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G-Ziss 06/03/23 12:56:35 PM #104: |
mystic_belmont posted... Wouldn't God, ya know, warn the parents? People who believe in God also believe that when it's your time to go, it's your time to go. There is no avoiding it. Assuming that's true, God would not have warned the parents because it was the infant's time to go. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kitt 06/03/23 1:01:21 PM #105: |
All the hoops people will jump through to justify this. Being tired/experiencing sleep deprivation is apparently enough to make you forget about your our child but you can sit through church just fine. Fuck outta here. --- What is up, my sister!? https://m.imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://m.imgur.com/hfzvdPe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hinakuluiau 06/03/23 1:11:40 PM #106: |
The fact is that it's a known problem that it's not rare for parents to forget about their kids. Doesn't matter how much people stamp their feet that it'll never happen to them, it does. Not one of these parents thought their kid would die this way. Read this if you doubt it: http://wapo.st/SOwhu8 Article won a Pullitzer which is more than any of the posters screaming about throwing the parents in prison have ever accomplished. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD ... Copied to Clipboard!
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G-Ziss 06/03/23 1:16:11 PM #107: |
Just because it happens, that doesn't somehow make it excusable. A lot of people drive drunk and kill innocent people that way, too. That doesn't make drunk driving excusable. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ultimate_reaver 06/03/23 3:19:42 PM #110: |
Kitt posted... All the hoops people will jump through to justify this. Being tired/experiencing sleep deprivation is apparently enough to make you forget about your own child but you can sit through church just fine. Fuck outta here. --- I pray god will curse the writer, as the writer has cursed the world with this beautiful, stupendous creation, terrible in its simplicity, irresistible in truth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SDBZ 06/03/23 3:28:49 PM #112: |
GranolaPanic posted... Being forgetful is not bringing diapers or a bottle with you. Theres no excuse to forget that your newborn child is in the car seat when you put them in it minutes ago. --- Let's go, Mark Sein! PSN ID: RyuseiDateSRX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/03/23 3:56:01 PM #115: |
I'm shocked all the pro-life, anti-child abuse conservatives with a platform aren't using it to decry this senseless tragedy. Well, maybe not that shocked. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/03/23 3:59:47 PM #116: |
Hinakuluiau posted... The fact is that it's a known problem that it's not rare for parents to forget about their kids. Doesn't matter how much people stamp their feet that it'll never happen to them, it does. Not one of these parents thought their kid would die this way.I wouldn't do it. Guess I'm just a superior lifeform to these worthless sacks of shit who forgot they were raising children. Are we going to defend beating children too? "You know, sometimes humans just get angry and do things they don't mean to. Don't act like it couldn't happen to you. We can't punish people over being human and occassionally lapsing in judgement" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mybbqrules 06/03/23 5:37:31 PM #118: |
radical_rhino posted... Its either:I was a sleep deprived parent when my son was young, and I never left him in a car for more than a few minutes, usually putting gas in the car as he slept. --- Currently playing: Megaman Collection 1 and 2 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 06/03/23 6:11:27 PM #119: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] What's that going to accomplish at that point? There's nothing that's going to be worse than them being responsible for their child dying horribly already. hockeybub89 posted... I wouldn't do it. Guess I'm just a superior lifeform to these worthless sacks of shit who forgot they were raising children. Did you read the article? The mentality of "this would never happen to me" is the type of mentality that leads to it happening. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kitt 06/03/23 6:12:40 PM #120: |
mybbqrules posted... I was a sleep deprived parent when my son was young, and I never left him in a car for more than a few minutes, usually putting gas in the car as he slept.For real. I don't have kids of my own, but I do have a 3 1/2 year-old niece who I spend a lot of time with (unfortunately, because her actual parents are shit), and that's on top of all the busy stuff I have to juggle with in my life. Just the thought of losing track of her for a few minutes under my supervision makes me extremely anxious, let alone leaving her in a fucking car. I'm not even the real parent, dammit. --- What is up, my sister!? https://m.imgur.com/pmc9XsI https://m.imgur.com/hfzvdPe ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/03/23 9:41:34 PM #121: |
GranolaPanic posted... Ive seen a lot of people defend corporal punishment by saying I was spanked and I turned out fineWell yeah, but I'm talking about beyond that since this is a story about parents literally letting their child die and getting defended with "Whoopsie! No one thinks they can accidentally kill their children! Not like they did it on purpose!" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 06/03/23 9:42:58 PM #122: |
Forgetting it over a 3-hour service is an intentional act. --- Let's all please just get along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/03/23 9:44:01 PM #123: |
Punished_Blinx posted... Did you read the article?Among shitty, stupid people, sure. Kinda like when people defend kids bullying and committing violence with "You didn't do things you regret growing up?" No, I really didn't. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shinnokxz 06/03/23 9:55:49 PM #124: |
GranolaPanic posted... How does this keep happening? Ive heard stories of these kind of tragedies my entire life and I dont understand how a parent can be this negligent. Stupid people breeding ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 06/03/23 10:28:44 PM #125: |
hockeybub89 posted... Among shitty, stupid people, sure. Kinda like when people defend kids bullying and committing violence with "You didn't do things you regret growing up?" No, I really didn't. Did you read the article? It is not a purposeful act like bullying. It's the danger of being in a daily repetitive routine and the brain being on autopilot. Having the mindset of "it will never happen to me" is why people don't think about it happening to them. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DuneMan 06/03/23 11:46:17 PM #126: |
Different story, but I saw a headline on CNN that read: Florida woman's car catches fire with her children inside while she was allegedly shoplifting in a mall. She apparently spent an hour in a store shoplifting with a male partner and dropped the items to run out when she noticed her car engulfed in flames. She was then arrested, though initially for other warrants dealing with charges of theft, assault, and battery. Edit: One of the children suffered first degree burns to her face, but bystanders intervened to save the kids. So what's with Florida and leaving children unattended in cars? --- "I'd rather betray the world than let the world betray me." -Cao Cao ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranAures 06/03/23 11:47:38 PM #127: |
DuneMan posted... So what's with Florida --- Just because I have 99% of a heart doesn't mean it can't kill me. It's tried. Twice. My body has a dongle and my heart doesn't care. The one thing we agree on. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BurmesePenguin 06/04/23 12:45:51 AM #128: |
DuneMan posted... Different story, but I saw a headline on CNN that read: Florida woman's car catches fire with her children inside while she was allegedly shoplifting in a mall. She apparently spent an hour in a store shoplifting with a male partner and dropped the items to run out when she noticed her car engulfed in flames. She was then arrested, though initially for other warrants dealing with charges of theft, assault, and battery. Edit: One of the children suffered first degree burns to her face, but bystanders intervened to save the kids.How do you shoplift for an hour? --- Sigful User Logic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 06/04/23 2:12:10 AM #129: |
Punished_Blinx posted... Did you read the article? It is not a purposeful act like bullying. It's the danger of being in a daily repetitive routine and the brain being on autopilot.I did and I don't think it was deliberate, but I'm just not buying that it could happen to anyone. And it doesn't matter. If people make that big of a mistake, they need to pay for it. "It could happen to you too" is just an excuse. People just have to be better than that. I'm not saying I advocate living life with reckless abandon, just that "remember to not do anything that can kill your child" is like telling an adult to be actively remembering that a hot stove is burning hot. Maybe some people need to do that, but it isn't anyone and everyone. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Punished_Blinx 06/04/23 2:47:45 AM #130: |
hockeybub89 posted... If people make that big of a mistake, they need to pay for it. They have. hockeybub89 posted... I'm not saying I advocate living life with reckless abandon, just that "remember to not do anything that can kill your child" is like telling an adult to be actively remembering that a hot stove is burning hot. Maybe some people need to do that, but it isn't anyone and everyone. Everyone goes through autopilot mode at some point in life. Forgetting your work keycard or lunch going to work. Taking the wrong turn because that's usually where you turn off to go to work. People do that kind of stuff every single day. Of course a baby is more important than those things. But the general concept is the same. When your brain is on autopilot you're not priotising anything. You're going through the motions. On rare occasions this leads to tragedy. We don't hear about the people who drove to work and the grandparents called wondering where the kid is so they went back and dropped them off. It's not a news story for the people who drove all the way to their destination only to discover their baby awake in the backseat. All it takes is the wrong combination of events during a routine day for it to happen. People who pat their pocket when they leave the house every day will never forget their wallet compared to people who do not. It's all human nature at the end of the day and sometimes our brain can be our enemy. It's not a bad thing to have things in the routine to make sure it never happens. It's a much better attitude to have than "this won't happen to me" so it's never on your mind. --- A Fallen Mascot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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winged_weltall 06/04/23 2:57:35 AM #131: |
I remember having to run into the grocery store because I forgot something, and had to leave my 2 and 4 year old alone in the car for like 3 minutes. I was going as fast as I can to keep the time as short as possible and felt so bad while I did it. These MFers left an 11 month old ALONE in their car for 3 HOURS! What. The. Fuck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dancedreamer 06/04/23 10:04:02 AM #133: |
I read the article, and it doesn't say the same thing the OP says it says? "The initial investigation revealed that the mother arrived late to a church service she was officiating and believed the victim was brought inside by a member of the church," the police department said in a statement Thursday night. "Approximately three hours later, after service concluded, the mother noticed her child was not inside or with any church member and immediately responded to her vehicle where her child was found still in the car seat and unresponsive." The story made no sense to me until I read this. Sounds like the appropriate charge. --- This isn't funny Dean, the voice says I'm almost out of minutes! ~Alexandra ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueBoy675 06/04/23 10:10:06 AM #134: |
I work at a pharmacy in a grocery store and one time a patient told me they saw a kid asleep in a hot car. I got management and we went out there and the kid was sweating buckets. We called the cops and just as we were about to smash the windows the mom came back and was like oh hes ok hes just sleeping. Some guy overheard and came over and started white knighting for her and warned her the cops were coming. I dont understand why people defend this shit. Thankfully the kid was ok. He had been in there for at least an hour --- Hope rides alone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 06/04/23 10:11:07 AM #135: |
Dancedreamer posted... I read the article, and it doesn't say the same thing the OP says it says?Wtf, so she rolled out of her vehicle to get to church and just assumed someone was going to grab her kid? --- Let's all please just get along. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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action52 06/04/23 10:15:09 AM #136: |
I could imagine myself maybe forgetting leaving my kid in a car for 5-10 minutes while I was putting away groceries or something. I never did that, and I would never forgive myself if I had, but in my worst moments it would maybe be possible. But THREE HOURS? No god damned way. I'm wondering if the parents just didn't want to deal with their kid crying during the service so they left her there, thinking it wasn't hot enough to be dangerous... and then told the cops they forgot. Fucking monsters. --- And who are you, my little friend? Not a spoon... not a fork... but something in between. A fpoon. What will you think of next, Germany? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkBuster22904 06/04/23 10:16:13 AM #137: |
This was definitely deliberate. Maybe not the death, but leaving the kid in the car. "Forgot" nothing. It's an 11 month old in a car. There's like a 95% chance the thing was loudly making itself known, if you get my meaning. --- Haven't had a good sig idea since 2006 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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action52 06/04/23 12:15:43 PM #138: |
DarkBuster22904 posted... This was definitely deliberate. Maybe not the death, but leaving the kid in the car.Exactly. I bet when the police start asking around they'll find the story about "thinking someone else had taken the baby inside" was bullshit, if they haven't already. It would not surprise me one bit if it turned out that they had been regularly leaving their infant in the car when the weather was cooler, and just didn't realize that day would be hot enough to kill their daughter. --- And who are you, my little friend? Not a spoon... not a fork... but something in between. A fpoon. What will you think of next, Germany? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarthDemented 06/06/23 1:43:33 AM #140: |
I don't get it myself. I'm add and forgetful as fuck but I never once forgot my son in the car. No matter how tired or sleep deprived I was or even if he was asleep and quiet. Not once did I ever forget about him. --- Paula Wood. My love, my life. 1980-2021 https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198210788964/#sort=order ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tri-sapphire 06/06/23 2:04:29 AM #141: |
hockeybub89 posted... I did and I don't think it was deliberate, but I'm just not buying that it could happen to anyone. And it doesn't matter. If people make that big of a mistake, they need to pay for it. "It could happen to you too" is just an excuse. People just have to be better than that. So you read the article, but either dismissed or are in denial of the science behind it. For people to be better than that they have to either accept that it can happen to anyone and prepare for that ritualistically, or they need to up and fucking physically evolve so their brain doesn't function like a normal humans. I have no doubt that there are negligent and abusive parents out there, which is why we have a court system that gathers evidence to see if there was intent or neglect involved. In many cases, there were neither. --- "If history is to change, let it change! If the world is to be destroyed, so be it! If my fate is to be destroyed...I must simply laugh!!."- Magus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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