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CobraGT
03/04/24 2:21:57 AM
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A local newspaper has an article advocating that people who care about Gaza should write in uncommitted for potus. That is the first page of the article. The second page (which no one but me read) goes on to say that it will be then be Biden's fault that Trump won.

https://southsideweekly.com/no-business-as-usual/

Personally, I think which of the 2 become president is astronomically more important than whose fault it is.

Voting uncommitted is cool if you were in not planning to vote.

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pinky0926
03/04/24 2:24:56 AM
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These peoples faces when trump's wins and his gaza strategy makes biden look like a kind and altruistic Saint

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Dark_Arbron
03/04/24 2:28:03 AM
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pinky0926 posted...
These peoples faces when trump's wins and his gaza strategy makes biden look like a kind and altruistic Saint

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And they should not be allowed to live it down. Ever.

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DarthAragorn
03/04/24 2:28:58 AM
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Jesus fuck once again this is about primaries

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Dark_Arbron
03/04/24 2:30:16 AM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Jesus fuck once again this is about primaries

But that second page story talks about Trump winning being Bidens fault, so clearly the topics are linked. If Biden doesnt win the primary, someone with less chance of beating Trump will. It doesnt matter if this is the primary not the general - look at the big picture.

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CobraGT
03/04/24 8:35:55 PM
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I have my mail-in ballot. My alderman who is quoted in the article is not up for election this term but quite a number of crucial offices are.

Rep to US Congress
Rep to Illinois Legislature
Illinois Supreme Court and Appellate Court judges

And Biden has 3 people running against him.

I have some time to think it over.


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cjsdowg
03/04/24 8:37:25 PM
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pinky0926 posted...
These peoples faces when trump's wins and his gaza strategy makes biden look like a kind and altruistic Saint

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How is it going to be worst under Trump. Biden supports everything every lie the Bibi does.

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CountCorvinus
03/04/24 8:38:32 PM
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Do you not know what a fucking primary is?

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Torgo
03/04/24 8:38:46 PM
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In the Primary.

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McMarbles
03/04/24 8:41:17 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
How is it going to be worst under Trump. Biden supports everything every lie the Bibi does.
If only there were other issues in question.

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EPR-radar
03/04/24 8:43:16 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
How is it going to be worst under Trump. Biden supports everything every lie the Bibi does.
This cannot be a serious question. Trump would be all in on glassing Gaza as a final solution to the Palestinian problem.

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cjsdowg
03/04/24 8:43:44 PM
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McMarbles posted...
If only there were other issues in question.
One the border..where Biden's plan is just as bad a Trumps. And has not been used because Republicans are stopping it.


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cjsdowg
03/04/24 8:44:32 PM
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EPR-radar posted...
This cannot be a serious question. Trump would be all in on glassing Gaza as a final solution to the Palestinian problem.

Biden UN literally said they were looking for a Final Solution. That is literally the word that they used

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wanderingshade
03/04/24 8:49:02 PM
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You know if Biden doesn't strike a deal or make any kind of progress with Israel (and there will be foreign countries that try to make sure he never will) that those SAME PEOPLE will absolutely consider either voting Uncommitted in the General or not voting at all and then claim some sort of need of doing so for their conscience or that "Democrats should have done better if they wanted to win".

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hockeybabe89
03/04/24 8:51:58 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
How is it going to be worst under Trump. Biden supports everything every lie the Bibi does.
If only there were other issues that affected America besides a foreign country killing people on the other side of the world.

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1337toothbrush
03/04/24 8:57:35 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
If only there were other issues that affected America besides a foreign country killing people on the other side of the world.
Yet biden is so invested in that foreign country killing people on the other side of the world that he bypassed congress to sell them weapons to carry it out.

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TheLiarParadox
03/04/24 8:58:26 PM
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wanderingshade posted...
Democrats should have done better if they wanted to win


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Compsognathus
03/04/24 8:59:54 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
One the border..where Biden's plan is just as bad a Trumps. And has not been used because Republicans are stopping it.
Do you have any LGBTQ friends who you care about being treated as actual people? Do you know women who actually want to be something more than breeding stock? I mean you shouldn't have to actually know people to have empathy for them, but you seem to otherwise be missing the horrific impacts another Trump presidency would have.

Biden's handling of the Israel/Palestine conflict has been really, really bad. He absolutely deserves to be strongly criticized and if people want to do it by voting uncommitted in an ultimately meaningless primary, then power to them. But to say that a Trump presidency would be just as bad as a Biden one requires gigantic blinders and an indifference to many people groups.

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hockeybabe89
03/04/24 9:04:25 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Yet biden is so invested in that foreign country killing people on the other side of the world that he bypassed congress to sell them weapons to carry it out.
And no one has a will to live because he's doing that? We're gonna voluntarily choose to blow our fucking brains out and blame it on Biden sucking? Your choices in 2024 are vote for Biden or die. There is no third option.

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1337toothbrush
03/04/24 9:05:46 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
And no one has a will to live because he's doing that? We're gonna voluntarily choose to blow our fucking brains out and blame it on Biden sucking? Your choices in 2024 are vote for Biden or die. There is no third option.
Do you not see how this gives democrats a perverse incentive to push for more insane republicans so they can continue to play good-cop-bad-cop? The problem won't go away with trump and in fact it didn't even start with trump.

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Axiom
03/04/24 9:15:09 PM
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What do these people expect Biden to do anyway. Whoever is in there would be doing the exact same thing regardless of party

Isreal is too tied to the us for any other response. Theyre just acting like children
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Garioshi
03/04/24 9:16:49 PM
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CobraGT posted...
The second page (which no one but me read) goes on to say that it will be then be Biden's fault that Trump won.
He is refusing to stop doing the thing that is obliterating his chances at reelection, so yes

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ablegator
03/04/24 9:18:38 PM
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Its just the primary. An organized movement to proclaim no confidence in Biden only strengthens his chances in the general.

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MistyKnight
03/04/24 9:21:42 PM
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In the primaries you vote with your heart in the general you vote with your head

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hockeybabe89
03/04/24 9:27:20 PM
#26:


Garioshi posted...
He is refusing to stop doing the thing that is obliterating his chances at reelection, so yes
It shouldn't be obliterating his chances because he's still objectively better than Trump. People really need to stop voting with their feelings. We're on the precipice of total destruction because of such voting.

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Ricemills
03/04/24 9:31:16 PM
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Axiom posted...
What do these people expect Biden to do anyway. Whoever is in there would be doing the exact same thing regardless of party

So the vote doesn't matter.
If things are the same regardless who they voted, why would they give their vote?

Some people doesn't even understand this simple concept

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LightHawKnight
03/04/24 9:32:01 PM
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Ricemills posted...
So the vote doesn't matter.
If things are the same regardless who they voted, why would they give their vote?

Some people doesn't even understand this simple concept

For the one issue it doesnt matter, but there are a literal shit ton of other issues, such as Project 2025 and the fact that republicans have literally taken away rights.

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Axiom
03/04/24 9:32:44 PM
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Ricemills posted...
So the vote doesn't matter.
If things are the same regardless who they voted, why would they give their vote?

Some people doesn't even understand this simple concept
Lmao like I said children
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Ricemills
03/04/24 9:34:49 PM
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Axiom posted...
Lmao like I said children

Yes, you are
Instead of trying to understand other's plight, you just call them words. Such immature act.

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DrizztLink
03/04/24 9:34:56 PM
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"should i vote for the guy who could at least be pressured about Palestine or the guy who cannot wait to help burn it to the ground

i simply do not see the difference "

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DarthAragorn
03/04/24 9:36:44 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
"should i vote for the guy who could at least be pressured about Palestine or the guy who cannot wait to help burn it to the ground

i simply do not see the difference "
pressured how, because apparently not with your vote

what else do people have to use, his fucking approval rating?

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DrizztLink
03/04/24 9:39:55 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
apparently not with your vote
No fucking shit.

I don't usually try to negotiate by putting a gun to my temple either.

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DarthAragorn
03/04/24 9:40:44 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
No fucking shit, I don't usually try to negotiate by putting a gun to my temple either.
so then what?

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refmon
03/04/24 9:43:27 PM
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Don't think. Just vote for genocide funding President Biden because he is a democrat.

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hockeybabe89
03/04/24 9:44:30 PM
#36:


DarthAragorn posted...
pressured how, because apparently not with your vote

what else do people have to use, his fucking approval rating?
There's more at stake than the pride of Democrat politicians. We lose by not voting against the GOP.

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DrizztLink
03/04/24 9:45:17 PM
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Policy campaigning, for one.

It's not simple but ask the 9/11 first responders if it works.

The tricky part is you need a government that isn't a fascist shithole to accomplish it, and there's quite literally one path forward to avoid that.

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Dark_Arbron
03/04/24 9:45:55 PM
#38:


refmon posted...
Don't think. Just vote for genocide funding President Biden because he is a democrat.

Just say what you really want to say.

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hockeybabe89
03/04/24 9:49:45 PM
#39:


refmon posted...
Don't think. Just vote for genocide funding President Biden because he is a democrat.
Gaza is fucked either way our election goes. Guess people have to decide whether or not everyone deserves to die because of that.

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Sir_Will
03/04/24 9:51:12 PM
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CobraGT posted...
Voting uncommitted is cool if you were in not planning to vote.
That is fine in the primaries and the only way to try and send any kind of message.

Of course when it comes to the general, people have to plug their nose and do the right thing. And yes, failing to do so makes the outcome your fault too.

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1337toothbrush
03/04/24 9:53:00 PM
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So there is supposedly a time where it is permissible to push democrats to progress, but the time is never now.

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ultimate_reaver
03/04/24 9:55:08 PM
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if yall cant get over little things in the primaries that will ultimately affect nothing at all like this I genuinely worry about your health during the general. Maybe get off the internet so you dont have a stroke

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hockeybabe89
03/04/24 9:55:22 PM
#43:


1337toothbrush posted...
So there is supposedly a time where it is permissible to push democrats to progress, but the time is never now.
How many LGBTQ people are you comfortable sacrificing to teach the Dems a lesson when they run for office in 30 years once the Christofascist regime dies out? Give me a number.

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1337toothbrush
03/04/24 9:57:39 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
How many LGBTQ people are you comfortable sacrificing to teach the Dems a lesson when they run for office in 30 years once the Christofascist regime dies out? Give me a number.
How many Palestinians are you willing to sacrifice? Give me a number, there's over 30,000 dead so far. Tell me when it's time to stop.

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ScazarMeltex
03/04/24 9:57:59 PM
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Dark_Arbron posted...
And they should not be allowed to live it down. Ever.
We'll have plenty of time to give them shit about it since we'll all likely end up in the same camps anyway.

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Ricemills
03/04/24 9:58:37 PM
#46:


ultimate_reaver posted...
if yall cant get over little things in the primaries that will ultimately affect nothing at all like this I genuinely worry about your health during the general. Maybe get off the internet so you dont have a stroke

ITP: genocide of Palestinian is a little thing

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DarthAragorn
03/04/24 9:59:24 PM
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Ricemills posted...
ITP: genocide of Palestinian is a little thing
pretty sure he meant people voting uncommitted in a primary is a little thing that plenty of people are pissing their pants like babies about

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Ricemills
03/04/24 10:01:16 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
pretty sure he meant people voting uncommitted in a primary is a little thing that plenty of people are pissing their pants like babies about

Oh, my bad then.

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hockeybabe89
03/04/24 10:06:36 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
How many Palestinians are you willing to sacrifice? Give me a number, there's over 30,000 dead so far. Tell me when it's time to stop.
Good thing Netanyahu isn't running for President or you may have a point. Why should innocent Americans die because Israel is committing a genocide? You're a fool if you think Israel would stop anyway. I get not wanting America to be an ally to a country that does it, but that won't actually end the genocide.

I get wanting to save the few, but you don't do it by sacrificing the many. Biden isn't the one who suffers if he loses.

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