Board 8 > Sony not releasing any major existing first party titles in the next year

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SHINE_GET_64
02/14/24 6:40:44 AM
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https://www.gematsu.com/2024/02/sony-interactive-entertainment-will-not-release-any-new-major-existing-franchise-titles-before-march-31-2025

Gonna need those Xbox titles on PS5 then

Switch 2 is gonna have the holiday to itself

But also news like this reads to me like "great I can finally catch up on some things"

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shane15
02/14/24 6:56:14 AM
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Them saying we're entering the latter stages of the life cycle is pretty crazy. I got my PS5 November and have hardly touched it. It's starting to just feel like a PS4 Pro+ at this point. Wish i'd just stuck to my original plan and upgraded my PC then waited to see what the new Nintendo system looks like.

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LiquidOshawott
02/14/24 7:30:40 AM
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this doesnt rule out new IPs though

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andylt
02/14/24 7:36:02 AM
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Does this mean no more Naughty Dog remasters in the next 12 months? Are they sure???
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LightningStrikes
02/14/24 7:43:04 AM
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I said it in the Xbox topic but these results do not look so hot for Playstation. The PS4 seems uncatchable by the PS5 now, on much smaller profit margins. Overall profits are significantly down which also means they cant do a substantial price drop like they did for the PS4. They missed their target by a lot and have a good chance of missing their new one. And this lack of big games combined with no price drop likely means things will slow from here. Expecting the PS6 to be a return to weaker, cheaper hardware which might be a good thing.

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LiquidOshawott
02/14/24 9:31:08 AM
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LightningStrikes posted...
I said it in the Xbox topic but these results do not look so hot for Playstation. The PS4 seems uncatchable by the PS5 now, on much smaller profit margins. Overall profits are significantly down which also means they cant do a substantial price drop like they did for the PS4. They missed their target by a lot and have a good chance of missing their new one. And this lack of big games combined with no price drop likely means things will slow from here. Expecting the PS6 to be a return to weaker, cheaper hardware which might be a good thing.

I think it will be mostly a expansion on some of the things PS5 have done (Dualsense has felt barely implemented) but I also expect just a straight up death of physical games (maybe a disc drive thats optional/more expensive) and maybe even less of a focus on open world games (Great news for the haters on this board of the genre)


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GranzonEx
02/14/24 9:33:25 AM
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What having no competition does to a a MFer

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swordz9
02/14/24 9:35:22 AM
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PS5 is barely 3 years old, but still worth having over a PS4 model even for PS4 games. That being said Im not ready to upgrade to a PS6 anytime soon
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Reg
02/14/24 10:03:18 AM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
I think it will be mostly a expansion on some of the things PS5 have done (Dualsense has felt barely implemented) but I also expect just a straight up death of physical games (maybe a disc drive thats optional/more expensive) and maybe even less of a focus on open world games (Great news for the haters on this board of the genre)
I don't even know why I opened this topic but as one of those haters

A) Yes pls
B) Still almost certainly won't get me to pick up a PS5 or hypothetical PS6 over upgrading my PC and playing whatever there.
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pjbasis
02/14/24 10:10:08 AM
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Another year of no new inFAMOUS...

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swordz9
02/14/24 10:12:23 AM
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Im not expecting physical gaming to go away anytime soon either.
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GranzonEx
02/14/24 10:13:04 AM
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Reg posted...
I don't even know why I opened this topic but as one of those haters

A) Yes pls
B) Still almost certainly won't get me to pick up a PS5 or hypothetical PS6 over upgrading my PC and playing whatever there.
Does PS5 even have any exclusives? Almost all the JRPGs are on PC/Switch and that was really the only reason to ever go with Sony.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/14/24 10:15:41 AM
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They said "entering the latter half" of the console cycle which means we probably have another 4-5 years before PS6. If the industry is even in good position for that in 2028.

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Leonhart4
02/14/24 10:16:17 AM
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They've had timed exclusives, which is the most you can ask for at this point in the game

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GranzonEx
02/14/24 10:22:23 AM
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Leonhart4 posted...
They've had timed exclusives, which is the most you can ask for at this point in the game
I forgot they also have Kojima's new game locked up. That might be PS6 at this rate.

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MacArrowny
02/14/24 10:24:35 AM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
maybe even less of a focus on open world games
What? Why? Open world games are hugely successful.

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LiquidOshawott
02/14/24 10:33:25 AM
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MacArrowny posted...
What? Why? Open world games are hugely successful.

I think the big ones will stick around (GTA/Zelda/Elder Scrolls etc) but there wont be as much of a focus on them just because of ballooning costs in the industry. At the very least, less new IPs built around them but maybe just built around old IPs that are trusted.

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skullbone
02/14/24 10:41:36 AM
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https://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/playstation-4-final-phase-of-lifecycle/

This article was in 2018 so still 2.5 years away from PS5.

I'd say we're 3-4 years away from a PS6 still.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/14/24 10:44:33 AM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
and maybe even less of a focus on open world games (Great news for the haters on this board of the genre)



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shane15
02/14/24 10:49:43 AM
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Dark Souls style games are the ones i wish would die off. Great if you're into that stuff but pretty much everything these days is a clone of it.

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Leonhart4
02/14/24 10:53:30 AM
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More games like FFX please

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paperwarior
02/14/24 11:06:37 AM
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New Playstations have released on a pretty steady 6-7 year schedule, so what's surprising about PS5 being described that way 3 years in? It does make sense to take longer at the moment, though.

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MacArrowny
02/14/24 11:10:01 AM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
I think the big ones will stick around (GTA/Zelda/Elder Scrolls etc) but there wont be as much of a focus on them just because of ballooning costs in the industry. At the very least, less new IPs built around them but maybe just built around old IPs that are trusted.
Does Sony even have that many open world games? There's Spider-Man, Horizon, and Ghost of Tsushima. I don't really see any of those going away.

paperwarior posted...
New Playstations have released on a pretty steady 6-7 year schedule, so what's surprising about PS5 being described that way 3 years in? It does make sense to take longer at the moment, though.
FTC documents suggested PS6 was coming in 2028.

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LightningStrikes
02/14/24 11:12:27 AM
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Its not open world thats the issue. Its the ultra-high fidelity cinematic single player games, of which very few are open world. Breath of the Wild cost less than half what these big Sony games cost. You can make open world games affordably they just dont look like Spider-Man 2. But also, Immortals of Aveum cost $125m. Those budgets need to come down.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/14/24 11:17:01 AM
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I wonder how much a game like Unicorn Overlord costs?

That's probably gonna be one of the best games of the year and I imagine it's a fraction of these 9 digit dumpster fires.

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TomNook7
02/14/24 11:17:45 AM
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i feel like ive barely dipped my toes into the ps5

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MacArrowny
02/14/24 11:23:36 AM
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UshiromiyaEva posted...
I wonder how much a game like Unicorn Overlord costs?

That's probably gonna be one of the best games of the year and I imagine it's a fraction of these 9 digit dumpster fires.
Japanese companies pay their developers less. The average FromSoft salary is a third of the average Insomniac salary. Would you consider that a good thing?

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/14/24 11:24:38 AM
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LightningStrikes posted...
Its not open world thats the issue. Its the ultra-high fidelity cinematic single player games, of which very few are open world. Breath of the Wild cost less than half what these big Sony games cost. You can make open world games affordably they just dont look like Spider-Man 2. But also, Immortals of Aveum cost $125m. Those budgets need to come down.

Breath of the Wild would not be an exception here. Half of the budget of the Sony Spider-Man games is still $150-200 million. Granted, I don't think we actually know Nintendo budgets because they're very opaque, but another part of the issue isn't just fidelity but development time going up (ie longer time paying all the developers), and games take years and years to make.

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LightningStrikes
02/14/24 11:30:41 AM
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Based on Nintendos comments on how much they needed to sell to break even it seems that Breath of the Wild had a total budget (seemingly including marketing and distribution) of around $100 million. Based on staff sizes the only two Nintendo games with higher budgets are likely Super Smash Bros Ultimate and Tears of the Kingdom. Nintendo also pays high salaries for a Japanese developer.

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PeaceFrog
02/14/24 11:42:30 AM
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MacArrowny posted...
Does Sony even have that many open world games? There's Spider-Man, Horizon, and Ghost of Tsushima. I don't really see any of those going away.
Infamous comeback when

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MacArrowny
02/14/24 11:48:28 AM
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On the bright side, none of Sony's games compare to Halo Infinite's $500 million budget.

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LiquidOshawott
02/14/24 11:48:58 AM
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Was thinking of Days Gone when I posted that because it doesnt seem like theyre gonna do another one of those but I guess that is more just the new IP line for these high budget story/open world games

maybe they will let a trusted studio like Naughty Dog or Santa Monica do something if they want to

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firefdr
02/14/24 12:39:00 PM
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PS6 confirmed
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swirIdude
02/14/24 2:29:05 PM
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PlayStoner of the day

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swordz9
02/14/24 2:45:16 PM
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How much did Immortals Fenyx Rising cost to make? It was pretty good for an open world game. Genshin Impact cost $100M to make and looked pretty incredible too even before it added more regions
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Waluigi1
02/14/24 3:07:22 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Another year of no new inFAMOUS...
The biggest L of all

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foolm0r0n
02/14/24 3:11:19 PM
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LightningStrikes posted...
You can make open world games affordably they just dont look like Spider-Man 2.
This is a trap because you need to support a live game for months and years to actually make decent profit off of it. And that's very expensive and risky and leads to layoffs when the game is canceled because why would you need the live service team anymore?

Only a few devs can make prestige non-live open worlds like BOTW and Spiderman. Halo couldn't even do it.

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MacArrowny
02/14/24 3:23:33 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
This is a trap because you need to support a live game for months and years to actually make decent profit off of it. And that's very expensive and risky and leads to layoffs when the game is canceled because why would you need the live service team anymore?

Only a few devs can make prestige non-live open worlds like BOTW and Spiderman. Halo couldn't even do it.
Where does Xenoblade fit in?

Not to mention game of the year Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth.

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Maniac64
02/14/24 3:39:56 PM
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pjbasis posted...
Another year of no new inFAMOUS...
Even the Death Battle curse couldn't bring it back.

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foolm0r0n
02/14/24 5:42:19 PM
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MacArrowny posted...
Where does Xenoblade fit in?
I honestly can't believe that series makes any money. I think it's largely an R&D project for Nintendo, since the tech is used for BOTW.

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MacArrowny
02/14/24 5:54:35 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
I honestly can't believe that series makes any money. I think it's largely an R&D project for Nintendo, since the tech is used for BOTW.
Even though Xenoblade 2 was made by a team of 50 people in under 3 years?

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LightningStrikes
02/14/24 5:54:36 PM
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I dunno those are 2 million+ sellers and definitely not as expensive as other comparable AAA RPGs. Excellent games but definitely not FFXVI-sized budgets.

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/14/24 6:23:42 PM
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In the case of Yakuza/LAD, I would say that for one thing it is not meaningfully "open world" in the same way that an Ubisoft game or even Xenoblade is. The thing there is small but dense maps with high detail but only specific ways to interact. They also manage to have such high fidelity while pumping out releases because they reuse tons of assets every time. Which is a good thing imo, but in some ways that's opposed to the blockbuster AAA model of shiny new things. See also Tears of the Kingdom reusing the Hyrule map, and how that had mixed reception.

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Bitto
02/14/24 6:48:55 PM
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I bought a PS5 for Rebirth only lol

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ctesjbuvf
02/14/24 7:29:59 PM
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Bitto posted...
I bought a PS5 for Rebirth only lol

I bought mine to play Intergrade lol!

Though FF aside I would have bought it at some point anyway

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swordz9
02/14/24 7:33:09 PM
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I bought mine because I found one and at the time they were very hard to find. No regrets since its amazing
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foolm0r0n
02/14/24 7:35:21 PM
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LightningStrikes posted...
those are 2 million+ sellers
That is surprising but I guess I did buy them

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LiquidOshawott
02/14/24 8:22:12 PM
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Japan in general is entering a recession so I actually wonder how sustainable game development is for some of the mid level companies

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GranzonEx
02/14/24 8:27:33 PM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
Japan in general is entering a recession so I actually wonder how sustainable game development is for some of the mid level companies
It won't be sustainable. That's where Sony comes in and buys them all. Monopolies are so fun.

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MacArrowny
02/14/24 8:49:42 PM
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LiquidOshawott posted...
Japan in general is entering a recession so I actually wonder how sustainable game development is for some of the mid level companies
The worse the yen is the better Japan's game industry will do, since most of their sales are overseas.

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