Current Events > Baby died in car while parents attend church service.

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mystic_belmont posted...

Wouldn't God, ya know, warn the parents?

I've read shit like "God needed another angel in heaven" in response.

Eplo_Oni posted...

They weren't tired enough to go to church, should have stayed home.

And of course the "pro-life" crowd won't be upset by this.

The baby wasn't in a womb, so it no longer counts as a life to them.

St0rmFury posted...

I've read shit like "God needed another angel in heaven" in response.

Too bad he doesn't take people who say shit like that. Not that I think there'd be any place for such callous assholes in heaven, if there is such a place.

Florida where no charges if your negligence causes your baby to die but charged if abort a clump of cells before they have brain activity or if they saw a movie with LGBT characters.

"Unfortunate??"

That's all you got? The police responded at 1:00pm so this was right in the heat of the day. Not even a window slightly open for air?

Unfortunate?? No...Manslaughter.

Someone once mentioned if you have an infant in the back seat, put one of your shoes that you are wearing in the back with them. The reasoning is you will not go very far from the car wearing only one shoe.

mystic_belmont posted...

Wouldn't God, ya know, warn the parents?

he's too busy asking for people to constantly praise and worship him like the self-centered narcissistic asshole he is...

That's ok, that baby's with Young Jeezy now and gets to have eternal bliss, so case dismissed!

Just kidding, how fucking dare they put their reverence of some delusional sky daddy mythology over their actual living and breathing child. Even if it was a pet I'd be calling them scum still.

St0rmFury posted...

I've read shit like "God needed another angel in heaven" in response.

Absolutely sickening how they will rationalize this shit as some sort of positive. It really burns me up when they'll excuse all atrocities and misfortune that happen to them as "God's will", they sound like abuse victims who have been conditioned to just take it.

Smiffwilm posted...

Yall are really underestimating the power of stupidity.

My local Walmart has a message playing nearly every hour to remind people not to forget their kid in their car.

Sadly, people CAN 100% really be THAT stupid.

This. The message that plays at Walmarts I hear say something like "don't forget your child or dog" lmao. People really are just that stupid.
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christian behavior

A lot of you seem to just want find any reason to hate on religion, leaving a kid in the car can happen to anybody Christian or not. Going into tangents about pro-life/abortion here is just silly.

Also I don't know if anyone bothered to see that the article has been updated:

Police have arrested the mother of an 11-month-old girl who died after they said she was left in a car for three hours while her mother officiated a Florida church service.

As for my personal thoughts on the matter, I don't know how anyone could be so stupid as to leave their kid in the car or how she assumed a member of the church took the child in? When you get to church and park it's everybody for themselves you don't usually have daycare valets. First thing you do is take your kid in and drop them off at the age appropriate activity.

deoxxys posted...

A lot of you seem to just want find any reason to hate on religion, leaving a kid in the car can happen to anybody Christian or not. Going into tangents about pro-life/abortion here is just silly.

This child is only dead because she prioritized sucking sky daddy's balls over the child.

Had she left the child to die in the car while she was hooking up in a hotel or out shopping with her friends we'd be criticizing her for that as the reason this child is dead.

This child is objectively dead because of religion. Bleat against that all you want, it's the only reason this specific child is dead.

why did god kill this baby

Kradek posted...

This child is only dead because she prioritized sucking sky daddy's balls over the child.

Had she left the child to die in the car while she was hooking up in a hotel or out shopping with her friends we'd be criticizing her for that as the reason this child is dead.

This child is objectively dead because of religion. Bleat against that all you want, it's the only reason this specific child is dead.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ children-left-in-hot-car-heatstroke-deaths-puyallup-palm-bay/

This child is objectively dead because of work. I see no topic for this.

I hate saying this, but deoxxys is right. This is just an excuse to hate on religion for this board. Not sure if you were around for it, but a majority of the board voted that they would rather eliminate religion from the world over cancer. Literal cancer.

GranolaPanic posted...

Being forgetful is not bringing diapers or a bottle with you. Theres no excuse to forget that your newborn child is in the car seat when you put them in it minutes ago.

My mum left me at a petrol station as a baby as was exhausted and sleep deprived.

She did realise almost immediately though. It can be easy to just fall into autopilot depending on your circumstances and if still adjusting to having children.

Not excusing these parents though mind.

YugiNoob posted...

This child is objectively dead because of work. I see no topic for this.

Ok? Like I said, then we criticize them for that as the reason.

I stand by my statement, posting articles about kids left in cars who didn't die because of religion doesn't somehow erase the ones who are specifically dead because of it.

If you want to create a thread about how overworked parents have a higher rate of leaving their kids in the car and discuss on the ramifications of that, then by all means, make the thread. I'll post in it and I'll address it per the situation.

Kradek posted...

Ok? Like I said, then we criticize them for that as the reason.

I stand by my statement, posting articles about kids left in cars who didn't die because of religion doesn't somehow erase the ones who are specifically dead because of it.

If you want to create a thread about how overworked parents have a higher rate of leaving their kids in the car and discuss on the ramifications of that, then by all means, make the thread. I'll post in it and I'll address it per the situation.

I like how you dodged the point about how this is an excuse to hate religion by cherry-picking a single part of my post. There were three children who died in hot cars this week alone, and yet this is the only story that pops up? Or are you seriously going to say with a straight face that this isn't related to some personal hatred of religion?

YugiNoob posted...

I like how you dodged the point about how this is an excuse to hate religion by cherry-picking a single part of my post. There were three children who died in hot cars this week alone, and yet this is the only story that pops up? Or are you seriously going to say with a straight face that this isn't related to some personal hatred of religion?

Thank god people aren't born religious or else it would be pretty fucked up to judge something beyond their control.

GranolaPanic posted...

Im not blaming religion. But these parents were more preoccupied with being at this church than they were over the well being of their child. How can any parent go 3 hours and not know that they forgot about their newborn child?

This is my thought. It's terrible parenting to just forget about your child for 3 hours in general.

GranolaPanic posted...

How does this keep happening? Ive heard stories of these kind of tragedies my entire life and I dont understand how a parent can be this negligent.

Sleep deprivation is a bitch.

My parents left me at the grocery store once. Neither of them noticed. This was before cellphones and some older couple found me crying (I was like 4 or 5) and gave me a quarter to call my dad and sat with me while I waited for him. No one seemed to think it was a big deal except me ( -_-)

indica posted...

My parents left me at the grocery store once. Neither of them noticed. This was before cellphones and some older couple found me crying (I was like 4 or 5) and gave me a quarter to call my dad and sat with me while I waited for him. No one seemed to think it was a big deal except me ( -_-)

"But did you die?" ~Everyone in your family I'm assuming.

YugiNoob posted...

I like how you dodged the point about how this is an excuse to hate religion by cherry-picking a single part of my post.

Except I didn't because I just reinforced what I already said that I was correct in discussing the proper cause of this child's death in the proper context.

I won't deny my anti-theist disposition, however that doesn't change the facts, just like if you want to create a thread showing a correlation between overworked parents leaving their kid in the car due to stress or fatigue, then I'd be discussing it on those terms.

YugiNoob posted...

There were three children who died in hot cars this week alone, and yet this is the only story that pops up? Or are you seriously going to say with a straight face that this isn't related to some personal hatred of religion?

Hmm, I concede that I am biased on the subject. To be clear, I am earnestly open to discussing any sort of thread on children left in cars and discussing the cause/resolution for that. Because religion is such an unnecessary thing, unlike say working to provide resources for a dwelling or shopping to provide sustenance for family (for this specific scenario), I find the reasons anybody die in the name of it to be far more egregious than practical reasons such as greed or necessity, which at least have a practical application to them.

No no, I don't need to open a dialogue on religion or anything and appreciate your honesty on it. You're absolutely right that many things, especially work, are much more important than religion. And that if a tragic accident like this were to occur, it's "better" that it happen from a necessity like work than something optional like church.

I suppose I overreacted and got too defensive in regards to that initial post I responded to. I hope that you don't judge my character from this first impression, as I try my best not to leave negative impacts on people.

The Washington Post article about this is a good but heartbreaking read. Baby seats are now recommended to be rear facing but as an unintended consequence this has made it less obvious that the baby is still in the car.

Generally it happens when the routine is a parent heading off to work and drops the kid off to daycare on the way and something about the routine is slightly different. Maybe they got stressed about a work call or had to make another stop. Whatever it was their brain skips over dropping the baby over to daycare and they head off to work on autopilot. Baby is probably sleeping and they get out of the car none the wiser. The brain never registers that the daycare drop off never happened as the rouyime overall continued and that's a common enough event not to stick out in the memory. It's tragic and it has happened several times to a variety of people.

It unfortunately happened in the neighbouring suburb just a few months ago. A suburb I'm very familiar with and the toddler was found dead right in front of the train station. I saw the car and police tape there as my train went past that stop that day. Always think of the poor little boy who died whenever I go by that area now.

I've never heard of this happening with both parents though. I guess it depends on what the routine was supposed to be.

YugiNoob posted...

No no, I don't need to open a dialogue on religion or anything and appreciate your honesty on it. You're absolutely right that many things, especially work, are much more important than religion. And that if a tragic accident like this were to occur, it's "better" that it happen from a necessity like work than something optional like church.

I suppose I overreacted and got too defensive in regards to that initial post I responded to. I hope that you don't judge my character from this first impression, as I try my best not to leave negative impacts on people.

All good, you seem like a chill person and I definitely know the anti-theist vibes I give off, so you weren't wrong in identifying that, I just also have a practical reason for that view more than an emotional one, which I know isn't always translated well.

Kradek posted...

This child is only dead because she prioritized sucking sky daddy's balls over the child.

Had she left the child to die in the car while she was hooking up in a hotel or out shopping with her friends we'd be criticizing her for that as the reason this child is dead.

This child is objectively dead because of religion. Bleat against that all you want, it's the only reason this specific child is dead.

And another child is dead because their mom/dad went into the mall, another child is that because they went into work, another is dead because they went into the house. If you're being honest with yourself you know that these are no different from the parents who went into church.

Her faith in her religion isn't the direct cause of the child being left in the car. As for criticizing other activities prioritized over child care, You don't see anyone saying that a baby would still be alive if hookups and shopping didnt exist

It's the fault of the individuals' irresponsibility or negligence, not the activities they were associated with. Religion has its faults but this isn't one of them.

Edit: I see some of you are already talking about this.

I usually got a lead foot when I drive myself around town and what not.

When I drive with my kids? I go into kid driving mode, meaning im slower and I'm aware.

I also average 3-4 hours of sleep a night.

So sleep deprivation is bull shit excuse.

deoxxys posted...

And another child is dead because their mom/dad went into the mall, another child is that because they went into work, another is dead because they went into the house. If you're being honest with yourself you know that these are no different from the parents who went into church.

Her faith in her religion isn't the direct cause of the child being left in the car. As for criticizing other activities prioritized over child care, You don't see anyone saying that a baby would still be alive if hookups and shopping didnt exist

It's the fault of the individuals' irresponsibility or negligence, not the activities they were associated with. Religion has its faults but this isn't one of them.

I already explained it to another poster, feel free to scroll back and use that as a basis of my response to you.

I edited my post to say I saw some discussion going on. I don't feel like I have anything else to say.

deoxxys posted...

I edited my post to say I saw some discussion going on. I don't feel like I have anything else to say.

That's fair, have a good night.

Thanks you too

YugiNoob posted...

I hate saying this, but deoxxys is right. This is just an excuse to hate on religion for this board.

I don't think it's heating in religion to see and point out the bleak irony in going to church and good not saving his faithful servants' kid in the car.

(Though a couple did use it as a chance to take some shots at religion in general.)

gamestunner posted...

I usually got a lead foot when I drive myself around town and what not.

When I drive with my kids? I go into kid driving mode, meaning im slower and I'm aware.

I also average 3-4 hours of sleep a night.

So sleep deprivation is bull shit excuse.

Bruh, you definitely should be getting more than 3-4 hours of sleep. Your sleep deprivation could lead to a car accident and you don't want that, especially with kids in the car. Like, I don't even think you'd be considered a safe driver legally--have you seen the comparison videos of drunk drivers vs. sleep deprived drivers? No real difference.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

I dont think its possible to simply forget about your kid they have to have some sort of mental condition or were drugged up. Extreme stupidity and extreme sleep deprivation doesnt explain it

Youre wrong. It happens all the time

radical_rhino posted...

Its either:
* The parent forgot the kid was in the backseat. Not too hard to do when youre sleep deprived and maybe naturally forgetful/rushing.
* The parent is stupid and doesnt understand that cars get hot in the sun and are dangerous for children.

I think the latter in this case. I cant imagine their plan when they left home was to bring their baby inside the church but forgot for 3 hours.

The former thought must come from the mind of someone with no kids. Ibdont have kids myself but I wouldn't even leave my dog in a car like that. I wouldn't even take my dog somewhere if I knew I had to go in someplace I couldn't take her.

radical_rhino posted...

Its either:
* The parent forgot the kid was in the backseat. Not too hard to do when youre sleep deprived and maybe naturally forgetful/rushing.
* The parent is stupid and doesnt understand that cars get hot in the sun and are dangerous for children.

I think the latter in this case. I cant imagine their plan when they left home was to bring their baby inside the church but forgot for 3 hours.

it is sadly more likely they left the baby in the car on purpose so it wouldnt make a fuss in the church and be disruptive.

Barber102 posted...

it is sadly more likely they left the baby in the car on purpose so it wouldnt make a fuss in the church and be disruptive.

Unless it's a single room building most churches have child watch.

GranolaPanic posted...

And it shouldnt. How irresponsible can parents be to forget about your children?

people that are exhausted and sleep deprived are very vulnerable to having a break from reality

I have a 14-month old daughter.

I don't know on God's green earth or in the blue hell do you forget the baby in the car.

Life in prison for this. The hell?

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If LGBTQ parents left a kid in a hot car, you can sure as shit believe all the people always going #NotAllChristians would be having a field day.

radical_rhino posted...

Its either:
* The parent forgot the kid was in the backseat. Not too hard to do when youre sleep deprived and maybe naturally forgetful/rushing.
* The parent is stupid and doesnt understand that cars get hot in the sun and are dangerous for children.

I think the latter in this case. I cant imagine their plan when they left home was to bring their baby inside the church but forgot for 3 hours.

And either should result in immediate loss of parental rights or a long prison sentence, depending on whether or not the child survives.

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Who's the butt hurt one? No one in here is religious, it's the complete opposite, it's filled with edgy atheists. Church has as much to do with leaving babies in cars as any other activity negligent parents were prioritizing over their children who passed. If you can't see that I don't know what to tell you.