Current Events > Israel/Palestine War: Live Thread 3 (Invasion for real this time?)

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Two hostages have just been released. Live on CNN. Can't link a source yet

The spokesperson for Hamas-armed wing Abu Ubaida first announced the release after 20 trucks of humanitarian aid entered Gaza and amid reports that Qatar had secured the release of some 50 hostages with foreign passports. However, the women who were released do not hold dual citizenship.

Yup, that's just you.

And this is another reason why lots of people are desensitized to civilian deaths in Gaza, because Hamas is more at fault for their deaths than Israel at this point.

I think any decent person here can make out the demons from the humans.

Did they ever find out if that German woman is alive?

• Barack Obama issues a statement about the Israel/Palestine War: https://barackobama.medium.com/my-statement-on-israel-and-gaza-a6c397f09a30
• [Unconfirmed] IDF spokesman says that Hamas has barrels of fuel that they are keeping for themselves instead of providing them to the hospitals. https://twitter.com/jconricus/status/1716599389735604346

* Barack Obama issues a statement about the Israel/Palestine War: https://barackobama.medium.com/my-statement-on-israel-and-gaza-a6c397f09a30
* [Unconfirmed] IDF spokesman says that Hamas has barrels of fuel that they are keeping for themselves instead of providing them to the hospitals. https://twitter.com/jconricus/status/1716599389735604346

I liked what President Obama had to say. I agreed with basically all of it.

We really could use him right now.

IDF spokesman says that Hamas has barrels of fuel that they are keeping for themselves instead of providing them to the hospitals.

"If you want a better future for you and your children, do good and share verified and valuable information about hostages being held in your area. And the Israeli military promises you that it will invest maximum effort in providing security for you and your home, and you will receive a financial reward. We guarantee you complete confidentiality. The Israel Defense Forces."

IDF drops leaflets in Gaza asking for information about hostages, it says
From CNN's Lauren Kent, Kareem Khadder and Eyad Kourdi
The Israel Defense Forces said it dropped leaflets in Gaza on Tuesday, appealing to residents for any information about the hostages being held by Hamas.
"As part of the extensive efforts to free the hostages held by the Hamas terrorist organization in Gaza, the IDF today used multiple channels to communicate with the residents of Gaza and ask for information about the hostages, offering protection and compensation in return," said the Israeli Air Force in a social media post, which included an image of the leaflet.
According to a CNN translation, the leaflet which contains a number of misspellings of Arabic words said:

As we just reported, Israel has dropped leaflets in Gaza asking for information on the hostages being held by Hamas.

But the Reuters news agency found one person tearing up the appeal for help.

"We don't care, do whatever you [Israeli PM Netanyahu] want, all of us in Gaza are telling you, we are resisting, from the east to west," the man said, as the crowd around him clapped.

"If they want to bomb us, they might as well bomb us while were here, we will not leave," the man, Abu Ramadan, continued.

"We will not be displaced nor evacuated, we lost our homes and our lives.

"We are living in this unsafe place with no shelter, no food, no water, not even water that is suitable for animals, but thank God, we will stay, we will stay here until victory God willing."

"The Secretary invited participants to share their perspectives, listened to the ideas put forward, and pledged that the Department would remain in close contact with their organizations and broader communities," the statement from Miller said.

• 5,791 Palestinians dead. Of dead, 2,360 children (Al Jazeera, CBS, CNN). Explosive increase in death toll after 700 were killed in an intense bombing from Israel. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/10/24/more-than-700-killed-in-overnight-israeli-attacks-gaza-officials-say and https://www.cbs42.com/news/ap-top-headlines/ap-israel-increases-strikes-on-gaza-as-two-more-hostages-are-freed/ and https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news-10-24-23/index.html
• 1,400 Israelis dead. Toll unchanged.
• [Unconfirmed] "IDF eliminatesAbed Alrahman, Hamas leader behind the massacre in Kibbutz Be'eri. Over the past few hours, the IDF acted on precise ISA intelligence and killed a number of Hamas terrorist organization operatives, including:

1. Abed Alrahman - Deputy Commander of the Nuseirat Battalion, who took part in the Kibbutz Be'eri massacre
2. Khalil Muhajez - Deputy Commander of the Shati Battalion
3. Khalil Tatri - Deputy Commander of the Sheikh Radwan Battalion"

Biden's military team is cautioning Israel about urban warfare 'branches' (where warfare decisions will lead next & what of Israel after occupying) & 'sequels' (obviously regional backlash to come, weeks-months-years ahead).
The US is trying to underscore to Israel the importance of thinking 3 steps ahead.

Then Israel has to totally take control of the area to make sure they always will be able to watch for possible threats.

Biden's military team is cautioning Israel about urban warfare 'branches' (where warfare decisions will lead next & what of Israel after occupying) & 'sequels' (obviously regional backlash to come, weeks-months-years ahead).
The US is trying to underscore to Israel the importance of thinking 3 steps ahead.

They're a bit late with that. Israel has already created the next 5 generations of Hamas with this attack. Many of the 1,500+ women who were killed were mothers or grandmothers who left behind sons, grandsons, brothers, cousins, nephews, husbands and/or friends who may want revenge. Many of the 2,000+ men who were killed were fathers who left behind sons, grandsons, brothers, cousins, nephews, husbands (do they allow that in Palestine?) and/or friends who may want revenge. Many of the probably 2,500+ kids who were killed had brothers, cousins, and/or friends who may want revenge. But most importantly, those kids left behind mothers and fathers who may want revenge. One angry mother or sister can steer many generations to Hamas, for example.

Needless to say, Israel definitely just created a hatred unlike anything else they've ever created in Palestine this time.

Or they can stop being fascists.

Elaborate. Why do you think Israel is a fascist state?

I havent dug deeper into it, but at least two of the hostages have said that they were treated well. They ate the same food as the kidnappers, got medical supplies and could walk around.
And the first kidnapping victim interview some topic back said that the Israel forces blasted around, not caring that they could hit Israeli civilians.
Makes you wonder how many Israels that got killed by friendly fire.

What other kind of state cuts off essential supplies to 2 million people, the vast majority of whom are innocent?

What other kind of state cuts off essential supplies to 2 million people, the vast majority of whom are innocent?

Yeah, the Palestinians sure didn't hate Israel already. Oct. 7th never happened. The decades of indoctrinating their children that Jews are evil never happened.
Israel ruined a chance at friendship w/ these counterattacks and now will have to deal w/ terrorists for decades to come. Unlike before.

I havent dug deeper into it, but at least two of the hostages have said that they were treated well. They ate the same food as the kidnappers, got medical supplies and could walk around.

The one account I've read suggested they were mistreated very badly during the kidnapping, but treated well once actually detained.

This is mind-blowing to me lol. Never crossed my mind that they'd treat the hostages like that. I assumed they were tortured or dead

Elaborate. Why do you think Israel is a fascist state?

You can tell who is a jew here with a victim complex, it's never their fault.

What other kind of state cuts off essential supplies to 2 million people, the vast majority of whom are innocent?

What the fuck? Am I missing some context here or is this just some bigoted stereotype?

Egypt!

You can tell who is a jew here with a victim complex, it's never their fault.

So you're using fascist as a term for when a state does something bad?

Cutting off essential supplies is not something only fascists can do, you know? Throwing around the word fascist at anything you don't like undermines the word.

What do you mean by contaminating local resources?

I dont see how Israel have contaminated the water. Theyve made is hard for Gaza to have access to water. Completely get that. Where is that part on contamination though?

Also you post like a chat bot lol.