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Nukazie
09/12/23 3:06:18 AM
#151:


p4 > p5 > p3

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party_animal07
09/12/23 3:19:16 AM
#152:


It's all personal preference but I definitely agree. The story, location, atmosphere,themes, and cast are all better in P4. I started replaying p5 this year, and the main cast is sorta meh.

I need to replay P4, but I think the pacing is better as well.Having 10 minutes of dialogue, only to be sent home and told I should rest and thrown into more dialogue the next day gets old fast.

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ssb_yunglink2
09/12/23 9:20:15 AM
#153:


party_animal07 posted...
It's all personal preference but I definitely agree. The story, location, atmosphere,themes, and cast are all better in P4. I started replaying p5 this year, and the main cast is sorta meh.

I need to replay P4, but I think the pacing is better as well.Having 10 minutes of dialogue, only to be sent home and told I should rest and thrown into more dialogue the next day gets old fast.
Its not even really the amount of dialogue in 5 for me, its that a good chunk of it is just reminding you of stuff that you already know. The text conversations are just the characters repeating the mission to each other constantly lol
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_____Cait
09/12/23 9:24:41 AM
#154:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Its not even really the amount of dialogue in 5 for me, its that a good chunk of it is just reminding you of stuff that you already know. The text conversations are just the characters repeating the mission to each other constantly lol

It kind of reminds me of modern Pokemon, where they repeat the same things over and over .

May e they assume players will quit the game and need a reminder months later of what they need to do?

Doesnt explain how annoying Morgana is with herhey you should go to bed stuff.

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ssb_yunglink2
09/12/23 10:13:25 AM
#155:


_____Cait posted...
It kind of reminds me of modern Pokemon, where they repeat the same things over and over .

May e they assume players will quit the game and need a reminder months later of what they need to do?

Doesnt explain how annoying Morgana is with herhey you should go to bed stuff.
Morgana telling you to go to bed doesnt annoy me that much tbh. If he wasnt there telling you to sleep the game would just tell you instead like in 4.

But the constant repeating of missions and goals idek what the purpose is. Even if you take months off the game still has many ways of telling you whats going on, such as meeting with the team and discussing the situation.
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Darklit_Minuet
09/12/23 12:47:24 PM
#156:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Teddie and Morgana have roughly the same arc, with wanting to be accepted as more than just some weird creature things and getting angsty about it, but morganas angst moment is probably the worst stretch of the entire game.
That depends on your definition of "more"

Morgana's entire arc fucking baffles me. Imagine being a cat but insisting that you're an inferior species
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Ricemills
09/12/23 1:47:45 PM
#157:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Imagine being a cat but insisting that you're an inferior species

Pretty normal attitude from a cat, i say.

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Kuuko
09/12/23 2:15:37 PM
#158:


ssb_yunglink2 posted...
Morgana telling you to go to bed doesnt annoy me that much tbh. If he wasnt there telling you to sleep the game would just tell you instead like in 4.

But the constant repeating of missions and goals idek what the purpose is. Even if you take months off the game still has many ways of telling you whats going on, such as meeting with the team and discussing the situation.
I think the "you're tired. go to sleep" meme with Morgana is just the most egregious example of something Morgana's doing the entire game. And it's also just sort of funny because it's like, why do you know more about me being tired than I do. But Morgana is nonstop expositing everything to you all of the time. He's basically used as the MC's inner voice since the MC barely has one, but it's excessive and unnecessary most of the time.

I've been playing more P5 Strikers recently so this example came to mind. In P3 you can use a random crane game machine around town and it's more like:
  1. "You see a crane game. Use it? (Yes/No)"
  2. "Yes"
  3. "You won a Jack Frost doll from the machine"
  4. "Item obtained: Jack Frost doll"


In P5 Strikers there's a capsule machine you can use that can give you a useful item. I was thinking of trying to get a bunch, but the interaction is like:
  1. "You see a capsule machine"
  2. Morgana: "Hey this looks interesting. Maybe we can get something good"
  3. Morgana: "Do you want to give it a try? (Yes/No)"
  4. "Yes"
  5. "You spent 500 yen and played the game."
  6. *screen momentarily fades to black for some reason*
  7. "Something came out"
  8. Morgana: "Aw man that's a pretty lame prize. Don't feel too bad about it"
  9. "You're disappointed in the prize"
  10. "Item obtained: useless junk thing"


I kind of made that up but that's the gist of how P5 interactions go. And it's like that nonstop, with Morgana voicing every single thing you do and look at, even after the text bubbles already just said the same thing. When I first started P5 I thought he was an improvement over Teddie, whose contributions to most of the group dialogue is usually shallow and one-note. But by the end I'd rather have Teddie. At least he's out of sight most of time.

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Doe
09/12/23 2:17:28 PM
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You guys just haven't developed the taste for catboys. Morgana is a reason P5 is GOATed

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ssb_yunglink2
09/12/23 2:35:05 PM
#160:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
That depends on your definition of "more"

Morgana's entire arc fucking baffles me. Imagine being a cat but insisting that you're an inferior species
The climax of morganas arc is so fucking bad. When you first meet him he strikes a deal with you because his dumbass got locked in a cage in the first palace. But after 4 palaces that absolutely required teamwork, Morgana suddenly believes that he can storm Okumuras much more dangerous palace with the help of one rando who can barely use her persona??

Dude couldve easily gotten both of them killed just because he was angsty

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