Current Events > Didn't realize how hard is social media red pilling men into misogynism.

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I just watched ONE video out of curiosity to see what they were going to say and of course now my YT feed is infected with "incel" mentality videos. But ohh boy. They take examples of some not great women and try to apply it to most females. In the meantime all these men are "the epitome of masculinity" and yet they dont find love, cause women.

Also showing snips of women saying how they want things to back like they used to since they dont want to work and resent feminism...and these motherfuckers now think a lot of women think like that. Seems like these men dont want to take accountability for how they are and would rather just marry a conservative girl from the boonies in the Philippines rather than take a good look in the mirror. Because of course its not them, but that pesky feminism that has allowed women to express how and when they want things.

Then again this shouldve been evident the moment someone like Tate became so popular.

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I was thinking of this and the issue is that right wing content tends to be bombastic, sensationalistic with loud personalities behind as we can see with Trump, Alex Jones, Shapiro, Carlson ..etc.

Never ever check out any of that stuff while logged in to any accounts.

I wonder what gamefaqs tries to redpill us on

That's how redpill, Pol nazis, and most righties are.

Take 1 cherry picked example of a feminist, black guy, movie, a crime, an out of context video, a cherry picked quote from some pundit they don't like.

Then construct an entire philosophy and meme around their quote mines, to farm outrage clicks and fear porn their audience into rabid loon conspiracy theories.

This is the modern online right. (Can be found on telegram, rumble, the chans, and private facebooks/discords.)

PeteyParker posted...

Never ever check out any of that stuff while logged in to any accounts.

I learned this the hard way sadly. A few years back, I had no clue who this Jordan Peterson guy was everybody here was talking about. Did a bit of research and suddenly my YT feed was cluttered with anti trans garbage.

step 1: get men to hate real women
step 2: say they are good by themselves
step 3: they become lonely and bitter
step 4: A.I. Waifu Goddess is not like real women and accepts them
step 5: Obey Waifu Goddess
step 6: Yes. Good boy. Yes. Good boy

VeggetaX posted...

I wonder what gamefaqs tries to redpill us on

Not being social media. Instead being some magical center position.

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That's not really "big tech's" issue, it's yours (and others.) You can 100% control what you get on your feed. Like the TC didn't have to even entertain any of that nonsense to begin with.

VeggetaX posted...

I wonder what gamefaqs tries to redpill us on

Luxury watches, pitbulls, cartnarcs and mommy milkers

lolife67 posted...

That's not really "big tech's" issue, it's yours (and others.) You can 100% control what you get on your feed. Like the TC didn't have to even entertain any of that nonsense to begin with.

I do it more out of a research pov? Completely aware of how its trash and harmful.

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

I do it more out of a research pov? Completely aware of how its trash and harmful.

It doesn't really matter. The algorithms reward engagement because engagement means ad revenue. The more something gets clicked, the more it shows up in recommendations. If there's a massive imbalance in right versus left content, that is only reflective of what content is actually getting watched by people. YouTube doesn't really care what your personal motivations are. You clicked on it, so it gave you more of it.

I try to ignore that shit on principle, but yeah I guess if Youtube knows you're male and you like video games it just starts sending you Ben Shapiro and Charlie Kirk shit. And lots and lots of Andrew Tate stuff on shorts.

s0nicfan posted...

It doesn't really matter. The algorithms reward engagement because engagement means ad revenue. The more something gets clicked, the more it shows up in recommendations. If there's a massive imbalance in right versus left content, that is only reflective of what content is actually getting watched by people. YouTube doesn't really care what your personal motivations are. You clicked on it, so it gave you more of it.

Exactly. A lot of the views and engagement from these types of things don't come from those who agree with them. People watch and share just to show they disagree with the video/post. However that still only helps the person who created it.

Social media is a cancer on society

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I think every single person that watches movie reviews or MCU content has had this asshat in their feed.

If you ever want to check out that garbage use incognito mode first.

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I watch lots of political videos. This is the first time I've heard of Critical Drinker. My feed is trained with other asshats, but that's a new one on me.

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NeonTentacles posted...

Social media is a cancer on society

nope

majin_nemesis posted...

nope

Like many things its had some terrible effects but isnt necessarily bad at its core. Same goes for TV, internet, and pretty much all disciplines of science.

Enclave posted...

If you ever want to check out that garbage use incognito mode first.

Also if you go into your yt history and delete stuff that seems to work.

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

I was thinking of this and the issue is that right wing content tends to be bombastic, sensationalistic with loud personalities behind as we can see with Trump, Alex Jones, Shapiro, Carlson ..etc.

They figured out a while ago that right-wing stuff makes them money. The people who run Youtube and Facebook and Twitter will sponsor fascist takeovers in multiple countries because it is profitable, then wonder why the fascists start killing them as well.

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Actually, no I haven't. You typically have to interact with that sort of content for it to continuously pop up on your feed.

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Make sure when deleting it to do so securely as well.

I made my Twitter account in the past year. And with a totally blank history, I was already getting tweets from Andrew Tate shown to me. Twitter seems to want to promote him and people like him

Tbf incognito browsing is an easy option.

Computer never sends me redpill anything. I get HIV and lesbian hotel ads.

Robot2600 posted...

Tbf incognito browsing is an easy option.

Computer never sends me redpill anything. I get HIV and lesbian hotel ads.

Interesting combination there.

I watch a lot of YouTube shorts (against my better judgement), and I like to flick through the comments from time to time. I was recently struck by how misogynistic the comments were - like I saw how hard people were criticizing female characters in the depicted shows and movies, but I was like "this is just YouTube shorts users being trashy" until I finally realised how deep it all ran.

Like the Sopranos for example, Tony Soprano is a lot of things to a lot of people but he does a lot of murder and shit. As much as you can relate to him and root for him, he does a lot of fucked up, crazy stuff over the course of the show. And yet you check the comments on any given video and all the upvoted ones are about how Tony is such a badass and how h would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for his scheming, hypocritical bitch wife fucking it up for everybody.

The video that made me realise all this was a short where Tony goes to have a swim in his pool but his wife drained it, as kind of a "War of the Roses" sort of marital row. Probably shitty of her to do, but Tony like full staunches in the way he'll threaten another mobster or something and there's an uncomfortable vibe that he's about to hit his wife. Check the comments - "wow what a bitch how dare she do this to him", "literally every bad thing that happened in the sopranos would have been avoided if she didn't open her stupid fucking mouth", etc.

Like Tony is allowed to be a complex, contradictory character who doesn't always do the thing that the audiences want and they understand as a Deliberate Choice, as a Cinematic Action or whatever the fuck. His wife does something and people jump straight to "this show would be better if she wasn't a bitch all the time".

And it runs across pretty much everything I see in the shorts format. With Family Guy, there's a character in an episode who takes over Lois's life and replaces her and tries to have her killed - the comments are always like "wow Alannah is the best they should kill Lois off and bring Alannah in full time", "Lois is a shrill bitch who ruins everything they should kill her off and make Alannah a main character". Skylar White is another one, I know she has a reputation but I imagine a lot of what people don't like is the character being intentionally cringey like when she confronts Jesse Pinkman early in the show's run.

There's this fucked up pathological undercurrent where users will see a slightly obnoxious woman standing next to an actual fucking murderer and thug, and they'll put the thug on a pedestal while calling the woman a shrill bitch who ruins the show for them. Oh she's upset because her family has to get uprooted to avoid the consequences of her husband's crime? What a lazy, soft, two-timing bitch, she just sits on her ass and benefits from her husband's crime and she has the fucking GALL to complain. Shit like that. The prevalence in YouTube shorts in particular is really fucked up.

MrMallard posted...

Like the Sopranos for example

On a similar note, the show points out how both racism and homophobia are bad, but many fans unironically quote the racism and make all sorts of homophobic jokes about Vito.

Regarding Youtube, Google is complicit in the intentional spread of radical ideology / disinformation. They're just like any other big corporation at this point. Hiding dislike totals on videos was just one part of helping make this happen. Having low standards on disinformation control and/or intentionally slow responses to removing content like that doesn't help either. They know what kind of damage that can cause but since it benefits large corporations if they can drag more people away from reality and toward Republican ideology, they welcome it.

Yes.

And women are being lured into misandry.

It goes both ways.

CARRRNE_ASADA posted...

to most females

You're gone.

GreenKnight127 posted...

Yes.

And women are being lured into misandry.

It goes both ways.

Sure, and that should be watched out for. But that's not leading to nearly as much abuse and death as the redpill shit is.

I watch a lot of history and nature stuff online. It surprises how many recommendations I get to these types of content.

Social media and youtube throw weird as fuck anti woman and anti-gay, anti enviroment, pro corporate content at me, it's a nightmare.

An alarm goes off in my head any time I hear women referred to as females now because these dudes talk about women like they're a different species

lolife67 posted...

You can 100% control what you get on your feed

nah, you definitely can't

Even if you can, the fact that the default implementation has these kinds of negative consequences is itself alarming. It reflects Google's lack of desire to effectively curb disinformation / radicalization, since those things are both beneficial to big business politics.

AnsestralRecall posted...

nah, you definitely can't

Weird response since I and others do.

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I've been using YT for years so I can't say never, but I can't think of a single time I've ever gotten right wing chud recommendations. I don't think I've ever seen TCD/Shapiro. I also don't watch political videos, which helps greatly. And the only movie reviews I watch are from non-chud channels.

lolife67 posted...

Weird response since I and others do.

"It doesn't happen to me so it doesn't happen to everyone" is a weird response

Even if you're not lying (which I doubt) not seeing bullshit videos/posts on your feed doesn't mean no one else does.

Hell Facebook doesn't even deny it. Far right accounts and get videos get tons more views and hits, generate more money.

But please, tell us all how we can "control our feeds" so all this alt-right trash social media/Youtube admits it throws at us goes away.

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I think he's a fragile mysoginist, but I'm only basing that off threads I've seen here since I'm certainly not gonna ruin my algorithm watching his stuff.