in a wad over this. Grow a fucking backbone or lick the fascists boots.
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Starks 03/07/24 1:10:39 PM #41: |
You play by the rules until the rules change.
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MrMojoRising 03/07/24 1:12:38 PM #42: |
Lmfao she really thought she had this, huh
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LightningThief 03/07/24 1:12:57 PM #43: |
FunWithAFryPan posted... Why am I not surprised that the same people bemoaning defund the police are getting their panties in a wad over this. Grow a fucking backbone or lick the fascists boots.More like, some are just saying we agree with Porters message itself, just improve the messaging. Also yes, "defund the police" was a terrible message. The point of slogans and messaging shouldn't be to resonate with people who already agree with you and understand whatever deeper meaning your message has. The point should be to reach those who don't agree with you already. Even worse, the message wasn't even popular with the Democrats (which btw most agreed with the deeper message, but didnt quite like the slogan), but you had some stubbornly not letting go of the slogan. If your message has to constantly be translated, it's a bad message, even if those who already understand what you really mean, agree with the message. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunburnCostanza 03/07/24 1:14:15 PM #44: |
FunWithAFryPan posted...
Why am I not surprised that the same people bemoaning defund the police are getting their panties in a wad over this. Grow a fucking backbone or lick the fascists boots. Defund the police was stupid as fuck. Can you guys grow up? Or is the Tik Tok brain generation perpetually in a state of spitting out the stupidest catch phrases possible for attention? --- http://i.imgur.com/xUxeltw.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 03/07/24 1:17:08 PM #45: |
'We shouldn't allow billionaires to dictate our elections' is a pretty straightforward message.
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SaikyoStyle 03/07/24 1:19:53 PM #46: |
LightningThief posted...
No where in my post did I say it's okay for the alt right to say whatever they want. I'm not here to help them. I'm here to help us and our messaging. You can improve our messaging while shutting down right wing talking points, those aren't mutually exclusive.I know that and I know youre not. Thats just the reality of it. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Brunt/Gaila 2024. Make Ferenginar Great Again! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FunWithAFryPan 03/07/24 1:20:50 PM #47: |
What is so bad nuclear about defund the police that it needs to be translated? Furthermore, why sabotage your own activism when you could be spending that time and energy supplementing a goddamn protest slogan, something designed to be chanted by crowds of people in unison, with policy proposals? Perhaps defund the police or the election is rigged are good at catching the attention of the average voter, and then in the economy of that attention you bring messaging like we should be diverting misused funds for the police into more proven effective social programs and public services. Thats better messaging than oh gee Im so sorry we should have never said that, please put your boot on my neck.
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SunburnCostanza 03/07/24 1:23:42 PM #48: |
Defund doesn't mean divert, your slogan literally fails on word one. Horrendous.
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LightningThief 03/07/24 1:23:48 PM #49: |
ClayGuida posted... 'We shouldn't allow billionaires to dictate our elections' is a pretty straightforward message.Given Trump is a bright elephant in the room who has been crying the election was "rigged" against him for the past 5 years, it's not exactly a great idea to use that word. Even if we understand what she really means. Porters meaning in her message is completely right. The execution of the message is the only thing I'm addressing as this message needs to clique with the average swing voters and independents who have the memory of a goldfish. Not people who already like Porter, like us, who knows she isn't being a Donald Trump when she used the word "rigged." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FunWithAFryPan 03/07/24 1:24:44 PM #50: |
SunburnCostanza posted...
Defund the police was stupid as fuck. Can you guys grow up? Or is the Tik Tok brain generation perpetually in a state of spitting out the stupidest catch phrases possible for attention?Im not the Tik Tok generation, so miss me with that. I noticed you didnt actually say why its stupid as fuck. Do you have a reason or do you just love rolling over and showing your belly at the first sign of resistance? --- He who strikes with meaning is killed by meaning. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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