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CableZL
02/23/24 12:43:48 AM
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/20/politics/michigan-gop-financial-turmoil-infighting-invs/index.html

Basically:
  • They elected Kristina Karamo, an election denier, as party chair.
  • At least two state party meetings have ended in physical altercations. Someone was kicked in the nuts on at least one occasion.
  • She misused funds and the Michigan GOP is on the verge of bankruptcy and likely broke campaign finance laws (https://www.mlive.com/politics/2023/12/michigan-gop-on-the-brink-of-bankruptcy-broke-campaign-finance-laws-report-alleges.html)
  • They voted to oust Kristina Karamo and elected Pete Hoekstra to be party chair
  • Karamo is an election denier, though, so she refused to accept the fact that she was ousted.
  • There are now two dueling factions of the Michigan GOP and theyre going to have two separate conventions (https://apnews.com/article/michigan-gop-presidential-convention-nominating-c39147c98073eea712611648b31345b8)
  • They even have two different versions of the Michigan GOP web site where one says Karamo is the party chair and the other says Hoekstra is the party chair. (Karamo: https://migop.org vs Hoekstra: https://michiganrepublicanparty.com)
  • The two factions went to the national Republican party to solve the disagreement. The national Republican party recognizes Hoekstra as the Michigan state party chair.
  • Karamo is still an election denier, though, so she doesnt accept that.
  • Karamo is still in control of the partys bank accounts
  • Not sure how the hell their primary is going to work like this. Edit: Just looked it up. Theyre going to do a primary AND a caucus, but each faction of the Michigan GOP is going to be holding separate caucuses in separate cities. WTF


What the hell

Edit: Turmoil*

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Bass
02/23/24 12:44:48 AM
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Good. Get fucked GOP.

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Humble_Novice
02/23/24 12:45:33 AM
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If this keeps up, then Biden and the Democrats have a better chance of winning Michigan.

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Unknown5uspect
02/23/24 12:48:22 AM
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The entire fucking party needs to just collapse at this point

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lydiaquayle
02/23/24 12:50:20 AM
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CableZL posted...
Karamo is still an election denier, though, so she doesnt accept that.
Karamo is still in control of the partys bank accounts
Pretty sure that the RNC can freeze the account via court order.

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MC_BatCommander
02/23/24 12:50:27 AM
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How embarrassing, republicans just can't lead at all

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Tyranthraxus
02/23/24 12:52:25 AM
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lydiaquayle posted...
Pretty sure that the RNC can freeze the account via court order.

These are political funds I don't think you can just freeze them like that.

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mybbqrules
02/23/24 12:53:27 AM
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Fuck 'em. Unless they have evidence, they'll get ignored right back.

Plus, let the GOP become the party of crying foul when they lose, just will turn more people off to their whining, baby asses.

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ssb_yunglink2
02/23/24 12:55:08 AM
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It is fucking insane that nuh uh i didnt lose is a valid card to play in mainstream politics now.

like what the fuck

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hereforemnant
02/23/24 12:55:37 AM
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mybbqrules posted...
Fuck 'em. Unless they have evidence, they'll get ignored right back.

Plus, let the GOP become the party of crying foul when they lose, just will turn more people off to their whining, baby asses.
I should have tried this strategy when I was in grade school & didn't get what I wanted, clearly it works so well lmao /s

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Null_Gain
02/23/24 12:57:56 AM
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Good for the state of Michigan

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Red_XIV
02/23/24 1:03:51 AM
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CableZL posted...
Karamo is still in control of the partys bank accounts
Which seems like it wouldn't mean anything, given that the party's bank accounts are empty.

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SpawnShadow
02/23/24 1:07:12 AM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
The entire fucking party needs to just collapse at this point
I'd like to hope that Donnie siphoning PAC and RNC cash to pay his legal bills will end up causing that, but the last several years of watching him and the GQP go full-fash without being sent to Gitmo for sedition and terrorism have left me rather jaded.
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Dark_Arbron
02/23/24 1:17:41 AM
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ssb_yunglink2 posted...
It is fucking insane that nuh uh i didnt lose is a valid card to play in mainstream politics now.

like what the fuck

Hes normalized it as Republican policy only. Everyone else quite rightly tells them to shut the fuck up.

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ellis123
02/23/24 1:24:06 AM
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Bass posted...
Good. Get fucked GOP.


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runewalshPSiv
02/23/24 1:24:45 AM
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Humble_Novice posted...
If this keeps up, then Biden and the Democrats have a better chance of winning Michigan.

Bass posted...
Good. Get fucked GOP.


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Vyrulisse
02/23/24 1:26:32 AM
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Someone was kicked in the nuts on at least one occasion.

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Humble_Novice
02/23/24 1:45:45 AM
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This is good because it balances out Biden's unpopularity with certain demographics in the state. Both the results of the upcoming primary and the fragmented status of the local GOP will help determine which presidential candidate ends up taking the state in 2024.

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R_Jackal
02/23/24 1:59:57 AM
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It's almost like leaning in to a bunch of conspiracy theory shit for your political party fills it with paranoid conspiracy theorists.

Who could've seen this coming?
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streamofthesky
02/23/24 2:24:53 AM
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CableZL posted...
They even have two different versions of the Michigan GOP web site where one says Karamo is the party chair and the other says Hoekstra is the party chair. (Karamo: https://migop.org vs Hoekstra: https://michiganrepublicanparty.com)

Are there like... any standards at all for what constitutes a .org domain?
Because I'm pretty sure the ousted election denying crackpot lady doesn't meet them if there are any.
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Hornezz
02/23/24 3:45:35 AM
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Lol, Pete Hoekstra. He was Trump's pick as ambassador to the Netherlands and he was just an ongoing joke.

https://youtu.be/K8AwFc9hlf4?si=U8uH6zLMoi8-f4Hw

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JE19426
02/23/24 4:02:16 AM
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streamofthesky posted...
Are there like... any standards at all for what constitutes a .org domain?

No, it's got no requirements at all. Anyone or any organisation can register on it.
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Axiom
02/23/24 4:06:45 AM
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Lmao election deniers are just kids that put their hands over their ears and scream no

At least these idiots have made politics more interesting
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ArsGoetia
02/23/24 4:27:46 AM
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just a bunch of terds in the terlet
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ClayGuida
02/23/24 6:37:19 AM
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ArsGoetia posted...
just a bunch of terds in the terlet
Sometimes there's shit on the outside of the urinus.

Anyway, this is what happens when you keep electing dems, because dems got control of the state legislature and governorship, Republicans went batshit insane.

Do this in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and other purple states. We saw what happens when you flip a purple state solid blue like Colorado.

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UnsteadyOwl
02/23/24 7:14:03 AM
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Yeah, Republicans are learning why you don't just let election denial be normalized. It's never just going to be limited to use as a bludgeon against the other party.

But I guess even Republicans who knew this were too scared to stand up to Trump and the few who tried like Liz Cheney were ousted from the party.

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creativerealms
02/23/24 7:16:43 AM
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Good.

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Unsuprised_Pika
02/23/24 7:36:48 AM
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Biden threw them a lifeline in Michigan by bleeding muslim support and they are still gonna blow every advantage they have lmao

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K181
02/23/24 7:39:38 AM
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If Biden wins reelection because of a win in Michigan as a result of a split state GOP due to a Trump-inspired election denier refusing to give up, I will laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh and laugh.

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bfslick50
02/23/24 7:47:04 AM
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UnsteadyOwl posted...
Yeah, Republicans are learning why you don't just let election denial be normalized. It's never just going to be limited to use as a bludgeon against the other party.

Who could've predicted that these face-eating leopards would eat my face too?

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sauceje
02/23/24 7:48:28 AM
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You mean, they voted for election deniers and were surprised when they couldn't vote them out?
Holy shit get utterly fucked GOP

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KiwiTerraRizing
02/23/24 7:50:04 AM
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Michigan being pretty solidly blue helps the pain of Florida going dark red.

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boomgetchopped3
02/23/24 7:50:15 AM
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Sounds like a fucking mess

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mustachedmystic
02/23/24 7:51:35 AM
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JE19426 posted...
No, it's got no requirements at all. Anyone or any organisation can register on it.
Iirc, the only domain with any requirements is .edu.

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pjnelson
02/23/24 7:51:38 AM
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Bass posted...
Good. Get fucked GOP.


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PeteyParker
02/23/24 7:52:00 AM
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Bass posted...
Good. Get fucked GOP.


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projectpat72988
02/23/24 7:52:59 AM
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The person who ran against the current governor of MI said something to the effect of. She is even against abortions where people raped little girls.

Not really sure in which world you can expect to say that and manage to win.

She got destroyed of course.
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Irony
02/23/24 7:55:37 AM
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Turdmoil

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creativerealms
02/23/24 7:57:00 AM
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Biden threw them a lifeline in Michigan by bleeding muslim support and they are still gonna blow every advantage they have lmao
Republicans don't want Muslim support so they would do nothing to win those voters.

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projectpat72988
02/23/24 7:58:28 AM
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KiwiTerraRizing posted...
Michigan being pretty solidly blue helps the pain of Florida going dark red.

It's actually pretty tight. Trump won MI in 2016. Biden won in 2020 by a small margin.
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LearntoRead
02/23/24 7:59:53 AM
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See, it seems like they could have helped their money problems if they just televised those fights. What a wasted opportunity.
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Jiek_Fafn
02/23/24 8:06:19 AM
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Can't their God king unify them and just appoint a leader? Surely they'll listen to him

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Heineken14
02/23/24 8:06:49 AM
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If we're lucky, the GOP on the national level descends into this sort of chaos with a Donnie faction and a non-Donnie faction all fighting each other.

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Flaming_Fire619
02/23/24 8:13:19 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Republicans don't want Muslim support so they would do nothing to win those voters.

It doesn't matter if they don't win those voters. All that matters to them is that they don't vote Biden. They were never going to get them to vote Republican, but them choosing to just abstain from voting Biden in tight races is basically a net victory for them.

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uwnim
02/23/24 8:19:30 AM
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Flaming_Fire619 posted...
It doesn't matter if they don't win those voters. All that matters to them is that they don't vote Biden. They were never going to get them to vote Republican, but them choosing to just abstain from voting Biden in tight races is basically a net victory for them.
Yep. Someone who'd normally vote for your opponent deciding to not vote is a 0, -1. Every two of them provides the same value as one voter switching their vote to you( 1, -1 and 0, -2 both move the vote by two in your favor).

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Unsuprised_Pika
02/23/24 8:25:36 AM
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creativerealms posted...
Republicans don't want Muslim support so they would do nothing to win those voters.

They benifit as long as they simply sit out the vote or protest vote for a third party

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wackyteen
02/23/24 8:27:38 AM
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No no Termoil is correct

The term is covered in oil and it's lit on fire

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RchHomieQuanChi
02/23/24 8:46:29 AM
#49:


Unknown5uspect posted...
The entire fucking party needs to just collapse at this point

I think it's inevitable at this point. At least if Biden wins in November.

The question is how much damage will they do to the country as they're kicking and screaming their way out.

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creativerealms
02/23/24 8:56:51 AM
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True, Muslims not voting at all helps republicans.

With the way the state and national GOP is falling apart across the country Dems should be taking advantage of the chaos. Instead they are making their own mistakes.

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