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Kafkaf
06/21/23 11:44:36 PM
#102:


Madcatz? Ok, now I'm laughing

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Full_Pokedex
06/21/23 11:45:20 PM
#103:


hockeybub89 posted...
Duncan is just mad that people don't think his shitty family with shitty beliefs are good people.
Leave my family out of this >:(

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No_Tolerance
06/21/23 11:46:06 PM
#104:


Even in death the rich still find a way to foot the bill on the taxpayers.
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Ninjaluver
06/21/23 11:47:08 PM
#105:


How have mods not run ravenous with this topic? I remember they were quick to suspend anybody who dared to suggest that maybe Queen Elizabeth wasn't perfect following her death, but laughing at people currently dying because they are rich is okay? Do we not have humanity anymore?
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Agonized_rufous
06/21/23 11:48:27 PM
#106:


Ya_dun_goofed posted...
Then no, what happened is terrible but a sub with game controllers should be raising red flags... Of course people are going to laugh at something that absurd.

Some may say that the he controller is sub par

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shnangyboos
06/21/23 11:49:30 PM
#107:


One might think you weirdos know these people personally, but all you know is "rich", so you can apply everything negative you apply to "the rich" to them. Truly critical and complex thinking not seen before, true progressivism.

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Zeeak4444
06/21/23 11:53:28 PM
#108:


Doe posted...
The internet and 'meme culture' makes it really easy to separate the reality of a situation from morbid fascination and comedic absurdity.

A lot of attempts at socioeconomic explanations etc just don't ring true to me. Sure, people may say "they're rich who cares" when someone presses them that their online posting behavior is immoral or exploitative. But that doesn't mean they began engaging in that behavior after a moral calculation. Rather, the internet encables a group complicity where you never need to consider the moral dimension in the first place. Appeals in defense of the behavior's morality are just ad hoc, and only exist because someone demanded justification.

if you think absurdity and black humor werent around since the existence of society then Id advise you to crack a few books.


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Autocraticus
06/21/23 11:53:45 PM
#109:


hockeybub89 posted...
So you decided to go the other angle and see if kissing their feet might get you in on the sweet billionaire money?


See what I mean?
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IfGodCouldDie
06/22/23 12:05:47 AM
#110:


Full_Pokedex posted...
Leave my family out of this >:(
Then respond to my posts directed at you.

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Anteaterking
06/22/23 12:06:28 AM
#111:


Gritty posted...
Really its hard for you to understand why a society with such a huge wealth Disparity is laughing at the billionaires who went on a little 10,000 leagues under the sea fantasy cruise?

if you know these people personally sure its a tragedy. Otherwise its no different than a billionaire dying on Everest.

Tbf I also don't really shed a lot of tears for "regular" (obviously it still costs enough money that it puts it out of reach for people below a certain wealth threshold) people who die trying to climb Everest either.

Like at some point you're doing things that have inherent risks for no reason than adventurer's spirit or w/e. When there's a plane crash, I'm not like "Oh well, you chose to fly on a commercial airliners, there's inherent risks of air travel". But thrill seeking activities are the way they are *because* there's a perceived risk of harm/potential loss of life. There's also a level of commitment to going on a sub / trekking up Mt. Everest where it's not just a momentary lapse of judgment that leads to bad results. Maybe people haven't really contextualized the potential harm, but they are told about it.

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ninjaman44
06/22/23 12:13:50 AM
#112:


They paid an absurd amount of money to put themselves in danger and it cost them their lives. Anyone with any sense would see how fucking reckless this was.

It's undoubtedly a terrible way to go, but it was such a stupid plan from the very beginning that I can't help but shake my head. All that wealth, and that was what they chose to spend it on? Money like theirs could save lives, and they wasted it ending their own.

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iPhone_7
06/22/23 12:22:00 AM
#113:


Gwynevere posted...
I mean, it was a bunch of people with fuck you money getting into a tin can to go look at the watery grave of a bunch of people who also had fuck you money. It's just ironic in a fucked up sort of way


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Lil_Bit83
06/22/23 12:30:10 AM
#114:


I feel bad for the passengers and families. I do intend to mock the morons who built, drove, and ignored safety regulations and warnings. And I hope their company gets shut down.

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Questionmarktarius
06/22/23 12:31:53 AM
#115:


Lil_Bit83 posted...
safety regulations
it's international waters
https://www.insider.com/titanic-sub-avoided-safety-rules-by-diving-in-international-waters-experts-2023-6
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Charged151
06/22/23 12:32:23 AM
#116:


mercurydude posted...
Remember that line in the movie where the person bragged that God couldn't sink the TItanic? Stockton Rush was the modern day version of that mindset. It's the exact same hubris, except even dumber considering it was about a glorified sea hoopty this time.
Well said.

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Lil_Bit83
06/22/23 12:35:41 AM
#117:


hockeybub89 posted...
So you decided to go the other angle and see if kissing their feet might get you in on the sweet billionaire money?
Are you implying that only the super rich do dumb dangerous things for a thrill with their extra moolah?

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Lil_Bit83
06/22/23 12:37:45 AM
#118:


Questionmarktarius posted...
it's international waters
https://www.insider.com/titanic-sub-avoided-safety-rules-by-diving-in-international-waters-experts-2023-6
The company was told repeatedly to test run the damn thing and they didn't do it, they also lied about it.

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R1masher
06/22/23 1:19:54 AM
#119:


I'm just butt hurt mad I once got modded for saying who in a so and so celeb died topic and a bunch of clowns can says rich people are idiots and deserve to die and the mods are like whateves its absurd

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
06/22/23 1:21:47 AM
#120:


Darwin Awards are literally all about laughing at stupid deaths every year and that has been happening for a LONG TIME now.

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Smackems
06/22/23 1:26:05 AM
#121:


Snakethief posted...
The way the media has turned this into a big ass spectacle is kinda weird
This is their pastime

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Ninjaluver
06/22/23 1:36:43 AM
#122:


R1masher posted...
I'm just butt hurt mad I once got modded for saying who in a so and so celeb died topic and a bunch of clowns can says rich people are idiots and deserve to die and the mods are like whateves its absurd

Exactly. Really highlights how the rules don't actually apply on this site. All that matters is the personal beliefs of whatever mods happen to be on that board.

I've seen so many posts by people that mimic the very thing I've been suspended for in the past, but because the overall message is something the mod agrees with, it goes without consequences.
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Phenomenal_one
06/22/23 1:41:56 AM
#123:


Dumb and reckless? Yes but I cant imagine what they going through. You just sitting in that small sub, possibly in the dark, depending on how deep it is, freezing. Just waiting for death basically. Id be loosing my shit.
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Dark_Arbron
06/22/23 1:46:03 AM
#124:


IfGodCouldDie posted...
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I think we need to talk about the misuse of victim blaming these days.

she was asking for it, dressed like that is victim blaming.
people who ignored warning signs and put themselves at risk of dying ended up dying is not victim blaming.

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Dark_Arbron
06/22/23 1:47:30 AM
#125:


Ninjaluver posted...
Exactly. Really highlights how the rules don't actually apply on this site. All that matters is the personal beliefs of whatever mods happen to be on that board.

I've seen so many posts by people that mimic the very thing I've been suspended for in the past, but because the overall message is something the mod agrees with, it goes without consequences.

Weve seen this type of post before


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Humble_Novice
06/22/23 1:48:05 AM
#126:


https://twitter.com/Salviati_/status/1671678584962838528

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Ninjaluver
06/22/23 1:54:49 AM
#127:


Dark_Arbron posted...
I think we need to talk about the misuse of victim blaming these days.

she was asking for it, dressed like that is victim blaming.
people who ignored warning signs and put themselves at risk of dying ended up dying is not victim blaming.

The fuck? Both of your examples are victim blaming.
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KaZooo
06/22/23 1:59:39 AM
#128:


As far as empathizing to humans, that is a horrible way to go.

As far as looking at it in broad perspective...
There's the submarine design
The general concept of doing this
The cost
That stepson

It's fair to call out the stupidity in it, but yeah I wouldn't laugh at those people who are about to die. It's just in the end, wow we have something like this in society and some people who have the most power to do almost anything else in their lives decided on this.

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hockeybub89
06/22/23 2:04:09 AM
#129:


Ninjaluver posted...
The fuck? Both of your examples are victim blaming.
Maybe mommy and daddy can help you study hard and you can come back to this website years from now when you graduate from 8th grade with at least a C+ in English.

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MisterPengy
06/22/23 2:10:44 AM
#130:


I've read that they were going well past the maximum depth that sub could handle. I feel bad for the kid, and for the other passengers if they were clueless about this and the other safety issues.

Plenty of people are killed all the time due to dumb luck and the circumstances they were born or forced into. These people had all sorts of resources and still chose to do a dumb thing that killed them. By comparison, I can't bring myself to care.

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Noname12
06/22/23 2:10:54 AM
#131:


Lets be real. 90 percent of people on earth if asked if they could see the Titantic, would. Being rich doesnt justify being happy theyre going, because lets be honest. We all know the users that are gleeful, because this is way some to get back to rich people.

Isnt one of them 18? What wrong has he done? Its going to a miserable panic inducing long death for them.

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ironman2009
06/22/23 2:13:24 AM
#132:


The memes have been top notch today.

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MICHALECOLE
06/22/23 2:15:05 AM
#133:


MisterPengy posted...
I've read that they were going well past the maximum depth that sub could handle. I feel bad for the kid, and for the other passengers if they were clueless about this and the other safety issues.

Plenty of people are killed all the time due to dumb luck and the circumstances they were born or forced into. These people had all sorts of resources and still chose to do a dumb thing that killed them. By comparison, I can't bring myself to care.
Do you really need to bring yourself to let everybody know you dont care that theyre dead?
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Razor
06/22/23 2:15:36 AM
#134:


BunkerBoy posted...
It's not so much laughing or victim blaming

It's really just a "Why the fuck are we having the government spend hundreds of thousands (if not millions) to rescue these people who put themselves in a stupidly dangerous situation for no real reason"

Do you support student loan forgiveness?
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BurmesePenguin
06/22/23 2:16:39 AM
#135:


Its honestly kind of gross. Nobody reacts like this when people die climbing Mt. Everest or other mountains and I see no difference other than the wealth status of the people in question.

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DarthSloth5555
06/22/23 2:16:46 AM
#136:


Razor posted...
Do you support student loan forgiveness?

Not remotely the same thing.

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DarthAragorn
06/22/23 2:17:17 AM
#137:


Razor posted...
Do you support student loan forgiveness?
well you sorta barely but not really tried

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MisterPengy
06/22/23 2:21:45 AM
#138:


BurmesePenguin posted...
Nobody reacts like this when people die climbing Mt. Everest

Has that ever been in the news? I mean we all know people die on Everest, but I've never seen a news story or any thing about a specific person dying there.

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Ferarri619
06/22/23 2:22:04 AM
#139:


The stepson of the billionaire is getting hate, including from Cardi B, for attending Blink 182 concert on day that his dad could be dead

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Ninjaluver
06/22/23 2:23:47 AM
#140:


hockeybub89 posted...
Maybe mommy and daddy can help you study hard and you can come back to this website years from now when you graduate from 8th grade with at least a C+ in English.

If you knew my profession and educational background, you'd see that this post is the purest irony. It's just....*chef's kiss*
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Sega_System
06/22/23 2:26:24 AM
#141:


Agonized_rufous posted...
Some may say that the he controller is sub par
Making jokes about this? I can't believe you'd sink so low.

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Senta
06/22/23 2:28:38 AM
#142:


Have you people no shame? Jokes like these are how you end up barely keeping your head above water in social circles.

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Noname12
06/22/23 2:30:04 AM
#143:


Senta posted...
Have you people no shame? Jokes like these are how you end up barely keeping your head above water in social circles.
Theres a huge obvious correlation between the people on CE who are generally down in every category of life and the mocking of these people

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Dark_Arbron
06/22/23 2:32:35 AM
#144:


Ninjaluver posted...
If you knew my profession and educational background, you'd see that this post is the purest irony. It's just....*chef's kiss*

Doesn't mean your take wasn't idiotic.

Acknowledging risks consequences a person brings upon themselves (especially when they knew those risks/consequences) is not victim blaming.

Noname12 posted...
Theres a huge obvious correlation between the people on CE

Mmm, someone else with a history of shilling for authority speaking down to the board as a whole. Always the sign of a quality post. Is that how your last account got banned?

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Ninjaluver
06/22/23 2:32:50 AM
#145:


Senta posted...
Have you people no shame? Jokes like these are how you end up barely keeping your head above water in social circles.

It really shows how disconnected from reality most people on this board are.

If you said any of the comments I'm seeing people make mocking these dying people IRL, you'd be ostracized by everyone around you.

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DarthAragorn
06/22/23 2:34:13 AM
#146:


Noname12 posted...
Theres a huge obvious correlation between the people on CE who are generally down in every category of life and the mocking of these people

Ninjaluver posted...
It really shows how disconnected from reality most people on this board are.

If you said any of the comments I'm seeing people make mocking these dying people IRL, you'd be ostracized by everyone around you.
this fucking submarine would somehow go over your heads wouldn't it

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Dark_Arbron
06/22/23 2:35:03 AM
#147:


Ninjaluver posted...
It really shows how disconnected from reality most people on this board

Again, someone with a history taking the undeserved position of aloofness.

You're not our enlightened superior here to educate us.

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Ninjaluver
06/22/23 2:38:11 AM
#148:


Dark_Arbron posted...
Doesn't mean your take wasn't idiotic.

Acknowledging consequences you brought on yourself is not victim blaming.

Mmm, someone else with a history of shilling for authority speaking down to the board as a whole. Always the sign of a quality post. Is that how your last account for banned?

If he wanted to call my take idiotic, he could have done that. That doesn't mean he had to act like a child and embarrassingly make a claim that couldn't be further from reality.

Victim blaming, quite literally, means blaming a victim. These people are victims of the tragedy that is unfolding. Now, you want to add conditions and qualifications to the definition of victim blaming, but it doesn't work like that.

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MICHALECOLE
06/22/23 2:40:33 AM
#149:


Ferarri619 posted...
The stepson of the billionaire is getting hate, including from Cardi B, for attending Blink 182 concert on day that his dad could be dead
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BurmesePenguin
06/22/23 2:41:10 AM
#150:


Senta posted...
Have you people no shame? Jokes like these are how you end up barely keeping your head above water in social circles.
The effort it took to craft this joke for the specific context was so strained it was more offensive than the joke itself.

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Senta
06/22/23 2:42:32 AM
#151:


Ninjaluver posted...
It really shows how disconnected from reality most people on this board are.

If you said any of the comments I'm seeing people make mocking these dying people IRL, you'd be ostracized by everyone around you.

Honestly, I don't equate jokes and memes about the situation to mocking the people themselves.

They are separate things in my mind. I feel nothing but pity for those people in the sub; it's terrifying imagining myself in that situation..and I've been in a sub before as a tourist, and just swinging over a 2000 foot drop scared the living shit out of me. Just ground..then nothing, like it was cut away. I can't even imagine the crushing fear I would feel in this situation..

But damn if I haven't laughed at some of the memes and jokes.

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