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Cocytus
11/01/23 12:37:59 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/10/31/health/lawrence-faucette-second-pig-heart-transplant-dies/index.html

Second person to receive experimental pig heart transplant dies nearly six weeks after procedure

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Lawrence Faucette, the second living person to receive a genetically modified pig heart in a transplant, has died six weeks after the experimental procedure. The University of Maryland Medical Center, where the experimental procedure had been performed, said the heart began to show signs of rejection in recent days.

Mr. Faucettes last wish was for us to make the most of what we have learned from our experience, so others may be guaranteed a chance for a new heart when a human organ is unavailable. He then told the team of doctors and nurses who gathered around him that he loved us. We will miss him tremendously, Dr. Bartley Griffith, clinical director of the Cardiac Xenotransplantation Program at the University of Maryland School of Medicine, said in a statement. Griffith had performed the experimental surgery.

Faucette, 58, was first admitted to UMMC on September 14 after experiencing symptoms of heart failure and underwent the experimental transplant six days later. His heart disease and pre-existing conditions made him ineligible for a traditional human heart transplant.

My only real hope left is to go with the pig heart, the xenotransplant, Faucette told the hospital in an internal interview several days before the surgery.

We have no expectations other than hoping for more time together, his wife, Ann Faucette, said at the time. That could be as simple as sitting on the front porch and having coffee together.

In the weeks that immediately followed the transplant, his doctors reported that he was making significant progress, including participating in physical therapy and spending time with this family.

One month after his surgery, his doctors said they believed his heart function was excellent and had withdrawn any drugs to support his heart function.
Weve had no evidence of infections and no evidence of rejection right now, Griffith said at the time.

Doctors had treated Faucette with an experimental antibody treatment to further suppress the immune system and prevent rejection. However organ rejection is the most significant challenge with traditional transplants involving human organs as well, said UMMC in a statement.

In a statement regarding her husbands passing, Ann thanked those involved in her husbands care at UMMC.

Larry started this journey with an open mind and complete confidence in Dr. Griffith and his staff. He knew his time with us was short, and this was his last chance to do for others, she said.

According to the federal government, there are more than 113,000 people on the organ transplant list, including more than 3,300 people in need of a heart. The group Donate Life America says that 17 people die each day waiting for a donor organ.

In January 2022, the University of Maryland also performed the first such experimental surgery on 57-year-old David Bennett, who died two months following the surgery. While there were no signs of rejection in the initial weeks following the transplant, an autopsy concluded that Bennett ultimately died of heart failure from a complex array of factors, including Bennetts condition prior to the surgery. A case study published in the Lancet also noted there was evidence of pig virus that had not been identified previously.

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PoopPotato
11/01/23 12:40:34 PM
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Are we able to clone our own organs yet? Legally and scientifically?


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BurmesePenguin
11/01/23 12:40:34 PM
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Cocytus posted...
A case study published in the Lancet also noted there was evidence of pig virus that had not been identified previously.
How do you not properly check for that?

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Bandit_Keith
11/01/23 12:42:45 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
How do you not properly check for that?
There are plenty of things that you can't find until you autopsy.

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MC_BatCommander
11/01/23 12:43:47 PM
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6 weeks with a non human heart is pretty incredible, exciting stuff

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UnfairRepresent
11/01/23 12:44:14 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
6 weeks with a non human heart is pretty incredible, exciting stuff


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Simon_Gruber
11/01/23 12:45:43 PM
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6 weeks he wouldn't have gotten otherwise. Sounds like progress.
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berlyman101
11/01/23 12:46:47 PM
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pretty long time to live with a cop's heart

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GranAures
11/01/23 12:48:43 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
6 weeks with a non human heart is pretty incredible, exciting stuff
As a person who is .1% pig, kind of this.

Shame it didn't work for far longer.

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ai123
11/01/23 12:48:44 PM
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These transplants are only given to the sickest of patients.

The first human heart recipient lived 18 days. Now there's a guy who has survived 35 years.

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UnfairRepresent
11/01/23 12:50:18 PM
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berlyman101 posted...
pretty long time to live with a cop's heart
Not cool bro

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PoopPotato
11/01/23 12:51:26 PM
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I wonder how much it would cost to keep your clone organs in storage. Could you freeze em, or would they have to sit in a brine tank all bubbly and shit like Luke Skywalker?


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Tyranthraxus
11/02/23 11:40:35 PM
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ai123 posted...
These transplants are only given to the sickest of patients.

He wasn't particularly sick he just didn't qualify for a regular transplant. If he got one anyway, he'd have probably lasted much longer than 6 weeks. Basically his options boiled down to die now or die later and he chose later.

That said:

MC_BatCommander posted...
6 weeks with a non human heart is pretty incredible, exciting stuff

I'd be a bit more interested in what we can do with non human kidneys though.

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0Renegade
11/02/23 11:44:12 PM
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leave it to ce to turn this conversation into a cop topic

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Kradek
11/02/23 11:51:02 PM
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0Renegade posted...
leave it to ce to turn this conversation into a cop topic

3/16 posts is not the "topic".

And the originator was just a classic "cops = pigs" joke, which by no means originates here.

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Zikten
11/03/23 12:26:32 AM
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Would it have been possible to keep giving him fresh pig hearts and keep him alive?
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Tyranthraxus
11/03/23 12:28:10 AM
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Zikten posted...
Would it have been possible to keep giving him fresh pig hearts and keep him alive?

The pig virus didn't help that's for sure but at that point it was probably too late to do anything.

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C_Pain
11/03/23 12:29:33 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Not cool bro
I thought it was funny

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kage_53
11/03/23 12:30:52 AM
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Why is this a thing ?
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hockeybub89
11/03/23 12:31:17 AM
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kage_53 posted...
Why is this a thing ?
Because there aren't enough human hearts to go around

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A_Good_Boy
11/03/23 12:36:36 AM
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The sooner they iron out the kinks with pig heart transplants then the sooner the docs can move on to the real goal: baboon heart transplants! Then once we get baboob hearts we can finally reach the real medical advancement and start firing off Uber charges.

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Dark_Arbron
11/03/23 12:40:46 AM
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Religious bullshit tends to get in the way, but I wonder how much of that is actually tangible (politicians blocking things in exchange for funding from Christian groups) and not just the church voicing opposition (which is similarly ineffectual to the UN condemning war crimes).

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0Renegade
11/03/23 1:05:01 AM
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Kradek posted...
3/16 posts is not the "topic".

And the originator was just a classic "cops = pigs" joke, which by no means originates here.
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im fully aware of the cops = pigs joke but still dumb to joke about a dudes life here

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Dark_Arbron
11/03/23 1:08:04 AM
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0Renegade posted...
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im fully aware of the cops = pigs joke but still dumb to joke about a dudes life here

Agreed, but thats where you call out the (few) people doing it, not make a sweeping statement about the board.

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Humble_Novice
11/03/23 1:25:12 AM
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PoopPotato posted...
Are we able to clone our own organs yet? Legally and scientifically?
https://builtin.com/3d-printing/3d-printed-organs

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indica
11/03/23 1:43:32 AM
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GranAures posted...
As a person who is .1% pig
What part, or did you just eat a lot of pork?


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itachi15243
11/03/23 1:51:12 AM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
6 weeks with a non human heart is pretty incredible, exciting stuff

For real.

Gives me hope that we'll be able to atleast semi perfect this until we can just 3d print peoples hearts.

Also, if nothing else, maybe it could be possible to keep people alive with these until a heart is found for them? (Assuming they qualify and if we don't perfect it to the point where that isn't necessary.)

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MistyKnight
11/03/23 2:06:59 AM
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Rip Dr Ian Malcolm

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Rika_Furude
11/03/23 2:09:22 AM
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Hes a hero for contributing to science in this way.

Not sure if its better to pursue pig heart transplants or to pursue cloning of human hearts.

But any religious freaks against this and cloning for religious reasons need to fuck off
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Zikten
11/03/23 2:11:46 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Hes a hero for contributing to science in this way.

Not sure if its better to pursue pig heart transplants or to pursue cloning of human hearts.

But any religious freaks against this and cloning for religious reasons need to fuck off
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indica
11/03/23 2:24:16 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Hes a hero for contributing to science in this way.

Not sure if its better to pursue pig heart transplants or to pursue cloning of human hearts.

But any religious freaks against this and cloning for religious reasons need to fuck off
Cloning would probably be more ideal, especially from stem cells, as the pigs have to be genetically spliced with human DNA to work in the first place

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majin_nemesis
11/03/23 2:52:54 AM
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Rika_Furude posted...
Hes a hero for contributing to science in this way.

Not sure if its better to pursue pig heart transplants or to pursue cloning of human hearts.

But any religious freaks against this and cloning for religious reasons need to fuck off
not much of a hero when he was ineligible for a normal heart transplant, getting a pig heart was a last resort and i'm not sure if he wouldn't have lived longer if he never had the heart transplant
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Foppe
11/03/23 3:43:03 AM
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The thing with people that need a transplanted heart is that it can go really fast.
My father went from being able to drive to stores and do grocery shopping to lying in a bed hooked up to an oxygen machine 24/7 and barely being able to go to the bathroom by himself in less than a month.
Im sure he had less than a week left alive when he got the call that they got a heart.

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Luteo
11/03/23 4:14:03 AM
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There's no need to discuss amazing stem cell technology because in America Republicans will always block it and never approve it, even though it would save many of their lives.

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Cocytus
11/03/23 9:40:46 AM
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Zikten posted...
Would it have been possible to keep giving him fresh pig hearts and keep him alive?
I think that would probably be impractical.

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texanfan27
11/03/23 9:44:04 AM
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its progress, and considering these are people who are normally off the transplant list due to pre-existing conditions its helpful.

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Karovorak
11/03/23 9:47:06 AM
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It's sad that he died after only 6 weeks, but this is still a huge medical feat for everyone involved.

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bigtiggie23
11/03/23 10:04:53 AM
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Six more weeks with your loved ones is six more weeks with your loved ones. Some people just ask for a little bit more time.

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Cocytus
11/03/23 10:07:26 AM
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Parts: The Clonus Horror

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Sexypwnstar
11/03/23 11:07:23 AM
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Cloning is/was dead thanks to Bush

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Kradek
11/04/23 1:01:17 AM
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0Renegade posted...
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im fully aware of the cops = pigs joke but still dumb to joke about a dudes life here

And once again, only 3/16 posts had even commented on it. It was certainly not the "topic" when not even 1/4th of the posts are about something.

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littlebro07
11/04/23 1:06:27 AM
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bigtiggie23 posted...
Six more weeks with your loved ones is six more weeks with your loved ones. Some people just ask for a little bit more time.

this

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Dark_Arbron
11/04/23 1:10:58 AM
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On one hand this would be incredibly controversial. On the other we need to codify this sort of thing into law before we develop the technology rather than after. We made that mistake with AI.

I mean, hypothetically. Climate change is going to destroy us before we find out for real.

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tripleh213
11/04/23 1:11:28 AM
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bigtiggie23 posted...
Six more weeks with your loved ones is six more weeks with your loved ones. Some people just ask for a little bit more time.
Yup

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0Renegade
11/04/23 1:12:01 AM
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Kradek posted...
And once again, only 3/16 posts had even commented on it. It was certainly not the "topic" when not even 1/4th of the posts are about something.
never said it was the topic either, but maybe i shoulda replied directly to the poster who made the joke in the first place.

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Kradek
11/04/23 1:15:03 AM
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0Renegade posted...
never said it was the topic either, but maybe i shoulda replied directly to the poster who made the joke in the first place.

0Renegade posted...
leave it to ce to turn this conversation into a cop topic

You literally said CE turned the conversation into a cop topic. One person made an anti-cop joke that rubbed you the wrong way and you made a knee-jerk response.

It's cool, it happens to all of us.


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