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ZaziGuado 09/15/23 12:53:03 PM #1:	With the hot new Rebirth trailer out, I find this question on my mind again. I haven't played either original or remake to completion. I would very much like to experience the Remake Trilogy(?), but with how they seem to have approached Remake I'm curious if understanding the divergences of the plot adds to the experience at all. Does not having the nostalgia of the original change how one appreciates both original and remake? Obviously we can't say definitively for Rebirth yet, but I bet that trailer made some people Leo point at the TV. --- snowpork azuarc is OP. <cite>ZaziGuado posted [p:976086904] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>With the hot new Rebirth trailer out, I find this question on my mind again. I haven't played either original or remake to completion. I would very much like to experience the Remake Trilogy(?), but with how they seem to have approached Remake I'm curious if understanding the divergences of the plot adds to the experience at all. Does not having the nostalgia of the original change how one appreciates both original and remake? Obviously we can't say definitively for Rebirth yet, but I bet that trailer made some people Leo point at the TV. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaveEstelle 09/15/23 12:54:37 PM #2:	Playing the OG FF7 is highly advisable prior to Remake. Some things just can't land otherwise. There's stuff in there that is just... supposed to be taken as a given. It's a very odd decision, but hey, Nomura and Kitase are wildin'. But yeah. I would not say it's good to play the new ones without the original. Doable? Sure. Not ideal. --- Specialist Editor, TheGamer News & Reviews, RPG Site and Nova Crystallis <cite>SaveEstelle posted [p:976086931] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Playing the OG FF7 is highly advisable prior to Remake. Some things just can't land otherwise. There's stuff in there that is just... supposed to be taken as a given.It's a very odd decision, but hey, Nomura and Kitase are wildin'. But yeah. I would not say it's good to play the new ones without the original. Doable? Sure. Not ideal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scarletspeed7 09/15/23 12:54:44 PM #3:	The divergence of the plot IS a plot point, so playing the original gives a full perspective. Remake is, in its way, a sequel rather than a simple remake. --- "It is too easy being monsters. Let us try to be human." ~Victor Frankenstein, Penny Dreadful <cite>scarletspeed7 posted [p:976086934] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>The divergence of the plot IS a plot point, so playing the original gives a full perspective. Remake is, in its way, a sequel rather than a simple remake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFDragon 09/15/23 12:55:09 PM #4:	It's very hard to answer this but to try, yes, there is a major enhancement to the remake if you've played the original. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus <cite>FFDragon posted [p:976086938] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>It's very hard to answer this but to try, yes, there is a major enhancement to the remake if you've played the original. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KommunistKoala 09/15/23 12:55:51 PM #5:	you also must watch advent children three times and play dirge of cerberus --- does anyone even read this <cite>KommunistKoala posted [p:976086955] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>you also must watch advent children three times and play dirge of cerberus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou_Shake 09/15/23 12:56:00 PM #6:	It adds enormously to it, yes. I'd honestly say it's chiefly written and designed with the expectation that you've played the original as a starting point. --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! <cite>Xiahou_Shake posted [p:976086958] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>It adds enormously to it, yes. I'd honestly say it's chiefly written and designed with the expectation that you've played the original as a starting point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaveEstelle 09/15/23 12:56:05 PM #7:	Yeah. Because games need to make money, Square will market Remake as a great entry point until the chocobos come home - they're taking strides already to insist Rebirth's not a bad drop-in point, either, and lol. In practice, however... --- Specialist Editor, TheGamer News & Reviews, RPG Site and Nova Crystallis <cite>SaveEstelle posted [p:976086959] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Yeah. Because games need to make money, Square will market Remake as a great entry point until the chocobos come home - they're taking strides already to insist Rebirth's not a bad drop-in point, either, and lol.In practice, however... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZaziGuado 09/15/23 12:57:50 PM #8:	SaveEstelle posted... Yeah. Because games need to make money, Square will market Remake as a great entry point until the chocobos come home - they're taking strides already to insist Rebirth's not a bad drop-in point, either, and lol. In practice, however... They are marketing Rebirth as a standalone game too! So odd. --- snowpork azuarc is OP. <cite>ZaziGuado posted [p:976086995] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>SaveEstelle posted... </cite><quote>Yeah. Because games need to make money, Square will market Remake as a great entry point until the chocobos come home - they're taking strides already to insist Rebirth's not a bad drop-in point, either, and lol.In practice, however...</quote>They are marketing Rebirth as a standalone game too! So odd. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 09/15/23 12:58:42 PM #9:	Just gonna be the devil's advocate and say I didn't like FF7 and stopped after disc 1 and still loved R and had absolutely no problems playing it. But I'm clearly not in the norm here. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:976087023] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Just gonna be the devil's advocate and say I didn't like FF7 and stopped after disc 1 and still loved R and had absolutely no problems playing it. But I'm clearly not in the norm here. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaveEstelle 09/15/23 1:00:34 PM #10:	ZaziGuado posted... They are marketing Rebirth as a standalone game too! So odd. At least they have the good grace to include a recap of Remake with copies of Rebirth, apparently. I think that's what I read. I wasn't on news staff last night, and I have a Starfield-sized headache right now, so I'm going to be a bad person and not look it up to verify. But yeah, everything's gotta be a great!!! entry point. Sales attrition's the real fear and all. Sometimes, it makes sense. The Witcher 3 is the jumping-on point for a lot of folks, and it tends to work just fine. Sometimes, it's ridiculous. EA kept saying Mass Effect 3 was the best time to get into the trilogy... --- Specialist Editor, TheGamer News & Reviews, RPG Site and Nova Crystallis <cite>SaveEstelle posted [p:976087080] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>ZaziGuado posted...</cite><quote>They are marketing Rebirth as a standalone game too! So odd.</quote>At least they have the good grace to include a recap of Remake with copies of Rebirth, apparently. I think that's what I read. I wasn't on news staff last night, and I have a Starfield-sized headache right now, so I'm going to be a bad person and not look it up to verify.But yeah, everything's gotta be a great!!! entry point. Sales attrition's the real fear and all. Sometimes, it makes sense. The Witcher 3 is the jumping-on point for a lot of folks, and it tends to work just fine. Sometimes, it's ridiculous. EA kept saying Mass Effect 3 was the best time to get into the trilogy... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackMageJawa 09/15/23 1:07:03 PM #11:	KommunistKoala posted... and play dirge of cerberus Is this serious? Because I do own DoC but never got round to playing it. I need a nudge, and it being somehow alluded to in the R series would do it. --- The shattered stage is set and there's a role you must fulfil <cite>BlackMageJawa posted [p:976087214] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>KommunistKoala posted...</cite><quote>and play dirge of cerberus</quote>Is this serious? Because I do own DoC but never got round to playing it. I need a nudge, and it being somehow alluded to in the R series would do it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steiner 09/15/23 1:11:02 PM #12:	if you do not find the idea of playing the original offputting it certainly enhances the remake experience --- Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending To write it down for all the world to see <cite>Steiner posted [p:976087296] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>if you do not find the idea of playing the original offputting it certainly enhances the remake experience </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 09/15/23 1:12:08 PM #13:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Just gonna be the devil's advocate and say I didn't like FF7 and stopped after disc 1 and still loved R and had absolutely no problems playing it. But I'm clearly not in the norm here. Doesn't matter if you didn't like it, your experience and likely general knowledge probably already benefited you for the remake. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:976087318] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite><quote>Just gonna be the devil's advocate and say I didn't like FF7 and stopped after disc 1 and still loved R and had absolutely no problems playing it.But I'm clearly not in the norm here.</quote>Doesn't matter if you didn't like it, your experience and likely general knowledge probably already benefited you for the remake. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 09/15/23 1:15:55 PM #14:	KommunistKoala posted... you also must watch advent children three times and play dirge of cerberus Not interested --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:976087388] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>KommunistKoala posted... </cite><quote>you also must watch advent children three times and play dirge of cerberus</quote>Not interested </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KommunistKoala 09/15/23 1:27:33 PM #15:	BlackMageJawa posted... Is this serious? no --- does anyone even read this <cite>KommunistKoala posted [p:976087653] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>BlackMageJawa posted... </cite><quote>Is this serious?</quote>no </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steiner 09/15/23 1:30:33 PM #16:	KommunistKoala posted... you also must watch advent children three times BlackMageJawa posted... Is this serious? --- Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending To write it down for all the world to see <cite>Steiner posted [p:976087706] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>KommunistKoala posted... </cite><quote>you also must watch advent children three times</quote>BlackMageJawa posted... </cite><quote>Is this serious? </quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScareChan 09/15/23 1:32:12 PM #17:	The story and style of play of the Remake is so much different from the original that you won't be doing the same stuff twice by playing both and looking at the original as a source material is going to give you a lot more clarity in Remake --- Fastbreak Intensifies PSN TehScurr Switch friend code SW-5264-0547-1806 <cite>ScareChan posted [p:976087739] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>The story and style of play of the Remake is so much different from the original that you won't be doing the same stuff twice by playing both and looking at the original as a source material is going to give you a lot more clarity in Remake </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ScareChan 09/15/23 1:33:20 PM #18:	Steiner posted... KommunistKoala posted... you also must watch advent children three times BlackMageJawa posted... Is this serious? I mean once would probably be helpful. Not the end all be all though --- Fastbreak Intensifies PSN TehScurr Switch friend code SW-5264-0547-1806 <cite>ScareChan posted [p:976087758] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Steiner posted... </cite><quote>KommunistKoala posted...you also must watch advent children three timesBlackMageJawa posted...Is this serious?</quote>I meanonce would probably be helpful. Not the end all be all though </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HaRRicH 09/15/23 1:34:38 PM #19:	Probably ought to try playing it twenty years before playing the remakes. Fifteen if you're in a hurry. --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:976087784] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Probably ought to try playing it twenty years before playing the remakes.Fifteen if you're in a hurry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 09/15/23 2:20:03 PM #20:	People who didn't play the original like the remake more. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:976088836] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>People who didn't play the original like the remake more. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/15/23 3:03:54 PM #21:	I couldn't play through 7, stopped at wall market, but I know the story pretty well. I also played through all of Crisis Core and I feel like that crystallized 7's story pretty well and helped a lot with 7R. I don't think you need to play the original but definitely read a summary of the story. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:976089758] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>I couldn't play through 7, stopped at wall market, but I know the story pretty well. I also played through all of Crisis Core and I feel like that crystallized 7's story pretty well and helped a lot with 7R.I don't think you need to play the original but definitely read a summary of the story. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeatoAnAccount 09/15/23 3:06:31 PM #22:	Is this because of that one thing that happens at the end of disc one or does it go deeper than that? --- Neato, an account <cite>NeatoAnAccount posted [p:976089804] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Is this because of that one thing that happens at the end of disc one or does it go deeper than that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steiner 09/15/23 3:11:02 PM #23:	NeatoAnAccount posted... Is this because of that one thing that happens at the end of disc one or does it go deeper than that? remake doesn't get close to the end of disc one so it's not that --- Born to bear and bring to all the details of our ending To write it down for all the world to see <cite>Steiner posted [p:976089904] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>NeatoAnAccount posted... </cite><quote>Is this because of that one thing that happens at the end of disc one or does it go deeper than that?</quote>remake doesn't get close to the end of disc one so it's not that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 09/15/23 3:16:47 PM #24:	Just read that Rebirth doesnt have save import from Remake, so theyre just separate things. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:976090022] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Just read that Rebirth doesnt have save import from Remake, so theyre just separate things. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
colliding 09/15/23 4:14:34 PM #25:	I definitely think it can be enjoyed on its own, but players who enjoyed the original will get something else entirely out of it. --- while you slept, the world changed <cite>colliding posted [p:976091232] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>I definitely think it can be enjoyed on its own, but players who enjoyed the original will get something else entirely out of it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/15/23 4:47:43 PM #26:	I know people who haven't played the original and love Remake. It's fine. I would say that you will definitely get more having played the original, or at least knowing a summary. There are plenty of winks and nods to the original. You also don't need "nostalgia" really because I was honestly not as big into the original game as Remake or other FFs! But also, more cynically, this is a blockbuster AAA video game and it's also designed to accomadate new players to the FF7 world to sell more copies to people, while also selling them on the idea that they should buy and play the other games. Whatever you choose, you're part of the intended audience here. Because also there's tons of nods to other stuff I haven't played like Dirge of Cerberus and the fuckin like...Turks mobile phone game, and at some point you gotta not care about knowing every detail and just let the thing stand on its own. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:976091901] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>I know people who haven't played the original and love Remake. It's fine.I would say that you will definitely get more having played the original, or at least knowing a summary. There are plenty of winks and nods to the original. You also don't need "nostalgia" really because I was honestly not as big into the original game as Remake or other FFs! But also, more cynically, this is a blockbuster AAA video game and it's also designed to accomadate new players to the FF7 world to sell more copies to people, while also selling them on the idea that they should buy and play the other games. Whatever you choose, you're part of the intended audience here.Because also there's tons of nods to other stuff I haven't played like Dirge of Cerberus and the fuckin like...Turks mobile phone game, and at some point you gotta not care about knowing every detail and just let the thing stand on its own. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TomNook7 09/15/23 4:51:43 PM #27:	Just play the original and skip the spinoff/remake crap Except crisis core. That ones fine --- I'm the original TomNook7 from the old days. The other guy is just TomNook. Know your TomNooks. <cite>TomNook7 posted [p:976091974] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Just play the original and skip the spinoff/remake crapExcept crisis core. That ones fine </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_Rocks 09/15/23 5:49:03 PM #28:	Definitely enhanced imo --- Not to be confused with XIII_Minerals. <cite>XIII_Rocks posted [p:976093147] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Definitely enhanced imo </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZaziGuado 09/15/23 9:26:45 PM #29:	I'll probably find an extensive summary somewhere of the FF7 universe because i don't think I'll have the time for or ability to stick with both FF7 and Remake. Just how much content did they push out that took place in FF7 land? --- snowpork azuarc is OP. <cite>ZaziGuado posted [p:976097135] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>I'll probably find an extensive summary somewhere of the FF7 universe because i don't think I'll have the time for or ability to stick with both FF7 and Remake. Just how much content did they push out that took place in FF7 land? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strife2 09/15/23 9:32:18 PM #30:	I think it does, because if I didn't have fondness for the characters, music, or setting, the gameplay would probably drive me up the wall. It's not, "bad," just annoying with the AI smarts of a Magikarp. Boss fights can also be laborious affairs if you don't use the exact strategy they designed. ~~Hell House and Rufus. Fucking hell. Poison was my friend to dick those fights.~~ I get what FF is becoming, but that doesn't mean I like it. Everything other than the combat was fun though, because the FF7 coat of paint was perfect. --- "Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning" Copernicus - Candlemass <cite>Strife2 posted [p:976097260] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>I think it does, because if I didn't have fondness for the characters, music, or setting, the gameplay would probably drive me up the wall. It's not, "bad," just annoying with the AI smarts of a Magikarp. Boss fights can also be laborious affairs if you don't use the exact strategy they designed.Hell House and Rufus. Fucking hell. Poison was my friend to dick those fights.I get what FF is becoming, but that doesn't mean I like it. Everything other than the combat was fun though, because the FF7 coat of paint was perfect. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Waluigi1 09/15/23 10:40:59 PM #31:	The combat was one of the best part what --- PSN, and GT: Waluigi1 Switch FC: SW-6848-3841-9099 <cite>Waluigi1 posted [p:976098639] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>The combat was one of the best part what </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 09/15/23 10:54:26 PM #32:	Combat in 7R was great in theory. AI was very dumb, though. Not enough that it wasn't still excellent, but I would have preferred it picked a lane instead of trying to skirt the middle. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:976098891] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Combat in 7R was great in theory. AI was very dumb, though. Not enough that it wasn't still excellent, but I would have preferred it picked a lane instead of trying to skirt the middle. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 09/15/23 11:07:25 PM #33:	I can see being annoyed with having to move everyone out of AOEs but it's less annoying when you realize that it isn't AI-controlled party members at all and they're supposed to be doing the minimum of combat without you. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:976099131] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>I can see being annoyed with having to move everyone out of AOEs but it's less annoying when you realize that it isn't AI-controlled party members at all and they're supposed to be doing the minimum of combat without you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/15/23 11:13:01 PM #34:	I would say by the end of this trilogy you'll need (well, "need" is a strong word, but you'll be missing out on stuff if you haven't) a passing familiarity with the entire Compilation of Final Fantasy VII. There's a reason why they remastered Crisis Core between Remake and Rebirth, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Dirge of Cerberus remaster between Rebirth and the third game. And who knows, maybe a Remaster of Advent Children (watch the Complete edition, not the original)! --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:976099218] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>I would say by the end of this trilogy you'll need (well, "need" is a strong word, but you'll be missing out on stuff if you haven't) a passing familiarity with the entire Compilation of Final Fantasy VII. There's a reason why they remastered Crisis Core between Remake and Rebirth, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Dirge of Cerberus remaster between Rebirth and the third game.And who knows, maybe a Remaster of Advent Children (watch the Complete edition, not the original)! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
redrocket 09/15/23 11:13:03 PM #35:	paperwarior posted... I can see being annoyed with having to move everyone out of AOEs Are you telling me your party members will literally stand in the fire without you holding their hands lol --- It's like paying for bubble wrap. -transience on Final Fantasy: All the Bravest <cite>redrocket posted [p:976099221] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>paperwarior posted... </cite><quote>I can see being annoyed with having to move everyone out of AOEs </quote>Are you telling me your party members will literally stand in the fire without you holding their hands lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 09/15/23 11:13:54 PM #36:	Naw I get that, I'm saying that's the wrong decision though. Either the game should have made it so the AI party members were smarter and could actually stand on their own, or they should have kept them as dumb and made them not even matter like XVI. I know some people don't like how the party members in XVI are mostly for show, but at least you don't have to babysit their idiot brains. If you're going to have an Action RPG like this where you control one character at a time the combat shouldn't be based around you having to constantly swap between them. Ironically, as much as I hate XII, this could have mostly been solved by adding gambits to the game. Still wouldn't help with them getting stuck in AOEs, though. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:976099235] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Naw I get that, I'm saying that's the wrong decision though. Either the game should have made it so the AI party members were smarter and could actually stand on their own, or they should have kept them as dumb and made them not even matter like XVI. I know some people don't like how the party members in XVI are mostly for show, but at least you don't have to babysit their idiot brains. If you're going to have an Action RPG like this where you control one character at a time the combat shouldn't be based around you having to constantly swap between them. Ironically, as much as I hate XII, this could have mostly been solved by adding gambits to the game. Still wouldn't help with them getting stuck in AOEs, though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 09/15/23 11:17:05 PM #37:	UshiromiyaEva posted... or they should have kept them as dumb and made them not even matter like XVI. I mean this really only works if there's just one playable character I like being able to switch between characters in FFVIIR's combat, so I'd rather they kept that feature for the other games, too. --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:976099292] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite><quote>or they should have kept them as dumb and made them not even matter like XVI.</quote>I mean this really only works if there's just one playable characterI like being able to switch between characters in FFVIIR's combat, so I'd rather they kept that feature for the other games, too. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 09/15/23 11:17:18 PM #38:	FF7 is gaming ambrosia --- I find it kinda bussin, I find it kinda cap That the dreams in which I'm dying are the ones that kinda slap <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:976099297] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>FF7 is gaming ambrosia </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero 09/15/23 11:32:19 PM #39:	The opposite, actually, because you'll constantly be thinking about how the original was so much better --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame <cite>MZero posted [p:976099534] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>The opposite, actually, because you'll constantly be thinking about how the original was so much better </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 09/15/23 11:32:30 PM #40:	7R is about 80% lead character, 20% AI characters, but that's still enough for the AI to matter. I can imagine the bad AI becomes a big deal in harder fights. I never took those on because I could tell they would become too frustrating. But for most of the game, ignoring the AI is fine. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:976099536] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>7R is about 80% lead character, 20% AI characters, but that's still enough for the AI to matter. I can imagine the bad AI becomes a big deal in harder fights. I never took those on because I could tell they would become too frustrating. But for most of the game, ignoring the AI is fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 09/15/23 11:33:20 PM #41:	redrocket posted... Are you telling me your party members will literally stand in the fire without you holding their hands lol It's more like an occasional boss with a 15-second windup for a big attack where you have to do that. It's designed with at least that much sanity. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:976099546] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>redrocket posted... </cite><quote>Are you telling me your party members will literally stand in the fire without you holding their hands lol</quote>It's more like an occasional boss with a 15-second windup for a big attack where you have to do that. It's designed with at least that much sanity. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 09/15/23 11:36:24 PM #42:	It wasn't usually that big a deal even on Hard mode, it was actually worse on some normal encounters than most bosses. But sometimes it was just....frustrating. The Arsenal right near the end is probably the most egregious example. It was the worst boss fight in the game even on lower difficulties, and by the time I was beating it on the highest I realised it represented all the issues I had. Not fun in the sleightest. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:976099588] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>It wasn't usually that big a deal even on Hard mode, it was actually worse on some normal encounters than most bosses. But sometimes it was just....frustrating. The Arsenal right near the end is probably the most egregious example. It was the worst boss fight in the game even on lower difficulties, and by the time I was beating it on the highest I realised it represented all the issues I had. Not fun in the sleightest. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou_Shake 09/15/23 11:57:02 PM #43:	UshiromiyaEva posted... Either the game should have made it so the AI party members were smarter and could actually stand on their own, or they should have kept them as dumb and made them not even matter like XVI. Nah the way it is is actually perfect IMO. FF7R is maybe the most compelling case for an actual evolution for turn based gameplay with its hybrid approach. People get stuck though and don't realize this actually is still a turn based game and that you're supposed to be constantly swapping characters to take your "turns." --- Let the voice of love take you higher, With this gathering power, go beyond even time! <cite>Xiahou_Shake posted [p:976099890] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>UshiromiyaEva posted... </cite><quote>Either the game should have made it so the AI party members were smarter and could actually stand on their own, or they should have kept them as dumb and made them not even matter like XVI.</quote>Nah the way it is is actually perfect IMO. FF7R is maybe the most compelling case for an actual evolution for turn based gameplay with its hybrid approach. People get stuck though and don't realize this actually is still a turn based game and that you're supposed to be constantly swapping characters to take your "turns." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 09/16/23 9:45:52 AM #44:	Yeah having to swap characters to micromanage them, charge up their attacks, and set up combos is what makes the combat dynamic and fun. I get finding it annoying but that makes the whole thing go, having "good" partner AI would make the game dull. My only real complaint is that Barret and Aerith's movesets aren't quite as polished as Cloud and Tifa's (and in Interlude, Yuffie's which is SO good). Aerith at least has very strong payoffs that make up for it, but Barret got done so dirty. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:976104949] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Yeah having to swap characters to micromanage them, charge up their attacks, and set up combos is what makes the combat dynamic and fun. I get finding it annoying but that makes the whole thing go, having "good" partner AI would make the game dull. My only real complaint is that Barret and Aerith's movesets aren't quite as polished as Cloud and Tifa's (and in Interlude, Yuffie's which is SO good). Aerith at least has very strong payoffs that make up for it, but Barret got done so dirty. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 09/16/23 9:51:39 AM #45:	I don't mind having to switch between them to use their abilities as much, I just want them to be able to properly move their asses. --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:976105010] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>I don't mind having to switch between them to use their abilities as much, I just want them to be able to properly move their asses. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHINE_GET_64 09/16/23 10:08:15 AM #46:	ZaziGuado posted... They are marketing Rebirth as a standalone game too! So odd. It's like when NISA took over the trails series and they were like you can jump in with cold steel 3 it's fine when absolutely not that's basically The Avengers infinity war of the series --- https://imgtc.com/i/iJnhdkc.gif https://imgtc.com/i/j45EVGx.png <cite>SHINE_GET_64 posted [p:976105228] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>ZaziGuado posted... </cite><quote>They are marketing Rebirth as a standalone game too! So odd.</quote>It's like when NISA took over the trails series and they were like you can jump in with cold steel 3 it's fine when absolutely not that's basically The Avengers infinity war of the series </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UshiromiyaEva 09/16/23 10:09:37 AM #47:	Nothing will ever be worse than "Mass Effect 3 is a great jumping in point". --- https://twitter.com/OocWTC/status/1348011667976699904?s=19 <cite>UshiromiyaEva posted [p:976105248] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Nothing will ever be worse than "Mass Effect 3 is a great jumping in point". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 09/16/23 10:38:17 AM #48:	Never forget releasing Mass Effect 3 on Wii U with no way to play the other two. --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:976105620] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Never forget releasing Mass Effect 3 on Wii U with no way to play the other two. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZaziGuado 09/16/23 6:47:52 PM #49:	Is the FF7 supplemental material (although I guess at this point it's looking pretty key to the plot?) actually good? Do people have a fondness for Crisis Core, Advent Children, and Dirge of Cerberus? Are the games also turn-based or are they action RPGs? I know nothing about them aside from Crisis Core has Zack Fair and the buster sword, Advent Children is some Cloud and Sephiroth origin story I think, and Dirge of Cerberus is Vincent. --- snowpork azuarc is OP. <cite>ZaziGuado posted [p:976114227] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Is the FF7 supplemental material (although I guess at this point it's looking pretty key to the plot?) actually good? Do people have a fondness for Crisis Core, Advent Children, and Dirge of Cerberus? Are the games also turn-based or are they action RPGs? I know nothing about them aside from Crisis Core has Zack Fair and the buster sword, Advent Children is some Cloud and Sephiroth origin story I think, and Dirge of Cerberus is Vincent. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 09/16/23 6:49:22 PM #50:	Everyone loves all of that besides Dirge of Cerberus --- I find it kinda bussin, I find it kinda cap That the dreams in which I'm dying are the ones that kinda slap <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:976114241] in Does playi... [t:80566753]...</cite> <quote>Everyone loves all of that besides Dirge of Cerberus </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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