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BurmesePenguin
05/21/23 2:27:05 PM
#152:


videospirit posted...
I mean, we haven't heard from the woman either. We heard from her Lawyer.
Do you not know what a lawyer is?

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R1masher
05/21/23 2:30:43 PM
#153:


BurmesePenguin posted...
Do you not know what a lawyer is?

a miserable pile of secrets?

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gmanthebest
05/21/23 4:06:34 PM
#154:


MistyKnight posted...
A white woman weaponized her tears against a black man who posed no danger to her. If there wasn't video there's a very good chance this man might be fucking dead right now.
OR, a pregnant nurse (after a 12 hour shift during covid) wanted to go home and was stopped by someone who wanted her bike. Oh, and she'd be charged $1200 if the bike was stolen. Sounds like someone who was overwhelmed and didn't really know what else to do. You'd think we would have heard from the teens by now if they have a receipt.

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dancing_cactuar
05/21/23 4:33:47 PM
#155:


I know I'm several days late to this both in terms of the initial accusation and the recipts being shown, but I have to ask how the fuck people thought the notion of a 6 month pregnant woman that just worked a 12 hour shift managing to steal a bike from 5 dudes was real for even a second.

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The_shibe
05/21/23 4:56:49 PM
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*hands you a flame shield*

oh boy.... they dogpiled on my for suggesting her tears were fake.


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The_shibe
05/21/23 5:17:39 PM
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agreed 100%

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action52
05/21/23 6:16:37 PM
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Are you supposed to sound like your life is in danger when you call for help? She sounds like someone who is pissed off because she thinks some asshole is trying to filch the bike she rented, and could possibly be on the hook for $1200 if he takes it and doesn't return it. Which is what she should sound like.

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ghettoraider81
05/21/23 6:44:20 PM
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I just love how some of these clowns are STILL trying to defend themselves.

Fucking jokes/

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asdf8562
05/21/23 10:51:42 PM
#163:


@videospirit
I mean, the receipt is a smoking gun that the men were in the wrong.

There's some wiggle room for misunderstanding vs. intentional slander, but they objectively tried to weaponize public opinion against the woman as well.
Which is not the point I specifically asked.

The poster I replied to seems to be implying they have all the facts that this was a malicious event by the teenagers to cry wolf just because the woman provided a receipt after the fact. If that is the only facts being brought to the table, then that fact alone proves no such thing.

Them weaponizing something is irrelevant to if this was a misunderstanding where they thought they were in the right that it was their bike. So the question is what are ALL of the facts, not just the facts that conveniently paint a narrative. A receipt after the fact in hindsight is not all of the facts to suggest or imply the teenagers were faking in the moment.

Social media tends to do this a lot. For example some and their initial responses to the event. Often social media and news sites cherry picks information and conveniently omit key details to paint a villain and victim to often a misunderstanding blown out of proportion. A phenomenon that often causes unnecessary divide because it fuels division.
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videospirit
05/21/23 11:23:43 PM
#164:


asdf8562 posted...
@videospirit
Which is not the point I specifically asked.

The poster I replied to seems to be implying they have all the facts that this was a malicious event by the teenagers to cry wolf just because the woman provided a receipt after the fact. If that is the only facts being brought to the table, then that fact alone proves no such thing.

Them weaponizing something is irrelevant to if this was a misunderstanding where they thought they were in the right that it was their bike. So the question is what are ALL of the facts, not just the facts that conveniently paint a narrative. A receipt after the fact in hindsight is not all of the facts to suggest or imply the teenagers were faking in the moment.

Social media tends to do this a lot. For example some and their initial responses to the event. Often social media and news sites cherry picks information and conveniently omit key details to paint a villain and victim to often a misunderstanding blown out of proportion. A phenomenon that often causes unnecessary divide because it fuels division.

I mean, he's definitely concluding this was a theft attempt without sufficient evidence, but whether men who were objectively in the wrong should be scorned for trying to wrongfully ruin a woman's life doesn't really matter if the men genuinely thought they were in the right or not.

You can argue that we can't be certain it was an attempted robbery and could have "just been a misunderstanding", but you have to accept that the men's actions to try and slander the woman as a thief on social media are inexcusable.

We have enough evidence to say, without a doubt, that the woman was not a thief and those accusing her of being one are in the wrong with no exception. We don't need any more evidence to clear that point up. If you were somehow attempting to communicate that you accept the men were in the wrong but didn't think we should label them as thieves, you failed to communicate that intent when you attacked the concept of the receipt as being definitive evidence of anything.

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cjsdowg
05/22/23 12:07:13 AM
#165:


videospirit posted...
We have enough evidence to say, without a doubt, that the woman was not a thief and those accusing her of being one are in the wrong with no exception. We don't need any more evidence to clear that point up. If you were somehow attempting to communicate that you accept the men were in the wrong but didn't think we should label them as thieves, you failed to communicate that intent when you attacked the concept of the receipt as being definitive evidence of anything.

What evidence do we have of this? The receipt that she gave is missing key information. She literally has Saul Goodmen out her going to post with what amounts to a receipt with whiteout on it.


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videospirit
05/22/23 12:17:47 AM
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cjsdowg posted...
What evidence do we have of this? The receipt that she gave is missing key information. She literally has Saul Goodmen out her going to post with what amounts to a receipt with whiteout on it.
The receipt has the date of the incident on it, news sources have reviewed the receipt and matched it to the bike in question, and her lawyer has risked her career vouching for it.

I'm honestly not sure of the details of the image having the bit after the date whited out. What is that detail on the receipt normally? whether the actual receipt has those details whited out on it or not or if that was just some tampering on the image of the receipt that was put out on the internet. The lawyer and news organizations that verified the receipt made no mention of that detail, but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt that when they say they verified it, they verified it. The lawyer could be disbarred otherwise.

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iPhone_7
05/22/23 12:23:12 AM
#168:


b**** tried to Emmitt Till someone over a bike with those fake tears and screams for help. Its just a bike Karen

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DnDer
05/22/23 12:30:18 AM
#169:


videospirit posted...
her lawyer has risked her career vouching for it

After 2020, "faking shit for the court would risk their career" isn't the high threshold it used to be. There weren't remotely enough disbarments for that kind of behavior, and that was a huge example.

If the courts don't care enough for the huge examples, can we trust they'll care enough over the small examples?

I'm not saying the lawyer is lying. I'm not. But my threshold for feeling comfortable with saying, "That receipt is legitimate," has to be verification from CitiBike that's been vouched for by an independent third party that has no dog in the fight (like some journalistic outlet).

The lawyer has a receipt. Cool. Until it's presented to a court, it could just be a bluff to provoke a reaction from the guys in the video and catch them in a public a-ha moment. Could be a bluff to make someone settle for defamation without needing to go to court to present it as evidence.

But lawyer having a receipt is not proof that the woman is in the right. And the guys not providing their own receipt doesn't prove they're wrong.

There is no concrete corroboration or debunking of anyone's story based solely on "lawyer has a receipt." Granted, it's entirely probable her story is correct if she has a document and a lawyer. I can allow for that. I can't allow that it's a given her story is correct like some people are asserting.

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CommonStar
05/22/23 12:30:55 AM
#170:


Why is the timestamp blurred in the receipt?
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BurmesePenguin
05/22/23 12:33:35 AM
#171:


The public presentation of the receipt is better evidence than ANYTHING in the video that everyone called her a racist thief over, but now it's not good enough because it hasn't been vetted by a court of law.

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LoserwthAtitude
05/22/23 1:24:41 AM
#172:


iPhone_7 posted...
b**** tried to Emmitt Till someone over a bike with those fake tears and screams for help. Its just a bike Karen

Now, THIS is the shittiest take I ever seen. Goddamn, quite impressive how you messed up the simple opinion.

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gmanthebest
05/22/23 3:34:31 AM
#173:


BurmesePenguin posted...
The public presentation of the receipt is better evidence than ANYTHING in the video that everyone called her a racist thief over, but now it's not good enough because it hasn't been vetted by a court of law.
People were happy being mad at and bullying someone they saw as being in the wrong. Pretty sad that they're grasping at nothing instead of just admitting their mistake.

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tremain07
05/22/23 4:38:53 AM
#174:


Reminder, the Damage Report, The Watch List, The Young Turks and The Medias Touch groups all attacked this woman ,called her a racist karen and sense refused to acknowledge their mistake.

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InfinityMonster
05/22/23 4:54:51 AM
#175:


So, I actually missed something very important in the video.

When a bike is on, it has pink lights. Once it gets docked, it turns off. We see this happen in the video with the beep sound.

The thing I missed was that about 10-15 seconds later, while the guy has the phone in his hand, the bike unlocks and powers on again. His friend immediately starts going "Yo Hasan, you pulled it out? twice. At this point the guys starts claiming it's on his account.

So, it's pretty clear now that this is where the guy took the bike, because it's obviously not her doing it. Did he have it before as well? If the receipt is real, which let's be real, it very likely is, then he took it from her because she leaves after that.

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He has zero incentive. Her lawyer said they're not pressing charges, so he's not looking at anything. The lawyer probably asked the timestamp to be hidden in case the guy posts a receipt, then they can reveal the earlier time, and he would look like a clown and could possibly end up canceled himself.

DnDer posted...
After
You posted earlier how a handful of past Karen events meant it was ok for people to not give any benefit of the doubt and assume the worst.

Yet, millions of teens (not just black teens) acting like dickheads daily means absolutely nothing here. We have to give them the benefit of the doubt, but not the 6 month pregnant woman coming off a 12 hour shift near midtown fucking Manhattan. Why? Seems like it's simply because they're black.

cjsdowg posted...
What evidence do we have of this? The receipt that she gave is missing key information. She literally has Saul Goodmen out her going to post with what amounts to a receipt with whiteout on it.
Nothing will convince you because you started this whole thing off with saying how she was dangerous and deserved to die and you desperately want that to be true. You've basically been posting conspiracy theories at this point. Nothing the lawyer did even compares to the shit Saul does, which is extra hilarious.

Like Burmese said, it's really weird that initially an out of context video was enough to ruin her life, but now the bar has been raised much higher.

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St0rmFury
05/22/23 7:40:19 AM
#176:


LoserwthAtitude posted...
Now, THIS is the shittiest take I ever seen. Goddamn, quite impressive how you messed up the simple opinion.
I have him tagged with this:

https://imgur.io/a/VVsl2bs

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asdf8562
05/22/23 8:26:53 AM
#177:


@videospirit
I mean, he's definitely concluding this was a theft attempt without sufficient evidence, but whether men who were objectively in the wrong should be scorned for trying to wrongfully ruin a woman's life doesn't really matter if the men genuinely thought they were in the right or not.
I don't care about your point arguing something my post isnt talking about.

I specifically addressed a specific action a poster appeared to be implying was a slam dunk that the teens were attempting to steal and intentionally posted it on social media for fake outrage.

The facts do not point to that as of yet.
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Wandering__Hero
05/22/23 8:34:28 AM
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*plays Punch Out music*

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Slayer_22
05/22/23 8:38:31 AM
#180:


Remember when the other topic got locked because a bunch of people got called out for being wrong af?

Was funny.

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NO2_Fiend
05/22/23 8:45:52 AM
#181:


I mean you had to be pretty mental to believe a small woman walked up to a group of men and tried to just claim and steal their bike. Story smelled super fishy from the start.

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NatsuSama
05/22/23 8:55:26 AM
#182:


NO2_Fiend posted...
I mean you had to be pretty mental to believe a small woman walked up to a group of men and tried to just claim and steal their bike. Story smelled super fishy from the start.
History would like a word with you on this idea that a woman can't accuse a group of men something.

Not claiming this woman was lying, but lol to folks using "it's a group of men" as the only basis. Claiming a group of black guys, or really any black guy did some crime to a poor a little white girl isn't some new phenomenon.

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DnDer
05/22/23 8:56:27 AM
#183:


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People said that about TonyKojima for years, until he stopped being parody, and decided to lean into some of the stuff he says for real.

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Wandering__Hero
05/22/23 9:31:31 AM
#184:


DnDer posted...
People said that about TonyKojima for years, until he stopped being parody, and decided to lean into some of the stuff he says for real.

No i'm pretty sure Tony Kojima is still a parody.

Edit: But here's a thread if you want to discuss it https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80452063 I think Tony should see what others think of him to

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VirtuousWrath
05/22/23 10:41:38 AM
#185:


I can't believe some posters are dying on this "but it's a fake receipt" hill. It reminds me of those election fraud conspiracies where people can't accept the outcome of something because it'd mean they were wrong.

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videospirit
05/22/23 11:23:32 AM
#186:


asdf8562 posted...
@videospirit
I don't care about your point arguing something my post isnt talking about.

I specifically addressed a specific action a poster appeared to be implying was a slam dunk that the teens were attempting to steal and intentionally posted it on social media for fake outrage.

The facts do not point to that as of yet.

Ok, than next time you can argue that instead of aggressively claiming the receipt proves nothing. Learn to communicate, because you utterly failed to argue the point you're claiming you were.

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asdf8562
05/22/23 2:56:10 PM
#187:


videospirit posted...
Ok, than next time you can argue that instead of aggressively claiming the receipt proves nothing. Learn to communicate, because you utterly failed to argue the point you're claiming you were.
My communication was just fine. You just can't read and inserted an argument I did not say.

Once again just like in the original post, I specifically addressed a specific action a poster appeared to be implying was a slam dunk that the teens were attempting to steal and intentionally posted it on social media for fake outrage.

The receipt doesn't prove what I specifically addressed. Not my fault you took that and doubled down on something my post doesn't actually talk about.

Your initial reply outright ignored what my post specifically addressed to go argue something my post does not address. Them weaponize public opinion is not a smoking gun they knew they were in the wrong about the bike. People who are in the right weaponize public opinion all the time. Weaponization of public opinion is not a smoking gun argument to any implied argument that the teenagers were faking in thinking it was their bike.
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Steffenfield
05/22/23 7:55:11 PM
#188:


Seems as though it wasn't her bike after all.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/4/AAI-dfAAEgH6.jpg
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iPhone_7
05/22/23 7:59:25 PM
#189:


NatsuSama posted...
History would like a word with you on this idea that a woman can't accuse a group of men something.

Not claiming this woman was lying, but lol to folks using "it's a group of men" as the only basis. Claiming a group of black guys, or really any black guy did some crime to a poor a little white girl isn't some new phenomenon.

This this this

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greenjeans
05/22/23 8:02:24 PM
#190:


Steffenfield posted...
Seems as though it wasn't her bike after all.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/4/AAI-dfAAEgH6.jpg
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Steffenfield
05/22/23 8:07:35 PM
#191:


greenjeans posted...
Lol nobody would write an official report like that. Has to be fake
Quite possible.

I only mentioned that it seemed so.

Such an odd story all around though

Not much of it makes any sense to me.
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Slayer_22
05/22/23 8:43:20 PM
#192:


Steffenfield posted...
Seems as though it wasn't her bike after all.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/4/AAI-dfAAEgH6.jpg
Looks fake af. "Ring-wing tabloid outlets"? I don't think they'd say something like that.

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refmon
05/22/23 8:45:15 PM
#193:


Why does her receipt blur out the time stamp?


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DnDer
05/22/23 9:56:35 PM
#194:


greenjeans posted...
Lol nobody would write an official report like that. Has to be fake

Feels like a cop breaking rank (and policy) to make a statement on social media for... whatever reason. This is not how cops disseminate stuff over socmed (especially stuff that would exonerate black people).

If this dude is a cop, and did involve himself enough to verify any of what he's posted, the dude's in for a suspension or firing.

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greenjeans
05/22/23 10:12:03 PM
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for fucks sake lol
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videospirit
05/22/23 10:16:43 PM
#197:


refmon posted...
Why does her receipt blur out the time stamp?

Someone theorized it was to bait the men into revealing any receipts they have.

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iPhone_7
05/22/23 10:19:47 PM
#198:


Whats incredible is the combined effort people are putting into exonerating this woman. But Im guessing its really more about
portraying the men as bad. Sad!

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videospirit
05/22/23 10:21:39 PM
#199:


iPhone_7 posted...
Whats incredible is the combined effort people are putting into exonerating this woman. But Im guessing its really more about
portraying the men as bad. Sad!

Yes, because the internet should... not care about attempts to frame the woman? Actively embrace the attempts? I'm sorry I've lost my script sir.

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Steffenfield
05/22/23 10:21:58 PM
#200:


This story keeps getting more crazy each day.

I understand nothing. *lol*
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The_shibe
05/22/23 11:26:36 PM
#201:


Steffenfield posted...
Seems as though it wasn't her bike after all.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/5/4/AAI-dfAAEgH6.jpg

and now the people crying for blood for the guys ITT are silent, LOL

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HudGard
05/22/23 11:29:41 PM
#202:


Please wait for the super-duper facts.

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