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hockeybabe89
02/25/24 10:06:17 AM
#150:


Revelation34 posted...
What's wrong with calling cats female?
What? I was literally saying calling cats "female cats" is different than calling a woman "a female". And if you just told someone your pet was a female, they'd ask "a female what?". Unless you're writing a biology textbook about the differences between sexes of a species, "males and females" as a noun is just clunky and verbose. We literally have words for female humans.

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hockeybabe89
02/25/24 10:07:49 AM
#153:


alfred_ashford posted...
I personally think its weird that ppl get offended at it. Things I have heard. "It makes us sound like a different species" no one is going to hear the word female and think of centipedes or seahorses. "Its usually accompanied by other misogynistic feelings" okay so you are upset at misogyny, not a word. Its not the n word we're talking about.
I just want to know why when you guys are wrong, why you can't all just shut the fuck up and never speak on the topic ever again. The Internet has falsely made people think their opinions matter and I'm tired of it.

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TheOtherMike
02/25/24 10:08:21 AM
#154:


ArsGoetia posted...
your understanding is lacking, as i and others have pointed out

And you're wrong.

C_Pain posted...
Humans are animals

And in the context of humans as animals (i.e. a clinical or academic setting) it can be appropriate. In common communication "animals" refers to nonhuman species.

NatsuSama posted...
Says you. As there's definitely people who use it negatively. You either don't recognize it, don't care to recognize it, or don't even hear it.

So show them to me.

Revelation34 posted...
The burden of proof is always on the original claim.

Not when the claim is negative. When one person claims something exists or occurs and another claims it doesn't, the burden of proof falls on whoever is making the positive claim, regardless of who spoke first. Because it's impossible to prove a negative.

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ArsGoetia
02/25/24 10:09:26 AM
#155:


TheOtherMike posted...
And you're wrong.


pouting is cute ngl

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C_Pain
02/25/24 10:09:39 AM
#156:


TheOtherMike posted...
And you're wrong.

And in the context of humans as animals (i.e. a clinical or academic setting) it can be appropriate. In common communication "animals" refers to nonhuman species.

So show them to me.

Not when the claim is negative. When one person claims something exists or occurs and another claims it doesn't, the burden of proof falls on whoever is making the positive claim, regardless of who spoke first. Because it's impossible to prove a negative.
You're nitpicking and biased. I win. Bye bye.

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TheOtherMike
02/25/24 10:12:54 AM
#157:


ArsGoetia posted...
pouting is cute ngl

Pure projection. You aren't even talking about the topic anymore, just flinging insults.

C_Pain posted...
You're nitpicking and biased. I win. Bye bye.

I'm biased by my understanding of how words work.

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ArsGoetia
02/25/24 10:14:15 AM
#158:


TheOtherMike posted...
Pure projection. You aren't even talking about the topic anymore, just flinging insults.

I'm biased by my understanding of how words work.

are you also one of those dudes that takes issue with rap and slang? lol
b/c thats the stance youre taking tbh
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TheOtherMike
02/25/24 10:14:57 AM
#159:


ArsGoetia posted...
are you also one of those dudes that takes issue with rap and slang? lol
b/c thats the stance youre taking tbh

TheOtherMike posted...
You aren't even talking about the topic anymore, just flinging insults.


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ai123
02/25/24 10:16:31 AM
#160:


alfred_ashford posted...
I personally think its weird that ppl get offended at it. Things I have heard. "It makes us sound like a different species" no one is going to hear the word female and think of centipedes or seahorses. "Its usually accompanied by other misogynistic feelings" okay so you are upset at misogyny, not a word. Its not the n word we're talking about.
People are upset because the word is used to convey a misogynist message.

Words themselves are just marks on a page. It's what they signify in a particular context that matters.

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ArsGoetia
02/25/24 10:17:11 AM
#161:


"i literally have no argument so i'm going to emotively assert that being told i'm wrong hurts my feelings T-T"
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NatsuSama
02/25/24 10:18:41 AM
#162:


TheOtherMike posted...
So show them to me.
Show me this statistic as you claimed it's a wide spread problem of people using it on an wide epidemic scale.

Try not to confuse anecdotal internet posts, and internet bubbles of those agreeing with you as widespread.

As your argument is no better than me pointing out I see "woman" and "women" used far more in a negative context than the word "female."


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TheOtherMike
02/25/24 10:20:37 AM
#163:


ArsGoetia posted...
"i literally have no argument so i'm going to emotively assert that being told i'm wrong hurts my feelings T-T"

Again, this is pure projection. I have an argument. I presented it. You ignored it and proceeded to substitute insults for anything of substance. Get out of your feelings and get back on topic, if you're even able to.

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Nok_Su_Kow
02/25/24 10:21:05 AM
#164:


No, that's some incel Klingon shit.
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TheOtherMike
02/25/24 10:21:31 AM
#165:


NatsuSama posted...
Show me this statistic as you claimed it's a wide spread problem of people using it on an wide epidemic scale.

No I didn't.

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Cynrascal
02/25/24 10:23:24 AM
#166:


SauI_Goodman posted...
I use both. Don't really have a particular set of rules.


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ArsGoetia
02/25/24 10:25:55 AM
#167:


TheOtherMike posted...
Again, this is pure projection. I have an argument. I presented it. You ignored it and proceeded to substitute insults for anything of substance. Get out of your feelings and get back on topic, if you're even able to.

what are you even talking about lol
i told you that you were adhering to language "rules" that are neither realistic nor practically used outside of high school
you followed up with high school level syntax that was immediately shown to be incorrect (even by the standards you adhere to) by another poster
and have proceeded to do nothing but "nuh uh ur wrong :(" since lol
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NatsuSama
02/25/24 10:27:33 AM
#168:


TheOtherMike posted...
No I didn't.
You claimed the word "female" is used statistically on this massive grand scale difference to "male."

Provide these statistics. I'm sure all you have is anecdotal social media posts and bubbles.

The point I made earlier is depending on the context, "male", "female", "men", "women" all are used in a negative context.

In specific to woman. You claim to see the word "female" used more. I'd argue I rarely if ever see anyone using that over using the word "women" to still be negative.

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Villain_S_Fiend
02/25/24 10:28:19 AM
#169:


The only time I use it in a non-scientific context (non-human) is to parody misogynist douchebags in appropriate company.

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Chadawah
02/25/24 10:29:34 AM
#170:


I see this on Tik Tok and Instagram comments all the time. Too many incels watched DS9 and thought the Ferengi had a good take on male and female relationships.


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Link_of_time
02/25/24 10:29:51 AM
#171:


Females get big mad when you address them as such.

Solution: call them FemaleX.

mustachedmystic posted...
As others have said, it is clinical, and awkward, but its not like it is a slur or outdated slang. Ladies, save your outrage for the guys that call you dame, as if anyone that doesnt remember rationing coffee during the war would use such an outdated word.

Fr this aint that serious. This is the kinda piddely stuff one person on the internet has crusade about. Legitimate issues are taken less seriously, cuz of stuff like this.

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Chadawah
02/25/24 10:32:04 AM
#172:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f4736f4e.jpg

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ClayGuida
02/25/24 10:33:03 AM
#173:


I call them broads or walking tits.

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ROBANN_88
02/25/24 10:35:35 AM
#174:


"hey dudes, guys, bros, what do you do when a female speaks?"

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mustachedmystic
02/25/24 10:36:25 AM
#175:


ClayGuida posted...
I call them broads or walking tits.
LOL, broads, forgot about that one.

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ModernPost
02/25/24 10:40:52 AM
#176:


I think it's very suspicious when people claim to not hear how off putting and weird it sounds to refer to women as "females." It sounds like you're about to dissect them in a laboratory or watching them in a zoo.

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TheOtherMike
02/25/24 10:40:58 AM
#177:


ArsGoetia posted...
you followed up with high school level syntax that was immediately shown to be incorrect

False.

ArsGoetia posted...
and have proceeded to do nothing but "nuh uh ur wrong :(" since lol

The last relevant point made was when I said language is necessarily a mix of both descriptive and prescriptive, which you ignored in favor of more insults.

NatsuSama posted...
You claimed the word "female" is used statistically on this massive grand scale difference to "male."

Because the latter isn't used in the same way. At all. And when you said it was I asked you to show me, but you haven't provided so much as a single example. Meanwhile, multiple users itt alone outright admit to doing the former. Can you show me some examples of "I'm going to the bar to find me a male," "look at these fine males on Tinder," or anything similar?

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Chadawah
02/25/24 10:42:13 AM
#178:


mustachedmystic posted...
LOL, broads, forgot about that one.
Get a load of them broads

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hockeybabe89
02/25/24 10:43:36 AM
#179:


ModernPost posted...
I think it's very suspicious when people claim to not hear how off putting and weird it sounds to refer to women as "females." It sounds like you're about to dissect them in a laboratory or watching them in a zoo.
But someone on the Internet said they hear more people use "woman" insultingly, so actually calling them "females" isn't weird!

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CSCA33
02/25/24 10:47:16 AM
#181:


TheOtherMike posted...
Because the latter isn't used in the same way. At all. And when you said it was I asked you to show me, but you haven't provided so much as a single example. Meanwhile, multiple users itt alone outright admit to doing the former. Can you show me some examples of "I'm going to the bar to find me a male," "look at these fine males on Tinder," or anything similar?
the oversexualization of women and girls enters the room

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Villain_S_Fiend
02/25/24 10:47:35 AM
#182:


Women: "I wish guys would stop calling us 'females' outside of academia/science - it feels insulting and like they're talking down to us."

Guys who call women females outside of academia/science: *immediately talk down to them and mansplain why they're less intelligent for feeling insulted*

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neccis
02/25/24 10:49:03 AM
#183:


TheOtherMike posted...
I am a man. (Noun)

I am male. (Adjective)
I am a male man. It's all in the delivery

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NatsuSama
02/25/24 10:49:41 AM
#184:


TheOtherMike posted...
Because the latter isn't used in the same way.
Which is not a true statement.

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mustachedmystic
02/25/24 10:50:51 AM
#185:


Incels are the weakest form of ists. There is literally zero percent chance they will ever have any real power or influence, so it is best to ignore them. Think about it, they cant even get laid, why does anyone even pay attention to them?

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TheOtherMike
02/25/24 10:58:07 AM
#187:


NatsuSama posted...
Which is not a true statement.

Then it should be easy to provide some examples similar to the ones I requested.

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NatsuSama
02/25/24 11:00:02 AM
#188:


TheOtherMike posted...
Then it should be easy to provide some examples similar to the ones I requested.

NatsuSama posted...
You claimed the word "female" is used statistically on this massive grand scale difference to "male."

Provide these statistics. I'm sure all you have is anecdotal social media posts and bubbles.


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mustachedmystic
02/25/24 11:00:33 AM
#189:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Yeah, mass shootings are a problem, once again, FUCK YOU GOP!!!! But it is not a one that threatens to destroy our Great Republic, like Trump and the Republicans. I am not gonna crunch the numbers on a Sunday morning, but Id think you are more likely to die in a plane crash than by some incel with an AR-15.

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SecretBase
02/25/24 11:02:57 AM
#190:


Gladius_ posted...


They're the largest representation of mass shooters (in the u.s.) and have been labeled as a terrorist group for a reason.

Shooters who actually call themselves incels are not particularly common.

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NatsuSama
02/25/24 11:04:58 AM
#192:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I never said there isn't anecdotal examples or bubbles put there who specifically use the word female.

I'm addressing Mike's claim that it's a widespread use of the word to be negative that's far more than "male." A claim he can't prove beyond anecdotal social media posts, and internet bubbles.

Dudes even claiming "male" isn't used at all as an insult... which jist is not true. Just using an easy low hanging fruit example, beta male.

Depending on the context, "men", "male", "women", and "female" can all be used in a negative context. And depending on what bubble/circles you frequent or even mostly avoid, you will hear one word more often than the other. For example, between "female" and "women" I'd argue I hear "women" way more often as an insult than "female."

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Revelation34
02/25/24 11:06:13 AM
#193:


hockeybabe89 posted...

I just want to know why when you guys are wrong, why you can't all just shut the fuck up and never speak on the topic ever again. The Internet has falsely made people think their opinions matter and I'm tired of it.


Prove it.

TheOtherMike posted...


And you're wrong.

And in the context of humans as animals (i.e. a clinical or academic setting) it can be appropriate. In common communication "animals" refers to nonhuman species.

So show them to me.

Not when the claim is negative. When one person claims something exists or occurs and another claims it doesn't, the burden of proof falls on whoever is making the positive claim, regardless of who spoke first. Because it's impossible to prove a negative.


Nope. That's just you copping out.

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SecretBase
02/25/24 11:11:46 AM
#195:


Gladius_ posted...
It doesn't matter what they call themselves. It's something like over 80% visit the same kind of forums and are part of said groups.

A whoe bunch of different types of people share forums.

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TheOtherMike
02/25/24 11:12:31 AM
#196:


NatsuSama posted...
I'm addressing Mike's claim that it's a widespread use of the word to be negative that's far more than "male."

I never said it was "a widespread use of the word." I said it was far more common to the point of being one sided, which is not saying it's widespread or "epidemic scale." The point is that one basically never happens, while the other does. I made no claim about how frequently "females" is used as a noun.

Again:

TheOtherMike posted...
Because the latter isn't used in the same way. At all. And when you said it was I asked you to show me, but you haven't provided so much as a single example. Meanwhile, multiple users itt alone outright admit to doing the former. Can you show me some examples of "I'm going to the bar to find me a male," "look at these fine males on Tinder," or anything similar?



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NatsuSama
02/25/24 11:13:43 AM
#197:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I don't use Gamefaqs as a standard that a claim such as yours isn't anymore anecdotal than mine.

So receiving pushback is par for the course and irrelevant. You're either going to agree or not agree. But I certainly don't use how many agree with me in a forum as an indicator. Nor do I use how many in the forum agree on a position as an indicator a position is correct.

You can go to any corner of the internet to find a majority position.

I don't retract my posts.

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TheOtherMike
02/25/24 11:15:21 AM
#199:


Revelation34 posted...
Nope. That's just you copping out.

No, it's a fact.

God doesn't exist.
Ghosts aren't real.
There isn't an invisible space dragon orbiting the earth.

None of these "claims" require proof, because they aren't positive claims.

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