Board 8 > While driving, how often do you check your mirrors?

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ChaosTonyV4 03/20/23 9:36:29 AM #1:	I got a company car, so Im taking some required training. And it says you should check your mirrors every 3 seconds. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:972290983] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I got a company car, so Im taking some required training.And it says you should check your mirrors every 3 seconds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 03/20/23 10:06:42 AM #2:	When it feels prudent --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:972291401] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>When it feels prudent</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KingButz 03/20/23 10:14:16 AM #3:	Constantly --- to me hero's is just bad person <cite>KingButz posted [p:972291510] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Constantly</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/20/23 10:15:42 AM #4:	Rear mirror every ~2-3s sounds right Left mirror every ~5-10s Right rarely unless I really need to I love the rear since you can see both left/right at once, with much better depth perception. It's a bad habit though because the back is often blocked. And most cars have a tiny useless rear window, so if I'm driving a rental or something I have to adjust to using the right mirror more.. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:972291529] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Rear mirror every ~2-3s sounds rightLeft mirror every ~5-10sRight rarely unless I really need toI love the rear since you can see both left/right at once, with much better depth perception. It's a bad habit though because the back is often blocked. And most cars have a tiny useless rear window, so if I'm driving a rental or something I have to adjust to using the right mirror more..</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 03/20/23 10:24:01 AM #5:	Checking the rear view mirror every 2-3 seconds seems absurd because the situation behind me just isn't realistically going to change that much, unless I'm in a very busy city, which I'm usually not. I think my looking at mirrors is basically entirely subconscious, I just kinda use my peripheral vision to confirm possible dangers behind and around me without thinking. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:972291665] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Checking the rear view mirror every 2-3 seconds seems absurd because the situation behind me just isn't realistically going to change that much, unless I'm in a very busy city, which I'm usually not. I think my looking at mirrors is basically entirely subconscious, I just kinda use my peripheral vision to confirm possible dangers behind and around me without thinking.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
swirIdude 03/20/23 10:26:37 AM #6:	A lot --- Azuarc is my favorite arc of the Game of the Decade 2020 anime. <cite>swirIdude posted [p:972291700] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>A lot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pjbasis 03/20/23 10:31:20 AM #7:	I like to stay as aware as possible so pretty often. I don't know about every 2-3 seconds if the coast is clear though --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png <cite>pjbasis posted [p:972291780] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I like to stay as aware as possible so pretty often.I don't know about every 2-3 seconds if the coast is clear though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/20/23 10:34:11 AM #8:	Paratroopa1 posted... Checking the rear view mirror every 2-3 seconds seems absurd because the situation behind me just isn't realistically going to change that much That doesn't make sense. When going 60mph you move at 40ft/s, which is 3 car lengths per second. At 20mph it's still 1 car length per second. You can change a lane in under 3 seconds too. On a highway the relative speeds are way less, so you don't need to check as much (and I'm pretty sure I do check less there). But for anywhere with traffic lights or 2-way traffic, 2-3 seconds seems necessary. Non-busy cities and suburbs especially because people will regularly go 20mph over, skip red lights, etc --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:972291819] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>Checking the rear view mirror every 2-3 seconds seems absurd because the situation behind me just isn't realistically going to change that much</quote>That doesn't make sense. When going 60mph you move at 40ft/s, which is 3 car lengths per second. At 20mph it's still 1 car length per second. You can change a lane in under 3 seconds too.On a highway the relative speeds are way less, so you don't need to check as much (and I'm pretty sure I do check less there). But for anywhere with traffic lights or 2-way traffic, 2-3 seconds seems necessary. Non-busy cities and suburbs especially because people will regularly go 20mph over, skip red lights, etc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeatoAnAccount 03/20/23 10:35:49 AM #9:	3 seconds might be yeah 3 seconds is a lot longer than you think. I feel like I'm pretty much constantly looking at my mirrors unless I'm very confident that the situation isn't changing --- Neato, an account <cite>NeatoAnAccount posted [p:972291856] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>3 seconds might be yeah3 seconds is a lot longer than you think. I feel like I'm pretty much constantly looking at my mirrors unless I'm very confident that the situation isn't changing </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kevwaffles 03/20/23 10:46:38 AM #10:	I've never really actively checked while in full speed. Just kept it in my peripheral so I'll notice an unusual amount of motion. --- "One toot on this whistle will take you to a far away land." -Toad, SMB3 <cite>kevwaffles posted [p:972292052] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I've never really actively checked while in full speed. Just kept it in my peripheral so I'll notice an unusual amount of motion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ViolentAbacus 03/20/23 11:12:52 AM #11:	Not every three seconds, but I do check often --- https://backloggery.com/zayakza <cite>ViolentAbacus posted [p:972292535] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Not every three seconds, but I do check often</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 03/20/23 11:17:47 AM #12:	As often as I feel the need to. Like... there's no set interval. I'm not counting in my head "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand... look," --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:972292625] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>As often as I feel the need to.Like... there's no set interval. I'm not counting in my head "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand... look," </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 03/20/23 11:45:44 AM #13:	Ashethan posted... As often as I feel the need to. Like... there's no set interval. I'm not counting in my head "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand... look," --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:972293156] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>As often as I feel the need to.Like... there's no set interval. I'm not counting in my head "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand... look,"</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Underleveled 03/20/23 11:50:44 AM #14:	ViolentAbacus posted... Not every three seconds, but I do check often Ashethan posted... As often as I feel the need to. Like... there's no set interval. I'm not counting in my head "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand... look," --- darkx Twitch - MattyDsCorner Games beaten in 2023 - 2; Most recent - Pokemon Legends: Arceus <cite>Underleveled posted [p:972293258] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>ViolentAbacus posted... </cite><quote>Not every three seconds, but I do check often</quote>Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>As often as I feel the need to.Like... there's no set interval. I'm not counting in my head "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand... look,"</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 03/20/23 11:54:27 AM #15:	Paratroopa1 posted... Checking the rear view mirror every 2-3 seconds seems absurd because the situation behind me just isn't realistically going to change that much, unless I'm in a very busy city, which I'm usually not. I think my looking at mirrors is basically entirely subconscious, I just kinda use my peripheral vision to confirm possible dangers behind and around me without thinking. Yeah this was my first thought. If I notice movement (or dont), if an intersection, turn, or lane change is coming up, etc, but taking your eyes off the road every 3 seconds to look in each mirror seems like anxiety to me lol. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:972293339] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>Checking the rear view mirror every 2-3 seconds seems absurd because the situation behind me just isn't realistically going to change that much, unless I'm in a very busy city, which I'm usually not. I think my looking at mirrors is basically entirely subconscious, I just kinda use my peripheral vision to confirm possible dangers behind and around me without thinking.</quote>Yeah this was my first thought. If I notice movement (or dont), if an intersection, turn, or lane change is coming up, etc, but taking your eyes off the road every 3 seconds to look in each mirror seems like anxiety to me lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeydude15 03/20/23 11:58:53 AM #16:	I'd say 3-5 seconds is probably right and bet most people do that. Really, driving becomes so second nature that I bet most people don't even realize they check their mirrors as often as they do. --- Yawn <cite>hockeydude15 posted [p:972293440] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I'd say 3-5 seconds is probably right and bet most people do that. Really, driving becomes so second nature that I bet most people don't even realize they check their mirrors as often as they do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ctesjbuvf 03/20/23 7:12:10 PM #17:	It seems about right when you consider it's only very briefly most of the time. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. <cite>ctesjbuvf posted [p:972302212] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>It seems about right when you consider it's only very briefly most of the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/20/23 7:25:29 PM #18:	Ashethan posted... As often as I feel the need to. Like... there's no set interval. I'm not counting in my head "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand... look," It sounds like there is some conscious evaluation you're doing in your head before you look though. As opposed to doing it regularly rhythm, which is totally automatic, like listening to music. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:972302520] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan posted... </cite><quote>As often as I feel the need to.Like... there's no set interval. I'm not counting in my head "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand... look,"</quote>It sounds like there is some conscious evaluation you're doing in your head before you look though. As opposed to doing it regularly rhythm, which is totally automatic, like listening to music.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 03/20/23 7:30:25 PM #19:	ChaosTonyV4 posted... Yeah this was my first thought. If I notice movement (or dont), if an intersection, turn, or lane change is coming up, etc, but taking your eyes off the road every 3 seconds to look in each mirror seems like anxiety to me lol. Right, I evaluate the necessity of checking the rear view mirror based on whether or not there are intersections or turns that I'm passing. I mean I get people saying '3 seconds is a lot longer than you think' but to that I say, a lot less happens on the road than you think. If I know there are no cars behind me and I haven't passed any places where a car could now be behind me, there is no need to keep flicking my eyes up to the rear view mirror, especially since if there is any car movement behind me I will notice in my peripheral vision. It's far better to keep my eyes focused on the road in front of me because that's where potential unforeseen dangers could be. A pedestrian suddenly crossing the road in front of me is a huge danger; a pedestrian suddenly crossing the road behind me isn't my problem. The only real danger that can come from behind you is a car that might ram into you if you brake too quickly or that might be preparing to pass you and if you aren't a hard braker those threats aren't particularly omnipresent. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:972302616] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>ChaosTonyV4 posted... </cite><quote>Yeah this was my first thought. If I notice movement (or dont), if an intersection, turn, or lane change is coming up, etc, but taking your eyes off the road every 3 seconds to look in each mirror seems like anxiety to me lol.</quote>Right, I evaluate the necessity of checking the rear view mirror based on whether or not there are intersections or turns that I'm passing. I mean I get people saying '3 seconds is a lot longer than you think' but to that I say, a lot less happens on the road than you think. If I know there are no cars behind me and I haven't passed any places where a car could now be behind me, there is no need to keep flicking my eyes up to the rear view mirror, especially since if there is any car movement behind me I will notice in my peripheral vision. It's far better to keep my eyes focused on the road in front of me because that's where potential unforeseen dangers could be. A pedestrian suddenly crossing the road in front of me is a huge danger; a pedestrian suddenly crossing the road behind me isn't my problem. The only real danger that can come from behind you is a car that might ram into you if you brake too quickly or that might be preparing to pass you and if you aren't a hard braker those threats aren't particularly omnipresent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 03/20/23 7:32:08 PM #20:	Paratroopa1 posted... Right, I evaluate the necessity of checking the rear view mirror based on whether or not there are intersections or turns that I'm passing. I mean I get people saying '3 seconds is a lot longer than you think' but to that I say, a lot less happens on the road than you think. If I know there are no cars behind me and I haven't passed any places where a car could now be behind me, there is no need to keep flicking my eyes up to the rear view mirror, especially since if there is any car movement behind me I will notice in my peripheral vision. It's far better to keep my eyes focused on the road in front of me because that's where potential unforeseen dangers could be. A pedestrian suddenly crossing the road in front of me is a huge danger; a pedestrian suddenly crossing the road behind me isn't my problem. The only real danger that can come from behind you is a car that might ram into you if you brake too quickly or that might be preparing to pass you and if you aren't a hard braker those threats aren't particularly omnipresent. To clarify, this isn't a "I'm too lazy to be safe on the road" thing - I think being overly preoccupied with the rear view mirror makes you less safe. Focus your attention in front of you and develop a peripheral awareness for the possibility of cars in your blind spot by evaluating places they could be coming from ahead of time; that's the best way to be safe, imo. Being overly preoccupied with checking the mirrors is a distraction. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:972302650] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>Right, I evaluate the necessity of checking the rear view mirror based on whether or not there are intersections or turns that I'm passing. I mean I get people saying '3 seconds is a lot longer than you think' but to that I say, a lot less happens on the road than you think. If I know there are no cars behind me and I haven't passed any places where a car could now be behind me, there is no need to keep flicking my eyes up to the rear view mirror, especially since if there is any car movement behind me I will notice in my peripheral vision. It's far better to keep my eyes focused on the road in front of me because that's where potential unforeseen dangers could be. A pedestrian suddenly crossing the road in front of me is a huge danger; a pedestrian suddenly crossing the road behind me isn't my problem. The only real danger that can come from behind you is a car that might ram into you if you brake too quickly or that might be preparing to pass you and if you aren't a hard braker those threats aren't particularly omnipresent.</quote>To clarify, this isn't a "I'm too lazy to be safe on the road" thing - I think being overly preoccupied with the rear view mirror makes you less safe. Focus your attention in front of you and develop a peripheral awareness for the possibility of cars in your blind spot by evaluating places they could be coming from ahead of time; that's the best way to be safe, imo. Being overly preoccupied with checking the mirrors is a distraction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Lasastryke 03/20/23 7:38:51 PM #21:	yeah, i'm with para. during driving lessons, i was taught to look in the rear view mirror every few seconds, so i guess that's the "proper" way to do it. but i stopped doing it that way the moment i got my license. --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr_Lasastryke posted [p:972302775] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>yeah, i'm with para.during driving lessons, i was taught to look in the rear view mirror every few seconds, so i guess that's the "proper" way to do it. but i stopped doing it that way the moment i got my license.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 03/20/23 7:41:36 PM #22:	I think that perhaps the 'look in the mirror every few seconds' thing is sort of a way to drill the idea of having a natural spatial awareness around you into your head, which is good - if you aren't checking your mirrors often when you're first learning to drive then you just have a huge blind spot around you that you haven't learned to accommodate for yet, and therefore you really need to learn how to compensate for that blind spot by drilling it until it becomes second nature. But I think you should not need to do this after your first few months of driving and I feel like people continue to hold onto this 'check the mirror every few seconds' mantra despite the fact that I believe it should only be necessary when you're first training. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:972302841] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I think that perhaps the 'look in the mirror every few seconds' thing is sort of a way to drill the idea of having a natural spatial awareness around you into your head, which is good - if you aren't checking your mirrors often when you're first learning to drive then you just have a huge blind spot around you that you haven't learned to accommodate for yet, and therefore you really need to learn how to compensate for that blind spot by drilling it until it becomes second nature. But I think you should not need to do this after your first few months of driving and I feel like people continue to hold onto this 'check the mirror every few seconds' mantra despite the fact that I believe it should only be necessary when you're first training.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colegreen_c12 03/20/23 7:45:34 PM #23:	You are greatly overstating how much looking into the rear view takes. It should be a quick glance, a tenth of a second or so. And it is 100% safer than relying on peripheral vision, which frankly you are grossly overestimating --- DPOblivion beat us all. <cite>Colegreen_c12 posted [p:972302929] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>You are greatly overstating how much looking into the rear view takes. It should be a quick glance, a tenth of a second or so. And it is 100% safer than relying on peripheral vision, which frankly you are grossly overestimating</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 03/20/23 7:49:00 PM #24:	And that's where I'd come back around and say that you're underestimating how much attention off the road 'a quick glance every 3 seconds' takes. Yeah, one quick glance every once in a while isn't a big deal, but if you're worrying about it every 2-3 seconds you're distracting yourself. What are you actually looking for? How many actionable dangers can there be behind you? <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:972303004] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>And that's where I'd come back around and say that you're underestimating how much attention off the road 'a quick glance every 3 seconds' takes. Yeah, one quick glance every once in a while isn't a big deal, but if you're worrying about it every 2-3 seconds you're distracting yourself. What are you actually looking for? How many actionable dangers can there be behind you?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_Rocks 03/20/23 7:58:58 PM #25:	I don't time it, but a lot --- Not to be confused with XIII_Minerals. <cite>XIII_Rocks posted [p:972303202] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I don't time it, but a lot</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
skullbone 03/20/23 8:01:10 PM #26:	What is going on in my rear view mirror that I need to be aware of? Maybe I'd check it more on the highway to see if someone is about to pass me or something but I feel like I'm only looking in the rear view mirror if I need to change lanes. --- skull <cite>skullbone posted [p:972303241] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>What is going on in my rear view mirror that I need to be aware of? Maybe I'd check it more on the highway to see if someone is about to pass me or something but I feel like I'm only looking in the rear view mirror if I need to change lanes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/20/23 8:04:55 PM #27:	The rear mirror is in the periphery of the front window so it doesn't cause any distraction. You're just intentionally acknowledging what you see in the mirror without changing your gaze. The rhythmic scanning of your environment is better at keeping your brain fresh and avoiding the zone out. People do have different brains so maybe the single forward stare is more effective for some. Paratroopa1 posted... How many actionable dangers can there be behind you? Typically all of them. You control everything in front of you, so all surprises come from behind. Your blind spots are behind you also. The only exception is intersections where dangers come from the front side, and obviously you want to focus on those in that case. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:972303322] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>The rear mirror is in the periphery of the front window so it doesn't cause any distraction. You're just intentionally acknowledging what you see in the mirror without changing your gaze.The rhythmic scanning of your environment is better at keeping your brain fresh and avoiding the zone out. People do have different brains so maybe the single forward stare is more effective for some.Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>How many actionable dangers can there be behind you?</quote>Typically all of them. You control everything in front of you, so all surprises come from behind. Your blind spots are behind you also. The only exception is intersections where dangers come from the front side, and obviously you want to focus on those in that case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 03/20/23 8:09:02 PM #28:	Pretty frequently --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:972303394] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Pretty frequently</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colegreen_c12 03/20/23 8:11:27 PM #29:	Paratroopa1 posted... And that's where I'd come back around and say that you're underestimating how much attention off the road 'a quick glance every 3 seconds' takes. Yeah, one quick glance every once in a while isn't a big deal, but if you're worrying about it every 2-3 seconds you're distracting yourself. What are you actually looking for? How many actionable dangers can there be behind you? I don't think anyone worries about it every 2-3 seconds after learning for more than a few weeks. They just naturally do it. It's second nature. skullbone posted... What is going on in my rear view mirror that I need to be aware of? Maybe I'd check it more on the highway to see if someone is about to pass me or something but I feel like I'm only looking in the rear view mirror if I need to change lanes. Even on a 2 lane road it is still good to know how close someone is behind you, if someone is on your bumper you better not slam on your brakes if you don't want to be rearended. Sure if you are in a neigherbood going 30 it's not as a big a deal, but it's always useful. --- DPOblivion beat us all. <cite>Colegreen_c12 posted [p:972303441] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>And that's where I'd come back around and say that you're underestimating how much attention off the road 'a quick glance every 3 seconds' takes. Yeah, one quick glance every once in a while isn't a big deal, but if you're worrying about it every 2-3 seconds you're distracting yourself. What are you actually looking for? How many actionable dangers can there be behind you?</quote>I don't think anyone worries about it every 2-3 seconds after learning for more than a few weeks. They just naturally do it. It's second nature. skullbone posted... </cite><quote>What is going on in my rear view mirror that I need to be aware of? Maybe I'd check it more on the highway to see if someone is about to pass me or something but I feel like I'm only looking in the rear view mirror if I need to change lanes.</quote>Even on a 2 lane road it is still good to know how close someone is behind you, if someone is on your bumper you better not slam on your brakes if you don't want to be rearended. Sure if you are in a neigherbood going 30 it's not as a big a deal, but it's always useful.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan 03/20/23 8:23:10 PM #30:	foolm0r0n posted... Rear mirror every ~2-3s sounds right Left mirror every ~5-10s Right rarely unless I really need to I love the rear since you can see both left/right at once, with much better depth perception. It's a bad habit though because the back is often blocked. And most cars have a tiny useless rear window, so if I'm driving a rental or something I have to adjust to using the right mirror more.. I feel this. I was talking to family about this and they looked at me like I was crazy. But Ive driven a small car for the last 15+ years where I have pretty good vision out the back from the rear view mirror. I have genuine low level anxiety about finding myself in a situation where the rear mirror is useless. But I hear that newer cars with obstructed views are starting to come with virtual rear view mirrors via a rear facing camera, which sounds awesome. --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! <cite>Seanchan posted [p:972303689] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted... </cite><quote>Rear mirror every ~2-3s sounds rightLeft mirror every ~5-10sRight rarely unless I really need toI love the rear since you can see both left/right at once, with much better depth perception. It's a bad habit though because the back is often blocked. And most cars have a tiny useless rear window, so if I'm driving a rental or something I have to adjust to using the right mirror more..</quote>I feel this. I was talking to family about this and they looked at me like I was crazy. But Ive driven a small car for the last 15+ years where I have pretty good vision out the back from the rear view mirror.I have genuine low level anxiety about finding myself in a situation where the rear mirror is useless. But I hear that newer cars with obstructed views are starting to come with virtual rear view mirrors via a rear facing camera, which sounds awesome. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alpha_MaIe 03/20/23 8:46:19 PM #31:	Paratroopa1 posted... And that's where I'd come back around and say that you're underestimating how much attention off the road 'a quick glance every 3 seconds' takes. Yeah, one quick glance every once in a while isn't a big deal, but if you're worrying about it every 2-3 seconds you're distracting yourself. What are you actually looking for? How many actionable dangers can there be behind you? This is only an issue if youre actively thinking and worrying about it. Even doing shit like just walking can be an issue if youre actually thinking about every step you take. <cite>Alpha_MaIe posted [p:972304172] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>And that's where I'd come back around and say that you're underestimating how much attention off the road 'a quick glance every 3 seconds' takes. Yeah, one quick glance every once in a while isn't a big deal, but if you're worrying about it every 2-3 seconds you're distracting yourself. What are you actually looking for? How many actionable dangers can there be behind you?</quote>This is only an issue if youre actively thinking and worrying about it. Even doing shit like just walking can be an issue if youre actually thinking about every step you take.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sorozone 03/20/23 8:52:43 PM #32:	I have my CDL and drove trucks prior to everything having cameras. I check them all the time out of habit even in my regular vehicle. --- https://m.twitch.tv/sorozone/profile <cite>Sorozone posted [p:972304310] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I have my CDL and drove trucks prior to everything having cameras.I check them all the time out of habit even in my regular vehicle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/20/23 8:54:13 PM #33:	Alpha_MaIe posted... This is only an issue if youre actively thinking and worrying about it. Even doing shit like just walking can be an issue if youre actually thinking about every step you take. everyone in this topic is now manually breathing --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:972304350] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Alpha_MaIe posted... </cite><quote>This is only an issue if youre actively thinking and worrying about it. Even doing shit like just walking can be an issue if youre actually thinking about every step you take.</quote>everyone in this topic is now manually breathing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/20/23 9:31:02 PM #34:	And aware of their pulsating pancreas --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:972305087] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>And aware of their pulsating pancreas</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 03/20/23 9:35:35 PM #35:	I tried to pay attention to this while driving to work today but I think I changed the result by measuring it. It's a lot though --- Congrats to BKSheikah, who knows more about years than anyone else. <cite>Kenri posted [p:972305181] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I tried to pay attention to this while driving to work today but I think I changed the result by measuring it.It's a lot though</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
junk_funk 03/20/23 10:12:56 PM #36:	Rear mirrorSingle lane driving? Never. Highway? Every time I change lanes. Side mirrorthe same. --- Give 'em hell Ukraine. <cite>junk_funk posted [p:972305867] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Rear mirrorSingle lane driving? Never. Highway? Every time I change lanes. Side mirrorthe same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
junk_funk 03/20/23 10:25:51 PM #37:	I posted before reading the topic throughbut after reading, this topic is full of a bunch of nervous Nellys. The brunt of the danger while driving is definitely in front of you and to your immediate sides. Theres hardly anything behind me that concerns me unless Im stopping quickly or a butthead is up my six. --- Give 'em hell Ukraine. <cite>junk_funk posted [p:972306082] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I posted before reading the topic throughbut after reading, this topic is full of a bunch of nervous Nellys. The brunt of the danger while driving is definitely in front of you and to your immediate sides. Theres hardly anything behind me that concerns me unless Im stopping quickly or a butthead is up my six. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 03/20/23 10:29:20 PM #38:	I rarely drive so I dont know the number, but very often --- Congrats to azuarc, GotD2 Guru champ! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:972306138] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I rarely drive so I dont know the number, but very often</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 03/20/23 10:41:07 PM #39:	junk_funk posted... I posted before reading the topic throughbut after reading, this topic is full of a bunch of nervous Nellys. The brunt of the danger while driving is definitely in front of you and to your immediate sides. Theres hardly anything behind me that concerns me unless Im stopping quickly or a butthead is up my six. Right. A tailgater is a danger, but knowing they're there is really all you can do if they refuse to pass you - if you have a tailgater behind you then the danger you need to watch for is actually ahead of you - you need to not get surprised by anything that would make you brake suddenly. The status of someone tailgating you is not something that changes every 2-3 seconds; there is no need to keep checking on them by looking at the rear view mirror constantly. Pretty much all meaningful dangers on the road are in front of you because that's where your car is going. This is pretty simple. If you have a tailgater, that's dangerous and you can try to let them pass but this isn't something that requires constant monitoring of the rear view mirror. In my opinion, the rear view mirror isn't really important unless you're changing lanes. Obviously if you do any kind of turning or lateral movement you need to do a full check - rear view mirror, side mirror, blind spot check (turning your head to see to your immediate side where the mirrors don't reach in most cars). If you're driving in one lane, though, there's nothing that looking at your rear view mirror can really do aside from telling you whether or not it's safe to brake suddenly, but it does not require constant monitoring to know this because cars aren't coming in and out from behind you every 2-3 seconds. You should have a pretty good idea if a car might or might not be behind you simply by noticing upcoming intersections and turns/entry points to the road, especially because a car that is at an intersection is something that does require careful monitoring. If they turn onto the road and are behind you now, one glance - not every two to three seconds, just a single glance - is enough to confirm that you have someone behind you now, which, if they're at a safe following distance, should not change how you drive. You should use your turn signals and avoid hard brakes regardless of whether or not someone is behind you. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:972306363] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>junk_funk posted... </cite><quote>I posted before reading the topic throughbut after reading, this topic is full of a bunch of nervous Nellys. The brunt of the danger while driving is definitely in front of you and to your immediate sides. Theres hardly anything behind me that concerns me unless Im stopping quickly or a butthead is up my six.</quote>Right. A tailgater is a danger, but knowing they're there is really all you can do if they refuse to pass you - if you have a tailgater behind you then the danger you need to watch for is actually ahead of you - you need to not get surprised by anything that would make you brake suddenly.The status of someone tailgating you is not something that changes every 2-3 seconds; there is no need to keep checking on them by looking at the rear view mirror constantly. Pretty much all meaningful dangers on the road are in front of you because that's where your car is going. This is pretty simple. If you have a tailgater, that's dangerous and you can try to let them pass but this isn't something that requires constant monitoring of the rear view mirror.In my opinion, the rear view mirror isn't really important unless you're changing lanes. Obviously if you do any kind of turning or lateral movement you need to do a full check - rear view mirror, side mirror, blind spot check (turning your head to see to your immediate side where the mirrors don't reach in most cars). If you're driving in one lane, though, there's nothing that looking at your rear view mirror can really do aside from telling you whether or not it's safe to brake suddenly, but it does not require constant monitoring to know this because cars aren't coming in and out from behind you every 2-3 seconds. You should have a pretty good idea if a car might or might not be behind you simply by noticing upcoming intersections and turns/entry points to the road, especially because a car that is at an intersection is something that does require careful monitoring. If they turn onto the road and are behind you now, one glance - not every two to three seconds, just a single glance - is enough to confirm that you have someone behind you now, which, if they're at a safe following distance, should not change how you drive. You should use your turn signals and avoid hard brakes regardless of whether or not someone is behind you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LeonhartFour 03/20/23 10:41:42 PM #40:	junk_funk posted... I posted before reading the topic throughbut after reading, this topic is full of a bunch of nervous Nellys. it's such an odd take to think checking your mirrors frequently is a bad thing --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/080/145/638.png <cite>LeonhartFour posted [p:972306382] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>junk_funk posted... </cite><quote>I posted before reading the topic throughbut after reading, this topic is full of a bunch of nervous Nellys.</quote>it's such an odd take to think checking your mirrors frequently is a bad thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 03/20/23 10:46:01 PM #41:	Paratroopa1 posted... In my opinion, the rear view mirror isn't really important unless you're changing lanes. And obviously when you're backing up but I hope nobody thinks I'm this stupid (although when you back up you should really turn to look through the back of the car, better view) <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:972306474] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>In my opinion, the rear view mirror isn't really important unless you're changing lanes.</quote>And obviously when you're backing up but I hope nobody thinks I'm this stupid (although when you back up you should really turn to look through the back of the car, better view)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colegreen_c12 03/20/23 11:02:13 PM #42:	Paratroopa1 posted... And obviously when you're backing up but I hope nobody thinks I'm this stupid (although when you back up you should really turn to look through the back of the car, better view) Or just have a car made in the last decade so you have a backup camera. But it's really weird how people pick something contrary to expert advice and act like everyone else is idiots for not accepting this (this is about junk_funk). For two lane roads you get by with checking the mirror less frequently sure, maybe every 10 seconds or so. On a four lane road+ (especially on an interstate) it is super important to have a vague idea of where all the cars around you are and what is happening behind you. I have had at least one incident where I prevented an accident by seeing a car in my rear view mirror going too fast and cutting people off and being prepared to slow down when he did the same to me. I really don't understand the thought that peripheral vision is fine for rearview when its actually way more effective for the whole road ahead of you during the brief look into the mirrors. If something ahead of me surprises me to cause an accident it was because I was doing something wrong, likely following someone to close or not being aware of someone driving erratically but its way easier to miss stuff behind you. --- DPOblivion beat us all. <cite>Colegreen_c12 posted [p:972306811] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>And obviously when you're backing up but I hope nobody thinks I'm this stupid (although when you back up you should really turn to look through the back of the car, better view)</quote>Or just have a car made in the last decade so you have a backup camera.But it's really weird how people pick something contrary to expert advice and act like everyone else is idiots for not accepting this (this is about junk_funk).For two lane roads you get by with checking the mirror less frequently sure, maybe every 10 seconds or so. On a four lane road+ (especially on an interstate) it is super important to have a vague idea of where all the cars around you are and what is happening behind you. I have had at least one incident where I prevented an accident by seeing a car in my rear view mirror going too fast and cutting people off and being prepared to slow down when he did the same to me. I really don't understand the thought that peripheral vision is fine for rearview when its actually way more effective for the whole road ahead of you during the brief look into the mirrors. If something ahead of me surprises me to cause an accident it was because I was doing something wrong, likely following someone to close or not being aware of someone driving erratically but its way easier to miss stuff behind you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/20/23 11:07:05 PM #43:	I mean, if you don't check your mirrors often, you obviously don't believe anything important is in them. So naturally you would think it's a waste to check them. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:972306909] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>I mean, if you don't check your mirrors often, you obviously don't believe anything important is in them. So naturally you would think it's a waste to check them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 03/20/23 11:07:08 PM #44:	Okay I will grant that a busy multiple-lane highway is different - which is because the status of how many cars are behind you DOES change frequently and those cars can try to pass you suddenly. So that's really the answer to my question. Do you expect that there's a good reason for cars to be coming in and out from behind you, and that that could present a danger for you? If yes then you should be monitoring the mirror - if no then there's no reason to. It's completely dependent on circumstance. Even on an interstate though, 2-3 seconds is probably more fretting over what's behind you than necessary - in most cases you'll probably coast with the same car behind you for a while. It's more than enough. I don't really know how often I actually check the mirror - it's basically second nature at this point that it would be like asking me how many times a minute I breathe in an out, I'm not thinking about it. That's really my main criticism with the "2-3 seconds for checking the mirror" thing - if you are thinking about it that much, you are probably overprioritizing what's behind you which means you are distracted from what's in front of you, which is hands down going to be what causes 99% of accidents. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:972306911] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Okay I will grant that a busy multiple-lane highway is different - which is because the status of how many cars are behind you DOES change frequently and those cars can try to pass you suddenly.So that's really the answer to my question. Do you expect that there's a good reason for cars to be coming in and out from behind you, and that that could present a danger for you? If yes then you should be monitoring the mirror - if no then there's no reason to. It's completely dependent on circumstance.Even on an interstate though, 2-3 seconds is probably more fretting over what's behind you than necessary - in most cases you'll probably coast with the same car behind you for a while. It's more than enough. I don't really know how often I actually check the mirror - it's basically second nature at this point that it would be like asking me how many times a minute I breathe in an out, I'm not thinking about it. That's really my main criticism with the "2-3 seconds for checking the mirror" thing - if you are thinking about it that much, you are probably overprioritizing what's behind you which means you are distracted from what's in front of you, which is hands down going to be what causes 99% of accidents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
changmas 03/20/23 11:07:52 PM #45:	i once was a summer camp counselor and had to drive a big van full of kids and other counselors after previously having never driven anything larger than a small car. and let me tell you, there's nothing like that experience to train you to use the side mirrors because you aren't seeing shit out the back with a bunch of kids pumped up on sugar. but ultimately i still think it's far less than many of these answers. i probably absentmindedly / autopilot check them every fifteen to twenty seconds or so but i would only say i actively think about using them when changing lanes. --- The Artist Formerly Known as Hannyabal <cite>changmas posted [p:972306926] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>i once was a summer camp counselor and had to drive a big van full of kids and other counselors after previously having never driven anything larger than a small car. and let me tell you, there's nothing like that experience to train you to use the side mirrors because you aren't seeing shit out the back with a bunch of kids pumped up on sugar.but ultimately i still think it's far less than many of these answers. i probably absentmindedly / autopilot check them every fifteen to twenty seconds or so but i would only say i actively think about using them when changing lanes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 03/20/23 11:09:19 PM #46:	Paratroopa1 posted... I don't really know how often I actually check the mirror - it's basically second nature at this point that it would be like asking me how many times a minute I breathe in an out, I'm not thinking about it. It's prob every 2-3 seconds like every other decent driver. So you really don't need to keep typing so much. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:972306948] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>I don't really know how often I actually check the mirror - it's basically second nature at this point that it would be like asking me how many times a minute I breathe in an out, I'm not thinking about it.</quote>It's prob every 2-3 seconds like every other decent driver. So you really don't need to keep typing so much.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paratroopa1 03/20/23 11:13:13 PM #47:	2-3 seconds on the interstate maybe, if it's busy. Elsewhere, probably not. <cite>Paratroopa1 posted [p:972307012] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>2-3 seconds on the interstate maybe, if it's busy. Elsewhere, probably not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grand_Kirby 03/21/23 12:28:53 AM #48:	Never --- Okay, I rolled a 14. What's that mean? Hsu That you're a cheater. This is a 12-sided die. Chan <cite>Grand_Kirby posted [p:972308091] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>Never</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Lasastryke 03/21/23 3:53:00 AM #49:	seems like i'm an outlier in this topic because i DO always consciously make the decision to check the rear view mirror, which is probably why i don't check it that often. it's not "second nature" or "like breathing" for me. Paratroopa1 posted... Okay I will grant that a busy multiple-lane highway is different - which is because the status of how many cars are behind you DOES change frequently and those cars can try to pass you suddenly. also this - i definitely check the rear view mirror every 2-3 seconds on a busy multiple-line highway but no way i check it that often on a completely deserted two-way road. i guess a more apt answer i should give to the topic title question would be "depends, really." --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr_Lasastryke posted [p:972309655] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>seems like i'm an outlier in this topic because i DO always consciously make the decision to check the rear view mirror, which is probably why i don't check it that often. it's not "second nature" or "like breathing" for me.Paratroopa1 posted... </cite><quote>Okay I will grant that a busy multiple-lane highway is different - which is because the status of how many cars are behind you DOES change frequently and those cars can try to pass you suddenly.</quote>also this - i definitely check the rear view mirror every 2-3 seconds on a busy multiple-line highway but no way i check it that often on a completely deserted two-way road. i guess a more apt answer i should give to the topic title question would be "depends, really."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero 03/21/23 5:50:52 AM #50:	do all you nerdz keep your hands at 10 and 2 at all times too --- MZero, to the extreme https://www.twitch.tv/kabazame <cite>MZero posted [p:972310395] in While driv... [t:80385170]...</cite> <quote>do all you nerdz keep your hands at 10 and 2 at all times too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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