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andylt 02/24/24 6:42:06 PM #1:	Best level? - Results (41 votes) Mafia Town 14.63% (6 votes) 6 Battle of the Birds 24.39% (10 votes) 10 Subcon Forest 17.07% (7 votes) 7 Alpine Skyline 17.07% (7 votes) 7 Time's End 4.88% (2 votes) 2 Arctic Cruise 4.88% (2 votes) 2 Nyakuza Metro 17.07% (7 votes) 7 Beat this today, making an excuse to discuss the game. I saw an old topic and people were split back then, some seeing little of value in Hat and others calling it better than Mario Odyssey! I wouldn't go as far as that but I had a fun time with the game. I wish it was a longer experience, and there's not much in the way of challenge, but there's a lot of charm here. IMO Chapters 2 and 3 have the best writing, premise, music, and overall fun factor (though the DJ Grooves levels in 2 let that chapter down). Not sure if I'll get the DLC, I've heard mixed things. Subcon > Birds > Alpine > Mafia bonus bird rankings: Crows > Owls > Penguins <cite>andylt posted [p:979024285] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote> Best level? - Results (41 votes) Mafia Town 14.63% (6 votes) 6 Battle of the Birds 24.39% (10 votes) 10 Subcon Forest 17.07% (7 votes) 7 Alpine Skyline 17.07% (7 votes) 7 Time's End 4.88% (2 votes) 2 Arctic Cruise 4.88% (2 votes) 2 Nyakuza Metro 17.07% (7 votes) 7 Show Voting Form Beat this today, making an excuse to discuss the game. I saw an old topic and people were split back then, some seeing little of value in Hat and others calling it better than Mario Odyssey! I wouldn't go as far as that but I had a fun time with the game. I wish it was a longer experience, and there's not much in the way of challenge, but there's a lot of charm here. IMO Chapters 2 and 3 have the best writing, premise, music, and overall fun factor (though the DJ Grooves levels in 2 let that chapter down).Not sure if I'll get the DLC, I've heard mixed things.Subcon > Birds > Alpine > Mafiabonus bird rankings: Crows > Owls > Penguins</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
th3l3fty 02/24/24 6:48:57 PM #2:	Subcon > Alpine > Mafia > Birds > Nyakuza >> Arctic the DJ Grooves levels are the worst ones in the main game, but the cruise has one that's just unforgivably bad --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -transience I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris <cite>th3l3fty posted [p:979024378] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Subcon > Alpine > Mafia > Birds > Nyakuza >> Arcticthe DJ Grooves levels are the worst ones in the main game, but the cruise has one that's just unforgivably bad </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KateMarsh 02/24/24 6:49:27 PM #3:	Alright, let me dig up my write-up after beating it from... three years ago, man time flies. Sooo, based on how this board had spoken of this game in the past, I was expecting a masterpiece. I... didn't get that. I sure do have a lot of thoughts, but let's start with the good. I love how this was clearly a throwback to N64/PSX/Game Cube/PS2 era 3D platformers. The style, level design, characters, even animation were all reminiscent of those times, while looking just crisp enough to be on new platforms. The level design was great. Honestly, it reminded me a lot of Super Mario Sunshine (and I don't just mean the Time Warp levels, but the influence is particularly blatant in those), and, despite my gripes with the game that I will get to, I will probably recommend this to a friend who really, really loves that game. The music was fantastic. As a music lover, this is always a huge plus for me in any game I play, but particularly in platformers it seems to affect me the most. The humor was spot-on. It wasn't laugh-your-ass-off hilarious or anything, but I really appreciate when a game (or really any piece of media, but especially a game) can so pointedly and deliberately not take itself seriously. The characters, dialogue, and scenarios were so ridiculous that the game didn't just serve as a throwback to early 3D platformers; it was practically a parody of them. Mustache Girl, The Snatcher, DJ Grooves and The Conductor were all great, memorable characters. And now for the bad. The first time I tried to play this game, over a year ago, I started to feel sick very early on (after just five hourglasses). I didn't really think the game was the cause, but because of an almost Pavlov-like reaction, I didn't go back to it. I restarted for this run through and once again, I started to feel sick very quickly. This time I figured it was the game, so my first thought was to turn down the brightness, which helped. So yeah, I had to turn down the game's default brightness to play it without getting sick. Great start. Technically, the game was a mess. The camera sucked. I have no idea how you can mess up a free-roaming camera on a 3D platformer in 2017, but they friggin' did it. The physics, specifically Hat Girl's interactions with objects, terrain, and enemies, were weird. It made it difficult for me to pull off the type of precise acrobatic maneuvers that I'm used to pulling off in, say, a 3D Mario game. These two things combined led to a lot of deaths that I really didn't feel were my fault. Lots of graphical glitches too. This, combined with the bad camera and wonky physics, made for an experience that felt very unpolished. Was that intentional, being a throwback to older games? If so, I didn't like it. A lot of the hourglasses were way too long for just a single hourglass. Murder on the Owl Express comes to mind (even though I loved it), but the biggest offender was the Alpine Skyline, which was just way too big and way too long for its own good. The Disease Has Spread was particularly annoying, basically having to go through the whole giant level all over again for one more hourglass. Oh, and in that level, it didn't autosave after every hourglass like it had done the entire game up until that point. You had to exit the level in order to save. This wasn't made clear to me and I shut the game off after getting two of them, and came back to find the level untouched. This frustrated me so badly that I put the game down for a week. Real nice. Overall, while I'm glad I played it, I was a bit disappointed and didn't get the experienced I expected and hoped for going in. I can absolutely see what they were going for. There's something there, and even as it is there was plenty of good, but there were just too many flaws and the end result was a game that just didn't quite click as well as it could have. If they had just ironed out the creases, I think this really could have been an all-time stellar 3D platformer. Instead, it's just okay. --- a darkx alt <cite>KateMarsh posted [p:979024383] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Alright, let me dig up my write-up after beating it from... three years ago, man time flies.Sooo, based on how this board had spoken of this game in the past, I was expecting a masterpiece. I... didn't get that. I sure do have a lot of thoughts, but let's start with the good. I love how this was clearly a throwback to N64/PSX/Game Cube/PS2 era 3D platformers. The style, level design, characters, even animation were all reminiscent of those times, while looking just crisp enough to be on new platforms. The level design was great. Honestly, it reminded me a lot of Super Mario Sunshine (and I don't just mean the Time Warp levels, but the influence is particularly blatant in those), and, despite my gripes with the game that I will get to, I will probably recommend this to a friend who really, really loves that game. The music was fantastic. As a music lover, this is always a huge plus for me in any game I play, but particularly in platformers it seems to affect me the most. The humor was spot-on. It wasn't laugh-your-ass-off hilarious or anything, but I really appreciate when a game (or really any piece of media, but especially a game) can so pointedly and deliberately not take itself seriously. The characters, dialogue, and scenarios were so ridiculous that the game didn't just serve as a throwback to early 3D platformers; it was practically a parody of them. Mustache Girl, The Snatcher, DJ Grooves and The Conductor were all great, memorable characters.And now for the bad. The first time I tried to play this game, over a year ago, I started to feel sick very early on (after just five hourglasses). I didn't really think the game was the cause, but because of an almost Pavlov-like reaction, I didn't go back to it. I restarted for this run through and once again, I started to feel sick very quickly. This time I figured it was the game, so my first thought was to turn down the brightness, which helped. So yeah, I had to turn down the game's default brightness to play it without getting sick. Great start. Technically, the game was a mess. The camera sucked. I have no idea how you can mess up a free-roaming camera on a 3D platformer in 2017, but they friggin' did it. The physics, specifically Hat Girl's interactions with objects, terrain, and enemies, were weird. It made it difficult for me to pull off the type of precise acrobatic maneuvers that I'm used to pulling off in, say, a 3D Mario game. These two things combined led to a lot of deaths that I really didn't feel were my fault. Lots of graphical glitches too. This, combined with the bad camera and wonky physics, made for an experience that felt very unpolished. Was that intentional, being a throwback to older games? If so, I didn't like it. A lot of the hourglasses were way too long for just a single hourglass. Murder on the Owl Express comes to mind (even though I loved it), but the biggest offender was the Alpine Skyline, which was just way too big and way too long for its own good. The Disease Has Spread was particularly annoying, basically having to go through the whole giant level all over again for one more hourglass. Oh, and in that level, it didn't autosave after every hourglass like it had done the entire game up until that point. You had to exit the level in order to save. This wasn't made clear to me and I shut the game off after getting two of them, and came back to find the level untouched. This frustrated me so badly that I put the game down for a week. Real nice.Overall, while I'm glad I played it, I was a bit disappointed and didn't get the experienced I expected and hoped for going in. I can absolutely see what they were going for. There's something there, and even as it is there was plenty of good, but there were just too many flaws and the end result was a game that just didn't quite click as well as it could have. If they had just ironed out the creases, I think this really could have been an all-time stellar 3D platformer. Instead, it's just okay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KCF0107 02/24/24 7:01:42 PM #4:	th3l3fty posted... but the cruise has one that's just unforgivably bad I have to assume this is the series of tasks with a time limit. That in particular was just a completely miserable experience --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy <cite>KCF0107 posted [p:979024536] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>th3l3fty posted...</cite><quote>but the cruise has one that's just unforgivably bad</quote>I have to assume this is the series of tasks with a time limit. That in particular was just a completely miserable experience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bane_Of_Despair 02/24/24 7:08:12 PM #5:	th3l3fty posted... Subcon > Alpine > Mafia > Birds > Nyakuza >> Arctic the DJ Grooves levels are the worst ones in the main game, but the cruise has one that's just unforgivably bad I didn't play the DLC yet but I generally agree with this, especially the DJ Grooves levels. Choosing to have The Conductor win was such a no brainer --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air <cite>Bane_Of_Despair posted [p:979024622] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>th3l3fty posted... </cite><quote>Subcon > Alpine > Mafia > Birds > Nyakuza >> Arcticthe DJ Grooves levels are the worst ones in the main game, but the cruise has one that's just unforgivably bad</quote>I didn't play the DLC yet but I generally agree with this, especially the DJ Grooves levels. Choosing to have The Conductor win was such a no brainer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NBIceman 02/24/24 7:22:39 PM #6:	Might be my favorite 3d platformer. Alpine might be my favorite 3d platformer level. --- Chilly McFreeze https://i.imgur.com/UYamul2.gif <cite>NBIceman posted [p:979024816] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Might be my favorite 3d platformer. Alpine might be my favorite 3d platformer level. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Snake5555555555 02/24/24 7:36:02 PM #7:	Subcon Forest because it has Queen Vanessa's Manor --- I've decided to put my fears behind me. I'm not going back. If you're gonna scream, scream with me <cite>Snake5555555555 posted [p:979025017] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Subcon Forest because it has Queen Vanessa's Manor </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tcaz2 02/24/24 7:55:29 PM #8:	I never went back and played the stuff they added after launch. I should replay this some time, I really liked it a lot. <cite>tcaz2 posted [p:979025285] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>I never went back and played the stuff they added after launch. I should replay this some time, I really liked it a lot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 02/25/24 2:12:26 PM #9:	a bump in time <cite>andylt posted [p:979036689] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>a bump in time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LazyKenny 02/25/24 6:08:43 PM #10:	Birds > Subcon > Mafia > Alpine. Haven't touched the DLCs. --- Someday, I too will become Florida Man. <cite>LazyKenny posted [p:979040204] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Birds > Subcon > Mafia > Alpine.Haven't touched the DLCs. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Johnbobb 02/25/24 7:10:50 PM #11:	Mafia > Alpine > Nyakuza > Cruise > Subcon > Birds The DJ Grooves levels were very fun for a few minutes but become extremely exhausting, especially on the more difficult challenges Mafia Town is one of my favorite levels in any platformer and the interactions with the Mafia are the best --- Khal Kirby, warlord of the Super Star Khalasar PSN/Steam: CheddarBBQ https://goo.gl/Diw2hs <cite>Johnbobb posted [p:979041183] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Mafia > Alpine > Nyakuza > Cruise > Subcon > BirdsThe DJ Grooves levels were very fun for a few minutes but become extremely exhausting, especially on the more difficult challengesMafia Town is one of my favorite levels in any platformer and the interactions with the Mafia are the best </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NFUN 02/25/24 7:15:21 PM #12:	nyakuza > rest because of name --- List the ominous stern whisper from the delphic cave within: They enslave their children's children who make compromise with sin <cite>NFUN posted [p:979041260] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>nyakuza > rest because of name </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 02/25/24 7:42:33 PM #13:	I'm surprised at the Mafia votes. I think it's a fine intro level but aside from the Mafia themselves (who I don't think are as good as Chapter 2 and 3's NPCs) there's nothing drawing me to it. It has the most typical 3D VG Platformer structure of them all, it could easily be an early Mario 64 level... which come to think of it may be the appeal for many! OK never mind. Nyakuza is an appealing name, this is true. <cite>andylt posted [p:979041667] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>I'm surprised at the Mafia votes. I think it's a fine intro level but aside from the Mafia themselves (who I don't think are as good as Chapter 2 and 3's NPCs) there's nothing drawing me to it. It has the most typical 3D VG Platformer structure of them all, it could easily be an early Mario 64 level... which come to think of it may be the appeal for many! OK never mind.Nyakuza is an appealing name, this is true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 02/25/24 9:38:15 PM #14:	It voted for level 1. I don't remember the levels super well, other than that I enjoyed that one, particularly the Mario 64-ness of it. I liked the forest too, but I don't recall it to the same extent. I do remember the train sucking though, so level 2 should be in last imo. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:979043473] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>It voted for level 1. I don't remember the levels super well, other than that I enjoyed that one, particularly the Mario 64-ness of it. I liked the forest too, but I don't recall it to the same extent.I do remember the train sucking though, so level 2 should be in last imo. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
th3l3fty 02/25/24 9:54:50 PM #15:	Nyakuza is a good name but the level itself is a massive pain to navigate ...at least they don't make you deliver things between random points in it too --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -transience I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris <cite>th3l3fty posted [p:979043734] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Nyakuza is a good name but the level itself is a massive pain to navigate...at least they don't make you deliver things between random points in it too </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 02/25/24 10:36:12 PM #16:	Birds was the most impactful by far, really pushed the game over the edge. But I think Alpine has the best gameplay. Nyakuza too but as DLC it felt disconnected. Interesting how even the votes are. Such a great variety in levels. No matter how much people want to compare the controls and physics in this game to Mario, there's no comparison in creativity. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:979044355] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Birds was the most impactful by far, really pushed the game over the edge. But I think Alpine has the best gameplay. Nyakuza too but as DLC it felt disconnected.Interesting how even the votes are. Such a great variety in levels. No matter how much people want to compare the controls and physics in this game to Mario, there's no comparison in creativity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bane_Of_Despair 02/25/24 11:15:16 PM #17:	I don't really think it holds much of a candle to Mario tbh but it's fun for what it is --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air <cite>Bane_Of_Despair posted [p:979044919] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>I don't really think it holds much of a candle to Mario tbh but it's fun for what it is </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 02/26/24 2:07:50 PM #18:	foolm0r0n posted... Interesting how even the votes are poor Arctic Cruise <cite>andylt posted [p:979054852] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted... </cite><quote>Interesting how even the votes are</quote>poor Arctic Cruise</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
th3l3fty 02/26/24 2:41:52 PM #19:	Arctic Cruise knows what it did --- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -transience I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris <cite>th3l3fty posted [p:979055506] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Arctic Cruise knows what it did </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 02/26/24 2:49:12 PM #20:	I would say Alpine if it wasn't so god-awful to navigate. Subcon and Nyakuza fight for the top. Birds is the worst despite having Train Rush because seriously F the parade and the stealth levels and stuff. Have not played Cruise. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:979055650] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>I would say Alpine if it wasn't so god-awful to navigate.Subcon and Nyakuza fight for the top. Birds is the worst despite having Train Rush because seriously F the parade and the stealth levels and stuff. Have not played Cruise. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tcaz2 02/26/24 3:07:48 PM #21:	azuarc posted... F the parade and the stealth levels and stuff. lmao git gud scrub <cite>tcaz2 posted [p:979055985] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>azuarc posted... </cite><quote>F the parade and the stealth levels and stuff.</quote>lmao git gud scrub</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xeybozn 02/26/24 3:14:21 PM #22:	Nyakuza > Subcon > Alpine > Mafia > Birds >>>>> Cruise The important thing is that Arctic Cruise is garbage. --- Congrats to 2020 GotD Guru champ azuarc! <cite>Xeybozn posted [p:979056099] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Nyakuza > Subcon > Alpine > Mafia > Birds >>>>> CruiseThe important thing is that Arctic Cruise is garbage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 02/26/24 4:57:54 PM #23:	Well I won't be getting the Seal the Deal DLC, I suppose (unless the challenges part is good?). azuarc posted... F the parade and the stealth levels and stuff. I'll give you the parade, but Murder on the Owl Express is one of my favs in the whole game! <cite>andylt posted [p:979057826] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Well I won't be getting the Seal the Deal DLC, I suppose (unless the challenges part is good?).azuarc posted... </cite><quote>F the parade and the stealth levels and stuff.</quote>I'll give you the parade, but Murder on the Owl Express is one of my favs in the whole game!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KCF0107 02/26/24 4:59:34 PM #24:	Xeybozn posted... Nyakuza > Subcon > Alpine > Mafia > Birds >>>>> Cruise This is probably my ranking as well --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy <cite>KCF0107 posted [p:979057853] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Xeybozn posted...</cite><quote>Nyakuza > Subcon > Alpine > Mafia > Birds >>>>> Cruise</quote>This is probably my ranking as well </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zigzagoon 02/26/24 5:18:29 PM #25:	Birds definitely. Conductor is a great character (And Boss fight!) and the levels were fun! :) --- ~Silver_Ermine~ http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9r5hhXQbJ1rbct63o1_500.gif <cite>Zigzagoon posted [p:979058159] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Birds definitely. Conductor is a great character (And Boss fight!) and the levels were fun! :) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bane_Of_Despair 02/26/24 5:57:26 PM #26:	The Conductor is the best character in the game true, followed by The Snatcher --- You were the cancer, that's all you'll ever be I really messed up this contest, but azuarc gave it a Breath of fresh air <cite>Bane_Of_Despair posted [p:979058839] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>The Conductor is the best character in the game true, followed by The Snatcher </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 02/26/24 6:04:28 PM #27:	Snatcher is my #1. But I'm glad we all agree owls > penguins. Zigzagoon posted... Conductor is a great character (And Boss fight!) That reminds me, I'll have to look at how the DJ Grooves boss fight goes <cite>andylt posted [p:979058945] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Snatcher is my #1. But I'm glad we all agree owls > penguins.Zigzagoon posted... </cite><quote>Conductor is a great character (And Boss fight!)</quote>That reminds me, I'll have to look at how the DJ Grooves boss fight goes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KateMarsh 02/26/24 6:21:01 PM #28:	andylt posted... That reminds me, I'll have to look at how the DJ Grooves boss fight goes I love how none of us got this because the parade level is so stupidly hard. --- a darkx alt <cite>KateMarsh posted [p:979059211] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>andylt posted... </cite><quote>That reminds me, I'll have to look at how the DJ Grooves boss fight goes</quote>I love how none of us got this because the parade level is so stupidly hard. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KateMarsh 02/26/24 6:23:33 PM #29:	Bane_Of_Despair posted... The Conductor is the best character in the game true, followed by The Snatcher Hmm..... I think I can agree with this. --- a darkx alt <cite>KateMarsh posted [p:979059254] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>Bane_Of_Despair posted... </cite><quote>The Conductor is the best character in the game true, followed by The Snatcher</quote>Hmm..... I think I can agree with this. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 02/26/24 7:20:43 PM #30:	I actually loved the parade level and I might have done the DJ Groove fight? --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:979060137] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>I actually loved the parade level and I might have done the DJ Groove fight? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
andylt 02/26/24 8:14:39 PM #31:	KateMarsh posted... I love how none of us got this because the parade level is so stupidly hard. Grooves was actually winning the award for me after I'd first done all the levels. I chose to go back and redo Train Rush to get Conductor the win >_> <cite>andylt posted [p:979061132] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>KateMarsh posted... </cite><quote>I love how none of us got this because the parade level is so stupidly hard.</quote>Grooves was actually winning the award for me after I'd first done all the levels. I chose to go back and redo Train Rush to get Conductor the win >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KCF0107 02/27/24 6:11:48 AM #32:	It has been 6 or so years, but I am pretty sure that my fight was against DJ --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy <cite>KCF0107 posted [p:979067254] in A Hat in T... [t:80705125]...</cite> <quote>It has been 6 or so years, but I am pretty sure that my fight was against DJ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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