Poll of the Day > Remember when they didn't cast David Hayter as the voice of Snake in MGSV

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faramir77 06/13/23 1:34:25 AM #1:	And instead paid probably like 100x more for Keifer Sutherland And then made Snake a virtually silent protagonist --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiCtAUrZbUk -- Defeating the Running Man of Ocarina of Time in a race since 01/17/2009. -- <cite>faramir77 posted [p:974120914] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>And instead paid probably like 100x more for Keifer SutherlandAnd then made Snake a virtually silent protagonist </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 06/13/23 4:19:04 AM #2:	People understandably give Konami a lot of shit but to pretend Kojima didn't have any part in MGSV's issues is ridiculous. --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:974122586] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>People understandably give Konami a lot of shit but to pretend Kojima didn't have any part in MGSV's issues is ridiculous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cruddy_horse 06/13/23 5:57:54 AM #3:	Zareth posted... People understandably give Konami a lot of shit but to pretend Kojima didn't have any part in MGSV's issues is ridiculous. Yeah if you look into it it's completly understandable why Konami gave him the boot, he was wasting millions on pointless, trivial shit like said expensive actor and kept asking for more money and time and still not finishing the actual game. I hate how much people fondle his nuts while he huffs his own farts, dudes a hack through and through. <cite>Cruddy_horse posted [p:974123381] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>People understandably give Konami a lot of shit but to pretend Kojima didn't have any part in MGSV's issues is ridiculous.</quote>Yeah if you look into it it's completly understandable why Konami gave him the boot, he was wasting millions on pointless, trivial shit like said expensive actor and kept asking for more money and time and still not finishing the actual game. I hate how much people fondle his nuts while he huffs his own farts, dudes a hack through and through.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reciful_II 06/13/23 6:13:11 AM #4:	I was hoping it was because Hayter would do solid snake in a surprise appearance. Instead it felt like some weird guy had hypnotized all the peace walker characters into believing he was Snake. --- It doesn't matter what I put in here, it's probably been done already <cite>Reciful_II posted [p:974123503] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>I was hoping it was because Hayter would do solid snake in a surprise appearance. Instead it felt like some weird guy had hypnotized all the peace walker characters into believing he was Snake.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenBananas 06/13/23 7:04:05 AM #5:	I didnt mind it so much #freeKojima --- Big yellow joint big yellow joint I'll meet you down at the big yellow joint <cite>FrozenBananas posted [p:974123943] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>I didnt mind it so much#freeKojima</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CedarPointcp 06/13/23 7:09:32 AM #6:	i thought sutherland did a better job than hayter would have done. But prob. most gamers think differently. Not sure why though. Hayter has been going downhill ever since mgs1 <cite>CedarPointcp posted [p:974124011] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>i thought sutherland did a better job than hayter would have done. But prob. most gamers think differently. Not sure why though. Hayter has been going downhill ever since mgs1</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SuperVergil 06/13/23 7:22:16 AM #7:	In the few lines spoken he's still infinitely better than Hayter ever was. --- "Your silence was refreshing, while it lasted." <cite>SuperVergil posted [p:974124139] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>In the few lines spoken he's still infinitely better than Hayter ever was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BroodRyu 06/13/23 7:51:29 AM #8:	Hayter >>>>>> Sutherland <cite>BroodRyu posted [p:974124515] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Hayter >>>>>> Sutherland </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rotpar 06/13/23 9:44:49 AM #3:	Zareth posted... People understandably give Konami a lot of shit but to pretend Kojima didn't have any part in MGSV's issues is ridiculous. Yeah, Konami gets all the blame when Kojima made a crappy story. --- "But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you." - O'Brien, 1984 <cite>Rotpar posted [p:974126030] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>People understandably give Konami a lot of shit but to pretend Kojima didn't have any part in MGSV's issues is ridiculous.</quote>Yeah, Konami gets all the blame when Kojima made a crappy story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 06/13/23 9:48:39 AM #4:	While a lot of problems did stem from Konami's actions around that time, Kojima still had a hand in how that game turned out. Taking 6 years and $80 million and still only delivering 60% of a game isn't really a good look for Kojima. And I say this and I like Kojima, and I liked MGSV for what it was, but I can't pretend it wasn't also his fault how unfinished that game was. --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:974126090] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>While a lot of problems did stem from Konami's actions around that time, Kojima still had a hand in how that game turned out. Taking 6 years and $80 million and still only delivering 60% of a game isn't really a good look for Kojima. And I say this and I like Kojima, and I liked MGSV for what it was, but I can't pretend it wasn't also his fault how unfinished that game was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 06/13/23 9:49:56 AM #5:	Also this reminds me I still haven't played Death Stranding --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:974126129] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Also this reminds me I still haven't played Death Stranding</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 06/13/23 10:03:56 AM #6:	Rotpar posted... Yeah, Konami gets all the blame when Kojima made a crappy story. To be fair - and I say this as someone who doesn't even like Kojima or any of the MGS games - when your superiors are a bunch of assholes and you spend tons of your development time arguing with them, it's kind of hard to make a good story. It would be one thing if MGS was the only problem, and Kojima was clearly the root cause. But Konami's absolute chucklefuckery when it comes to pretty much every property they ever owned for multiple years running kind of shows they were absolutely to blame, at least in part. Something that becomes even more apparent when you find out about all of the cut or underdeveloped content that was planned for the game but didn't make it in because of the eventual blow-up. The realistic answer is that both Konami and Kojima were responsible for what ultimately happened. Blaming only one or the other is missing the full picture. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:974126393] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote><cite>Rotpar posted...</cite><quote>Yeah, Konami gets all the blame when Kojima made a crappy story.</quote>To be fair - and I say this as someone who doesn't even like Kojima or any of the MGS games - when your superiors are a bunch of assholes and you spend tons of your development time arguing with them, it's kind of hard to make a good story.It would be one thing if MGS was the only problem, and Kojima was clearly the root cause. But Konami's absolute chucklefuckery when it comes to pretty much every property they ever owned for multiple years running kind of shows they were absolutely to blame, at least in part. Something that becomes even more apparent when you find out about all of the cut or underdeveloped content that was planned for the game but didn't make it in because of the eventual blow-up.The realistic answer is that both Konami and Kojima were responsible for what ultimately happened. Blaming only one or the other is missing the full picture.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dikitain 06/13/23 10:10:49 AM #7:	Death Stranding was all the proof I needed that most of MGSV's problems stemmed from Kojima. Granted, Konami were being assholes, but Kojima should have easily been able to produce a complete game in 6 years with 80 million dollars. The tacked-on multiplayer was likely Konami's fault, everything else was clearly Kojima. --- My bookshelf: https://www.goodreads.com/review/list/152760030 Comics: https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/profile/dikitain <cite>Dikitain posted [p:974126519] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Death Stranding was all the proof I needed that most of MGSV's problems stemmed from Kojima. Granted, Konami were being assholes, but Kojima should have easily been able to produce a complete game in 6 years with 80 million dollars. The tacked-on multiplayer was likely Konami's fault, everything else was clearly Kojima. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66 06/13/23 12:24:20 PM #14:	Peace Walker was the real MGS5 --- PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69 Big bombs go kabang. <cite>Metalsonic66 posted [p:974129268] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Peace Walker was the real MGS5</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BroodRyu 06/13/23 7:23:31 PM #15:	I also think MGSV has some of the worst maps in open world gaming. So barren and repetitive. <cite>BroodRyu posted [p:974138554] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>I also think MGSV has some of the worst maps in open world gaming. So barren and repetitive. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25 06/13/23 7:28:13 PM #16:	BroodRyu posted... Hayter >>>>>> Sutherland --- One who knows nothing can understand nothing. http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj <cite>wwinterj25 posted [p:974138632] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>BroodRyu posted... </cite><quote>Hayter >>>>>> Sutherland</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 06/13/23 10:00:43 PM #17:	it is weird that konami gets the blame for 5, when it was done by the time they fired kojima it's 100% kojimas fault that 5 is what it is then he released death stranding, and for some reason people still think he's some genius no, the dude sucks --- Microsoft's Activision Blizzard acquisition approved by EU regulators look at my gundams https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:974141129] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>it is weird that konami gets the blame for 5, when it was done by the time they fired kojimait's 100% kojimas fault that 5 is what it isthen he released death stranding, and for some reason people still think he's some geniusno, the dude sucks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrozenBananas 06/17/23 4:55:04 PM #18:	I will not stand for this hate. This game is amazing --- Big yellow joint big yellow joint I'll meet you down at the big yellow joint <cite>FrozenBananas posted [p:974224060] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>I will not stand for this hate. This game is amazing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 06/17/23 7:46:24 PM #19:	ConfusedTorchic posted... it's 100% kojimas fault that 5 is what it is you mean the best mgs game? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:974227055] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>ConfusedTorchic posted... </cite><quote>it's 100% kojimas fault that 5 is what it is</quote>you mean the best mgs game?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcturusisnow 06/17/23 7:58:03 PM #20:	Rotpar posted... Yeah, Konami gets all the blame when Kojima made a crappy story. Zareth posted... People understandably give Konami a lot of shit but to pretend Kojima didn't have any part in MGSV's issues is ridiculous. Your problem with this is that Konami is known to be a completely shit company. I guarantee you that Sutherland was brought in by Konami and not Kojima. Konami also likely had editorial rights on the story and likely forced the story to be as shit as it was. <cite>Arcturusisnow posted [p:974227296] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Rotpar posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, Konami gets all the blame when Kojima made a crappy story.</quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>People understandably give Konami a lot of shit but to pretend Kojima didn't have any part in MGSV's issues is ridiculous.</quote>Your problem with this is that Konami is known to be a completely shit company. I guarantee you that Sutherland was brought in by Konami and not Kojima. Konami also likely had editorial rights on the story and likely forced the story to be as shit as it was.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
What_The_Chris 06/19/23 7:24:17 AM #21:	papercup posted... Also this reminds me I still haven't played Death Stranding me neither, still waiting for people whose opinion i care about to greenlight it for me --- 2022 St. Louis Cardinals rolled over without a fight <cite>What_The_Chris posted [p:974255734] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite><quote>Also this reminds me I still haven't played Death Stranding</quote>me neither, still waiting for people whose opinion i care about to greenlight it for me</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CedarPointcp 06/26/23 11:09:20 PM #22:	FrozenBananas posted... I will not stand for this hate. This game is amazing absolutely , it might be my favorite game of all time. It is easily the most replayable mgs game. Not doing one long linear story was genius. How does this game get a lot of the hate that it gets <cite>CedarPointcp posted [p:974448468] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>FrozenBananas posted... </cite><quote>I will not stand for this hate. This game is amazing </quote>absolutely , it might be my favorite game of all time. It is easily the most replayable mgs game. Not doing one long linear story was genius. How does this game get a lot of the hate that it gets</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BADoglick 06/27/23 12:23:33 AM #23:	papercup posted... Also this reminds me I still haven't played Death Stranding I tried with that game and didn't make it very far. The game was boring and the plot stupid --- BADoglick to the Max! <cite>BADoglick posted [p:974449741] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>papercup posted... </cite><quote>Also this reminds me I still haven't played Death Stranding</quote>I tried with that game and didn't make it very far. The game was boring and the plot stupid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nade_Duck 06/27/23 12:31:11 AM #24:	Cruddy_horse posted... Yeah if you look into it it's completly understandable why Konami gave him the boot, he was wasting millions on pointless, trivial shit like said expensive actor and kept asking for more money and time and still not finishing the actual game. I hate how much people fondle his nuts while he huffs his own farts, dudes a hack through and through. been saying this for as long as i've known his name almost tbh. --- http://i.imgur.com/ElACjJD.gifv "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl <cite>Nade_Duck posted [p:974449860] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Cruddy_horse posted... </cite><quote>Yeah if you look into it it's completly understandable why Konami gave him the boot, he was wasting millions on pointless, trivial shit like said expensive actor and kept asking for more money and time and still not finishing the actual game. I hate how much people fondle his nuts while he huffs his own farts, dudes a hack through and through.</quote>been saying this for as long as i've known his name almost tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 06/27/23 12:34:49 AM #25:	the brilliance of 1-3 are from the actual developers, not kojima. he didn't do shit but waste time on bloat he was the cliff bleszinski of konami mgs2 has actual melting ice cubes. that's really cool and something that, at the time, was fucking unreal next gen shit. kojima gets the praise for it and not the actual dude who stayed up for 4 nights on caffeine pills actually figuring out how to make that work fuck kojima --- Microsoft's Activision Blizzard acquisition approved by EU regulators look at my gundams https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:974449909] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>the brilliance of 1-3 are from the actual developers, not kojima. he didn't do shit but waste time on bloathe was the cliff bleszinski of konamimgs2 has actual melting ice cubes. that's really cool and something that, at the time, was fucking unreal next gen shit. kojima gets the praise for it and not the actual dude who stayed up for 4 nights on caffeine pills actually figuring out how to make that workfuck kojima</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CedarPointcp 06/27/23 7:42:04 AM #26:	ConfusedTorchic posted... the brilliance of 1-3 are from the actual developers, not kojima. he didn't do shit but waste time on bloat he was the cliff bleszinski of konami mgs2 has actual melting ice cubes. that's really cool and something that, at the time, was fucking unreal next gen shit. kojima gets the praise for it and not the actual dude who stayed up for 4 nights on caffeine pills actually figuring out how to make that work fuck kojima how do you know kojima didn't do the actual level design? iirc he did most of the level design for the mgs games <cite>CedarPointcp posted [p:974453842] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>ConfusedTorchic posted... </cite><quote>the brilliance of 1-3 are from the actual developers, not kojima. he didn't do shit but waste time on bloathe was the cliff bleszinski of konamimgs2 has actual melting ice cubes. that's really cool and something that, at the time, was fucking unreal next gen shit. kojima gets the praise for it and not the actual dude who stayed up for 4 nights on caffeine pills actually figuring out how to make that workfuck kojima</quote>how do you know kojima didn't do the actual level design? iirc he did most of the level design for the mgs games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup 06/27/23 8:45:23 AM #27:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t17KDr5M37A The greatest video game cutscene of all time --- Nintendo Network ID: papercups 3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925 <cite>papercup posted [p:974454644] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t17KDr5M37AThe greatest video game cutscene of all time</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyborgSage00x0 06/27/23 5:33:55 PM #28:	Rotpar posted... Yeah, Konami gets all the blame when Kojima made a crappy story. Tbf, MGS as a series has always had a spaghetti story. --- PotD's resident Film Expert. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted [p:974465457] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Rotpar posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, Konami gets all the blame when Kojima made a crappy story.</quote>Tbf, MGS as a series has always had a spaghetti story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth 06/27/23 8:42:21 PM #29:	CedarPointcp posted... how do you know kojima didn't do the actual level design? iirc he did most of the level design for the mgs games He was the director. The director tells people what to do. He probably gave a vague description of what he wanted, the actual level designers built it, and he told them if it was good or not. --- What would Bligh do? <cite>Zareth posted [p:974469584] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>CedarPointcp posted... </cite><quote>how do you know kojima didn't do the actual level design? iirc he did most of the level design for the mgs games</quote>He was the director. The director tells people what to do. He probably gave a vague description of what he wanted, the actual level designers built it, and he told them if it was good or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CedarPointcp 06/27/23 8:46:56 PM #30:	You don't really know that. Who really knows how much level design kojima did in the mgs games. Some directors do do some level design. Though i have heard that kojima as a director did more level design than most directors and most , other stuff besides level design. <cite>CedarPointcp posted [p:974469662] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>You don't really know that. Who really knows how much level design kojima did in the mgs games. Some directors do do some level design. Though i have heard that kojima as a director did more level design than most directors and most , other stuff besides level design.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 06/27/23 11:22:58 PM #31:	That was really disrespectful of Kojima and I think it was a huge mistake Yeah, David's kind of goofy, but so was Kevin Conroy. That's what made it so iconic. Throwing out David Hayter like trash was like upgrading to a slightly more handsome husband 20 years in "just because". It's just too late, we all knew the old one, the kids were all attached to him, it's just too late. I feels like it was one of those things where he never liked David's voice from the beginning and wanted to get his vision for the last MGS game. Kojima's got some weird American celebrity hangup. <cite>Yellow posted [p:974472570] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>That was really disrespectful of Kojima and I think it was a huge mistakeYeah, David's kind of goofy, but so was Kevin Conroy. That's what made it so iconic. Throwing out David Hayter like trash was like upgrading to a slightly more handsome husband 20 years in "just because". It's just too late, we all knew the old one, the kids were all attached to him, it's just too late.I feels like it was one of those things where he never liked David's voice from the beginning and wanted to get his vision for the last MGS game.Kojima's got some weird American celebrity hangup.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 06/28/23 12:01:20 AM #32:	Zareth posted... He was the director. The director tells people what to do. He probably gave a vague description of what he wanted, the actual level designers built it, and he told them if it was good or not. nah, he really did build a level from, i think mgs3? might have been 2, out of lego to figure out how it should be in game. --- Microsoft's Activision Blizzard acquisition approved by EU regulators look at my gundams https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:974473115] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Zareth posted... </cite><quote>He was the director. The director tells people what to do. He probably gave a vague description of what he wanted, the actual level designers built it, and he told them if it was good or not.</quote>nah, he really did build a level from, i think mgs3? might have been 2, out of lego to figure out how it should be in game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ConfusedTorchic 06/28/23 6:40:24 PM #33:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1icmeF0Lks --- Microsoft's Activision Blizzard acquisition approved by EU regulators look at my gundams https://imgur.com/a/F7xKM5r <cite>ConfusedTorchic posted [p:974490704] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1icmeF0Lks</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoSioType 06/28/23 11:45:05 PM #34:	Thinking about it, I never did play MGS5. Maybe that was the reason why? It's not like I'm a huge fan though. I just somehow played the other games (not that I can remember anything). <cite>NeoSioType posted [p:974497511] in Remember w... [t:80475821]...</cite> <quote>Thinking about it, I never did play MGS5. Maybe that was the reason why?It's not like I'm a huge fan though. I just somehow played the other games (not that I can remember anything).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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