Poll of the Day > "Sorry, we don't sell tickets to adults not accompanying a child."

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Dikitain posted...

It is an interesting jump in logic to go from "have some self reflection" to "you are a child predator". You might want to consider the self reflection that I am talking about if you immediately think that is what I was saying.

How about you take your own advice you hypocrite? You were just making the same exact assumptions about hypothetical strangers on every post you've made.

AltOmega2 posted...

Are zoos even open at night? The one closest to where I live closes at like 5 or something, then all the zookeepers go eat Chinese food

Not usually unless it's a special event for groups, field trips, and special members.

Lil_Bit83 posted...

Because people like to have fun. Not every person has cruel creepy intentions just because you're paranoid and judgy.

Fair enough, but also have enough self awareness to understand that most people are going to be paranoid and judgy. We are dispositioned as sentient beings to be defensive around situations which are unfamiliar to us. And I say "sentient beings" because all animals in nature exhibit this behavior. It isn't somehow "enlightened" not to.

A single man in a place where mostly kids are present without watching a kid of their own is going to trigger that kind of response.

Lil_Bit83 posted...

How about you take your own advice you hypocrite? You were just making the same exact assumptions about hypothetical strangers on every post you've made.

What assumptions? Again, if you find no problem with it, fine. But you have to understand what it looks like to other people and how their perception is going to influence policies like was mentioned in this topic.

Lil_Bit83 posted...

It's almost as if you don't understand what a Public Park is.

It's almost like you didn't read the part where he explains that it's a large park with plenty of places to sit, but this creep decided to sit by the playground

Funny that people are willing to defend creepy behavior from absolute strangers in anecdotal situations and feel like it's a personal affront to them. Wonder why?

SwollenColon posted...

Funny that people are willing to defend creepy behavior from absolute strangers in anecdotal situations and feel like it's a personal affront to them. Wonder why?

Politics

Honestly, zoos are really mostly for kids. A single dude going there by himself is weird but to each their own

OhhhJa posted...

Honestly, zoos are really mostly for kids. A single dude going there by himself is weird but to each their own

What animal exhibit would be weirdest for a single guy to just stand in front of, fixated?

SwollenColon posted...

Funny that people are willing to defend creepy behavior from absolute strangers in anecdotal situations and feel like it's a personal affront to them. Wonder why?

Because they're tired of Chris Hansen constantly showing up to ruin their fun, so they sympathize with the hypothetical creeper.

AltOmega2 posted...

What animal exhibit would be weirdest for a single guy to just stand in front of, fixated?

Masturbating gorillas.

i mean if the park is empty who really gives a shit where the dude sits. obviously it's different if he's sitting in the same spot while there's a bunch of kids around.
OhhhJa posted...

Honestly, zoos are really mostly for kids. A single dude going there by himself is weird but to each their own

this is absolute horseshit, if i wanna go look at some cheetahs i'm gonna go look at some cheetahs.

AltOmega2 posted...

What animal exhibit would be weirdest for a single guy to just stand in front of, fixated?

horny dolphins and their cornered handler

Pools and beaches are what really need regulated. They need to stop adults from using those without kids. That's where they do all their oogling.

Nade_Duck posted...

as a single man, i guess i get it but wish they would extend this crap to women as well.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Some one dropped a quote which appeared to come from the website which said adults not men.

I'm pretty sure it would have been illegal to only ban men. You can't discriminate people based on gender, but you can ban single adults regardless of gender from attending family events. Discrimination is legal unless it's based on gender, religion, ethnicity, or disability. This rule obviously doesn't apply in private, for example I can definitely discriminate against men and religious people when looking for a significant other, because I'm heterosexual and atheist.

Dikitain posted...

I just said that if you find enjoyment being around a bunch of random kids you have no connection to that you probably need to think about why that is.

I enjoy entertaining kids with magic tricks and practical jokes. They're easy to impress, so they make great audiences. Kids are fun because they're curious and full of energy. One of my favorite jobs is children animator. I love designing recreational games for children and playing with them. I've always worked well with children, and children tend to like me a lot. To them, I'm a mentor, a father figure, a protector, an entertainer, and a counselor. I would never abuse a child, that's just disgusting. The way that you're inferring that I'm a pedophile because I enjoy being around children is infuriating.

silvergokuZ posted...

Reminds me of about 12 years ago I being autistic wanted to read some graphic novels and a member of staff rushed to stop me entering the kids area (where they kept them) and basically interrogated me about why I wanted to go to kids area, what books did I want, how long would I be there for.

They didn't do this with any lone females walking in and out.

It's a common double standard that sadly makes it incredibly easy for female pedophiles to prey on children without getting caught. There are actually just as many female pedophiles as male ones. The only reason why most convicted pedophiles are male is because of that double standard. People are wrongly taught that all pedophiles are male, so it makes it easy for female pedophiles to stay undetected. And since most people wrongly believe that female pedophiles don't exist, their victims are significantly less likely to report them due to shame and/or fear that no one will believe them. And they're right: victims who report being raped by a woman are very often not taken seriously.

TomNook posted...

Pools and beaches are what really need regulated. They need to stop adults from using those without kids. That's where they do all their oogling.

No, that's why we have family hours and adult swim.

Accrovideogames posted...

No, that's why we have family hours and adult swim

Adults are not barred from non adult swim hours at pools and beaches. I'm saying that needs regulated to protect the childrens.

Nade_Duck posted...

as a single man, i guess i get it but wish they would extend this crap to women as well.

I was once stopped by a worker at a public park when I tried to use a water fountain to fill up my empty bottle. She said, "no adults without a child" as a woman jogged by us into the park.

I guess they tried that too many times because they knocked that off real quick before the lawsuits came.

KJ_StErOiDs posted...

Their establishment, their rules.

And considering it sounds like an event for kids, a sensible precaution.

EDIT: Just realized it said "adults," not specifically "men"

Either way, it's a dumb as shit policy.

Dikitain posted...

As a single man, I would feel kind of odd going to a place where it is nothing but kids if I wasn't accompanying any kids there. Anyone who is comfortable with it should probably think about WHY they are.

Because they don't have weird hang-ups? You should be asking yourself a lot of questions right now.

Dikitain posted...

I do too, but my zoo has a "happy hour" where adults can go to the zoo. It is actually a really great time to go because it is at night when most of the animals are actually the most active. They also serve alcohol during that time if you are into that kind of thing.

Which is some batshit insane stupid justification.

Some of you all have so much anger!

I'm a male that goes to the park alone from time to time. I smoke a joint and read comics, look at the clouds, etc. Other times I'm with my fiance, doing similar things.
I also like the zoo, even considered membership cause i was going so much at some point. Once again, I'd smoke a joint, but the zoo is a great walk and you can stare at animals stoned.
some things "aimed at kids" is more for people with imagination and happiness in their life.
A miniature museum is pretty awesome and those can be very child friendly.

so, anyways, it's dumb to discriminate. Have better security or something. I haven't ever ran into not being able to enter though.

There's a really dumpy park near my sister's house with a playground in it. I'll occasionally stop for a couple of minutes if I'm having a joint and sit on a bench, but only if it's empty. If I saw someone approaching, I'd leave. It's just out of convenience and seriously looks like shit/never has anyone there.

Most parks are big enough that you don't need to sit by the playpark...

I guess I disagree with the Legoland thing though, I would honestly hope their security is good enough to spot creepy people? I like...love Lego and I feel like wanting to visit solo is not exceptionally odd.

I felt pretty strongly in the male babysitter topic, but I still understood the rationale of the opposing side. I'm a bit more on the fence with this one, because I do think there's some...sense to being respectful and making other people feel more comfortable in public.

grown ass men shouldn't be going to theme parks on their own

pedro45 posted...

I'm a male that goes to the park alone from time to time

Yeah but do you sit at the playground? If so, don't do that

ReturnOfFa posted...

I felt pretty strongly in the male babysitter topic

I didn't follow that topic but I do think women more commonly want to be babysitters so when a guy wants to do it naturally that will raise some eyebrows. I've never actually even met a guy who was a babysitter outside of watching his own family members kids or something.

Either way, I wouldn't personally let any stranger watch my kids outside of a school environment and even that's not 100% safe

OhhhJa posted...

Yeah but do you sit at the playground? If so, don't do that

I sit under trees wherever i want. Rarely is it by the swings but it is sometimes. Swings are a trip these days. They really make my head float.
I've had kids approach me. One time these two little kids were just rambling about what i was reading and something about their grandma. I forgot how much kids just like combine all their words.
So if anything, I'm child friendly.

OhhhJa posted...

I didn't follow that topic but I do think women more commonly want to be babysitters so when a guy wants to do it naturally that will raise some eyebrows. I've never actually even met a guy who was a babysitter outside of watching his own family members kids or something.

Either way, I wouldn't personally let any stranger watch my kids outside of a school environment and even that's not 100% safe

I'll try not to revive the discussion too much, lol. Many people were saying they would never hire a male babysitter simply because the chance of abuse is higher, which is statistically true. Others, along with me pointed out that even if you don't hire male babysitters, there is still a statistical chance for abuse. I don't really want to come down on either side in that discussion just because I understand the rationale of both, even if I have an opinion. I think it should probably just be based on having a fundamental trust with whomever you are choosing to care for your child.

pedro45 posted...

I sit under trees wherever i want. Rarely is it by the swings but it is sometimes. Swings are a trip these days. They really make my head float.
I've had kids approach me. One time these two little kids were just rambling about what i was reading and something about their grandma. I forgot how much kids just like combine all their words.
So if anything, I'm child friendly.

tbf there are some very large parks that I'll chill at with friends that are just loaded with everyone. basketball courts, people that have set up huge long tables for family BBQs, people LARPing, kids running around...

I was walking to grab something from my car; these two little kids were running around, then suddenly started asking me about the long looking blueberries and eating them. I told them they probably shouldn't do that! I looked them up later though and they seemed to be safe.

Looks like this thing is a bit more complicated, which I think is totally fine. It looks like single adults are allowed in some parts, but other parts are for kids. That makes a lot of sense.
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OhhhJa posted...

Somewhat related... I was taking my kid to the playground the other day and it was completely empty except for one dude just sitting on the bench at the playground reading. I understand it was empty when I got there but there were also tons of places to sit that weren't right at the playground so that just seemed sus and we left. Seems like a good rule of thumb to not sit at a playground if you're a single dude though

If it was empty then who tf cares where he sits.

MabinogiFan posted...

If it was empty then who tf cares where he sits.

Because it's a playground (ya know, a place meant for children) and there were objectively better spots to sit with more shade since it was hot and sunny out. And it wasnt empty when we showed up and then other kids showed up and he's still just chilling there. Literally made no sense to sit there unless he wanted to watch kids.

So many dudes upset by someone suggesting some old dude by himself shouldn't hang out at a playground. Weird

Dikitain posted...

Why? That is usually when adults go out and do non work or chore related things.

Weekends/days off are a thing.

Personally, I don't want to go anywhere after work. I just want to go home and relax and not have to deal with anybody,

EDIT: I just realized this isn't CE, lmao

If you are dumb enough to think that if a grown ass man plays with children that are not his own or friends of his own you need a reality check.

Yeah be a 35 year old man by himself, and run around a playground with 5 year olds playing, and see how fast the cops get called. Even if that man had no ill inattentions I bet most mothers would freak the fuck out.

Reminds me of recently, I was out walking the dog and it was a warm day and I was exhausted and wanted to stop and give dog a drink, I went to a park that isn't a kids park but does have a kids area (there's a difference) I was there maybe 10 minutes and mostly just sat down at picnic table, and every now and again I saw a child run past me, there was 2 kids in the entire park. as I was leaving this man came out of a house and screamed abuse at me and first demanded to know why I as in a "kids" park, I said I was sitting down with dog resting, then when he said I wasn't allowed there I said "you don/t own it" then he instantly made claims I was a P word and even described how I wanted his daughers and I was creepy looking and how he was going to follow me home and stab me!,he kept repeating this and eventually I swore at him after saying its a park and I was allowed to sit there.

Did call the cops on him as didn't want a scumbag like that to harass anyone else.

silvergokuZ posted...

Reminds me of recently, I was out walking the dog and it was a warm day and I was exhausted and wanted to stop and give dog a drink, I went to a park that isn't a kids park but does have a kids area (there's a difference) I was there maybe 10 minutes and mostly just sat down at picnic table, and every now and again I saw a child run past me, there was 2 kids in the entire park. as I was leaving this man came out of a house and screamed abuse at me and first demanded to know why I as in a "kids" park, I said I was sitting down with dog resting, then when he said I wasn't allowed there I said "you don/t own it" then he instantly made claims I was a P word and even described how I wanted his daughers and I was creepy looking and how he was going to follow me home and stab me!,he kept repeating this and eventually I swore at him after saying its a park and I was allowed to sit there.

Did call the cops on him as didn't want a scumbag like that to harass anyone else.

Yeah it seems people who don't want men to go out in public are of the "I can't be trusted around children because I'm a closeted pedo, so I'm sure these other guys are too!" mindset. It's like cheaters with their projection or republicans and theirs. Very obvious and sad.

silvergokuZ posted...

Reminds me of recently, I was out walking the dog and it was a warm day and I was exhausted and wanted to stop and give dog a drink, I went to a park that isn't a kids park but does have a kids area (there's a difference) I was there maybe 10 minutes and mostly just sat down at picnic table, and every now and again I saw a child run past me, there was 2 kids in the entire park. as I was leaving this man came out of a house and screamed abuse at me and first demanded to know why I as in a "kids" park, I said I was sitting down with dog resting, then when he said I wasn't allowed there I said "you don/t own it" then he instantly made claims I was a P word and even described how I wanted his daughers and I was creepy looking and how he was going to follow me home and stab me!,he kept repeating this and eventually I swore at him after saying its a park and I was allowed to sit there.

Did call the cops on him as didn't want a scumbag like that to harass anyone else.

My story reminded you of this wild, hardly believable story that isn't at all similar to my story... weird

Ferron posted...

Yeah it seems people who don't want men to go out in public are of the "I can't be trusted around children because I'm a closeted pedo, so I'm sure these other guys are too!" mindset. It's like cheaters with their projection or republicans and theirs. Very obvious and sad.

Is it really this difficult for you to not sit at a playground? Fuckin weird bro. And it's actually more because child predators DO like to hang out around playgrounds and schools and it isn't at all uncommon. So yeah, when you see some guy without kids hanging out at a playground it raises some eyebrows. Really not tough to understand for normal people

OhhhJa posted...

Is it really this difficult for you to not sit at a playground? Fuckin weird bro. And it's actually more because child predators DO like to hang out around playgrounds and schools and it isn't at all uncommon. So yeah, when you see some guy without kids hanging out at a playground it raises some eyebrows. Really not tough to understand for normal people

Please, define normal for us.
Mind you, my fiance and i both go to the park alone. I like to read and smoke, she likes to smoke and stretch.
Is there some better public location to enjoy outdoors and activities like that?

pedro45 posted...

Mind you, my fiance and i both go to the park alone

but do you go to the park alone...together?

I'll say yes. At that point, we're not going alone but...together. I think that answers that.

It seems people are having trouble comprehending the difference between being at the park and being literally on the playground

Sounds like you're having trouble not judging people. Unless you're doing something illegal, it's a public park, for the public.

Dikitain posted...

I do too, but my zoo has a "happy hour" where adults can go to the zoo. It is actually a really great time to go because it is at night when most of the animals are actually the most active. They also serve alcohol during that time if you are into that kind of thing.

I thought zoos werent inherently a kid thing. Its just animals, dude. Sure, kids like animals, but that doesnt make it a kid thing. Its all ages.

pedro45 posted...

Sounds like you're having trouble not judging people. Unless you're doing something illegal, it's a public park, for the public.

As a parent you kinda have to judge people, especially when they're being fucking creeps tbh. Gotta get a threat assessment and stay vigilant.

Some creepo skulking about the playground where children are playing when there's dozens of other more appropriate places to sit, while technically legal, still makes that person a fucking creepo weirdy.

So yeah, if I'm at the playground with my kids and some grown-ass creep is there with no kids of his own, I'm judging the fuck out of him. Don't want to be thought of as being a creep? Don't do creepy shit, even when said creepster shit is "legal"

MeatiestMeatus posted...

As a parent you kinda have to judge people, especially when they're being fucking creeps tbh. Gotta get a threat assessment and stay vigilant.

Some creepo skulking about the playground where children are playing when there's dozens of other more appropriate places to sit, while technically legal, still makes that person a fucking creepo weirdy.

So yeah, if I'm at the playground with my kids and some grown-ass creep is there with no kids of his own, I'm judging the fuck out of him. Don't want to be thought of as being a creep? Don't do creepy shit, even when said creepster shit is "legal"

What if the person just wants to relax and swing for a bit, are they still a creep? I'll be honest I've skipped over most of the comments from pedos in this thread who think all men are bad because they know they can't control themselves around children so they assume everyone is like them.

Ferron posted...

I'll be honest I've skipped over most of the comments from pedos in this thread who think all men are bad because they know they can't control themselves around children so they assume everyone is like them.

Seems like a weird conclusion to jump unless you're just mad you get judge hanging around playgrounds by yourself. Child predators are out there and it's not as rare as you seem to think it is. As a parent, you have to be vigilant and watch out for your children in public places

Look, this is hypothetical for me and a lot can change depending on circumstances.

Suffice to say, I don't know what that person's motivations are for being there, and I am not gonna confront the dude unless they're putting my kid in direct danger, but I can guarantee you it would set off a red flag for me if there was a grown man hanging out in a playground with no kids of their own.

Maybe they're just resting. Maybe they're reading a book. Maybe they're confused and in a fugue state. I don't fucking know and frankly I don't fucking care, but that doesn't mean that I'm not keeping an eye on that dude I'm case he tries some bullshit

I wouldn't preemptively confront someone on the likely chance they're harmless, and if I felt my kids were in any real danger I'd get them the fuck out of there and/or call the police, but all that said, yeah - that dude is being a fucking creep until I know his motivation and reason for being there, which I acknowledge is none of my fucking business, but my kids well-being is, so without knowing their reason, I'm flagging them as a creep in my brain so I can stay vigilant for my kids sake

^ exactly that

Dikitain posted...

As a single man, I would feel kind of odd going to a place where it is nothing but kids if I wasn't accompanying any kids there. Anyone who is comfortable with it should probably think about WHY they are.

what does being a man have to do with it

OhhhJa posted...

Seems like a weird conclusion to jump unless you're just mad you get judge hanging around playgrounds by yourself. Child predators are out there and it's not as rare as you seem to think it is. As a parent, you have to be vigilant and watch out for your children in public places

I don't know you and meat seem pretty creepy on my end

Ferron posted...

I don't know you and meat seem pretty creepy on my end

You sound like an incel from my perspective

OhhhJa posted...

You sound like an incel from my perspective

I'm not, but I'll admit I'd much rather be an incel than a child predator so at least I've got that going for me over you

OhhhJa posted...

You sound like an incel from my perspective

for wanting to sit where he wants unharassed?

the term incel really has lost all meaning at this point.

Nade_Duck posted...

for wanting to sit where he wants unharassed?

the term incel really has lost all meaning at this point.

For having a problem with not sitting by himself at a playground. That's definitely predator/incel behavior