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CableZL
02/06/24 6:46:08 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PThfYee8aE4

The vote failed. 214 Yea, 216 Nay

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Blue_Inigo
02/06/24 6:46:34 PM
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Who?

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thronedfire2
02/06/24 6:46:58 PM
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well, that's embarrassing. the news today even said one of the prelim votes passed, but people must have switched

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Starks
02/06/24 6:50:42 PM
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No, Scalise is on a medical absence and Al Green was unexpectedly present.

Moore voted against for procedural reasons after it already lost, which I don't think was necessary like it can be for the Majority Leader in the Senate.

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Kradek
02/06/24 6:51:49 PM
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They literally only have a 1 seat majority. These people are so fucking dumb that they keep just going full-steam ahead like they were when they had a 5 seat majority, which still got in the way of what they wanted.

All they do is continue to expose themselves as the jokes that they are.

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ClayGuida
02/06/24 6:51:52 PM
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So a straight up impeachment vote, no inquiry, no investigation? The hell?

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thronedfire2
02/06/24 6:52:49 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
So a straight up impeachment vote, no inquiry, no investigation? The hell?

they're voting to impeach him for not protecting the border while also voting against a border security funding bill

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Kradek
02/06/24 6:53:41 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Who?

Homeland Secretary. The criticism of his handling of the border ranges from he does nothing to he's actively making it worse. The nerve to still go through with this after they rejected the Senate & Biden's attempt at border legislation is astounding, but they insist on making themselves out to be the dumbest and most tone deaf fucking people ever sent to Congress, so full-steam ahead, I guess.

ClayGuida posted...
So a straight up impeachment vote, no inquiry, no investigation? The hell?

You know this is all political theater to make the racists hard as a rock.

thronedfire2 posted...
they're voting to impeach him for not protecting the border while also voting against a border security funding bill

Not even voting against, they straight up refuse to even take it up or debate on it, referring to it as "dead on arrival".

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Robot2600
02/06/24 6:53:47 PM
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maybe we should impeach the gop for failing to protect the border or w/e

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Starks
02/06/24 6:54:15 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
So a straight up impeachment vote, no inquiry, no investigation? The hell?
It's been through the committees. Not much of a process though.

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Westernwolf4
02/06/24 7:02:49 PM
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Kradek posted...
Homeland Secretary. The criticism of his handling of the border ranges from he does nothing to he's actively making it worse. The nerve to still go through with this after they rejected the Senate & Biden's attempt at border legislation is astounding, but they insist on making themselves out to be the dumbest and most tone deaf fucking people ever sent to Congress, so full-steam ahead, I guess.

You know this is all political theater to make the racists hard as a rock.

I agree with this, except to say that it is the voters they are courting who are dumb as rocks. Or racists. Or cultists. Or gullible propaganda swallowers. Or those who only want to see trolling instead of government and want to watch the world burn. Or all of the above.

All this to say: There is no Republican in government who is a genius. But they are doing their usual performative bullshit because it is exactly what moronic MAGA voters expect to see.

These leaders know exactly what they are doing, which makes it worse. Selling out their country, integrity and personal dignity for some votes and a little power. What a joke every single one of them are.


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Kradek
02/06/24 7:05:17 PM
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Westernwolf4 posted...
I agree with this, except to say that it is the voters they are courting who are dumb as rocks. Or racists. Or cultists. Or gullible propaganda swallowers. Or those who only want to see trolling instead of government and want to watch the world burn. Or all of the above.

All this to say: There is no Republican in government who is a genius. But they are doing their usual performative bullshit because it is exactly what moronic MAGA voters expect to see.

These leaders know exactly what they are doing, which makes it worse. Selling out their country, integrity and personal dignity for some votes and a little power. What a joke every single one of them are.

That's why I said "making themselves out to be", as in putting on the performance as such. Some of them legitimately are really fucking dumb, however by and large yeah it's just performance for their base.


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darkace77450
02/06/24 7:08:17 PM
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Reminder: They're trying to impeach him for not securing the border despite the Biden administration apprehending a record number of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border in 2021, then breaking that record in 2022.

Reminder: They're trying to impeach him for not securing the border despite their opposition to bipartisan legislation that the Border Patrol union said would give them the resources they need to better do their job.

Reminder: They're trying to impeach him for not securing the border despite them openly admitting they don't want to secure to border because doing so would help Joe Biden's chances of reelection.
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ItsNotA2Mer
02/06/24 7:10:11 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8d0f3dde.jpg

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Westernwolf4
02/06/24 7:10:33 PM
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Kradek posted...
That's why I said "making themselves out to be", as in putting on the performance as such. Some of them legitimately are really fucking dumb, however by and large yeah it's just performance for their base.

I see. I absolutely agree with you. The GOP is a complete joke. This is just example number 1 billion.


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Takuya_Lee
02/06/24 7:12:21 PM
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ItsNotA2Mer posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8d0f3dde.jpg

Is that an actual pic taken or something someone created? With 45, I honestly cannot tell

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ItsNotA2Mer
02/06/24 7:13:57 PM
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Takuya_Lee posted...
Is that an actual pic taken or something someone created? With 45, I honestly cannot tell

I'm assuming the arm is fake. But it really sums up all that winning so well.

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CableZL
02/06/24 7:21:52 PM
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https://twitter.com/stephen_neukam/status/1755016508214739406

They wouldn't do it again, would they?

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CableZL
02/06/24 7:23:45 PM
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https://twitter.com/Democracy1stE/status/1754979754867064906

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Heineken14
02/06/24 7:26:19 PM
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CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/Democracy1stE/status/1754979754867064906

Jesus. lolol

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EPR-radar
02/06/24 7:33:35 PM
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It is grimly amusing to see House Republicans put on a clown show on the level of what we'd expect from the brainless local chuds.

It's much less amusing to realize that House Republican clowns have real power.

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MistyKnight
02/06/24 7:35:49 PM
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InfinityMonster
02/06/24 7:40:04 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
Reminder: They're trying to impeach him for not securing the border despite the Biden administration apprehending a record number of illegal immigrants crossing the southern border in 2021, then breaking that record in 2022.
Record apprehensions are an irrelevant point to bring up when migrants literally turn themselves in and they are then released into the US in record numbers.

And in terms of gotaways, which are people that evaded all border patrol.

2021- 600k
2022 - 600k
2023 - 860k

All breaking any previous records ever.

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TheSuperSilver
02/06/24 7:41:03 PM
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216 LOLs for the GOP house

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darkace77450
02/06/24 7:47:28 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
Record apprehensions are an irrelevant point to bring up when migrants literally turn themselves in and they are then released into the US in record numbers.

If you have a problem with that then you have a problem with the laws and regulations, not their applications. If only there was some bipartisan bill that would have addressed this. Does anyone know where we could find such a bill? Someone ask Senator Lankford if such a thing is even possible.
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aarrgus
02/06/24 7:50:00 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
Record apprehensions are an irrelevant point to bring up when migrants literally turn themselves in and they are then released into the US in record numbers.

And in terms of gotaways, which are people that evaded all border patrol.

2021- 600k
2022 - 600k
2023 - 860k

All breaking any previous records ever.

Then you should support a border bill that actually addresses the main problem... funding.

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EPR-radar
02/06/24 7:58:18 PM
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aarrgus posted...
Then you should support a border bill that actually addresses the main problem... funding.
LOL. All Republicans are good for is pissing and moaning about their purported "issues" while simultaneously preventing all attempts to fix anything.

But tax cuts for the rich are supposed to solve all problems.

Shame on the US electorate that this categorically worthless party has so much power.

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ClayGuida
02/06/24 8:04:45 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
Record apprehensions are an irrelevant point to bring up when migrants literally turn themselves in and they are then released into the US in record numbers.

And in terms of gotaways, which are people that evaded all border patrol.

2021- 600k
2022 - 600k
2023 - 860k

All breaking any previous records ever.
Gonna need a source for this.

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EPR-radar
02/06/24 8:08:58 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
Gonna need a source for this.
Epoch Times, OANN, Faux News, Gateway Pundit, and/or his colon.

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thronedfire2
02/06/24 8:11:41 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
Record apprehensions are an irrelevant point to bring up when migrants literally turn themselves in and they are then released into the US in record numbers.

And in terms of gotaways, which are people that evaded all border patrol.

2021- 600k
2022 - 600k
2023 - 860k

All breaking any previous records ever.

and there has been a record breaking amount of migrants every year. half the world is shit

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Gritty
02/06/24 8:12:01 PM
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I love how the childish cudgel that the GOP fails to wield each time is simply impeachment. Meanwhile, theyre the only one to get their fucking president impeached twice.
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EPR-radar
02/06/24 8:13:36 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

If we haven't already reached the point where "generic Republican" is worse than "generic Nazi", it's in the very near future.

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BewmHedshot
02/06/24 8:21:54 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
Record apprehensions are an irrelevant point to bring up when migrants literally turn themselves in and they are then released into the US in record numbers.

And in terms of gotaways, which are people that evaded all border patrol.

2021- 600k
2022 - 600k
2023 - 860k

All breaking any previous records ever.
Why should anybody give a damn about your probably faked numbers?
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InfinityMonster
02/06/24 10:00:37 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
If you have a problem with that then you have a problem with the laws and regulations, not their applications. If only there was some bipartisan bill that would have addressed this. Does anyone know where we could find such a bill? Someone ask Senator Lankford if such a thing is even possible.

aarrgus posted...
Then you should support a border bill that actually addresses the main problem... funding.
The bill is alright in terms of border security, but it does not stop release into the US and in fact will expand alternative to detention, so it doesn't really help us in NYC. It provides us no funding or anything for services provided to the migrants.

We've been waiting almost 2 years for something to change here in NYC and we've been ignored and it's only gotten worst and most of that time, we had Title 42, which helped reduced things, yet was still overwhelming. This bill would likely end up bringing us back to Title 42 levels.

You can't keep releasing people into the country with no support from the feds. This is not the job of states, cities and charities, which are all overwhelmed already. Entire migrant families are starting to end up in the streets.

ClayGuida posted...
Gonna need a source for this.
https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/asse
ts/2023-05/OIG-23-24-May23.pdf

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2024-01/59697-Demographic-Outlook.pdf

BewmHedshot posted...
Why should anybody give a damn about your probably faked numbers?
The first part of the response was to point out that record apprehensions doesn't mean anything when they voluntarily get apprehended. People bring it up with border security and use that to make it sound like they're being caught and returned or something, but it's straight up disinformation. Migrants walk up and are apprehended and then most are released into the US in 24-72 hours for their court date.

The numbers were to show that even if we're talking about border security, they're doing worse than ever before. 2019 and 2020 had only 150k and 300k.

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darkace77450
02/06/24 10:13:47 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
The first part of the response was to point out that record apprehensions doesn't mean anything when they voluntarily get apprehended. People bring it up with border security and use that to make it sound like they're being caught and returned or something, but it's straight up disinformation.

They're being "voluntarily apprehended" because requesting asylum requires them to do so. That they're released and given a distant court date is a problem with the system, not our enforcement (or lack thereof) of the law. The bipartisan bill would have, among other things, increased our system's capacity to process asylum claims at a more reasonable clip. Republicans shot it down because they don't want to fix the problem they'd rather campaign on.
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InfinityMonster
02/06/24 10:22:58 PM
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darkace77450 posted...
They're being "voluntarily apprehended" because requesting asylum requires them to do so.
Yeah, that's my point. You brought it up to show that border security is doing great because of all the apprehensions. But all record apprehensions shows is that they're letting in a record amount of people. It has nothing to do with security.

darkace77450 posted...
That they're released and given a distant court date is a problem with the system, not our enforcement (or lack thereof) of the law. The bipartisan bill would have, among other things, increased our system's capacity to process asylum claims at a more reasonable clip. Republicans shot it down because they don't want to fix the problem they'd rather campaign on.
No it wouldn't. It adds zero new judges and just speeds up the initial screening and Title 42 type removal.

The NY Times just reported the other day that even if they were to add 1k more judges, the current backlog still wouldn't be complete till 2032. If the system is overwhelmed, you stop, and it's clear several systems involved in this are overwhelmed.

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Heineken14
02/06/24 10:46:26 PM
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InfinityMonster posted...
Record apprehensions are an irrelevant point to bring up when migrants literally turn themselves in and they are then released into the US in record numbers.

And in terms of gotaways, which are people that evaded all border patrol.

2021- 600k
2022 - 600k
2023 - 860k

All breaking any previous records ever.

Once again democrats are at the mercy of the whims and figures and narratives of whatever the republicans want. Same reason shit like unemployment numbers never count under a democrat because... reasons.

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InfinityMonster
02/07/24 12:59:52 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
Once again democrats are at the mercy of the whims and figures and narratives of whatever the republicans want. Same reason shit like unemployment numbers never count under a democrat because... reasons.
What?

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Kradek
02/07/24 2:02:47 AM
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CableZL posted...
https://twitter.com/Democracy1stE/status/1754979754867064906

Why does CSPAN look like we're still in the 1990s?

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brestugo
02/07/24 6:36:15 AM
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Kradek posted...
They literally only have a 1 seat majority. These people are so fucking dumb that they keep just going full-steam ahead like they were when they had a 5 seat majority, which still got in the way of what they wanted.

All they do is continue to expose themselves as the jokes that they are.

Yeah, vote counting is part of legislating. Calling a vote without having every detail nailed down is scrotum brained. They can say they had "the balls" to do it, but it ends up being a stupid failure on a day when they had two others. Not a good look.

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02/07/24 8:02:19 AM
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RchHomieQuanChi
02/07/24 9:43:36 AM
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Surprise surprise: When the GOP isn't legislating away civil rights, they are laughably and stupidly incompetent.

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Kradek
02/07/24 9:53:45 AM
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brestugo posted...
Yeah, vote counting is part of legislating. Calling a vote without having every detail nailed down is scrotum brained. They can say they had "the balls" to do it, but it ends up being a stupid failure on a day when they had two others. Not a good look.

Ya, their base is going to hold the fact that they failed to successfully impeach Mayorkas out of ineptitude against them far more than they're going to laud the fact that they attempted to impeach him for ~checks notes~ doing his job.

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ClayGuida
02/07/24 10:06:43 AM
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InfinityMonster posted...
The bill is alright in terms of border security, but it does not stop release into the US and in fact will expand alternative to detention, so it doesn't really help us in NYC. It provides us no funding or anything for services provided to the migrants.

We've been waiting almost 2 years for something to change here in NYC and we've been ignored and it's only gotten worst and most of that time, we had Title 42, which helped reduced things, yet was still overwhelming. This bill would likely end up bringing us back to Title 42 levels.

You can't keep releasing people into the country with no support from the feds. This is not the job of states, cities and charities, which are all overwhelmed already. Entire migrant families are starting to end up in the streets.

https://www.oig.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/asse
ts/2023-05/OIG-23-24-May23.pdf

https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2024-01/59697-Demographic-Outlook.pdf

The first part of the response was to point out that record apprehensions doesn't mean anything when they voluntarily get apprehended. People bring it up with border security and use that to make it sound like they're being caught and returned or something, but it's straight up disinformation. Migrants walk up and are apprehended and then most are released into the US in 24-72 hours for their court date.

The numbers were to show that even if we're talking about border security, they're doing worse than ever before. 2019 and 2020 had only 150k and 300k.
Which pages are these? I skimmed through and didn't see your statistics cited.

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