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GavsEvans123
03/02/23 12:38:52 PM
#51:


Yay for outlier! This is just the first film, so I probably won't get to keep the crown, but I shall enjoy it while I have it.

I guess I was right when I predicted in the sign-up topic that Not Another Teen Movie would not be number 30, and I don't think it will be number 29 either - I predict that rank will go to The Interview.

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BetrayedTangy
03/02/23 4:45:54 PM
#52:


29. Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein (1948)
Directed by: Charles Barton
Score: 245

Mythiot: 18
Gavs: 20
Suprak: 20
fortybelow: 21
Inviso: 25
Poke: 27
Tangy: 27
John: 27
Karo: 30
plasma: 30

Mythiot
Abbott and Costellos schtick feels a lot more primitive and dated than Chaplain or the Marx Brothers, but they manage to get a decent number of laughs as well as a lot of credit for basically inventing the genre spoof and roping Bela Lugosi and Lon Chaney Jr. into playing intentionally comedic versions of their classic characters. (Boris Karloff is unfortunately absent, though he got to meet the pair himself in a later movie.) Bonus points for a cool opening animated sequence that basically admits how bad the classic Wolf-Man looks by giving animated Wolf-Man an actual wolfs head, and for a laugh-out-loud funny ending cameo by Vincent Price early in his career doing a pitch-perfect impression of Claude Rains.

GavsEvans
Hey kids, did you know this was The Avengers of your grandparents generation? Actually, it may be great-grandparents by now. Are there even any children reading this?

This seems like an odd crossover on the surface, combining comedy with horror. I didnt think the comedy worked that well at first, as I found the characters to be a bit annoying and the jokes were too telegraphed. Luckily, the horror half is more successful, which enhances the comedy as well later on. The key here is that the monsters are still taken mostly seriously the humour comes from Abbott and Costello reacting to them. The climax focuses primarily on horror, as Abbott and Costello run from Frankensteins monster, who had effectively established his villain cred minutes earlier by grabbing Sandra and yeeting her through a window. Ill admit I didnt see that coming! Some of the funniest jokes were also in this sequence, such as the failed bed barricade, and the surprise ending cameo. (See, it really is like The Avengers!) Most of the special effects are also pretty impressive for the films age, particularly Draculas transformations between his vampire and bat forms. Cutting corners here would be forgiven for a spoof film like this, so its appreciated that the film didnt do this.

I think I know now why Universals Dark Universe didnt take off they forgot to include Abbott and Costello! Obviously, theyre both long dead, so you would need to recast or use another duo instead. How about making a Jump Street crossover? Schmidt and Jenko Meet Frankenstein has a ring to it, doesnt it? I was joking at first, but the more I think about it, the more I like that idea unironically. That describes this film too, come to think of it. Its a grower.

fortybelowsummer
Youre making enough noise to wake up the dead! I dont have to wake him up. Hes up. I didnt know quite what to expect going to this, as I didnt really know what Abbot and Costello were all about. I was aware of them, of course, but had never seen them actually perform (except Whos on First). I love the Universal monsters, so it had that going for it, and get outta here, Bela Lugosi and Lon Chaney are in it too (along with Glenn Strange whos not as well-known as Boris Karloff but played the Monster just as much)? I knew that I would probably not hate it, if I went in viewing it as an important piece of the Universal Monsters canon and not a cheapening of them. So Abbott is the frustrated straight man and Costello is the eccentric goofball and needless to say, they work really well together. The comedy is old fashioned but mostly entertaining and Costellos mannerisms in particular are unique and funny. I appreciate how they pulled this off, combining the slapstick humor with the trademark menace of the monsters. They arent there doing pratfalls or saying silly things, they are just as spooky as always. Huge respect for this film for being the first big successful horror comedy that put the genre on the map.

Vis
Now, I grew up watching old Looney Tunes on Nickelodeon, so it was really nice to finally see the inspiration behind those handful of cartoons with the Abbott and Costello cats. While this one still didnt QUITE match my modern-day comedic sensibilities, Ill say that it did a pretty good job for what it was going for as a film. I mean, youre dealing with taking three of the classic movie monsters and removing the fear aspect by replacing that with comically over-the-top terror from Wilbur. While this movie is still a LITTLE on the side of slapstick and its not QUITE modern in its comedy, it feels like a step towards something like Shaun of the Dead, where its just taking something scary and defanging it, in a way. It was a fun movie, overall, especially once the plot really started to get going.

Tangy
It wasn't too long into this flick until I realized Abbott and Costello's comedy was just not for me, at least based on this one film alone. My main issue is that despite the two of them being an iconic duo, Costello got a vast majority of the screen time and half of it was spent with him yelling "Chiiiiiiick!". Just for his partner to show up, brush him off, then rinse and repeat. Thankfully, there's also a bunch of monsters here to keep things interesting. Bela Lugosi and Lon Chaney returning to their titular roles is what carried this movie for me. There's just something so surreal about seeing these iconic characters being involved in slapstick. Lugosi especially just seems like he's having so much fun here that's hard not join in on that. So yeah I'll give it some bonus points for creativity Also the title of this really should have been Abbott and Costello Meet Dracula. He was very clearly the main antagonist and the name would've actually been correct too!

Biggest Laugh: Dracula messing with Costello

John
It's really neat that they got actors like Lugosi and Chaney back for this. Beyond that, the movie is just alright. Some okay gags but many of them are really just aren't on the level of other comedies of the time or earlier. I think part of my issue is that it played a lot of it a bit straighter than expected? The monsters themselves weren't really comedic versions of their original characters like in Young Frankenstein, but just slightly less effective repeats of the originals, with Abbott and Costello just every once in a while throwing in a joking quip or a little light slapstick. There's a few funny moments but it's mostly forgettable.

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BetrayedTangy
03/02/23 4:46:42 PM
#53:


Karo
The marginally funny comic duo run afoul of the old Universal movie monsters, but despite the title they do not actually meet Dr. Frankenstein.
So the thing is they are delivery guys or something who receive some very sus packages from Europe and we are treated to lots of repetitive and highly telegraphed jokes. Wow, Costello sees monsters and Abbott doesnt believe him. Again and again and again and again and again. That is the entire movie.
The silly plot sees Count Dracula trying to revive the Creature for 'reasons' while being hunted down by the Wolfman (also for 'reasons'), though everyone's true goal seems to be just to troll Costello with ineffectual monster gags.
Its basically just scooby-doo with lame and annoying characters and inconsistent werewolf hijinks that are written by someone that doesnt understand how moon phases work.
Please have A & C meet some 80's slasher character next so they can be hacked to pieces and I will never have to sit though another one of these.

plasma
Unpopular opinion time: Comedy and horror go together like chocolate and spaghetti sauce. Sure, there are some exceptions (Tucker & Dale comes to mind), but A&CMF is the epitome of everything I hate about genre mashups. Here, the comedy is constantly neutered by the horror elements, and the horror itself never grows teeth because the heroes arent allowed to die or suffer meaningful injuries.

My most hatedHATEDhorror cliche is the Selectively Dangerous Villain, and this film contains an army of them. Honestly, Im not sure what Abbott and Costello were afraid of. The Wolfman spends the entire film swatting at empty air, the Frankenstein monster lumbers around aimlessly, and Dracula would rather transform into a bat than bite someone right in front of him. Its garbage. All of it. And dont even get me started on that scene where Dracula opened and closed his coffin for what felt like twenty minutes straight.

Is there anything positive I can say about this movie? Well, Abbott and Costello have a sort of Jerry Seinfeld/George Costanza chemistry, and I liked that. I actually enjoyed the opening scene and other segments when the duo wasnt fleeing from toothless monsters. So I guess you could say that the problem here isnt Abbott and Costello. Its the fact that they meet Frankenstein. F

Outlier Rankings
Gavs: 23
Mythiot: 19
Suprak: 16
forty: 9
Poke: 8
plasma: 7
Inviso: 7
Karo: 2
Johnbobb: 2
Tangy: 2

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Snake5555555555
03/02/23 5:15:17 PM
#54:


Oh shit, that one hurts! One of my favorite horror comedies. I would've had it in my top 10, maybe top 5. But then, I grew up watching Abbott and Costello and have always loved their schtick.

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Pokewars
03/02/23 5:54:16 PM
#55:


Who's on first is great and I enjoy A&C duo, but this just didn't produce many laughs when it's just Costello not being believed for a huge chunk of the film.

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Mega_Mana
03/02/23 6:02:10 PM
#56:


24/27, would probably keep it around there. I appreciate seeing Lugosi having fun in this extended Scooby-Doo episode.

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BetrayedTangy
03/02/23 6:29:46 PM
#57:


I'm kind of tempted to watch some of the other ones to see how they stack up. I can see it now...

''Board 8 Watches and Ranks Abbott & Costello''

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Johnbobb
03/02/23 6:50:28 PM
#58:


BetrayedTangy posted...
I'm kind of tempted to watch some of the other ones to see how they stack up. I can see it now...

''Board 8 Watches and Ranks Abbott & Costello''
I'd actually be super intersted in a Board 8 Ranks Classic Comedian Movies

We've already got Abbott & Costello, Marx Brothers and Chaplin here. Throw in the Three Stooges, Laurel & Hardy, Buster Keaton, Fatty Arbuckle, give them each like 2-3 movies, and it'd be a really solid list

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Johnbobb
03/02/23 6:53:49 PM
#59:


BetrayedTangy posted...
Unpopular opinion time: Comedy and horror go together like chocolate and spaghetti sauce. Sure, there are some exceptions (Tucker & Dale comes to mind), but A&CMF is the epitome of everything I hate about genre mashups. Here, the comedy is constantly neutered by the horror elements, and the horror itself never grows teeth because the heroes arent allowed to die or suffer meaningful injuries.
so I strongly disagree with the comedy/horror not going together, and could actually go into a whole spiel about how the two mesh extraordinarily well when paired together right due to having similar structures of relying on surprise and catching the viewer offguard.

BUT I agree with your assessment of A&CMF, and I think the reasons you give are indicative of why this film in particular didn't work for me as a horror comedy.

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Johnbobb
03/02/23 6:55:57 PM
#60:


gonna keep it riding on Not Another Teen Movie, though I'm less confident on it given what's dropping

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plasmabeam
03/02/23 6:57:59 PM
#61:


Abbott & Costello Make Vegas Rich.

VEGAS ODDS ON #28:

+500 Mystery Men
+750 Duck Soup
+750 Modern Times
+750 The Freshman
+1000 Enchanted
+1000 Not Another Teen Movie
+1250 Black Dynamite
+1250 The Interview
+1250 Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping

+200 Any other movie (+2500 if guessed correctly)

Leaderboard:

The House Won On:
  • Stripes (+1000 odds)
  • Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein (+500 odds)



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plasmabeam
03/02/23 7:12:25 PM
#62:


Johnbobb posted...
so I strongly disagree with the comedy/horror not going together, and could actually go into a whole spiel about how the two mesh extraordinarily well when paired together right due to having similar structures of relying on surprise and catching the viewer offguard.

Totally understand where you're coming from. You're spot-on about the structure and how both genres build tension in order to hit a punch-line/scare.

That said, the Horror/Comedy subgenre has never clicked for me personally. The tonal differences clash too much for my liking. I like Horror best when it's dark/severe/thrilling, and Comedy offsets those vibes in most cases. Plus, the Comedy usually overpowers the Horror, which is a bummer for me.


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BetrayedTangy
03/02/23 7:13:06 PM
#63:


I'm kinda sad I can't partake in Vegas this time. Plasma do you mind if I join the betting as a form of hint system?

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plasmabeam
03/02/23 7:14:11 PM
#64:


Johnbobb posted...
gonna keep it riding on Not Another Teen Movie, though I'm less confident on it given what's dropping

One thing I've noticed after doing four of these Gauntlets is that the first movies to drop are usually the least loved, rather than the most hated.

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plasmabeam
03/02/23 7:14:51 PM
#65:


BetrayedTangy posted...
I'm kinda sad I can't partake in Vegas this time. Plasma do you mind if I join the betting as a form of hint system?

It's entirely up to you and the others. I'm just having fun taking everybody's money.

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Johnbobb
03/02/23 7:17:47 PM
#66:


plasmabeam posted...
One thing I've noticed after doing four of these Gauntlets is that the first movies to drop are usually the least loved, rather than the most hated.
You're not wrong in many cases, but I've also seen things like Another Gay Movie in the LGBT list just get demolished, and ultimately expected the same fate for NATM here, if not to quite that extent

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BetrayedTangy
03/02/23 7:31:38 PM
#67:


plasmabeam posted...
It's entirely up to you and the others. I'm just having fun taking everybody's money.

I thought it'd be fun to 'guess' a movie, but there's a small chance I'm actually naming the next movie. (Naturally my 'winnings' would go to the House)

Edit: Actually that might interfere too much. It'll be fun seeing how the bets play out for sure though.

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Johnbobb
03/02/23 7:44:34 PM
#68:


I mean just seeing the early vegas odds always tells me some interesting things about plasma's opinions on movies

particularly when movies I fully expect to see in the top 10 are already in vegas

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BetrayedTangy
03/02/23 7:50:36 PM
#70:


Yes! I agree. It can really psyche you out. It's fooled me quite a bit haha.

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Mega_Mana
03/02/23 8:04:12 PM
#71:


The Freshman, again

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Mythiot
03/02/23 8:24:06 PM
#72:


Still going with The Interview
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plasmabeam
03/02/23 8:37:29 PM
#73:


Johnbobb posted...
I mean just seeing the early vegas odds always tells me some interesting things about plasma's opinions on movies

particularly when movies I fully expect to see in the top 10 are already in vegas

Yeah, it's hard to make an oddsboard without some personal bias. I try to balance things out though.

BetrayedTangy posted...
Yes! I agree. It can really psyche you out. It's fooled me quite a bit haha.

Haha that's how I feel when looking at NFL spreads.

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Inviso
03/02/23 8:40:01 PM
#74:


Sticking with "Not Another Teen Movie".

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Suprak_the_Stud
03/03/23 12:05:16 AM
#75:


And another one!

#20: Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein - C

Was this movie good? I honestly don't even know. It was more interesting. It was like this weird little bit of film history that I didn't even know existed. Bela Lugosi is in this? Holy shit that's legitimately nuts. Imagine if in Not Another Super Hero Movie Robert Downey Jr. showed up to reprise his role of Iron Man.

I said this already in another write-up, there is a certain time where comedy movies just do not work for me anymore, and I feel like that time is at least 20 years after this was made. I know I sound like a stupid boring zoomer that can't enjoy any of the hip classics that paved the way for things to come, but a lot of the jokes in here were pretty painful to sit through. Not everything and I did think the mix of horror and comedy worked about as well as I could've hoped for going in. Not too much actual horror and not too much actual comedy but like in close enough proximity to either that I was at least able to sit through this.

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Suprak_the_Stud
03/03/23 12:08:34 AM
#76:


I feel like I might've ranked it higher than I should've mostly just in awe of seeing some of that cast. I didn't dislike it necessarily but I don't really think I was entertained.

I'll also put my invisible fun bucks down on Mystery Men.

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GavsEvans123
03/03/23 2:01:31 PM
#77:


I'm feeling Mystery Men next

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Pokewars
03/03/23 5:58:15 PM
#78:


Guess mystery men

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BetrayedTangy
03/03/23 9:18:40 PM
#79:


28. Mystery Men (1999)
Directed by Kinka Usher
Score: 237

Vis: 10
John: 19
Forty: 20
Karo: 24
Tangy: 24
Mythiot: 26
Suprak: 27
Plasma: 28
Poke: 29
GavsEvans: 30

Vis
10. I can fully acknowledge that from an objective standpoint, this perhaps shouldnt rank as highly as I have it. Its not the funniest movie on this list. But it some nostalgia going for it, and watching it nowadays, you realize exactly what its parodying, and its kind of brilliant. In the decade prior to Mystery Men, we got four Batman movies. Two were in Tim Burtons weird, gothic style, but then we got two in this bizarre cartoon world of Joel Schumacher, and you can SEE the influence those two movies in particular had on Mystery Men. Seriously, the ending sequence with the frakulator is almost the same visual aesthetic as Mister Freezes ice ray over Gotham City at the climax of Batman & Robin.

But beyond just highlighting the parody of Schumachers work, Mystery Men is a fun little movie about a super team that doesnt really have a TON of genuine powers. Spleen, Sphinx and Invisible Boy have some things they can do, and Bowler has a sentient bowling ball, but for the most part, its just a team of losers banding together to form something greater than the individuals within. That works. Its fun, and there are emotional character beats for the original trio of Mr. Furious/Shoveler/Blue Rajah, plus its just got that hammy charm that makes for a fun viewing experience, even if you know its cheesy as hell. And by the fact that its a comedy and a parody, it makes that cheesiness feel intentional, and it elevates the movie, rather than making it a laughing stock like Batman & Robin.

John
19. Take Paul Reubens character out of this entirely and it's a good movie. I mean I like Paul Reubens but having one of the main cast be a fake-pimple-ridden fart-powered hero is unoriginal and unfunny, in a movie where every other character is specifically original and funny. This does get a solid like 10% grade boost solely for featuring William H Macy, who can never fail.

Forty
20. Weve got a blind date with destinyand it looks like shes ordered the lobster. This is a movie that I somehow never saw back in 1999 and then never cared enough to watch it until now. The problem with that is that since then there have been a lot of good to great satirical takes on the superhero genre like Kick Ass, Deadpool, Watchmen, Suicide Squad and The Boys to name a few. I thought that would put Mystery Men in a tough spot because the misfit superhero thing has been done so well on so many other occasions. I found that MM was able to carve out its own niche though and I found it enjoyable. Its actually pretty fun a lot of the time and I liked the characters more as it went along. Theyre funny enough, charming in their own way, and have a lot of heart. Geoffrey Rushs eccentricity is perfect for the villain role and the other stars bring their different unique flavors (fun fact: one of the frat boys is Michael Bay). Champion City is cool, kind of a cyberpunk Shumachers Gotham, and a lot of the other sets are fun too like Casanovas lair and the guys weapons laboratory. Its a good story of the underappreciated little guy fighting the good fight against all odds and youve gotta respect that.

Karo
24. A group of the most scuffed superheroes imaginable must save the day after the city's leading costumed crusader goes missing.
The characters get less funny and increasingly annoying the longer the movie goes on, and it felt like the movie went on for a very long time. Every character had like only one joke about them that they repeat ad nausem for two whole hours. Fart guy rips really rancid farts! Angry guy is impotently angry! Cutlery guy only wields useless silverware! Shovel guy has a shovel and nothing else!
The often formulaic nature of superherodom is a ripe target for parody, but this movie... is not it. It is just a half baked and incompetently directed attempt to satirize a genre of movie that hadnt really even taken off yet at this point in time. It is rife with extremely bad special effects throughout (and I mean EXTREMELY bad), and is late 90s well beyond the threshold of physical pain.
There are a few memorable scenes (hero tryouts, death of captain amazing), but by and large the film is a pile of rubbish that stinks worse than Spleen's butt cheeks.

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BetrayedTangy
03/03/23 9:18:51 PM
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Tangy
24. Did I include this movie solely because of the Blue Raja and Casanova Frankenstein? Yes. Does it hold up well? Err well no, but there were still some pleasant surprises! First and foremost this cast is great. Ive already mentioned Azaria and Rush, but really everyone here is having a ton of fun and I can always appreciate that. The main henchmen are literally called the Disco Boys and thats something I will always find funny. Secondly I really do dig the style, not just the Schumacher style aesthetics either. The entire movie feels like it was pulled straight out of a comic book, with everything from the dramatic camera angles, to the unique costume design. The whole thing is honestly a visual treat (not counting the gross cgi of course).

The thing that really ruins the movie for me though is the writing. Nearly every joke that comes out of the characters mouths are lame attempts at one liners. I get that its part of the whole superhero genre, but cmon. May the forks be with us really? It constantly takes me away from the fun and just reminds me how cringy a lot of films from this era could be. Oh yeah and Stiller kinda sucks here too. He just kinda whines the whole movie, until of course hes the one to miraculously save the day.

Biggest Laugh: Blue Raja keyi- uh forking the limo.

Plasma
28. How Not to Make An Avengers Movie.

This one started out promising. There were some fun, creative ideas early on, and I liked the first three Super-Wannabes we got introduced to. Had the movie focused on Angry Ben Stiller, Shovel Knight, and Silverware Aladdin, we mightve had a strong story that explored the lives of three guys trying to step up to the plate in the absence of a city protector. Throw in a plucky waitress, and youd have a solid cast for a superhero satire.

Instead, the writers thought it would be a good idea to double the size of the main cast and throw in a Sphinxy mentor for shits and giggles. Do we need these additional characters? Hell no. You could easily add some of their quirks, flaws, and struggles to the first group without losing anything. Fartin Nikki Sixx and Visible Boy are completely one-dimensional, and while Jeanine Garofalos character has some depth to her, shes unfortunately played by Jeanine Garofalo.

In the end were left with a messy movie thats too loud, too annoying, and too bloated. Theres simply no room to breathe when we have so many characters. Now, maybe the writers were satirizing the fact that 90s Batman movies had a million sidekicks and villains, but I doubt anyone who creates a character like Fartin Nikki Sixx is clever enough to notice that. F

GavsEvans
30. This isnt a film that eases you into the setting. I was completely overwhelmed by the opening, and it took me a good 15 minutes before I could start processing what I was looking at. Even after reaching that point, I never became comfortable with it because it was so gaudy, kitschy and over the top.

I was reminded of The Warriors while watching this film. The Warriors is also silly at first glance, with all the themed gangs in outrageous costumes, but the film takes itself relatively seriously otherwise. By not pointing out how ridiculous everyone looks, that film manages a tricky balancing act where the silliness is immersive rather than taking you out of the film. Mystery Men doesnt manage that feat, because its never quite sure what it wants to be. The wacky costumes and most of the heroes having lame barely-even-powers suggest a parody, but the plot seems to want the viewer to take the film at least a little bit seriously. To add further layers of dissonance, characters zapped by the Psychofrakulator suffer horrific graphic deaths, while the frequent POV extreme close-ups would be right at home in some of Meat Canyons more unnerving animations. Its also worth considering that this film was coming off of Batman and Robin and Blade as contemporary superhero films. Those two films are polar opposites: Blade was able to downplay its comic origin because it had so little in common with other superhero films, while Batman and Robin already didnt take itself too seriously, which doesnt leave much room for a parody to top it. As a result, Mystery Men doesnt have much parody material to work with.

For what its worth, the Sphinx was easily my favourite of the heroes. His profound-but-not-really fortune cookie mantras were the one thing I consistently found amusing. The villain is named Casanova Frankenstein, which ranks highly on the list of Best Character Names Ever, and technically makes this the third Frankenstein movie on the list, or the second Frankenstein movie, along with a Fronkenshteen movie, which is a totally different thing. Looks like Ill get to make the Dr Doofenshmirtz two nickels reference after all!

Mystery Men ends up as my current least favourite film that has Smash Mouth All Star on the soundtrack. In case youre interested, that ranking is as follows: Shrek > Digimon: The Movie > Rat Race > Mystery Men. I havent seen Inspector Gadget, so I guess Mystery Men can take solace in the fact that it might not finish dead last on that list, but on this one it does, and its not even close.

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BetrayedTangy
03/03/23 9:27:52 PM
#81:


Outlier Ranking

Vis: 25
Gavs: 25
Mythiot: 21
Suprak: 17
forty: 17
Johnbobb: 11
Poke: 9
plasma: 7
Karo: 6
Tangy: 6

Vis joins Gav in a tie for first. With solid jumps for JB and forty as well. Me and Karo remain on the bottom, right under plasma.

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plasmabeam
03/03/23 9:31:02 PM
#82:


BetrayedTangy posted...
GavsEvans
while Batman and Robin already didnt take itself too seriously, which doesnt leave much room for a parody to top it. As a result, Mystery Men doesnt have much parody material to work with.

I love this.

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Johnbobb
03/03/23 9:37:00 PM
#83:


really, I didn't see that one coming this low. I mean I didn't think it was making top 10 or anything but I figured my ranking of it would be around the average

guess I'm still letting it ride on the teenagers though

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plasmabeam
03/03/23 9:41:26 PM
#84:


PAYOUTS GALORE! The super-trio of Suprak, Gavs, and Poke score an easy $500!

VEGAS ODDS ON #27:

+500 The Freshman
+750 Duck Soup
+750 Modern Times
+1000 Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
+1000 Enchanted
+1000 Not Another Teen Movie
+1250 Beverly Hills Cop
+1250 The Interview
+1250 Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping

+200 Any other movie (+2500 if guessed correctly)

Leaderboard:
1) Suprak $500 (+500 Mystery Men)
1) Gavs $500 (+500 Mystery Men)
1) Poke $500 (+500 Mystery Men)

The House Won On:
  • Stripes (+1000 odds)
  • Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein (+500 odds)



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Inviso
03/03/23 9:56:48 PM
#85:


Sticking with Not Another Teen Movie, because I'd feel really dumb if I stopped guessing it, only for it to finally show up.

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fortybelowsummer
03/03/23 10:00:44 PM
#86:


I'd like to order the Duck Soup

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Suprak_the_Stud
03/03/23 10:21:10 PM
#87:


I didn't have a write up for this one.

I probably settle on giving it a D. It was a pretty exhausting movie to sit through. Completely agree on the characters being mostly one note and the movie using the same jokes over and over again. This was yet ANOTHER movie with a crazy good cast and a crazy bad result. I remember getting less happy the longer it went on, and by the end I was actually annoyed. This was another rewatch for me and I remember ten year old Suprak enjoying it. So I found out my ten year old self was dumber than I remember, which was sad. Honestly I might've parked this even lower if not for nostalgia.

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Suprak_the_Stud
03/03/23 10:22:49 PM
#88:


I think I'll also take the Duck Soup, garcon.

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Mega_Mana
03/04/23 12:30:55 AM
#89:


The nostalgia goggles have it at a 4 for me, but it's been a while. I know it drags and the humor falls flat a lot, but I just enjoy how cheesy and dumb it can be.

Probably falls on a rewatch, but I still love the cast and always see someone new everytime I watch. CeeLo Green!

Get rod of Freshman alreasy

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Pokewars
03/04/23 12:52:45 AM
#90:


Guess the Freshman.

All I can say about Mystery Men....wish it were invisible.

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GavsEvans123
03/04/23 9:00:40 AM
#91:


Casanova Frankenstein has the same energy as the rejected names from the Simpsons episode where Homer changes his name to Max Power.

I will guess The Interview next

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jcgamer107
03/04/23 11:56:37 AM
#92:


Ohh Mystery Men deserves much better, that was a family favorite growing up. Probably my #3 from this list.

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Mega_Mana
03/04/23 1:00:29 PM
#93:


Just watched most of it this morning and I still love just recognizing random-ass people.

I think I saw a baby Corbin Bleu

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BetrayedTangy
03/04/23 7:39:55 PM
#94:


27. The Freshman (1990)
Directed by Andrew Bergman
Score: 228

Mythiot: 16
GavsEvans: 19
Plasma: 20
Karo: 21
Suprak: 21
Forty: 22
Johnbobb: 25
Pokewars: 26
Inviso: 29
Tangy: 29

19. GavsEvans
Everyone knows Don Vito Corleone. You may not know his name, you may not have seen The Godfather, but you absolutely know who he is. He is one of the most iconic characters in all of cinema. He is not in this movie, but Marlon Brando does get to have fun playing a character similar to his legendary role, involved in organized crime thats a bit less grandiose than The Godfather portrayed, and making semi-intelligible Marlon Brando noises.

The Godfather parallels dont end there. Matthew Broderick plays a similar role to Michael, being dragged into the family business against his will. Unlike Michael, Matthew never really adapts to it, but on the plus side, he is eventually able to get out more easily. This film does feel like The Godfather, if it was played for laughs instead of being an epic family saga. As such, the stakes dont carry as much weight as in that film, but theyre not really supposed to.

There were a couple neat twists here that I didnt see coming, like what the animals were being smuggled for, for instance, but my favourite part was probably the most straight forward scene, the scene where the Komodo dragon gets loose and wanders off on an adventure! Yes, Im easily amused.

20. Plasma
I was surprised how much I enjoyed the first half of this one. The initial setup had me worried that this would be a snoozer, but I ended up loving the whole college kid falls in with Don Corleone concept. What disappointed me, however, was the Komodo Dragon storyline. Dont get me wrong, I love that lizard, but I expected it would be a one-and-done gag rather than a critical piece of the main storyline. And that twist at the end Im honestly not sure whether it was executed properly. It surprised me, sure, but it also seems kind of clumsy in retrospect. I mean, whats the point in faking Don Corleones death? Maybe I missed something, but it seemed convoluted to me. C-

21. Karo
A young man needing to make a quick buck gets an offer he can't refuse from Marlon Brando, and many lizard hijinks ensue.
Basically he keeps unintentionally ending up in the good graces of the mafia boss and rising within the family while basically doing nothing and this is like the movie's one joke that that they have to milk for over an hour and a half.
It is very unremarkable and unmemorable and even getting the real Godfather to play their Godfather parody does little to alleviate this.

22. Forty
Theres a kind of freedom in being completely screwed, because you know things cant get any worse. This one was enjoyable to watch because who doesnt like Matthew Broderick? And Marlon Brando needs no explanation. The fact that he agreed to do a self-parody of his iconic Godfather character is amazing and low key hilarious. The best part is that he doesnt force anything, playing the character straight and allowing the humor to unfold naturally. I really enjoyed all the references, from the obvious Godfather 2 viewing to some of the actors from that movie showing up in other roles here. B and B have some great chemistry, with some equally funny (the kiss on the mouth and cheek slap) and touching (the dorm room visit) moments. The plot is clever, and all of the supporting characters are really solid. At times it cant help but slide into some 1980s cheesiness, e.g., chasing a lizard through a shopping mall, but overall, it was charming and a fun watch.

25. John
I've got to appreciate Tangy for including a Vito Corleone parody by the don himself immediately after doing the Godfather-dominated crime list. Can you believe Marlon Brando is 18 years older here than he was in the Godfather? It's stunning how similar he looks, and I love how it throws actual scenes from The Godfather (Part II, funnily enough, as that was the one Brando wasn't in) interspersed in Broderick's film classes. Anyway, as far as the movie itself goes, it was just alright? I loved seeing Brando parody himself and I loved Bruno Kirby (who was ALSO in Godfather Part II) playing the skeevy NYC conman, but the plot itself just didn't grab me as much beyond that.

29. Vis
I just dont know what this movie was really going for. Its a such a bizarre concept that I feel COULD have been interesting on its own, but I feel like the film was trying too hard to lean on the Godfather gag to really work as intended. On paper, the story of a hapless idiot going to New York and getting roped into some mafia scheme involving an endangered species restaurantthat could be interesting. But then you have this whole plot point of Carmine being played by Marlon Brando, looking like Vito Corleone, and just generally acting like the Godfather whenever possible. It was really distracting, and it made the otherwise interesting plot feel like the writers werent confident in their ability to deliver on the premise. As a result, I spent most of the film kinda bored, because it just never hooked me like I think it was supposed to. And then the ending is all wrapped up so quickly and so perfectly that it made the plot feel pointless.

29. Tangy
It wouldnt be a parody themed topic without mocking the previous winner. That said I was disappointed there wasnt more to this one. Sure the occasional Godfather references are fun to catch and of course its great to see Brando again, but there was just no substance here. The komodo dragons also cute too I guess.

Biggest Laugh: None, although I did admittedly chuckle at the Godfather 2 scenes


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BetrayedTangy
03/04/23 7:48:06 PM
#95:


Outlier Ranking

GavsEvans: 33
Mythiot: 32
Vis: 25
Suprak: 23
forty: 22
plasma: 14
Johnbobb: 13
Karo: 12
Johnbobb: 11
Poke: 10
Tangy: 8

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plasmabeam
03/04/23 8:25:37 PM
#96:


PAYOUTS! Poke and Mega collect an easy $500 (and unknowingly get roped into organized crime casino scheme).

VEGAS ODDS ON #26:

+600 Duck Soup
+750 Modern Times
+750 Spaceballs
+750 Not Another Teen Movie
+1000 Beverly Hills Cop
+1000 Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
+1000 Enchanted
+1250 The Interview
+1250 Popstar: Never Stop Never Stopping

+200 Any other movie (+2500 if guessed correctly)

Leaderboard:
1) Poke $1000 (+500 Mystery Men, +500 The Freshman)
2) Suprak $500 (+500 Mystery Men)
2) Gavs $500 (+500 Mystery Men)
2) Mega $500 (+500 The Freshman)

The House Won On:
  • Stripes (+1000 odds)
  • Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein (+500 odds)



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plasmabeam
03/04/23 8:28:28 PM
#97:


BetrayedTangy posted...
25. John
I've got to appreciate Tangy for including a Vito Corleone parody by the don himself immediately after doing the Godfather-dominated crime list.

Was thinking the same thing.

29. Vis
But then you have this whole plot point of Carmine being played by Marlon Brando, looking like Vito Corleone, and just generally acting like the Godfather whenever possible. It was really distracting, and it made the otherwise interesting plot feel like the writers werent confident in their ability to deliver on the premise.

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Johnbobb
03/04/23 9:44:00 PM
#98:


Fuckin

Keep it rolling on natm

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Inviso
03/04/23 10:24:38 PM
#99:


Still guessing "Not Another Teen Movie".

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Suprak_the_Stud
03/04/23 10:50:40 PM
#100:


I didn't have a write up for this one either. It was another one that wasn't particularly painful to sit through, but I didn't really enjoy it either. I think I ranked it as high as I did mostly just because of the novelty of seeing Brando doing Brando things.

I'll guess Duck Soup, just to be different.

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fortybelowsummer
03/04/23 11:56:44 PM
#101:


Duck Soup again

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