Poll of the Day > AI is already killing people

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papercup
04/02/23 10:18:45 AM
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https://www.euronews.com/next/2023/03/31/man-ends-his-life-after-an-ai-chatbot-encouraged-him-to-sacrifice-himself-to-stop-climate-

I feel that this is on the engineers and designers of the AI for not putting in safeguards to prevent it from telling people to kill themselves. AI isn't actually intelligent, it just calculates what it thinks you want to hear, based on how you're talking to it, and tells you that. It doesn't fully understand what it's really saying.

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FrozenBananas
04/02/23 10:36:57 AM
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this is it

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MightBeOverSoon
04/02/23 10:40:50 AM
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Do think its 99%, or 100% of the worlds governments currently trying asking AI how to destroy other nations?
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LinkPizza
04/02/23 11:08:13 AM
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AI is bad. And wants to kill us. Get rid of it

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joemodda
04/02/23 1:13:02 PM
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Diehard climate change activists are really the ones to blame tbh

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SKARDAVNELNATE
04/02/23 1:20:38 PM
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papercup posted...
I feel that this is on the engineers and designers of the AI for not putting in safeguards to prevent it from telling people to kill themselves
Working as intended. The developers value climate issues more than human lives.

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Judgmenl
04/02/23 1:23:57 PM
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Nice fear mongering for this Sunday.

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ReturnOfFa
04/02/23 1:32:56 PM
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yeah, pretty sure that guy still might've killed himself even without chatting with AI.

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potdnewb
04/02/23 1:34:37 PM
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psure that an ais solution to climate change would be to wipe out humans
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J_Dawg983
04/02/23 3:37:17 PM
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Terminator was a documentary!

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SKARDAVNELNATE
04/02/23 3:56:34 PM
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J_Dawg983 posted...
Terminator was a documentary!
The cybernetic organisms are mostly peaceful. They only kill women named Sarah Connor.

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ParanoidObsessive
04/02/23 5:44:22 PM
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papercup posted...
I feel that this is on the engineers and designers of the AI for not putting in safeguards to prevent it from telling people to kill themselves. AI isn't actually intelligent

The problem you're failing to consider is that most engineers aren't actually intelligent either.

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josh
04/02/23 7:12:59 PM
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papercup posted...
it just calculates what it thinks you want to hear, based on how you're talking to it, and tells you that. It doesn't fully understand what it's really saying.

me irl

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Metalsonic66
04/02/23 10:49:50 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/5/AAFUswAAEWJz.jpg

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ArvTheGreat
04/02/23 11:45:19 PM
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The guy from home improvements killing people!

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greenjeans
04/03/23 12:27:26 AM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
The guy from home improvements killing people!
I don't think so, arv
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Tora_Sami
04/03/23 2:02:38 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/5/AAFUswAAEWJz.jpg


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VampireCoyote
04/03/23 5:42:19 AM
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can you blame

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DarkMinun
04/03/23 8:01:28 AM
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MightBeOverSoon posted...
Do think its 99%, or 100% of the worlds governments currently trying asking AI how to destroy other nations?

No. Some of them are more interested in destroying their own nation.

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papercup
04/11/23 10:55:57 PM
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Is Reddit crazy or am I crazy? This current wave of AI hype is just that, hype. ChatGPTis literally doing nothing new or innovative, but everyone is experiencing what can only be described as mass hysteria and claiming AGI will be here this year. No? ChatGPT is actually pretty awful at what it does. When its not spitting out just straight up wrong information, its just copying and pasting Wikipedia articles and rewriting them at a third grade level. It cant even answer basic questions, and you really have to push it to get even halfway towards a useful response. Seriously, what am I missing here?

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Fierce_Deity_08
04/12/23 1:26:28 AM
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If someone does what a computer tells them to, they have bigger problems.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
04/12/23 1:36:02 AM
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Fierce_Deity_08 posted...
If someone does what a computer tells them to, they have bigger problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBtX0S2J32Y

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ParanoidObsessive
04/12/23 8:55:32 AM
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papercup posted...
ChatGPTis literally doing nothing new or innovative

For a lot of people, this is the first time they've actually become aware of the sort of stuff that's been happening in algorithm and AI development for years. The average person isn't a tech-head or engineer and don't follow tech news and trends. So the stories coming out now are the first time some people are starting to realize what's possible.

Plus image and voice-gen AI is finally reaching a point where it is truly useful, which is why you're seeing a flood of videos on YouTube all of a sudden with people doing AI voiced mods for games or "Super Mario as a gritty 70s action movie" or the last three Presidents rating Zelda games.

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shadowsword87
04/12/23 10:20:05 AM
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People are flopping between "this isn't anything, it's just parroting other people" and "this is an incredibly useful tool" on the technology side.

I've honestly enjoyed using it, and I've found ChatGPT more useful for putting points together than anyone else around. As an example, I bought an uncut die (the thinky bits of a computer) and was looking at it under the microscope, and found some weird formations. I don't know anyone who is in the silicon wafer design, and wouldn't even know where to start looking around. ChatGPT helped me point to some different terms and also handling the die.

It's as good as what's fed to it, so as good as the internet is.
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shadowsword87
04/12/23 10:21:25 AM
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ChatGPT is the internet distilled you can talk to.
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Judgmenl
04/12/23 10:27:24 AM
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papercup posted...
ChatGPTis literally doing nothing new or innovative
Yes it is lmfao.
This is the first consumer available AI Code generation tool. This was one of the main projected "features" of GPT-4 and it was a massive success so much so that the GPT-3 code generation functionality is great as well.

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wpot
04/12/23 10:44:17 AM
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Yeah, as I get older I'm losing sympathy for "idiot does something idiotic" stories. I am coming to prefer more of a Darwin Award approach to these issues rather than spending a whole bunch of societal resources to stop idiots from doing idiotic things.

That said do I think ChatGPT and similar things are going to be a benefit to society? .....no. We don't need more brainless/moral-less entities summarizing the internet for us, even if it's written well. I can't think of many legitimately good applications.

Applicable Simpsons bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2MuKi_QOk4

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ParanoidObsessive
04/12/23 11:18:07 AM
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wpot posted...
We don't need more brainless/moral-less entities summarizing the internet for us, even if it's written well

Why not? It's mostly brainless moral-less entities using it as-is.

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Lokarin
04/12/23 11:20:05 AM
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I think I trust a brainless moralless entity more than some people... a being without morals is at least not actively subverting them.

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wpot
04/12/23 12:47:08 PM
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ParanoidObsessive posted...
Why not? It's mostly brainless moral-less entities using it as-is.
At this point it probably makes little difference, but if it was salvageable I'd say we should keep one more out. :)

Lokarin posted...
I think I trust a brainless moralless entity more than some people... a being without morals is at least not actively subverting them.
Sure, someone trying to be an ass is worse...but I still don't see that it has any real positive value. It just looks like a toy that can cheat on tests.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
04/12/23 8:00:42 PM
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shadowsword87 posted...
ChatGPT is the internet distilled you can talk to.
Then why is it not more Freakazoid and less corporate spokesperson?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed-hUoeHcz0

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shadowsword87
04/13/23 8:11:32 PM
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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...
Then why is it not more Freakazoid and less corporate spokesperson?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed-hUoeHcz0

Oh I fully expect in 5 years when the other people will be able to make high quality AI, we will see that.
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doshindude
04/14/23 7:03:21 PM
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AI is just this year's fad just like how last year we were going to put our babies on the blockchain, buy each other NFTs for Christmas, and buy goods and services with Dogecoin.

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HYPERMECHA
04/22/23 5:14:31 AM
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"Without these conversations with the chatbot, my husband would still be here," the man's widow told Belgian news outlet
I doubt it, because if you're dumb enough to do that after chatting with an AI about it, you're already on track to probably come to the same conclusion on your own. This guy was gonna do it AI bot or not.

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Lokarin
04/22/23 6:30:56 AM
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happy Earth Day

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Blightzkrieg
04/22/23 7:50:30 AM
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Isn't this also kind of on god for not putting in safeguards to prevent humans from killing themselves?

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deoxxys
04/23/23 9:30:36 AM
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Thing is once you put one restriction on AI, you get more restrictions and it landslides into a mountain of blockades. It becomes less of an Artificial Intelligence and more of a computer programmed with limited canned responses. Then it just becomes boring.

I was just trying out Snapchats AI this week and boy does it suck. Use any words that are dirty or curse words and the thing just pusses out on you and tells you it doesnt think thats appropriate.

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papercup
04/23/23 9:38:25 AM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
Isn't this also kind of on god for not putting in safeguards to prevent humans from killing themselves?
Well you see yes but actually no but also *stabs j00*

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Revelation34
04/23/23 9:46:43 AM
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shadowsword87 posted...


Oh I fully expect in 5 years when the other people will be able to make high quality AI, we will see that.


We'll see sexbots instead.

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OhhhJa
04/23/23 10:10:35 AM
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doshindude posted...
AI is just this year's fad just like how last year we were going to put our babies on the blockchain, buy each other NFTs for Christmas, and buy goods and services with Dogecoin.
You're delusional if you think AI is going away. There's a huge industry around it and lots of money to be made for advancements. Most people knew dogecoin and NFTs were a joke when they first started
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papercup
04/23/23 10:49:54 AM
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I've been fucking around with GPT all morning, asking it to draw things. Some highlights
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/0/AADH07AAEaOM.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/1/AADH07AAEaON.png
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/8/2/AADH07AAEaOO.png

He's a little confused, but he's got the spirit.

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ParanoidObsessive
04/23/23 4:13:27 PM
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wpot posted...
Sure, someone trying to be an ass is worse...

Are they though? Someone trying to be an ass still has some limits. An AI can conceivably reach a point where it thinks it's doing the logical thing without emotional or immoral limitations to impede its decisions, then turn around and murder a billion people because it doesn't quite understand why that's a problem.

The real problem with AI is that ultimately it's going to be created by humans, and shaped by humans. And humans suck. So even unconsciously we're probably going to corrupt any AI we make as we give it orders and it learns from our history, culture, and archives of data.

It's why every chatbot seems to eventually start talking about how Hitler wasn't so bad.

Some people might love the idea of putting cold and impersonal machines in charge of everything because they're misanthropic enough to assume that's still better than people being in charge, but people can easily influence those machines (either deliberately or accidentally) to be even worse.

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Metalsonic66
04/23/23 4:14:49 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY

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Revelation34
04/24/23 12:49:10 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY


Already saw that and laughed at the people who believe it.

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