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littlebro07
08/01/23 12:29:52 PM
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https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1686349939725492224?s=20

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/7/AADT1PAAEtsP.jpg

"Florida is the number one state in the nation for education."

fucking LOL

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mystic_belmont
08/01/23 12:33:33 PM
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Our higher education is good, he's looping that into our shit public education.

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Heineken14
08/01/23 12:34:20 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
"Florida is the number one state in the nation for education."

fucking LOL


Lol, same exact thing I saw and immediately was like.... I'm not reading further, because nothing will top that.

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DarthAragorn
08/01/23 12:34:21 PM
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He's such a dumb piece of shit

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creativerealms
08/01/23 12:39:50 PM
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Florida is number one in education before all the changes DeSantis has implanted, both to k-12 and higher education. It will take a while before things get worse. Because that's how things work.

mystic_belmont posted...
Our higher education is good, he's looping that into our shit public education.
He's also trying to screw over higher education in Florida. Didn't he take over some of the school boards in some colleges?

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brestugo
08/01/23 12:41:43 PM
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Some on the right are trying to make Kamala the face of the administration, which is why they're demonizing her under their breath in the media.

Criticizing a black woman still earns brownie points in some circles too.


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Kradek
08/01/23 12:42:03 PM
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He's really trying to have a meeting with Harris just to tell her that she's wrong about slavery and wrong for calling him out on it.

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Humble_Novice
08/01/23 12:42:32 PM
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brestugo posted...
Some on the right are trying to make Kamala the face of the administration, which is why they're demonizing her under their breath in the media.

Criticizing a black woman still earns brownie points in some circles too.
What, are they too scared of Biden now?

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littlebro07
08/01/23 12:45:21 PM
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brestugo posted...
Some on the right are trying to make Kamala the face of the administration, which is why they're demonizing her under their breath in the media.

Criticizing a black woman still earns brownie points in some circles too.

I remember when Kamala was going to be president right away

Any day now, magats

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Kradek
08/01/23 12:45:54 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
What, are they too scared of Biden now?

The right-wing narrative fearmongers over Biden's age because right behind him is President Harris.

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CARRRNE_ASADA
08/01/23 12:47:07 PM
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A 79 year old uncle Ruckus shouldnt be making school curriculums anywhere.

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creativerealms
08/01/23 12:47:48 PM
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Kamala is very unpopular with almost every group so to republicans it makes perfect sense to focus on her instead of Biden. Biden comes off as your kindly but slightly behind the times grandfather and most attacks at him don't work.

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darkace77450
08/01/23 12:49:06 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...
Our higher education is good, he's looping that into our shit public education.

Will it remain so when the people he's spent three years attacking - and in some instances stripped tenure from - decide to leave for less fascist pastures?
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darkace77450
08/01/23 12:51:38 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Biden comes off as your kindly but slightly behind the times grandfather and most attacks at him don't work.

You're not wrong, but that sure as shit hasn't stopped Newsmax from pushing their "Biden Crime Family" narrative.
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brestugo
08/01/23 12:55:34 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
What, are they too scared of Biden now?
I think they see it as an "opportunity" to cue the "angry black woman" narrative...

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BigSLM1993
08/01/23 12:56:49 PM
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There's no incentive for her to do this.

Any decent person already sees through this 'curriculum'. Ron DeSantis only wants soundbites for his meme campaigning on Twitter.

He's too much of a coward to attack Trump, so he has to score his wins elsewhere to try to salvage his flailing campaign.
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ArtiRock
08/01/23 1:04:10 PM
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Listening to him gives him more importance than he deserves.

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brestugo
08/01/23 1:04:15 PM
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Kradek posted...
He's really trying to have a meeting with Harris just to tell her that she's wrong about slavery and wrong for calling him out on it.

This is our timeline.

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Unknown5uspect
08/01/23 1:07:20 PM
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More purely performative bullshit. It's all theater all the fucking time with these worthless fucks.

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Smashingpmkns
08/01/23 1:10:54 PM
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Desantis' biggest defense of the curriculum is "have you read it?" So really they should just release a detailed infograph of all the racist shit in it as a response to this.

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Gritty
08/01/23 1:22:10 PM
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Cucksantis
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Block_that_Kick
08/01/23 1:24:55 PM
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DeSantis: DEBATE ME!!!

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Ivynn
08/01/23 1:33:38 PM
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Block_that_Kick posted...
DeSantis: DEBATE ME!!!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/8/7/AAZaD9AAEttL.jpg

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MrMojoRising
08/01/23 1:35:39 PM
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every day, I wish Gillum's zoinked-out ass would've won my state's governorship

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DrizztLink
08/01/23 1:35:56 PM
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BigSLM1993 posted...
There's no incentive for her to do this.

Any decent person already sees through this 'curriculum'. Ron DeSantis only wants soundbites for his meme campaigning on Twitter.

He's too much of a coward to attack Trump, so he has to score his wins elsewhere to try to salvage his flailing campaign.
He's not even brave enough to go after Brandon.

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Heineken14
08/01/23 2:46:23 PM
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littlebro07 posted...


I remember when Kamala was going to be president right away

Any day now, magats


There was some dumb fuck on 261 who was adamant that Biden wouldn't even make it to the first debate and that the DNC would force him to drop out after he won the nomination and therefore Kamala would be.

Shame nothing was archived. :/

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Bass
08/01/23 2:50:24 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
"Florida is the number one state in the nation for education."
Lmao

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Shadow_Don
08/01/23 2:50:59 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Florida is number one in education before all the changes DeSantis has implanted

Can you link the metrics/data showing this?

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TonyKojima
08/01/23 2:52:15 PM
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Tell him to pound salt.

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TonyKojima
08/01/23 2:52:48 PM
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creativerealms posted...
Florida is number one in education before all the changes DeSantis has implanted, both to k-12 and higher education. It will take a while before things get worse. Because that's how things work.

He's also trying to screw over higher education in Florida. Didn't he take over some of the school boards in some colleges?
Wrong NJ ranks higher.

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Strider102
08/01/23 2:54:39 PM
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"Florida is the number one state in the nation for education."

Thanks I needed that today, I burst out laughing.

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brestugo
08/01/23 2:57:23 PM
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There's a narrative that she's a "do nothing" VP.

Which is curious because - especially after Cheney - most people probably don't want the VP up front on policy.

He's trying to lay a trap.

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ZMythos
08/01/23 3:04:06 PM
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As a math teacher, I can't help but notice the emphasis on "arithmetic" rather than "mathematics."

On the surface this is clearly an appeal to boomers since the term is fairly antiquated in modern education.

But also, "mathematics" encompasses a lot more than just arithmetic literacy. Mathematics is about logic, reasoning, proof, critical thinking, and questioning assumptions. All of which are higher order thinking skills that would tear a hole in DeSantis' ideal fascist society.

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mystic_belmont
08/01/23 3:59:25 PM
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ZMythos posted...
. All of which are higher order thinking skills that would tear a hole in DeSantis' ideal fascist society.

Republicans are against higher order thinking.

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creativerealms
08/01/23 4:42:09 PM
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TonyKojima posted...
Wrong NJ ranks higher.
Maybe NJ recently topped the chart. When I searched the list had Florida at number one and NJ at number two. It could have been slightly out of date.

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Derwood
08/01/23 4:42:34 PM
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Ron Mainsplaining to Kamala is peak cringe

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Heineken14
08/01/23 4:49:42 PM
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mystic_belmont posted...


Republicans are against thinking.


Trimmed the fat on that a bit.

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TheSuperSilver
08/01/23 4:52:04 PM
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littlebro07 posted...
https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1686349939725492224?s=20

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/2/7/AADT1PAAEtsP.jpg

"Florida is the number one state in the nation for education."

fucking LOL
First damn line of the letter - how do you expect anyone to take you seriously with that lead in?

What a joke. No wonder his campaign is sinking.

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thronedfire2
08/01/23 4:57:37 PM
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I was curious about how the hell Florida got ranked #1 in higher education

https://tinyurl.com/58dyhu6f

But a closer look at the details behind these rankings had us wondering what it all really means. Is Floridas No. 1 education title really an indication that students are getting the best of it here?
You got a positive Yelp review. Thats, in essence, what you just got, explained Akil Bello, Director of the National Center for Fair & Open Testing. The group advocates against the misuse of standardized testing.
But for years, Bello has also been a vocal critic of the US News & World Report ranking systems. On Twitter last year, he called the rankings terrible and wrong.
They are using subjective analysis, filtering it through numbers and pretending its objective, he explained. That conveys to parents to families to shoppers, essentially, false information. They're using metrics that no one would actually want to measure if you were looking at education, he said.
According to its website, US News education rankings are measured using a limited number of metrics that include graduation rates, cost of tuition, debt at graduation, and the number of citizens in each state who hold a college degree.
Are you going to choose a college based on the number of people with associate degrees or better that live in the community around it? What does that have to do with the college itself, asked Bello, who also said graduation rates are more reflective of money than any academic excellence achieved by a student.
Most of the people who end up not graduating are because they didn't have the funding to continue. So unless you disaggregate those who academically didn't graduate from those who financially couldn't graduate, youre not actually saying anything, he said.
The US News & World Report rankings are pretty narrowly focused, Andrew Spar, head of Floridas largest teachers union, agreed. But Spar isnt writing off the rankings, which also deemed Floridas pre-k through 12 education system No. 14 nationally.
While that measurement was also limited to metrics like graduation rates, it also included test scores from some 8th-grade exams along with results from college readiness exams, including the SAT and ACT.
I wouldn't say I don't take it seriously. I take it for what it is, Spar explained when asked about criticisms about the rankings.
In a press release shortly after the rankings were made public, Floridas Department of Education described its methodology as measuring the overall quality of each states education system.
The Florida education model stands alone as a shining example for all other states to follow, added Commissioner Diaz.
But if these rankings speak to the quality of education students get in Florida, Bello advises you may want to look somewhere else.
Basically, somebody just called Florida pretty, he said, One of the problems with politicians endorsing these rankings is that they're misleading the public. They're suggesting that these rankings are providing real information about the quality of education when in truth they're not, he said.
In response to questions about its methodology and metrics, a spokesperson from US News & World Report sent us the following statement:

Florida, the No. 1 state overall in the education category, ranks in the top half of states on eight of 10 education metrics. It is also No. 1 in higher education, particularly excelling in the tuition and fees metric and in metrics assessing college graduation rates. The state excels in the tuition and fees metric of the higher education subcategory and in metrics assessing college graduation rates, but ranks in the top 10 for only one pre-K-12 metric: high school graduation rate.

To ensure the Best States rankings are objective and fair, U.S. News designed the initial framework in consultation with a third party. U.S. News also weighted the eight major categories based on results from representative surveys designed to determine which factors Americans believe their home states should prioritize.

Within each category, the initial metrics were selected objectively in collaboration with experts, using specific criteria. Among these considerations were the comprehensiveness, reliability and timeliness of the data reflected by each metric, criteria that continue to inform the project with each release. The project uses publicly available government data when possible and proprietary data in cases where public data was not available.


so basically they just focused on standardized tests and probably forced schools to pass kids who shouldn't have

and the college rank just seems to be about graduation rates

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Kradek
08/01/23 6:05:25 PM
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Lol just heard that Harris rejected his invitation and rightfully called it an insult.

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thronedfire2
08/01/23 6:19:04 PM
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Kradek posted...
Lol just heard that Harris rejected his invitation and rightfully called it an insult.

I hope so.

let him try to explain that shit on a debate stage when he has a 5 minute allotment to kill

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Kradek
08/01/23 6:20:42 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
I hope so.

let him try to explain that shit on a debate stage when he has a 5 minute allotment to kill

I worded it poorly, by "I heard", I mean I heard literal audio of her saying it to an audience.

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blue42972
08/01/23 7:14:38 PM
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This is a mistake on DeSantis's part. He should have refused to meet her and try to ban her from Florida. That MAY get him slight support. Instead, this makes him look stupid.
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ssj3vegeta
08/01/23 7:21:58 PM
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da right will call him weak for doing dis LMAO

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Heineken14
08/01/23 7:23:29 PM
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blue42972 posted...
This is a mistake on DeSantis's part. He should have refused to meet her and try to ban her from Florida. That MAY get him slight support. Instead, this makes him look stupid.


Well he IS weak and stupid.

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Antifar
08/01/23 7:27:20 PM
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Been a pretty significant effort to tie criticism of this curriculum (including and maybe especially from black Republicans) to Kamala.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Tim%20Scott%20kamala&t=BdnTCDVMn1Kw5qEz0_oWaw&s=09

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thronedfire2
08/01/23 7:31:00 PM
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blue42972 posted...
This is a mistake on DeSantis's part. He should have refused to meet her and try to ban her from Florida. That MAY get him slight support. Instead, this makes him look stupid.

he was the one sending the invitation though. she was never even going to entertain the idea of a one on one dicussion unless he secured the republican nomination.

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ArtiRock
08/01/23 7:33:37 PM
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thronedfire2 posted...
he was the one sending the invitation though. she was never even going to entertain the idea of a one on one dicussion unless he secured the republican nomination.
Yeah, that's why I said "responding to it gives him more importance." She has no reason to meet that loser.

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